jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/17/2014 6:36 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:16:03 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps I did, but they are all good - you don't need to ask, just
>>>> walk down the street and find something that looks interesting.
>>>> It's part of the fun of eating out in NYC or, for that matter,
>>>> large parts of Queens and Brooklyn, too.
>>>
>>> That's how we choose where to eat no matter where we are. We look
>>> at the menus first and then the interior of the restaurant.
>>
>> Yes, and it harkens back to the days before we had Yelp and other
>> online reviews.
>>
>> -S-
>>
>>
> I'd rather just ask someone. As spamtrap said, "You can spend just as
> much money on mediocre food as on a memorable meal." Why pick a place
> that turns out to be just so-so?
>
> Jill

We're really just talking at and not to each other here. Have a good
meal, wherever you end up.

-S-

On 12/17/2014 7:30 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 6:36 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:16:03 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I did, but they are all good - you don't need to ask, just
>>>>> walk down the street and find something that looks interesting.
>>>>> It's part of the fun of eating out in NYC or, for that matter,
>>>>> large parts of Queens and Brooklyn, too.
>>>>
>>>> That's how we choose where to eat no matter where we are. We look
>>>> at the menus first and then the interior of the restaurant.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it harkens back to the days before we had Yelp and other
>>> online reviews.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>> I'd rather just ask someone. As spamtrap said, "You can spend just as
>> much money on mediocre food as on a memorable meal." Why pick a place
>> that turns out to be just so-so?
>>
>> Jill
>
> We're really just talking at and not to each other here. Have a good
> meal, wherever you end up.
>
> -S-
>
>
LOL I'm at home, thanks. No plans to go to Manhattan.

Jill

On 12/17/2014 7:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>> I have family in the Pikesville area of Baltimore that will beg to
>>>> differ with you. They are strictly Kosher in and out of their
>>>> homes.
>>> And the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, and lots of other places,
>>> too.
>> Passaic county in NJ.
>
> I know there's more than one large orthodox community closer to the
> GWB - where in Passaic?
>
Passaic Park and neighbouring parts of Clifton.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:36:33 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:16:03 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps I did, but they are all good - you don't need to ask, just
> >> walk down the street and find something that looks interesting.
> >> It's part of the fun of eating out in NYC or, for that matter, large
> >> parts of Queens and Brooklyn, too.
> >
> > That's how we choose where to eat no matter where we are. We look at
> > the menus first and then the interior of the restaurant.
>
> Yes, and it harkens back to the days before we had Yelp and other online
> reviews.
>
I still find it works for me. Yelp can help, but you have to wade
through a lot manure to find the pony in there and I don't have the
patience to do that.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:39:22 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 12/17/2014 6:36 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> > sf wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:16:03 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perhaps I did, but they are all good - you don't need to ask, just
> >>> walk down the street and find something that looks interesting.
> >>> It's part of the fun of eating out in NYC or, for that matter, large
> >>> parts of Queens and Brooklyn, too.
> >>
> >> That's how we choose where to eat no matter where we are. We look at
> >> the menus first and then the interior of the restaurant.
> >
> > Yes, and it harkens back to the days before we had Yelp and other online
> > reviews.
> >
> > -S-
> >
> >
> I'd rather just ask someone. As spamtrap said, "You can spend just as
> much money on mediocre food as on a memorable meal." Why pick a place
> that turns out to be just so-so?
>
Because asking someone is unhelpful because it's based on one person's
opinion. BTDT and wasn't impressed with their choice.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 12/17/2014 8:37 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:39:22 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/17/2014 6:36 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> sf wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:16:03 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps I did, but they are all good - you don't need to ask, just
>>>>> walk down the street and find something that looks interesting.
>>>>> It's part of the fun of eating out in NYC or, for that matter, large
>>>>> parts of Queens and Brooklyn, too.
>>>>
>>>> That's how we choose where to eat no matter where we are. We look at
>>>> the menus first and then the interior of the restaurant.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it harkens back to the days before we had Yelp and other online
>>> reviews.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>>>
>> I'd rather just ask someone. As spamtrap said, "You can spend just as
>> much money on mediocre food as on a memorable meal." Why pick a place
>> that turns out to be just so-so?
>>
> Because asking someone is unhelpful because it's based on one person's
> opinion. BTDT and wasn't impressed with their choice.
>
My SO and I don't travel for art shows anymore but we always got good
recommendations just asking around. We didn't just ask one person,
either. I'm not saying we never ran into mediocre restaurants. That
could happen anywhere. But we also got some spot-on recommendations for
really good places to eat.

Jill

S Viemeister wrote:
> On 12/17/2014 7:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>> I have family in the Pikesville area of Baltimore that will beg to
>>>>> differ with you. They are strictly Kosher in and out of their
>>>>> homes.
>>>> And the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, and lots of other places,
>>>> too.
>>> Passaic county in NJ.
>>
>> I know there's more than one large orthodox community closer to the
>> GWB - where in Passaic?
>>
> Passaic Park and neighbouring parts of Clifton.

I had no idea. Clifton is where I go for good Arab food, e.g., the area
around Corrado's but, then again, Clifton is pretty big geographically.

-S-

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:39:33 -0500, "Steve Freides" >
wrote:

>S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 7:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>>> I have family in the Pikesville area of Baltimore that will beg to
>>>>>> differ with you. They are strictly Kosher in and out of their
>>>>>> homes.
>>>>> And the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, and lots of other places,
>>>>> too.
>>>> Passaic county in NJ.
>>>
>>> I know there's more than one large orthodox community closer to the
>>> GWB - where in Passaic?
>>>
>> Passaic Park and neighbouring parts of Clifton.
>
>I had no idea. Clifton is where I go for good Arab food, e.g., the area
>around Corrado's but, then again, Clifton is pretty big geographically.
>
>-S-
>

There are still pockets in Passaic & Clifton, but there are more in
Teaneck these days.

On 12/18/2014 11:39 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 7:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>>> I have family in the Pikesville area of Baltimore that will beg to
>>>>>> differ with you. They are strictly Kosher in and out of their
>>>>>> homes.
>>>>> And the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, and lots of other places,
>>>>> too.
>>>> Passaic county in NJ.
>>> I know there's more than one large orthodox community closer to the
>>> GWB - where in Passaic?
>> Passaic Park and neighbouring parts of Clifton.
>
> I had no idea. Clifton is where I go for good Arab food, e.g., the area
> around Corrado's but, then again, Clifton is pretty big geographically.
>
Paterson has also had a large Arab community for decades, many of them
Lebanese (and possibly Syrian?) Christians.

Yes, Clifton is pretty big - it wraps around Passaic like a giant letter
'C', with the Passaic River as the eastern border. The southern end has
a growing Orthodox population, the northern end has loads of Arab shops.

On 12/18/2014 10:39 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 7:29 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>> On 12/17/2014 6:38 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>>>>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>>>> I have family in the Pikesville area of Baltimore that will beg to
>>>>>> differ with you. They are strictly Kosher in and out of their
>>>>>> homes.
>>>>> And the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, and lots of other places,
>>>>> too.
>>>> Passaic county in NJ.
>>>
>>> I know there's more than one large orthodox community closer to the
>>> GWB - where in Passaic?
>>>
>> Passaic Park and neighbouring parts of Clifton.
>
> I had no idea. Clifton is where I go for good Arab food, e.g., the area
> around Corrado's but, then again, Clifton is pretty big geographically.
>
> -S-
>
>
My mother, of blessed memory, lived in Paterson, NJ in the later years
of her life. She loved Corrado's. Whenever a grandchild would come to
visit "Bubby" they would have to drive her to shop at Corrado's. She
was about 4'8" tall and would whiz through the aisles behind her
shopping cart. The grandkids could never find her. She'd be lost
between the aisles of vegetables and fruit.

They hung out by the cash registers figuring Bubby would show up there
eventually. What a great store that was! Shopping there was like
shopping at the United Nations.

My son was here Thanksgiving and was recalling those trips with Bubby to
Corrado's and moaning about them.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

Janet Wilder wrote:

> My mother, of blessed memory, lived in Paterson, NJ in the later years
> of her life. She loved Corrado's. Whenever a grandchild would come
> to visit "Bubby" they would have to drive her to shop at Corrado's.
> She was about 4'8" tall and would whiz through the aisles behind her
> shopping cart. The grandkids could never find her. She'd be lost
> between the aisles of vegetables and fruit.
>
> They hung out by the cash registers figuring Bubby would show up there
> eventually. What a great store that was! Shopping there was like
> shopping at the United Nations.

I'm trying to think of how to describe Corrado's - I guess Costco meets
Zabar's might get close.

-S-

On 12/18/2014 10:03 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> My mother, of blessed memory, lived in Paterson, NJ in the later years
>> of her life. She loved Corrado's. Whenever a grandchild would come
>> to visit "Bubby" they would have to drive her to shop at Corrado's.
>> She was about 4'8" tall and would whiz through the aisles behind her
>> shopping cart. The grandkids could never find her. She'd be lost
>> between the aisles of vegetables and fruit.
>>
>> They hung out by the cash registers figuring Bubby would show up there
>> eventually. What a great store that was! Shopping there was like
>> shopping at the United Nations.
>
> I'm trying to think of how to describe Corrado's - I guess Costco meets
> Zabar's might get close.
>

On 12/19/2014 7:40 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 12/18/2014 10:03 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> My mother, of blessed memory, lived in Paterson, NJ in the later years
>>> of her life. She loved Corrado's. Whenever a grandchild would come
>>> to visit "Bubby" they would have to drive her to shop at Corrado's.
>>> She was about 4'8" tall and would whiz through the aisles behind her
>>> shopping cart. The grandkids could never find her. She'd be lost
>>> between the aisles of vegetables and fruit.
>>>
>>> They hung out by the cash registers figuring Bubby would show up there
>>> eventually. What a great store that was! Shopping there was like
>>> shopping at the United Nations.
>>
>> I'm trying to think of how to describe Corrado's - I guess Costco meets
>> Zabar's might get close.
>>
>
>
:-) :-)

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:05:53 PM UTC-6, Kalmia wrote:
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:
>
> >
> > The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park Mall
> > (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I don't
> > think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, and
> > most of what we had we more than just satisfactory, it was really good.
> >
>
> Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches 1500 calories.

I liked "A" under "For the Dieter".....A can of tuna with some lettuce, tomato, egg, and cottage cheese for 20 bucks. Who would order something like that?

On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:02:12 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:05:53 PM UTC-6, Kalmia wrote:
> > On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park Mall
> > > (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I don't
> > > think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, and
> > > most of what we had we more than just satisfactory, it was really good.
> > >
> >
> > Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches 1500 calories.
>
> I liked "A" under "For the Dieter".....A can of tuna with some lettuce, tomato, egg, and cottage cheese for 20 bucks. Who would order something like that?

Somebody who's been in a state of cryogenic preservation since 1967.