On Friday, November 14, 2014 10:27:48 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:09:49 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, November 14, 2014 8:32:31 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On 11/14/2014 1:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Yep, read all that but I still use it. Sparingly but then I don't think
> > > >> it is supposed to be used in quantity
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > That was one powerful letter! Part of this MSG thing originates with our
> > > > distrust of the Chinese. It's an attitude that's still going strong today.
> > >
> > > Well, I have nothing against either the Chinese or MSG) Is it racism?
> > >
> > >
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> > One only has to look at the posts on this newsgroup to see the mistrust of the Chinese by Westerners. China has typically had a more advanced civilization than the rest of the world pretty much from the start. It seems fairly obvious that it's going to be the manufacturing/technological giant in this century.
> >
> > We, as Americans, like to think that the sun never sets on ourselves but we should remember what happened to the last people that had that attitude. And the beat goes on.
>
> The Chinese star has dimmed. They used to be innovators, now they
> just steal ideas and copy products. They don't even try to make a
> better version. They make a look alike with zero quality.
>
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> Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

I think you're right that the Chinese aren't innovators but the Japanese were the same way 50 years ago. My belief is that this will change as they start seeing themselves in a more confident light.

My assumption is that most of the Apple products are made in China - at least my iPad is. I also have a Japanese branded guitar made in China that's just spiffy. The Chinese are capable of making wonderful, beautiful, products as well as cheap crap. That's a damn good position to be in.