I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white bread
dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For there in my
bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did they come from?
I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one flying around over
the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the bread keeper that I
bought:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and
unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The bread I bake
has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to work to prevent
the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat one loaf and I have
not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it gotten dried out.

But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I spied
them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it outside,
attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I
was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't a super tight
seal. So...

What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a bread
bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them. I do have
some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't even remember
buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from and it would
appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon zippered
bags. I could use those but I would prefer something that isn't disposable
as I intend to make bread weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can
be washed but that's kind of a PITA.

Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now and
not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have white toast
tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The one that I
tossed was about half eaten.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white bread
>dough for a sandwich.

You eat white bread dough sandwiches... what kind of bread do you put
it in, pumpernickle?

On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For
> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did
> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one
> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the
> bread keeper that I bought:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a
> clunky and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now.
> The bread I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes
> seem to work to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7
> days to eat one loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all.
> Neither has it gotten dried out.
>
> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I
> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one
> flew out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it
> isn't a super tight seal. So...
>
> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them.
> I do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't
> even remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came
> from and it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have
> some 2 gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
> something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or
> more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a
> PITA.
>
> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now
> and not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have
> white toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread.
> The one that I tossed was about half eaten.

They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit of
pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
That'll learn 'em.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>>I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white bread
>>dough for a sandwich.
>
> You eat white bread dough sandwiches... what kind of bread do you put
> it in, pumpernickle?

No, no. The white bread is for the sandwich. Not sure what the filling
will be.

"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
>> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For
>> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did
>> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one
>> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the
>> bread keeper that I bought:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky
>> and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The bread
>> I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to work
>> to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat one
>> loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it gotten
>> dried out.
>>
>> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I
>> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
>> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one flew
>> out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't
>> a super tight seal. So...
>>
>> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
>> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them. I
>> do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't even
>> remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from and
>> it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some 2
>> gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer something
>> that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or more often.
>> Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a PITA.
>>
>> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now and
>> not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have white
>> toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The one
>> that I tossed was about half eaten.
>
> They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit of
> pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
> That'll learn 'em.

I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But boiling
water didn't help.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>
>>> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
>>> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For
>>> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did
>>> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one
>>> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the
>>> bread keeper that I bought:
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky
>>> and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The bread
>>> I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to work
>>> to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat one
>>> loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it gotten
>>> dried out.
>>>
>>> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I
>>> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
>>> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one flew
>>> out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't
>>> a super tight seal. So...
>>>
>>> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
>>> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them. I
>>> do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't even
>>> remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from and
>>> it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some 2
>>> gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer something
>>> that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or more often.
>>> Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a PITA.
>>>
>>> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now and
>>> not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have white
>>> toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The one
>>> that I tossed was about half eaten.
>>
>> They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit of
>> pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
>> That'll learn 'em.
>
>I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But boiling
>water didn't help.

Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>>>
>>>> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
>>>> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For
>>>> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did
>>>> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one
>>>> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the
>>>> bread keeper that I bought:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>>> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a
>>>> clunky
>>>> and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The
>>>> bread
>>>> I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
>>>> work
>>>> to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat one
>>>> loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it gotten
>>>> dried out.
>>>>
>>>> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I
>>>> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
>>>> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one
>>>> flew
>>>> out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it
>>>> isn't
>>>> a super tight seal. So...
>>>>
>>>> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
>>>> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them.
>>>> I
>>>> do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't
>>>> even
>>>> remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from and
>>>> it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some 2
>>>> gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer something
>>>> that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or more often.
>>>> Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a PITA.
>>>>
>>>> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now
>>>> and
>>>> not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have white
>>>> toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The one
>>>> that I tossed was about half eaten.
>>>
>>> They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit of
>>> pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
>>> That'll learn 'em.
>>
>>I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But boiling
>>water didn't help.
>
> Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.

I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit flies. I
don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.

On 11/2/2014 1:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
> flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.

Flying insect killer will off fruit flies really well.

You could try vinegar down the drain.
--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:31:43 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> >>>
> >>>> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
> >>>> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did! For
> >>>> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where did
> >>>> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional one
> >>>> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the
> >>>> bread keeper that I bought:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> >>>> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a
> >>>> clunky
> >>>> and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The
> >>>> bread
> >>>> I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
> >>>> work
> >>>> to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat one
> >>>> loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it gotten
> >>>> dried out.
> >>>>
> >>>> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When I
> >>>> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
> >>>> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one
> >>>> flew
> >>>> out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it
> >>>> isn't
> >>>> a super tight seal. So...
> >>>>
> >>>> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
> >>>> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close them.
> >>>> I
> >>>> do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't
> >>>> even
> >>>> remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from and
> >>>> it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some 2
> >>>> gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer something
> >>>> that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or more often.
> >>>> Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a PITA.
> >>>>
> >>>> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it now
> >>>> and
> >>>> not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have white
> >>>> toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The one
> >>>> that I tossed was about half eaten.
> >>>
> >>> They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit of
> >>> pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
> >>> That'll learn 'em.
> >>
> >>I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But boiling
> >>water didn't help.
> >
> > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>
> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit flies. I
> don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.

Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it wouldn't?

Allergic to bleach? Yes, I wouldn't doubt it. The list gets longer every day...pretty soon a plastic bubble for you...unless of course you're allergic to 'plastic'.

===

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> > > >
> > > > > I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch
> > > > > of white bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing
> > > > > that I did! For there in my bread keeper were at least a
> > > > > dozen fruit flies! Where did they come from? I don't know.
> > > > > Although I have seen the occasional one flying around over
> > > > > the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the bread
> > > > > keeper that I bought:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oh_aui_detailp
> > > > > age_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Although I agree with some of the
> > > > > reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and unwieldy design,
> > > > > I have had no problems with it until now. The bread I bake
> > > > > has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
> > > > > work to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7
> > > > > days to eat one loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at
> > > > > all. Neither has it gotten dried out.
> > > > >
> > > > > But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the
> > > > > holes. When I spied them, I immediately snatched the whole
> > > > > thing up and took it outside, attempting to close the
> > > > > ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I was in
> > > > > the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't a
> > > > > super tight seal. So...
> > > > >
> > > > > What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit
> > > > > into a bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me
> > > > > to close them. I do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The
> > > > > Baggies brand. I don't even remember buying the things so I
> > > > > haven't a clue where they came from and it would appear that
> > > > > they are no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon
> > > > > zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
> > > > > something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread
> > > > > weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed
> > > > > but that's kind of a PITA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I
> > > > > discovered it now and not when I was fixing to make toast of
> > > > > it. I guess I will have white toast tomorrow because I don't
> > > > > need two full loaves of bread. The one that I tossed was
> > > > > about half eaten.
> > > >
> > > > They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the
> > > > habit of pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every
> > > > once in a while. That'll learn 'em.
> > >
> > > I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But
> > > boiling water didn't help.
> >
> > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>
> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
> flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.

Julie, it is not physicaly possible to be allergicto bleach.

--

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:31:43 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch of white
>> >>>> bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing that I did!
>> >>>> For
>> >>>> there in my bread keeper were at least a dozen fruit flies! Where
>> >>>> did
>> >>>> they come from? I don't know. Although I have seen the occasional
>> >>>> one
>> >>>> flying around over the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> bread keeper that I bought:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> >>>> Although I agree with some of the reviewers that it is a bit of a
>> >>>> clunky
>> >>>> and unwieldy design, I have had no problems with it until now. The
>> >>>> bread
>> >>>> I bake has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
>> >>>> work
>> >>>> to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 days to eat
>> >>>> one
>> >>>> loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at all. Neither has it
>> >>>> gotten
>> >>>> dried out.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the holes. When
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> spied them, I immediately snatched the whole thing up and took it
>> >>>> outside, attempting to close the ventilation holes but at least one
>> >>>> flew
>> >>>> out while I was in the garage. And even with the holes closed, it
>> >>>> isn't
>> >>>> a super tight seal. So...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit into a
>> >>>> bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me to close
>> >>>> them.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The Baggies brand. I don't
>> >>>> even
>> >>>> remember buying the things so I haven't a clue where they came from
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> it would appear that they are no longer being made. I do have some
>> >>>> 2
>> >>>> gallon zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
>> >>>> something
>> >>>> that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread weekly or more
>> >>>> often.
>> >>>> Yes, I know that bags can be washed but that's kind of a PITA.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I discovered it
>> >>>> now
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> not when I was fixing to make toast of it. I guess I will have
>> >>>> white
>> >>>> toast tomorrow because I don't need two full loaves of bread. The
>> >>>> one
>> >>>> that I tossed was about half eaten.
>> >>>
>> >>> They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the habit
>> >>> of
>> >>> pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every once in a while.
>> >>> That'll learn 'em.
>> >>
>> >>I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But
>> >>boiling
>> >>water didn't help.
>> >
>> > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>>
>> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit flies.
>> I
>> don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>
> Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it wouldn't?

Raid is a brand. What kind do you use for fruit flies? I've never seen one
that said it was for that.
>
> Allergic to bleach? Yes, I wouldn't doubt it. The list gets longer every
> day...pretty soon a plastic bubble for you...unless of course you're
> allergic to 'plastic'.

Sometimes I get a rash from nylon. Not always. Bleach gives me terrible
lung pains and I get the aroma in my nose for about 2 days of a smoking
fire. Very unpleasant. I can use it in limited amounts in cold water only.
Heat seems to disperse it and make it worse. I had to use it on my
sprouting equipment when I made sprouts and in the humidifier. But I can't
be around it at all if it is used with hot water. Or it large amounts.
Might not be a true allergy but it's a bad enough reaction that I try not
to be around it.

Right now, my allergy cup overfloweth. When you have more than one allergy,
they do refer to people as having an allergy cup. You can be okay for a
while but then too many things hit you at once, that cup overflows and the
symptoms begin big time. Metal is a problem for me now. I can't wear
earrings. I have pierced ears but if I put the wires in, they feel like
they are pinching and my left ear has a little lump in it. They also make
my skin itch. The same with the metal part of the back of my watch. I can
wear it for a few hours, then the itching begins. I also have little itchy
spots on my left arm. Not sure what is causing those.

For me, some of those things come and go. There have been times when for
months, I couldn't wear a watch or any earrings because they would cause a
rash. I had to stop wearing tights because the nylon caused a rash on my
feet and legs. I was a dancer in those days so that was tough. I had
forgotten about this and made the mistake of buying a pair of nylon earrings
because I didn't want my holes to close. The rash got worse. Then I found
a bottle of honey and wax that I dipped the posts or wires in and suddenly I
could wear the earrings again so long as they didn't have metal that would
touch my skin aside from where the posts or wires were. I don't think that
product is being made any more.

Then the problem will clear up for a time, only to resurface some time
later. I also had to give up lipstick. No matter the brand or ingredients,
it would cause my lips to swell, peel and itch. All eye makeup caused me to
get eye infections. I can't even use cosmetic that go near the eye because
they will do the same. I have to wash my eyes out at least once a day with
baby shampoo or I will have problems.

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:05:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>> Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it wouldn't?
>
>Raid is a brand. What kind do you use for fruit flies? I've never seen one
>that said it was for that.

Raid is an insecticide. It will kill insects. Fruit flies are insects.

The kind I have is "Raid Home Insect Killer". Looks like this:

http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/en-us/p...ller-formula-7

I have no idea why you would think you would need a specific fruit fly
spray (if such a thing even exists). Bugs is bugs, and poison kills
'em all.

Doris

Doris Night wrote:
>Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>> Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it wouldn't?
>>
>>Raid is a brand. What kind do you use for fruit flies? I've never seen one
>>that said it was for that.
>
>Raid is an insecticide. It will kill insects. Fruit flies are insects.
>The kind I have is "Raid Home Insect Killer". Looks like this:
>http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/en-us/p...ller-formula-7
>I have no idea why you would think you would need a specific fruit fly
>spray (if such a thing even exists). Bugs is bugs, and poison kills
>'em all.

Don't yoose gals think Raid is a bit harsh... try Morning Paradise:
http://www.amazon.com/Summers-Eve-Cl...01MXTZMMD9 97

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:05:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it
>>> wouldn't?
>>
>>Raid is a brand. What kind do you use for fruit flies? I've never seen
>>one
>>that said it was for that.
>
> Raid is an insecticide. It will kill insects. Fruit flies are insects.
>
> The kind I have is "Raid Home Insect Killer". Looks like this:
>
> http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/en-us/p...ller-formula-7
>
> I have no idea why you would think you would need a specific fruit fly
> spray (if such a thing even exists). Bugs is bugs, and poison kills
> 'em all.
>
> Doris

Well that sure isn't true! Spraying spider spray on a wasp doesn't kill it.
Neither does spraying wasp spray on a spider. I also have ant spray. They
are all different formulations.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:05:05 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>> Raid WILL kill fruit flies...where did you get the idea that it
>>> wouldn't?
>>
>>Raid is a brand. What kind do you use for fruit flies? I've never seen
>>one
>>that said it was for that.
>
> Raid is an insecticide. It will kill insects. Fruit flies are insects.
>
> The kind I have is "Raid Home Insect Killer". Looks like this:
>
> http://www.raidkillsbugs.com/en-us/p...ller-formula-7
>
> I have no idea why you would think you would need a specific fruit fly
> spray (if such a thing even exists). Bugs is bugs, and poison kills
> 'em all.
>
> Doris

I looked at the product you listed. Does not mention fruit flies or even
flies. And I doubt that it would work in a sink. The problem is if they
get in the drain, they get deep down in there where a spray wouldn't reach.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

It does say for flies. But not fruit flies.

On 11/2/2014 5:50 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>


>>>
>>> Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>>
>> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
>> flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>
> Julie, it is not physically possible to be allergic to bleach.
>

Huh? Of course it is.
http://allergieslist.com/bleach-alle...ergy-symptoms/

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/2/2014 5:50 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>
>
>>>>
>>>> Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>>>
>>> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
>>> flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>>
>> Julie, it is not physically possible to be allergic to bleach.
>>
>
> Huh? Of course it is.
> http://allergieslist.com/bleach-alle...ergy-symptoms/

Thanks! Although I don't think I have ever had a rash that looked quite
like that, bleach does cause respiratory problems for me and also for my
mom. I was at their house some years ago and we had no clue what my dad was
doing outside. But all of a sudden, both us had respiratory problems. He
knew that I had issues with bleach. He would tell me that he was going to
clean the sink with Babbo. It wasn't Babbo. Not sure what it was but it
did have bleach in it. I had to ask him to warn me before he did this so I
could go outside.

Well this time he was outside of the open window. They had a split level
and we were on the upper floor directly above where he was. He was using
bleach and hot water. I got my usual symptoms and my mom wound up in the ER
later where she was diagnosed with asthma. All from the bleach.

I don't do well around enclosed swimming pools either. Some are okay
depending on what chemicals they use in them. But others cause me breathing
trouble and I can't go near them for any length of time.

On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:50:53 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> > news
> > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch
> > > > > > of white bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing
> > > > > > that I did! For there in my bread keeper were at least a
> > > > > > dozen fruit flies! Where did they come from? I don't know.
> > > > > > Although I have seen the occasional one flying around over
> > > > > > the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the bread
> > > > > > keeper that I bought:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oh_aui_detailp
> > > > > > age_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Although I agree with some of the
> > > > > > reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and unwieldy design,
> > > > > > I have had no problems with it until now. The bread I bake
> > > > > > has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
> > > > > > work to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7
> > > > > > days to eat one loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at
> > > > > > all. Neither has it gotten dried out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the
> > > > > > holes. When I spied them, I immediately snatched the whole
> > > > > > thing up and took it outside, attempting to close the
> > > > > > ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I was in
> > > > > > the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't a
> > > > > > super tight seal. So...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit
> > > > > > into a bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me
> > > > > > to close them. I do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The
> > > > > > Baggies brand. I don't even remember buying the things so I
> > > > > > haven't a clue where they came from and it would appear that
> > > > > > they are no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon
> > > > > > zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
> > > > > > something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread
> > > > > > weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed
> > > > > > but that's kind of a PITA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I
> > > > > > discovered it now and not when I was fixing to make toast of
> > > > > > it. I guess I will have white toast tomorrow because I don't
> > > > > > need two full loaves of bread. The one that I tossed was
> > > > > > about half eaten.
> > > > >
> > > > > They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the
> > > > > habit of pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every
> > > > > once in a while. That'll learn 'em.
> > > >
> > > > I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But
> > > > boiling water didn't help.
> > >
> > > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
> >
> > I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
> > flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>
> Julie, it is not physicaly possible to be allergicto bleach.

I was hoping someone would point that out. HAHAHAHAHAHA

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:50:53 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> >
>> > "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> > news >> > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
>> > > > ...
>> > > > > On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch
>> > > > > > of white bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing
>> > > > > > that I did! For there in my bread keeper were at least a
>> > > > > > dozen fruit flies! Where did they come from? I don't know.
>> > > > > > Although I have seen the occasional one flying around over
>> > > > > > the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the bread
>> > > > > > keeper that I bought:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oh_aui_detailp
>> > > > > > age_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Although I agree with some of the
>> > > > > > reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and unwieldy design,
>> > > > > > I have had no problems with it until now. The bread I bake
>> > > > > > has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
>> > > > > > work to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7
>> > > > > > days to eat one loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at
>> > > > > > all. Neither has it gotten dried out.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the
>> > > > > > holes. When I spied them, I immediately snatched the whole
>> > > > > > thing up and took it outside, attempting to close the
>> > > > > > ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I was in
>> > > > > > the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't a
>> > > > > > super tight seal. So...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit
>> > > > > > into a bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me
>> > > > > > to close them. I do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The
>> > > > > > Baggies brand. I don't even remember buying the things so I
>> > > > > > haven't a clue where they came from and it would appear that
>> > > > > > they are no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon
>> > > > > > zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
>> > > > > > something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread
>> > > > > > weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed
>> > > > > > but that's kind of a PITA.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I
>> > > > > > discovered it now and not when I was fixing to make toast of
>> > > > > > it. I guess I will have white toast tomorrow because I don't
>> > > > > > need two full loaves of bread. The one that I tossed was
>> > > > > > about half eaten.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the
>> > > > > habit of pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every
>> > > > > once in a while. That'll learn 'em.
>> > > >
>> > > > I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But
>> > > > boiling water didn't help.
>> > >
>> > > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>> >
>> > I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
>> > flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>>
>> Julie, it is not physicaly possible to be allergicto bleach.
>
> I was hoping someone would point that out. HAHAHAHAHAHA

And Ed put up the link that it is possible. It is possible to be allergic
to pretty much anything.

On 11/2/2014 10:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/2/2014 5:50 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
>>>
>>> I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
>>> flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
>>
>> Julie, it is not physically possible to be allergic to bleach.
>>
>
> Huh? Of course it is.
> http://allergieslist.com/bleach-alle...ergy-symptoms/
>
I'm sure it's possible to be allergic to bleach. It's possible to be
allergic to just about anything. Still, when you hear the word
"allergic" from Julie the automatic reaction is it's just another
attempt at playing the drama queen.

Jill

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:00:57 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
>It does say for flies. But not fruit flies.


It will work on them though.

Better is a trap with cider vinegar or a little wine. Takes a while
as the eggs will still hatch for a few days.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:00:57 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>It does say for flies. But not fruit flies.
>
>
> It will work on them though.
>
> Better is a trap with cider vinegar or a little wine. Takes a while
> as the eggs will still hatch for a few days.

I tried those traps and they did not work for me at all. What did work was
the mushy banana in the zip top bag. Leave the bag open, let them fly in,
close the bag and squish them. You need to replace this at least every day
to get rid of any eggs they may have laid.

And perhaps the spray may work on them but... What should I have done?
Sprayed my loaf of bread and the bread box? Nah. The bread box is going
off to Value Village. I got a couple of Rubbermaid ones today. They will
work but they are very long.

Now to figure out how to keep Jetta out of the bread. She had the nerve to
jump up on a cart right in front of me, take a sniff of the still warm loaf
and try to sink her teeth into it. I swear that cat will eat anything!

On 11/3/2014 7:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


>
> I tried those traps and they did not work for me at all. What did work
> was the mushy banana in the zip top bag. Leave the bag open, let them
> fly in, close the bag and squish them. You need to replace this at
> least every day to get rid of any eggs they may have laid.
>

Pour some cider vinegar in a jar. Cover with plastic wrap. Poke a hole
in the plastic. The flies fly in, but cannot get out.

Depending on the infestation, put a few around the area.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/3/2014 7:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>>
>> I tried those traps and they did not work for me at all. What did work
>> was the mushy banana in the zip top bag. Leave the bag open, let them
>> fly in, close the bag and squish them. You need to replace this at
>> least every day to get rid of any eggs they may have laid.
>>
>
> Pour some cider vinegar in a jar. Cover with plastic wrap. Poke a hole
> in the plastic. The flies fly in, but cannot get out.
>
> Depending on the infestation, put a few around the area.

Nope. Did not work at all. I did try that several times. They might get
in but then they could fly back out or they just walked around the sides and
few if any actually landed in the liquid. Also tried the same with added
dish soap.

I did see one fruit fly in there trying to get into the bread container.
The only bread I have is that, a package of Tillamook cheese bagels and the
last bit of white bread. From what I have read it is the yeast they are
after. Perhaps I got rid of most of them when I took that infested loaf
outside.

I have also gotten some little traps shaped like apples that work really
well. The problem is that they take a red liquid and people who live here
or maybe it is the cats, keep knocking them over and spilling the liquid.
And it stains!

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 20:30:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>> On 11/3/2014 7:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:


>>
>> Pour some cider vinegar in a jar. Cover with plastic wrap. Poke a hole
>> in the plastic. The flies fly in, but cannot get out.
>>
>> Depending on the infestation, put a few around the area.
>
>Nope. Did not work at all. I did try that several times. They might get
>in but then they could fly back out or they just walked around the sides and
>few if any actually landed in the liquid. Also tried the same with added
>dish soap.

If they could fly out, the hole was much too big. Just poke a finger.
Let them walk around the sides until they die.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 20:30:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 11/3/2014 7:52 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Pour some cider vinegar in a jar. Cover with plastic wrap. Poke a hole
>>> in the plastic. The flies fly in, but cannot get out.
>>>
>>> Depending on the infestation, put a few around the area.
>>
>>Nope. Did not work at all. I did try that several times. They might get
>>in but then they could fly back out or they just walked around the sides
>>and
>>few if any actually landed in the liquid. Also tried the same with added
>>dish soap.
>
> If they could fly out, the hole was much too big. Just poke a finger.
> Let them walk around the sides until they die.

But not many were even going in. Most were just on the top of it. The
traps that I have are much more effective.

On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:11:26 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:50:53 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> >> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> >> > news > >> > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in message
> >> > > > ...
> >> > > > > On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a batch
> >> > > > > > of white bread dough for a sandwich. And it was a good thing
> >> > > > > > that I did! For there in my bread keeper were at least a
> >> > > > > > dozen fruit flies! Where did they come from? I don't know.
> >> > > > > > Although I have seen the occasional one flying around over
> >> > > > > > the summer, I hadn't seen any recently. This is the bread
> >> > > > > > keeper that I bought:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oh_aui_detailp
> >> > > > > > age_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Although I agree with some of the
> >> > > > > > reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and unwieldy design,
> >> > > > > > I have had no problems with it until now. The bread I bake
> >> > > > > > has no preservatives in it but the ventilation holes seem to
> >> > > > > > work to prevent the bread from going moldy. It takes me 6-7
> >> > > > > > days to eat one loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at
> >> > > > > > all. Neither has it gotten dried out.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > But obviously the little fruit flies got in through the
> >> > > > > > holes. When I spied them, I immediately snatched the whole
> >> > > > > > thing up and took it outside, attempting to close the
> >> > > > > > ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I was in
> >> > > > > > the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't a
> >> > > > > > super tight seal. So...
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will technically fit
> >> > > > > > into a bread bag but the bags are not long enough to allow me
> >> > > > > > to close them. I do have some 2 gallon bread type bags. The
> >> > > > > > Baggies brand. I don't even remember buying the things so I
> >> > > > > > haven't a clue where they came from and it would appear that
> >> > > > > > they are no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon
> >> > > > > > zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer
> >> > > > > > something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread
> >> > > > > > weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed
> >> > > > > > but that's kind of a PITA.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I
> >> > > > > > discovered it now and not when I was fixing to make toast of
> >> > > > > > it. I guess I will have white toast tomorrow because I don't
> >> > > > > > need two full loaves of bread. The one that I tossed was
> >> > > > > > about half eaten.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get into the
> >> > > > > habit of pouring some boiling water down the drain hole every
> >> > > > > once in a while. That'll learn 'em.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once before. But
> >> > > > boiling water didn't help.
> >> > >
> >> > > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the drain.
> >> >
> >> > I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for fruit
> >> > flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs though.
> >>
> >> Julie, it is not physicaly possible to be allergicto bleach.
> >
> > I was hoping someone would point that out. HAHAHAHAHAHA
>
> And Ed put up the link that it is possible. It is possible to be allergic
> to pretty much anything.

Yep, you're allergic to life.

p.s. No one is allergic to bleach.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:11:26 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:50:53 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> > >> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> > >> > news > > >> > > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:35:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >>"Oregonian Haruspex" > wrote in
> > message >> > > > ...
> > >> > > > > On 2014-10-31 07:13:54 +0000, Julie Bove said:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > I just returned from the kitchen where I whipped up a
> > batch >> > > > > > of white bread dough for a sandwich. And it was
> > a good thing >> > > > > > that I did! For there in my bread keeper
> > were at least a >> > > > > > dozen fruit flies! Where did they
> > come from? I don't know. >> > > > > > Although I have seen the
> > occasional one flying around over >> > > > > > the summer, I hadn't
> > seen any recently. This is the bread >> > > > > > keeper that I
> > bought: >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...oh_aui_detailp >> >
> > > > > > age_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Although I agree with some of the
> > >> > > > > > reviewers that it is a bit of a clunky and unwieldy
> > design, >> > > > > > I have had no problems with it until now. The
> > bread I bake >> > > > > > has no preservatives in it but the
> > ventilation holes seem to >> > > > > > work to prevent the bread
> > from going moldy. It takes me 6-7 >> > > > > > days to eat one
> > loaf and I have not seen any mold on it at >> > > > > > all.
> > Neither has it gotten dried out. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > But
> > obviously the little fruit flies got in through the >> > > > > >
> > holes. When I spied them, I immediately snatched the whole >> > >
> > > > > thing up and took it outside, attempting to close the >> > >
> > > > > ventilation holes but at least one flew out while I was in
> > >> > > > > > the garage. And even with the holes closed, it isn't
> > a >> > > > > > super tight seal. So... >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > What do keep your bread in? A full loaf will
> > technically fit >> > > > > > into a bread bag but the bags are not
> > long enough to allow me >> > > > > > to close them. I do have some
> > 2 gallon bread type bags. The >> > > > > > Baggies brand. I don't
> > even remember buying the things so I >> > > > > > haven't a clue
> > where they came from and it would appear that >> > > > > > they are
> > no longer being made. I do have some 2 gallon >> > > > > >
> > zippered bags. I could use those but I would prefer >> > > > > >
> > something that isn't disposable as I intend to make bread >> > > >
> > > > weekly or more often. Yes, I know that bags can be washed >> >
> > > > > > but that's kind of a PITA. >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Grrrr... I just did not need this. But at least I
> > >> > > > > > discovered it now and not when I was fixing to make
> > toast of >> > > > > > it. I guess I will have white toast tomorrow
> > because I don't >> > > > > > need two full loaves of bread. The
> > one that I tossed was >> > > > > > about half eaten.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > They (and their larvae) can live in your drain so get
> > into the >> > > > > habit of pouring some boiling water down the
> > drain hole every >> > > > > once in a while. That'll learn 'em.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I do. I had a severe problem with drain flies once
> > before. But >> > > > boiling water didn't help.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Try some bleach. Or get a can of Raid and spray it into the
> > drain. >> >
> > >> > I'm allergic to bleach and haven't seen any raid that is for
> > fruit >> > flies. I don't think either thing will kill the eggs
> > though.
> > > >
> > >> Julie, it is not physicaly possible to be allergicto bleach.
> > >
> > > I was hoping someone would point that out. HAHAHAHAHAHA
> >
> > And Ed put up the link that it is possible. It is possible to be
> > allergic to pretty much anything.
>
> Yep, you're allergic to life.
>
> p.s. No one is allergic to bleach.

Pretty much you are right. She's allergic to life.

The site is like any other, you can find such with no studies to
support it anywhere. Julie at best has an issue with the fragrances
added to some bleach products or is putting her bare hands in bleach
without sufficient cutting of the material to a level safe for that.



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