Of course, this will fly right over the pointy heads of those who need
it the most
http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-talk...+ a+food+snob

580 characters are shortened to
http://tinyurl.com/ohgpb6n




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"sf" > wrote in message
...
>
> Of course, this will fly right over the pointy heads of those who need
> it the most
> http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-talk...+ a+food+snob


I think this is one of the better parts of the article. Very true IMO too.
:-)



" 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone saying:
"I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob someone
of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself for a
second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little something
about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make the
world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
tastes good, it is good — even if it's not to you."

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:26:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri wrote:

> " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone saying:
> "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob someone
> of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself for a
> second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
> ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little something
> about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make the
> world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
> tastes good, it is good -- even if it's not to you."

Exactly. Everyone has their own preferences. Live and let live.

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:10:07 PM UTC-8, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:26:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri wrote:
>
> > " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone saying:
> > "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob someone
> > of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself for a
> > second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
> > ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little something
> > about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make the
> > world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
> > tastes good, it is good -- even if it's not to you."
>
> Exactly. Everyone has their own preferences. Live and let live.

Many people believe that the purpose of conversation is to force
their thoughts upon others -- not to receive information or entertain
differing points of view.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:42:19 -0800, sf wrote:

> Of course, this will fly right over the pointy heads of those who need
> it the most
> http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-talk-about-,,,,
>
> 580 characters are shortened to
> http://tinyurl.com/ohgpb6n

I really really like the second picture where she's expecting the
grapes to burst at any moment and *** on her face.

"Cheri" > wrote in message

> " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone
> saying: "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob
> someone of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself
> for a second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
> ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little something
> about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make the
> world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
> tastes good, it is good — even if it's not to you."

I agree absolutely!!!! There is too much of that here


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> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:10:07 PM UTC-8, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:26:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone
>> > saying:
>> > "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob
>> > someone
>> > of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself for a
>> > second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
>> > ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little
>> > something
>> > about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make
>> > the
>> > world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
>> > tastes good, it is good -- even if it's not to you."
>>
>> Exactly. Everyone has their own preferences. Live and let live.
>
> Many people believe that the purpose of conversation is to force
> their thoughts upon others -- not to receive information or entertain
> differing points of view.

You noticed too, huh? )



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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
>> " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone
>> saying: "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you
>> rob
>> someone of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself
>> for a second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
>> ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little
>> something
>> about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make
>> the
>> world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
>> tastes good, it is good — even if it's not to you."
>
> I agree absolutely!!!! There is too much of that here

I didn't write that, I quoted it from the article that sf posted, but I
totally agree with it.

Cheri

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:30:26 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>
> > " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone
> > saying: "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you rob
> > someone of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of yourself
> > for a second and ask them what it is that makes them love this particular
> > ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little something
> > about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make the
> > world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
> > tastes good, it is good — even if it's not to you."
>
> I agree absolutely!!!! There is too much of that here

+1

It seems like there's no point in trying to talk about food in rfc,
because the majority of responses are negative. All you need to do is
look at Koko's recent postings. I don't give a rat's *ss if some
stranger on rfc likes cilantro (aka: fresh coriander) or not. I do,
my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
internet.

Also, the nit picking and pedantry here is breathtaking. The thread
that degenerated into how to spell bouillon correctly is a classic
example. Someone who wasn't a pedant would have simply spelled it
correctly in his reply and moved on, but oh no - that will never
happen here. Every other reader clearly understood, but he had to
hyper-focus on a typo and kill the discussion.

bouillon = meat stock (often in the form of a dehydrated cube or
powder in the USA and Canada)

bullion = refined metal, usually refers to gold or silver


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>
>>> " 'I'm especially put off by people whose first response to someone
>>> saying: "I like such-and-such." is "Ewwww! I hate that!" Why would you
>>> rob
>>> someone of their joy? Even if it's not your bag, step outside of
>>> yourself
>>> for a second and ask them what it is that makes them love this
>>> particular
>>> ingredient, dish, restaurant, cuisine. You get to learn a little
>>> something
>>> about it and the person who loves it, and you get a chance to not make
>>> the
>>> world suck a little more for them. Bottom line: As I always say, it it
>>> tastes good, it is good — even if it's not to you."
>>
>> I agree absolutely!!!! There is too much of that here
>
> I didn't write that, I quoted it from the article that sf posted, but I
> totally agree with it.

Yes I saw and I agreed with it That was a jolly good article and
there are a few folk who I really wish would read it! It pointed out very
well those that 'know everything' and put everyone else down
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On 2014-11-19 10:53 AM, sf wrote:

>
> It seems like there's no point in trying to talk about food in rfc,
> because the majority of responses are negative. All you need to do is
> look at Koko's recent postings. I don't give a rat's *ss if some
> stranger on rfc likes cilantro (aka: fresh coriander) or not. I do,


What if it were nutmeg ;-)


> my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
> cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
> compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
> internet.

You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-11-19 10:53 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > It seems like there's no point in trying to talk about food in rfc,
> > because the majority of responses are negative. All you need to do is
> > look at Koko's recent postings. I don't give a rat's *ss if some
> > stranger on rfc likes cilantro (aka: fresh coriander) or not. I do,
>
>
> What if it were nutmeg ;-)
>
At least I don't beat you over the head with it every single time it's
mentioned.
>
> > my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
> > cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
> > compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
> > internet.
>
> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".

At least he's not part of your immediate family.


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On 2014-11-19 4:30 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> What if it were nutmeg ;-)
>>
> At least I don't beat you over the head with it every single time it's
> mentioned.

;-)


>>
>>> my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
>>> cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
>>> compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
>>> internet.
>>
>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>
> At least he's not part of your immediate family.

He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes. I will got
to a hell of a lot more expense and effort to make something good for
people who will appreciate the effort than I will for someone who is not
only unlikely to appreciate it, but who will be very rude in their
expression of disgust over the effort.

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".

Why don't you say it?

On 2014-11-19 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>
> Why don't you say it?

I suppose I could ;-)
FWIW.. the next time I was obligated to include them I asked his
parents to brink something he would like for dessert. That was a major
compromise because if it were up to me I would not have asked him

On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:44:44 PM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-11-19 4:30 PM, sf wrote:

> >>> my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
> >>> cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
> >>> compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
> >>> internet.
> >>
> >> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
> >> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
> >
> > At least he's not part of your immediate family.
>
> He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
> include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
> to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
> irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
> to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes. I will got
> to a hell of a lot more expense and effort to make something good for
> people who will appreciate the effort than I will for someone who is not
> only unlikely to appreciate it, but who will be very rude in their
> expression of disgust over the effort.

Just send an email: as we have learned from years of experience that
there is nothing that we can cook that you would enjoy, please bring
your own meal. Copy every member of your family who has experienced
his pickiness.

On 11/19/2014 6:37 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:44:44 PM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
>> include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
>> to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
>> irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
>> to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes.
(snippety)
>
> Just send an email: as we have learned from years of experience that
> there is nothing that we can cook that you would enjoy, please bring
> your own meal. Copy every member of your family who has experienced
> his pickiness.
>
<Applause!>

Jill

On 11/19/2014 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>
> Why don't you say it?
>
Or let the 40 year old "kid" go hungry rather than act like a 4 year old.

Jill

In news:rec.food.cooking, posted on Wed, 19 Nov
2014 15:37:08 -0800 (PST) the following:

> Just send an email: as we have learned from years of experience that
> there is nothing that we can cook that you would enjoy, please bring
> your own meal. Copy every member of your family who has experienced
> his pickiness.

I love that idea!

I have a relative that used to be picky about his food, and yet he could
eat Kraft Macaroni & Cheese....I think even the cheap kind with the
powdered cheese packet.

Damaeus

In news:rec.food.cooking, Dave Smith > posted
on Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:44:41 -0500 the following:

> He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
> include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
> to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
> irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
> to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes. I will got
> to a hell of a lot more expense and effort to make something good for
> people who will appreciate the effort than I will for someone who is not
> only unlikely to appreciate it, but who will be very rude in their
> expression of disgust over the effort.

You could try sassy comments.

My cousin once complained to my dad who'd smoked a turkey: "This
turkey's dry."

My dad said, "Pour water on it."

Damaeus

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:44:44 PM UTC-8, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2014-11-19 4:30 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> >>> my family does and I'm talking about what I served to them; I'm not
>> >>> cooking for the naysayer who can't keep his mouth shut and feels
>> >>> compelled to put his oh so clever comments about soaplantro onto the
>> >>> internet.
>> >>
>> >> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal
>> >> about
>> >> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>> >
>> > At least he's not part of your immediate family.
>>
>> He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
>> include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
>> to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
>> irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
>> to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes. I will got
>> to a hell of a lot more expense and effort to make something good for
>> people who will appreciate the effort than I will for someone who is not
>> only unlikely to appreciate it, but who will be very rude in their
>> expression of disgust over the effort.
>
> Just send an email: as we have learned from years of experience that
> there is nothing that we can cook that you would enjoy, please bring
> your own meal. Copy every member of your family who has experienced
> his pickiness.

I actually did something like that with one smaller spoiled member of the
family, told his mom to bring whatever he will eat and drink after several
get togethers, honestly if he loved pizza or something like that and you got
it special for him, he would say he doesn't like that anymore now, same with
juice, sparkling cider,...and so on. LOL

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/19/2014 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>>
>> Why don't you say it?
>>
> Or let the 40 year old "kid" go hungry rather than act like a 4 year old.

I don't get it. I come from a family of picky eaters and married into a
family with some picky eaters. That's just how some people are and I have
no problems catering to them.

Now if I had a person who said that they would only eat something like Kraft
Mac and Cheese, and I fixed that for them only to have them say that they
didn't like it, I might have an issue with that but so far that has never
happened.

On 11/19/2014 11:24 PM, Damaeus wrote:
> In news:rec.food.cooking, Dave Smith > posted
> on Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:44:41 -0500 the following:
>
>> He is my brother's kid. Apparently we have some sort of obligation to
>> include him on certain occasions. I realize that it is not appropriate
>> to let him no that he is the charity case invitation, but dammit... it
>> irks me to go out of my way to offer twice as many options at a meal and
>> to have him be so vocal about how there is nothing he likes. I will got
>> to a hell of a lot more expense and effort to make something good for
>> people who will appreciate the effort than I will for someone who is not
>> only unlikely to appreciate it, but who will be very rude in their
>> expression of disgust over the effort.
>
> You could try sassy comments.
>
> My cousin once complained to my dad who'd smoked a turkey: "This
> turkey's dry."
>
> My dad said, "Pour water on it."
>
> Damaeus

LOL Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.

My youngest son was a picky eater, until he spent 2 years in jail for
drug possession, and that changed his attitude. Here in Texas, they
serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
before. He actually eats some of those, now. George and I took him to a
Vietnamese restaurant, and he actually placed an order, and that had
never happened before. People can change.

Becca

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:15:40 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-11-19 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>>
>> Why don't you say it?
>
>I suppose I could ;-)

I understand where you're coming from, but at this stage of my life I
couldn't be bothered tolerating crap like that

>FWIW.. the next time I was obligated to include them I asked his
>parents to brink something he would like for dessert. That was a major
>compromise because if it were up to me I would not have asked him

Oh well. Maybe in the future you could consider your nephew to be a
form of entertainment and ensure you serve up his dislikes... and only
his dislikes

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:06:31 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 11/19/2014 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>>
>> Why don't you say it?
>>
>Or let the 40 year old "kid" go hungry rather than act like a 4 year old.

I'd do both

On 2014-11-19 7:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal about
>>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>>
>> Why don't you say it?
>>
> Or let the 40 year old "kid" go hungry rather than act like a 4 year old.


You got it Jill. He does act like a child. I am not a child. My son is
not a child. My nieces and nephews are all adults. My son, aged 37,
is one of the youngest of that generation. I love most of them dearly
and want to deal with them as adults. Then there is the one that acts
like a child. Sorry. I don't want to have to deal with it.

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:52:22 AM UTC-8, Becca EmaNymton wrote:

> in jail in Texas, they
> serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
> potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
> before. He actually eats some of those, now.

Man, my mouth is watering now. As a retirement plan B, what kind of
crime would I have to commit to get at those good eats in jail? Nothing
violent, please.

1. Buy Greyhound ticket to Texas
2. Commit crime
3. Profit!

> wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:52:22 AM UTC-8, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
>
>> in jail in Texas, they
>> serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
>> potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
>> before. He actually eats some of those, now.
>
> Man, my mouth is watering now. As a retirement plan B, what kind of
> crime would I have to commit to get at those good eats in jail? Nothing
> violent, please.
>
> 1. Buy Greyhound ticket to Texas
> 2. Commit crime
> 3. Profit!

Agree! Although I am not a fan of greens unless raw and not really into
sweet potatoes, I would love the rest of it. I don't think those things are
typical jail or prison fare though. From what I have seen is is mostly
bologna sandwiches.

On 11/20/2014 5:30 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-11-19 7:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 11/19/2014 6:06 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:41:08 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should try cooking for my now over 40 nephew who is very vocal
>>>> about
>>>> his dislikes. It is everything I can do not to say "Too F&%^ng bad".
>>>
>>> Why don't you say it?
>>>
>> Or let the 40 year old "kid" go hungry rather than act like a 4 year old.
>
>
> You got it Jill. He does act like a child. I am not a child. My son is
> not a child. My nieces and nephews are all adults. My son, aged 37, is
> one of the youngest of that generation. I love most of them dearly and
> want to deal with them as adults. Then there is the one that acts like a
> child. Sorry. I don't want to have to deal with it.
>
>
>
I suppose it can be difficult in such family situations. Me, I've never
worried about rocking the boat. I'm outspoken. When my brother and his
girlfriend (older than I am) were here for a week, OMG was she picky!
She won't eat any green vegetables. She enjoyed my chicken & dumplings
but other dinner suggestions (even steak & baked potato) were met with
resistance. I finally said hey, I'm doing the cooking using what I've
got in the fridge/freezer. If you don't like it, go to the grocery
store or find a restaurant. She shut up. They went out to eat several
evenings that week.

Jill

On 11/20/2014 4:46 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:52:22 AM UTC-8, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
>
>> in jail in Texas, they
>> serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
>> potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
>> before. He actually eats some of those, now.
>
> Man, my mouth is watering now. As a retirement plan B, what kind of
> crime would I have to commit to get at those good eats in jail? Nothing
> violent, please.
>
> 1. Buy Greyhound ticket to Texas
> 2. Commit crime
> 3. Profit!

Come on over to our house, we will be happy to feed you. :-)

Becca

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:40:35 -0600, Becca EmaNymton
> wrote:

> On 11/20/2014 4:46 PM, wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:52:22 AM UTC-8, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
> >
> >> in jail in Texas, they
> >> serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
> >> potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
> >> before. He actually eats some of those, now.
> >
> > Man, my mouth is watering now. As a retirement plan B, what kind of
> > crime would I have to commit to get at those good eats in jail? Nothing
> > violent, please.
> >
> > 1. Buy Greyhound ticket to Texas
> > 2. Commit crime
> > 3. Profit!
>
> Come on over to our house, we will be happy to feed you. :-)
>
I guess he wasn't a "guest" of Joe Arpaio who is the sheriff that
makes inmates wear pink, sleep in tents and charges inmates 40¢ for
meals. What he has done that's good is taken over the local animal
shelter and staffed it with prisoners who work for 28¢ an hour. Dogs
are neutered, current on all shots, in great health, and when they are
placed into a new home, they are micro-chipped. He also operates a
farm with prison labor to grow vegetables and pork to feed inmates.
Minus the pink clothing and tents, all of the above are proven to be
excellent for prisoner rehabilitation. San Francisco county jail has
had a prison Farm to Table program for years and practice is
spreading. Teach them a way to earn money honestly and they might not
return to jail. Whatta concept!
http://www.well.com/user/suscon/esal...ed/garden.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5400670.html



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On 11/23/2014 2:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:40:35 -0600, Becca EmaNymton
> > wrote:
>
>> On 11/20/2014 4:46 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:52:22 AM UTC-8, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
>>>
>>>> in jail in Texas, they
>>>> serve grits, turnip greens, squash, okra, cabbage, pinto beans, sweet
>>>> potatoes, field peas, hoppin' john, meat loaf, foods that he never ate,
>>>> before. He actually eats some of those, now.
>>>
>>> Man, my mouth is watering now. As a retirement plan B, what kind of
>>> crime would I have to commit to get at those good eats in jail? Nothing
>>> violent, please.
>>>
>>> 1. Buy Greyhound ticket to Texas
>>> 2. Commit crime
>>> 3. Profit!
>>
>> Come on over to our house, we will be happy to feed you. :-)
>>
> I guess he wasn't a "guest" of Joe Arpaio who is the sheriff that
> makes inmates wear pink, sleep in tents and charges inmates 40¢ for
> meals. What he has done that's good is taken over the local animal
> shelter and staffed it with prisoners who work for 28¢ an hour. Dogs
> are neutered, current on all shots, in great health, and when they are
> placed into a new home, they are micro-chipped. He also operates a
> farm with prison labor to grow vegetables and pork to feed inmates.
> Minus the pink clothing and tents, all of the above are proven to be
> excellent for prisoner rehabilitation. San Francisco county jail has
> had a prison Farm to Table program for years and practice is
> spreading. Teach them a way to earn money honestly and they might not
> return to jail. Whatta concept!
> http://www.well.com/user/suscon/esal...ed/garden.html
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5400670.html

No, he was here in Texas, where every inmate is supposed to have a job.
Texas prisons are well known for agriculture and animal husbandry, they
grow crops almost annually, the crops are harvested, processed and
served to the inmates and the staff. The inmates raise and butcher
cattle, hogs and chickens, which might give them a profession after they
are released. Inmates grow and process cotton, they make and sew their
own prison garments, and they make uniforms, belts and shoes for the
guards. There is a unit where inmates repair computers and electronics;
Texas likes to keep their inmates busy.

Becca

"Snob" is in the ear and mind of the listener. If someone knows and talks wine, for instance, far be it from me to call him a snob. I admire anyone who is knowledgeable in any given subject, be it in the arts or sciences..

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Becca EmaNymton
> wrote:

> No, he was here in Texas, where every inmate is supposed to have a job.
> Texas prisons are well known for agriculture and animal husbandry, they
> grow crops almost annually, the crops are harvested, processed and
> served to the inmates and the staff. The inmates raise and butcher
> cattle, hogs and chickens, which might give them a profession after they
> are released. Inmates grow and process cotton, they make and sew their
> own prison garments, and they make uniforms, belts and shoes for the
> guards. There is a unit where inmates repair computers and electronics;
> Texas likes to keep their inmates busy.

More prison systems need to take a better look at rehabilitation.

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Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:38:56 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:
>
>
>
> "Snob" is in the ear and mind of the listener. If someone knows and talks wine, for instance, far be it from me to call him a snob. I admire anyone who is knowledgeable in any given subject, be it in the arts or sciences..
>
I think the examples given reflected a few posters here who are far
from knowledgeable or helpful.


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Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:08:08 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Becca EmaNymton
> wrote:
>
>> No, he was here in Texas, where every inmate is supposed to have a job.
>> Texas prisons are well known for agriculture and animal husbandry, they
>> grow crops almost annually, the crops are harvested, processed and
>> served to the inmates and the staff. The inmates raise and butcher
>> cattle, hogs and chickens, which might give them a profession after they
>> are released. Inmates grow and process cotton, they make and sew their
>> own prison garments, and they make uniforms, belts and shoes for the
>> guards. There is a unit where inmates repair computers and electronics;
>> Texas likes to keep their inmates busy.
>
>More prison systems need to take a better look at rehabilitation.

The very same thing is attempted in every state, in NY that type of
rehabilitation is called "Honor Farms", the "trustees" (not real
criminal types) are sent to live in barracks on a farm (really frees
up more cells) but truth is most return to prison... there's not much
chance of a career in agriculture, it's really not possible to earn a
living picking crops. The honor Farm is simply free labor that feeds
the inmates and guards without offending the taxpayers. On eastern
Long Island the honor farm is on a spit of land mostly surrounded by
the sea, no chance of escape unless one is an olympic swimmer, it's
not much different from free labor via a chain gang... makes good
press but doesn't benefit the inmates one iota, other than working
their tails off in the fresh air it's better than rotting in a tiny
cell. Most become career inmates, they're fed well, get a free place
to sleep with heat in winter and A/C in summer, free medical care,
they're relatively safe and well cared for. It's amazing how many
young folks choose to be career inmates rather than return to an
abusive home life. It's quite sad but the penal system rehabilitates
no one.

On 2014-11-23 19:38, Kalmia wrote:
>
>
>
> "Snob" is in the ear and mind of the listener. If someone knows and
> talks wine, for instance, far be it from me to call him a snob. I
> admire anyone who is knowledgeable in any given subject, be it in the
> arts or sciences..
>
So true. It is often in the mind of the listener. OTOH, there are
people who try to use all the right lines but it's all talk. I have a
good friend who is into wine in a big way. He has turned his love of
wine into a business and promotes some foreign wines and set up wine
tastings and dinners. It's great to go out to wineries with him because
we end up getting the deluxe treatment. I know he doesn't like cheap
wine and probably does not enjoy the wines we usually buy for ourselves,
but I don't consider him to be a snob.

On 2014-11-23 20:08, sf wrote:
>>are released. Inmates grow and process cotton, they make and sew their
>> own prison garments, and they make uniforms, belts and shoes for the
>> guards. There is a unit where inmates repair computers and electronics;
>> Texas likes to keep their inmates busy.
>
> More prison systems need to take a better look at rehabilitation.
>

I don't know how different the US system is from ours, but it's pretty
hard to actually end up in jail here and people are usually given lots
of opportunity to clean up their act before they end up in jail. They
usually have more than enough time to rehabilitate before they end up in
jail.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Becca EmaNymton
> > wrote:
>
>> No, he was here in Texas, where every inmate is supposed to have a job.
>> Texas prisons are well known for agriculture and animal husbandry, they
>> grow crops almost annually, the crops are harvested, processed and
>> served to the inmates and the staff. The inmates raise and butcher
>> cattle, hogs and chickens, which might give them a profession after they
>> are released. Inmates grow and process cotton, they make and sew their
>> own prison garments, and they make uniforms, belts and shoes for the
>> guards. There is a unit where inmates repair computers and electronics;
>> Texas likes to keep their inmates busy.
>
> More prison systems need to take a better look at rehabilitation.
>

rehabilitation might be more successful if the inmate needed to show he was
rehabilitated before they let him out.

On 2014-11-23 21:16, Pico Rico wrote:

>> More prison systems need to take a better look at rehabilitation.
>>
>
> rehabilitation might be more successful if the inmate needed to show he was
> rehabilitated before they let him out.
>


I am frequently left shaking my head in wonder when I read about people
being arrested for violent crimes and facing charges including break of
parole or bail conditions and then it says they will be appearing in
court for a bail hearing. One might suggest that being busted for a
crime while on bail or parole would me they go right back to jail.