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On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote:
> When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for > a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, > as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 > Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or you may not. Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out there. Haig Pinch contains a considerable amount of grain whisky, which contributes a raw edge without much flavor. Almost all single malt drinkers would turn up their noses at it for anything besides mixed drinks or cooking. -- Larry |
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:56:31 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote:
> On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote: > > > When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for > > a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, > > as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 > > Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... > > Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() > > If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or > you may not. Try educating him instead of belittling him. Talk to him about the differences between the whiskys *within his price range*. > Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. > > But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out > there. Haig Pinch contains a considerable amount of grain whisky, which > contributes a raw edge without much flavor. Almost all single malt > drinkers would turn up their noses at it for anything besides mixed > drinks or cooking. > I used to know someone whose favorite brand was Pinch and he drank it straight... So much for that theory. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:17:51 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:56:31 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote: > >>On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote: >> >>> When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for >>> a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, >>> as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 >>> Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... >> >>Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() >> >>If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or >>you may not. Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. > >I never drink more than one, so it must be all about that great Aldi >flavor for me ![]() > >>But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out >>there. > >I'm sure there is, just like with wine. Bruce is a *** name; Bruthe. |
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On 05/11/2014 3:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:56:31 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote: > >> On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote: >> >>> When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for >>> a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, >>> as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 >>> Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... >> >> Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() >> >> If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or >> you may not. Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. > > I never drink more than one, so it must be all about that great Aldi > flavor for me ![]() > >> But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out >> there. > > I'm sure there is, just like with wine. > As it happens, Suntory, the winner, also owns Chateau Lagrange, a very good Bordeaux property that produces a very fine wine. Graham |
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![]() "Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:56:31 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote: > >>On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote: >> >>> When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for >>> a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, >>> as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 >>> Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... >> >>Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() >> >>If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or >>you may not. Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. > > I never drink more than one, so it must be all about that great Aldi > flavor for me ![]() > >>But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out >>there. > > I'm sure there is, just like with wine. I am a G&T girl myself ;-) -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() "Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:17:37 -0000, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:56:31 -0500, pltrgyst > wrote: >>> >>>>On 11/5/14, 12:42 AM, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>>> When I just started drinking whiskey 6 years ago, I asked someone for >>>>> a few tips, as in names of good whiskies. He said it doesn't matter, >>>>> as long as it's whiskey. So far, I find that to be true. I like a $28 >>>>> Aldi whisky just as much as a $60 Dimple.... >>>> >>>>Well, if that works for you, you'll save an awful lot of money. 8 ![]() >>>> >>>>If you keep tasting, you may develop an appreciation for quality -- or >>>>you may not. Many people just drink for the effect it has on them. >>> >>> I never drink more than one, so it must be all about that great Aldi >>> flavor for me ![]() >>> >>>>But to some of us, there's a much more complex world of flavor out >>>>there. >>> >>> I'm sure there is, just like with wine. >> >>I am a G&T girl myself ;-) > > I've never tried that. Gin sounds ok, but tonic sounds very sugary. Some are too sweet for me, but I have found one that is just right ![]() Try a few before you decide. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 2014-11-06 10:41 AM, notbob wrote:
> > Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include > a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. > One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very > sweet. > It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. It is right up there with ginger all, though lower than most other soda pops. Gingerale can get away with less sugar because the ginger enhances the sweetness, but with tonic water you want some of that tang. It may be a slightly less sugary drink that cola or root beer, but is sure ain't a diet drink. FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:57:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2014-11-06 10:41 AM, notbob wrote: > > > > Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include > > a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. > > One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very > > sweet. > > > > > It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. How common is this? I've NEVER heard anyone say it was otherwise. Why else would they have "sugarless" diet tonic? > It is > right up there with ginger all, though lower than most other soda pops. > Gingerale can get away with less sugar because the ginger enhances the > sweetness, but with tonic water you want some of that tang. It may be a > slightly less sugary drink that cola or root beer, but is sure ain't a > diet drink. Nobody says it is. > > FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't > care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. > > So what? You don't make a G&T with tap water. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:57:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: snip > >FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't >care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. > > depends upon the brand. Some are really nasty and more expensive. Janet US |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:20:25 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: snip >> >> Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include >> a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. >> One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very >> sweet. > >It has more sugar than soft drinks. It surprised the hell out of me, >too. 48 grams of sugar per 12 ounces of Schwepps tonic water compared >to 41 grams for Pepsi. It's why they invented "diet" tonic water >(eeeek!). > >-sw those two brands are nasty in diet Janet US |
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On 2014-11-06, Janet Bostwick > wrote:
> those two brands are nasty in diet Agree. OTOH, Tanq n' Schwepps (non-diet) and a fresh lime slice is how I roll the perfect G&T. nb |
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On 2014-11-06 2:05 PM, sf wrote:
>> >> It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. > > How common is this? I've NEVER heard anyone say it was otherwise. > Why else would they have "sugarless" diet tonic? Never? Come now. It was discussed here before when someone said they opted for tonic because it is low in sugar. >> FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't >> care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. >> >> > So what? You don't make a G&T with tap water. WTF is that supposed to mean? Try some diet tonic sometime and see if make you any more sour or bitter than you already seem to be. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:57:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2014-11-06 10:41 AM, notbob wrote: >> >> Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include >> a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. >> One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very >> sweet. >> > > >It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. It is >right up there with ginger all, though lower than most other soda pops. > Gingerale can get away with less sugar because the ginger enhances the >sweetness, but with tonic water you want some of that tang. It may be a >slightly less sugary drink that cola or root beer, but is sure ain't a >diet drink. > >FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't >care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. > Fentimans tonic water is much lower in sugar than other tonic water. Something like 30-40 calories per 100 ml. I absolutely love the stuff, but it costs something like $9 for a 4-pack of small bottles. http://www.drinkfentimans.com/#!tonic-water/c1ppb Doris > |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:21:45 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2014-11-06 2:05 PM, sf wrote: > > >> > >> It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. > > > > How common is this? I've NEVER heard anyone say it was otherwise. > > Why else would they have "sugarless" diet tonic? > > Never? Come now. It was discussed here before when someone said they > opted for tonic because it is low in sugar. > Oh, was that Julie? Believe it or not, I don't hang on her every word the way you and a couple of other posters seem to. > > >> FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't > >> care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. > >> > >> > > So what? You don't make a G&T with tap water. > > > WTF is that supposed to mean? Try some diet tonic sometime and see if > make you any more sour or bitter than you already seem to be. > You don't want sugar and don't diet tonic, too bad for you because there aren't any other choices if you want a G&T. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 2014-11-06 20:22, sf wrote:
>>> How common is this? I've NEVER heard anyone say it was otherwise. >>> Why else would they have "sugarless" diet tonic? >> >> Never? Come now. It was discussed here before when someone said they >> opted for tonic because it is low in sugar. >> > Oh, was that Julie? Believe it or not, I don't hang on her every word > the way you and a couple of other posters seem to. Actually, I don't think it was Julie. >> >>>> FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't >>>> care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. >>>> >>>> >>> So what? You don't make a G&T with tap water. >> >> >> WTF is that supposed to mean? Try some diet tonic sometime and see if >> make you any more sour or bitter than you already seem to be. >> > You don't want sugar and don't diet tonic, too bad for you because > there aren't any other choices if you want a G&T. > I have no idea WTF you are talking about. I said that my wife used to get diet tonic water and I thought it was disgusting. I like gin and tonic. But feel free to jump to some other bizarre conclusion. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 20:52:38 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2014-11-06 20:22, sf wrote: > > >>> How common is this? I've NEVER heard anyone say it was otherwise. > >>> Why else would they have "sugarless" diet tonic? > >> > >> Never? Come now. It was discussed here before when someone said they > >> opted for tonic because it is low in sugar. > >> > > Oh, was that Julie? Believe it or not, I don't hang on her every word > > the way you and a couple of other posters seem to. > > Actually, I don't think it was Julie. > >> > >>>> FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't > >>>> care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> So what? You don't make a G&T with tap water. > >> > >> > >> WTF is that supposed to mean? Try some diet tonic sometime and see if > >> make you any more sour or bitter than you already seem to be. > >> > > You don't want sugar and don't diet tonic, too bad for you because > > there aren't any other choices if you want a G&T. > > > > I have no idea WTF you are talking about. I said that my wife used to > get diet tonic water and I thought it was disgusting. I like gin and > tonic. But feel free to jump to some other bizarre conclusion. > I think whatever it is you're complaining about is stupid. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:16:23 -0800, sf wrote:
> I think whatever it is you're complaining about is stupid. Barbara totally lost track of the conversation a few posts ago and lashes out at Dave in frustration. This is getting more and more common lately. -sw |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 20:42:57 -0600, Atticus Finch
> wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:16:23 -0800, sf wrote: > > > I think whatever it is you're complaining about is stupid. > > Barbara totally lost track of the conversation a few posts ago and > lashes out at Dave in frustration. This is getting more and more > common lately. > > -sw Steve Wertz nymshifting just to garner attention is far more common, little man. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include > a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. > One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very > sweet. > > nb I think it's nasty, but my friend likes it so I do get it when she's coming over and pour any leftover out as soon as she's gone if she doesn't want to take it. I know everyone has their own taste, but I could not drink that stuff. Cheri |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2014-11-06 10:41 AM, notbob wrote: >> >> Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include >> a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. >> One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very >> sweet. >> > > > It is a common misunderstanding that tonic water is low in sugar. It is > right up there with ginger all, though lower than most other soda pops. > Gingerale can get away with less sugar because the ginger enhances the > sweetness, but with tonic water you want some of that tang. It may be a > slightly less sugary drink that cola or root beer, but is sure ain't a > diet drink. > > FWIW, there is, or used to be, diet tonic water on the market. I don't > care for diet pops, and I found diet tonic especially unacceptable. I think there still is, and I agree with you about diet tonic. It reminds me of magnesium citrate. Cheri |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message ... > On 2014-11-06, Janet Bostwick > wrote: > >> those two brands are nasty in diet > > Agree. > > OTOH, Tanq n' Schwepps (non-diet) and a fresh lime slice is > how I roll the perfect G&T. > > nb There is no perfect G&T IMO, or anything with gin. One of my best friends always drank Beefeaters straight, and the smell is just awful to me, worse than the taste even. Cheri |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:13:21 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote: > > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... > > On 2014-11-06, Janet Bostwick > wrote: > > > >> those two brands are nasty in diet > > > > Agree. > > > > OTOH, Tanq n' Schwepps (non-diet) and a fresh lime slice is > > how I roll the perfect G&T. > > > > nb > > There is no perfect G&T IMO, or anything with gin. One of my best friends > always drank Beefeaters straight, and the smell is just awful to me, worse > than the taste even. > Beefeaters and tonic was my drink of choice back in the day. No way could I drink it straight. I had to learn to drink gin by going botanical first. Now I drink martinis made with London dry and dislike botanicals. It's like learning to drink wine, start with the sweet and progress to dry. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 2014-11-07 8:32 AM, sf wrote:
> How did Dave and nb manage to equate "far from sugary" (which is a > taste perception) with "low in sugar"? I agree with you that it > doesn't taste sugary when it's mixed with gin and juice from a wedge > of lemon or lime. > Dave and nb didn't. Dave reinforced nb's comment about tonic having sugar and the misunderstanding that some people seem to have about it being low in sugar because of the bitter taste. As I pointed out,someone had previously commented here that she drank tonic water because,s he thought, it was low in sugar. It was in another thread. It was not Bove. I guess you choose not to remember,. Feel free to check the archives. I will rely on my memory. |
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:09:20 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: > On 2014-11-07 8:32 AM, sf wrote: > > > How did Dave and nb manage to equate "far from sugary" (which is a > > taste perception) with "low in sugar"? I agree with you that it > > doesn't taste sugary when it's mixed with gin and juice from a wedge > > of lemon or lime. > > > > Dave and nb didn't. Dave reinforced nb's comment about tonic having > sugar and the misunderstanding that some people seem to have about it > being low in sugar because of the bitter taste. As I pointed out,someone > had previously commented here that she drank tonic water because,s he > thought, it was low in sugar. It was in another thread. It was not Bove. > I guess you choose not to remember,. Feel free to check the archives. I > will rely on my memory. > I won't waste my time on trying to figure out why you two started equating "not sugary" which is a taste perception with "low in sugar" which is a formula. End of story. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 11/7/2014 1:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
> > "notbob" > wrote in message > ... > >> Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include >> a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. >> One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very >> sweet. >> >> nb > > I think it's nasty, but my friend likes it so I do get it when she's > coming over and pour any leftover out as soon as she's gone if she > doesn't want to take it. I know everyone has their own taste, but I > could not drink that stuff. > > Cheri Tonic water on its own is nasty but with good gin, it is heavenly. |
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On 11/7/2014 1:13 AM, Cheri wrote:
> There is no perfect G&T IMO, or anything with gin. One of my best > friends always drank Beefeaters straight, and the smell is just awful to > me, worse than the taste even. > > Cheri That is a rather sweeping statement given the multitude and span of flavors with gin. While they all have the juniper background, the other botanicals greatly changes the flavor. IMO, Beefeaters makes a good G & T, but I'd not drink it straight. I will drink Martin Miller or Tanguaray Ten straight though. Then yhou have some of the low end gin that I won't drink under any circumstance as they are rough and not good tasting. Good chance there is a gin out there you'd like. It may or may not be expensive and it may or may not be one that I like. If you have the opportunity, taste some others. Think of it as flavored vodka. |
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On 2014-11-07 10:25 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Tonic water on its own is nasty but with good gin, it is heavenly. It's not that bad. It is the favourite soft drink of a friend of mine. Some people like bitter drinks. I used to like bitter lemon, but I have not seen that stuff for sale in decades. |
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![]() "sf" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:13:21 -0800, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> >> "notbob" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 2014-11-06, Janet Bostwick > wrote: >> > >> >> those two brands are nasty in diet >> > >> > Agree. >> > >> > OTOH, Tanq n' Schwepps (non-diet) and a fresh lime slice is >> > how I roll the perfect G&T. >> > >> > nb >> >> There is no perfect G&T IMO, or anything with gin. One of my best friends >> always drank Beefeaters straight, and the smell is just awful to me, >> worse >> than the taste even. >> > > Beefeaters and tonic was my drink of choice back in the day. No way > could I drink it straight. I had to learn to drink gin by going > botanical first. Now I drink martinis made with London dry and > dislike botanicals. It's like learning to drink wine, start with the > sweet and progress to dry. I like Finlandia vodka on the rocks, but I find that I'm not much of a drinker at all these days except for the occasional tomato beer or bloody mary. Cheri |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 11/7/2014 1:06 AM, Cheri wrote: >> >> "notbob" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> Straight tonic water (Schwepps, Canada Dry, etc) does, indeed, include >>> a lot of sugar (or HFCS). Gotta offset quinine's bitterness, somehow. >>> One may think tonic water is not sweet, but it is, in fact, very >>> sweet. >>> >>> nb >> >> I think it's nasty, but my friend likes it so I do get it when she's >> coming over and pour any leftover out as soon as she's gone if she >> doesn't want to take it. I know everyone has their own taste, but I >> could not drink that stuff. >> >> Cheri > > Tonic water on its own is nasty but with good gin, it is heavenly. And...that would be your own taste. Cheri |
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![]() "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 11/7/2014 1:13 AM, Cheri wrote: > >> There is no perfect G&T IMO, or anything with gin. One of my best >> friends always drank Beefeaters straight, and the smell is just awful to >> me, worse than the taste even. >> >> Cheri > > That is a rather sweeping statement given the multitude and span of > flavors with gin. While they all have the juniper background, the other > botanicals greatly changes the flavor. > > IMO, Beefeaters makes a good G & T, but I'd not drink it straight. I will > drink Martin Miller or Tanguaray Ten straight though. Then yhou have some > of the low end gin that I won't drink under any circumstance as they are > rough and not good tasting. > > Good chance there is a gin out there you'd like. It may or may not be > expensive and it may or may not be one that I like. If you have the > opportunity, taste some others. Think of it as flavored vodka. Yes, and it's my sweeping statement, you have your own. I used to be a bartender years ago and there are no gins that I like to date. Why would I keep searching for something I don't care for when there is good vodka (unflavored), rum, etc. that I do care for? Enjoy your G&T. Cheri |
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