I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
brethren?

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
> brethren?
>
> nb

When I made fruitcakes, my recipe made so many that I baked them in anything
I could find. Sometimes even in old, washed out cans. My recipe called for
the cakes to be baked for a very long time at a low temp. so it was pretty
hard to overbake them. Plus I have sort of a knack of knowing when food is
done by the way that it smells.

Still though, I would do my best attempt to determine when the cakes might
be done and set the timer for 10 minutes before then just to make sure. And
from there I would just check them often and pull them out when done.

But one thing to keep in mind is that foil pans are thin. So put them on a
cookie sheet and you may need to line your pans with parchment paper. I
would probably use a double thickness for a foil pan.

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:53:52 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>
> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> damn pricey.
>
> nb
>
>
Tube pans are pricey???

On 12/16/2014 11:57 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:53:52 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey.
>>
>> nb
>>
>>
> Tube pans are pricey???
>
You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
sells cookware.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/16/2014 11:57 PM, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:53:52 PM UTC-6, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>>> damn pricey.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>>>
>> Tube pans are pricey???
>>
> You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
> sells cookware.

I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
> > sells cookware.
>
> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!

A bundt pan is not a tube pan. A tube pan
is made out of sheet metal, usually uncoated.
A bundt pan is a heavy cast pan, usually
with a non-stick coating (and the cake
usually sticks anyway).

On 12/17/2014 9:00 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
>>> sells cookware.
>>
>> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!
>
We can't help it if you pay too much money for things. Please feel free
to lash back saying you can spend your money any way you wish. Just
don't bitch about the price simply because you don't know how to find an
inexpensive piece of cookware.

> A bundt pan is not a tube pan. A tube pan
> is made out of sheet metal, usually uncoated.
> A bundt pan is a heavy cast pan, usually
> with a non-stick coating (and the cake
> usually sticks anyway).
>
I have a "non-stick" bundt pan like that, Mark. I really should add
it to the stack of items I'm donating. It's only been used a couple of
times and likely never again.

Jill

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> > You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
>> > sells cookware.
>>
>> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!
>
> A bundt pan is not a tube pan. A tube pan
> is made out of sheet metal, usually uncoated.
> A bundt pan is a heavy cast pan, usually
> with a non-stick coating (and the cake
> usually sticks anyway).

I know. I never shopped for a tube pan so don't know how much they cost.

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:25:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> > You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
> > sells cookware.
>
> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!
>
>
A bundt pan is not the same thing as a tube pan even though both have the center tube.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:25:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> > You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
>> > sells cookware.
>>
>> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!
>>
>>
> A bundt pan is not the same thing as a tube pan even though both have the
> center tube.

I know but I am looking at both at Amazon as I type this and they sell for
the same prices.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:33:09 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:25:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> > You can pick up some pretty cheap tube pans at any big box store that
>> > sells cookware.
>>
>> I don't know about that. I bought a Bundt pan once and it wasn't cheap!
>>
>>
>A bundt pan is not the same thing as a tube pan even though both have the center tube.

One can find very inexpensive Bundt-style pans too, less than $10.
"Bundt" is a registered trademark, owned by Nordicware, they designed
the first Bundt pan... only Nordicware makes a correctly configured
Bundt pan, all others are poor copys... unless yours is Nordicware you
don't have a Bundt pan and you cannot bake a Bundt cake.

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
> brethren?
>
> nb

I have a tube pan I haven't used in years. Thanks for reminding me to donate it.

Meanwhile, cantcha just use the ol toothpick method for doneness?

As to disposables, think upon the enviro impact.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:34:14 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>>
>> nb
>
>I have a tube pan I haven't used in years. Thanks for reminding me to donate it.
>Meanwhile, cantcha just use the ol toothpick method for doneness?
>As to disposables, think upon the enviro impact.

Can actually make ones own for the price of one pop-rivet, from one
large and one small coffee can.

On 12/17/2014 1:32 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:34:14 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>>> brethren?
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> I have a tube pan I haven't used in years. Thanks for reminding me to donate it.
>
> Can actually make ones own for the price of one pop-rivet, from one
> large and one small coffee can.
>
Yeah... we're all going to do that.

Jill

On 12/17/2014 9:34 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:53:52 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>>
>> nb
>
> I have a tube pan I haven't used in years. Thanks for reminding me to donate it.
>
> Meanwhile, cantcha just use the ol toothpick method for doneness?
>
Um, he wasn't asking about how to test for doneness. I was under the
impression he wants to buy inexpensive (not disposable) loaf pans and
was asking for recommendations.

Jill

On 12/16/2014 10:53 PM, notbob wrote:
> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
> brethren?
>
> nb
>
Where are you looking for these tube pans? I realize you're in a tad
rural area (as am I). But surely there's a big box store somewhere
nearby that sells them at a reasonable price. The same should hold true
for finding perfectly functional inexpensive loaf pans. Or you could
look around online. You don't have to shop at Williams Sonoma to find
them.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/16/2014 10:53 PM, notbob wrote:
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>>
>> nb
>>
> Where are you looking for these tube pans? I realize you're in a tad
> rural area (as am I). But surely there's a big box store somewhere nearby
> that sells them at a reasonable price. The same should hold true for
> finding perfectly functional inexpensive loaf pans. Or you could look
> around online. You don't have to shop at Williams Sonoma to find them.
>
> Jill

I am looking at Amazon where according to the search terms a Bundt pan is in
fact a tube pan. These prices don't look cheap to me. Cheap to me is $3
for a pan. These are nowhere close.

"Julie Bove" wrote:
>
>I am looking at Amazon where according to the search terms a Bundt pan is in
>fact a tube pan.

You're obiously a net shopping newbie... when searching on the net for
"tube pan" ALL pans with a tube will come up including anything
remotely related (perhaps an inner tube, tube socks, even books about
tubing), you were obviously never in retail or you'd know that's
marketing.

>These prices don't look cheap to me. Cheap to me is $3
>for a pan. These are nowhere close.

I was in town this morning to get my mail so since I pass the thrift
shop I stopped in... they had four different tube pans, $1 per, all
very serviceable. I bought two very nice crib blankies for my outside
cats, 50¢ each, they're in the washing machine now. Thrift shops are
a great resource, especially for housewares.

On 12/18/2014 1:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>> I am looking at Amazon where according to the search terms a Bundt pan is in
>> fact a tube pan.
>
> You're obiously a net shopping newbie... when searching on the net for
> "tube pan" ALL pans with a tube will come up including anything
> remotely related (perhaps an inner tube, tube socks, even books about
> tubing), you were obviously never in retail or you'd know that's
> marketing.
>
Sheldon, she says she worked at KMart. This was probably before the
advent of online shopping and certainly before Amazon anything.

Anyone who does a computer search for anything should know all sorts of
unrelated crap comes up. You have to filter your query to weed out the
garbage. As you say, it's advertising.

Looking at images does show bundt as well as tube pans. But even I, who
doesn't bake cakes, know they aren't the same thing. Someone else
described a tube pan as the pan made for angel food cake. That's
exactly right and it sure isn't a bundt pan.

>> These prices don't look cheap to me. Cheap to me is $3
>> for a pan. These are nowhere close.
>
> I was in town this morning to get my mail so since I pass the thrift
> shop I stopped in... they had four different tube pans, $1 per, all
> very serviceable. I bought two very nice crib blankies for my outside
> cats, 50¢ each, they're in the washing machine now. Thrift shops are
> a great resource, especially for housewares.
>
Yep, thrift shops would be a good place to look. Even in my small area
there's a Goodwill store and a Salvation Army shop. There are probably
some smaller thrifts scattered around, too.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/18/2014 1:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking at Amazon where according to the search terms a Bundt pan
>>> is in
>>> fact a tube pan.
>>
>> You're obiously a net shopping newbie... when searching on the net for
>> "tube pan" ALL pans with a tube will come up including anything
>> remotely related (perhaps an inner tube, tube socks, even books about
>> tubing), you were obviously never in retail or you'd know that's
>> marketing.
>>
> Sheldon, she says she worked at KMart. This was probably before the
> advent of online shopping and certainly before Amazon anything.

I retired from there in the 90's. We did sell pans but not much in the way
of specialty things. I bought my baking things elsewhere.
>
> Anyone who does a computer search for anything should know all sorts of
> unrelated crap comes up. You have to filter your query to weed out the
> garbage. As you say, it's advertising.
>
> Looking at images does show bundt as well as tube pans. But even I, who
> doesn't bake cakes, know they aren't the same thing. Someone else
> described a tube pan as the pan made for angel food cake. That's exactly
> right and it sure isn't a bundt pan.

Here's a link for ya:

http://community.cookinglight.com/sh...t-s-a-tube-pan

As you can see, both things are in fact tube pans. Tube meaning that they
have a hole in the middle, hence the tube. Some of the bakers there even
say that they have made tube cake recipes in a Bundt cake pan.

And since you are so keen on remembering my words, you will remember that I
did not in fact say that a Bundt and tube cake pan were the same, only that
at Amazon they were about the same price and that wasn't in my opinion,
cheap! I don't know if you can get a cheap tube pan. I hate Angel Food
cake, would never make one and would never buy a pan for one.
>
>>> These prices don't look cheap to me. Cheap to me is $3
>>> for a pan. These are nowhere close.
>>
>> I was in town this morning to get my mail so since I pass the thrift
>> shop I stopped in... they had four different tube pans, $1 per, all
>> very serviceable. I bought two very nice crib blankies for my outside
>> cats, 50¢ each, they're in the washing machine now. Thrift shops are
>> a great resource, especially for housewares.
>>
> Yep, thrift shops would be a good place to look. Even in my small area
> there's a Goodwill store and a Salvation Army shop. There are probably
> some smaller thrifts scattered around, too.

That could be. Here, the only Thrift Shop I ever go to is Value Village.
They seem to have mainly clothing and not much at all in the way of kitchen
stuff. There may well be other Thrift Shops. I just have no need to go
there.

Julie, Amazon can add whatever they want to search engines, but a tube pan has straight sides, not
fluted, and is used for things like Angel Food Cake. A Bundt pan has sloped, fluted sides and is
used for Bundt cakes and coffee cakes and even Monkey Bread. They both have center tubes, but
are NOT the same.

N.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Julie, Amazon can add whatever they want to search engines, but a tube pan
> has straight sides, not
> fluted, and is used for things like Angel Food Cake. A Bundt pan has
> sloped, fluted sides and is
> used for Bundt cakes and coffee cakes and even Monkey Bread. They both
> have center tubes, but
> are NOT the same.
>
> N.

Both *are* tube pans though. And I don't think that my Bundt pan had sloped
sides.

On 2014-12-18, jmcquown > wrote:

> rural area (as am I). But surely there's a big box store somewhere
> nearby that sells them at a reasonable price.

One would think! I've yet to find one under $10 and I need two. Yet,
I can buy 4 tossable bread pans for about $2. My $$$$ spending days
are over and the ingredients cost a lot. Dried sour cherries were $20
lb!

nb

On 12/18/2014 10:35 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-12-18, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> rural area (as am I). But surely there's a big box store somewhere
>> nearby that sells them at a reasonable price.
>
> One would think! I've yet to find one under $10 and I need two. Yet,
> I can buy 4 tossable bread pans for about $2. My $$$$ spending days
> are over and the ingredients cost a lot. Dried sour cherries were $20
> lb!
>
> nb
>
So go for the disposable loaf pans. You don't even know if you're going
to like this fruitcake.

Jill

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:32:29 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 12/18/2014 10:35 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2014-12-18, jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> rural area (as am I). But surely there's a big box store somewhere
> >> nearby that sells them at a reasonable price.
> >
> > One would think! I've yet to find one under $10 and I need two. Yet,
> > I can buy 4 tossable bread pans for about $2. My $$$$ spending days
> > are over and the ingredients cost a lot. Dried sour cherries were $20
> > lb!
> >
> > nb
> >
> So go for the disposable loaf pans. You don't even know if you're going
> to like this fruitcake.
>
Makes them easier to give as gifts too. How much fruitcake is one
person going to eat?


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 17 Dec 2014 03:53:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
> brethren?
>
Have you looked at the supermarket? I saw very thin walled bunt pans
at mine yesterday so maybe yours has them too (probably a Christmas
only item). The shelf sticker was missing, so I can't tell you how
much it cost. Another place to check would be the kitchen section of
your local old fashioned (not big box) hardware store... if you have
one nearby.


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 07:39:27 -0800, sf > wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2014 03:53:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
> > the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
> > damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
> > so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
> > brethren?
> >
> Have you looked at the supermarket? I saw very thin walled bunt pans
> at mine yesterday so maybe yours has them too (probably a Christmas
> only item). The shelf sticker was missing, so I can't tell you how
> much it cost. Another place to check would be the kitchen section of
> your local old fashioned (not big box) hardware store... if you have
> one nearby.

At a different grocery store today, saw the same one. Rounded to $12.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

Sqwertz wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>
>What's there to NOT know about loaf pans? Other than only fools buy
>the disposable ones.
>
>How many threads are you going to start about this damned fruitcake?
>Just ****ing do it already, will ya?

If he can't afford the pan then he certainly can't afford the
fruitcake ingredients. WTF is so pricey about tube pans anyway, if
you're not real fussy buy used, I see them at yard sales often for a
buck or two... perfectly okay only somene used them once, maybe twice
in twenty years. Used bakeware is common for cheap at thrift stores
too. Even brand spankin' new they are nowhere near "damn pricey":
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...words=tube+pan

"l not -l" > wrote in message news:54917850$0$32992$b1db1813

> I see you have already gotten a number of helpful replies; however, an
> important one (perhaps the most important one) is missing - that will be
> my
> contribution ?-)
>
> You can easily make disposable aluminum loaf pans; I cannot imagine why
> anyone would buy them. They are so easy and much cheaper than that
> pre-fab
> crap sold in stores. Only a slothful person, or mental defective, would
> buy
> that junk instead of making their own. What could be easier than tearing
> off a sheet of aluminum foil, crimping and folding, nipping and tucking?
> Heck, with a sheet metal brake, crimping tool and a sheet of aluminum from
> Home Depot, you can make the best re-usable loaf pan in the universe.
>
> Have a nice day 8-)

LOL

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:27:54 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "l not -l" > wrote in message news:54917850$0$32992$b1db1813
>
> > I see you have already gotten a number of helpful replies; however, an
> > important one (perhaps the most important one) is missing - that will be
> > my
> > contribution ?-)
> >
> > You can easily make disposable aluminum loaf pans; I cannot imagine why
> > anyone would buy them. They are so easy and much cheaper than that
> > pre-fab
> > crap sold in stores. Only a slothful person, or mental defective, would
> > buy
> > that junk instead of making their own. What could be easier than tearing
> > off a sheet of aluminum foil, crimping and folding, nipping and tucking?
> > Heck, with a sheet metal brake, crimping tool and a sheet of aluminum from
> > Home Depot, you can make the best re-usable loaf pan in the universe.
> >
> > Have a nice day 8-)
>
> LOL

I'm sure nb will get right on it - after Home Depot stocks food grade
aluminum. He's handy like that.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:34:14 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 16-Dec-2014, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>>
>> nb
>
>I see you have already gotten a number of helpful replies; however, an
>important one (perhaps the most important one) is missing - that will be my
>contribution ?-)
>
>You can easily make disposable aluminum loaf pans; I cannot imagine why
>anyone would buy them. They are so easy and much cheaper than that pre-fab
>crap sold in stores. Only a slothful person, or mental defective, would buy
>that junk instead of making their own. What could be easier than tearing
>off a sheet of aluminum foil, crimping and folding, nipping and tucking?
>Heck, with a sheet metal brake, crimping tool and a sheet of aluminum from
>Home Depot, you can make the best re-usable loaf pan in the universe.

Even easier, he can use his head as a mold to form the aluminum foil,
and it already has that tube hole where normal folks have a brain.

"l not -l" > wrote in message
web.com...
>
> On 16-Dec-2014, notbob > wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to follow ChrisD's fruitcake recipe. Got everything but
>> the pans. I wanna try her recipe in loaf pans, as "tube pans" are
>> damn pricey. You can get loaf pans in alum disposable for dirt cheap,
>> so I'm looking fer info on loaf pans. What say thee, baking
>> brethren?
>>
>> nb
>
> I see you have already gotten a number of helpful replies; however, an
> important one (perhaps the most important one) is missing - that will be
> my
> contribution ?-)
>
> You can easily make disposable aluminum loaf pans; I cannot imagine why
> anyone would buy them. They are so easy and much cheaper than that
> pre-fab
> crap sold in stores. Only a slothful person, or mental defective, would
> buy
> that junk instead of making their own. What could be easier than tearing
> off a sheet of aluminum foil, crimping and folding, nipping and tucking?
> Heck, with a sheet metal brake, crimping tool and a sheet of aluminum from
> Home Depot, you can make the best re-usable loaf pan in the universe.
>
> Have a nice day 8-)

Foil pans are super cheap at the dollar store.