On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Nellie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>> >> mushroom
>>> >> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left outside
>>> >> all
>>> >> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>> >> 50s.
>>> >>
>>> >> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>>> >> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>> >
>>> >For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green beans
>>> >as
>>> >well.
>>>
>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>
>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>> food to save money
>
>Who does that?

You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
you'd never buy it again.

Doris

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:34:57 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:01:06 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>>>She said overnight. That's usually at least 8 hours and she said it was
>>>>above 50 degrees. If she wants to give someone food poisoning, that's
>>>>her
>>>>business. I grew up being told to fear green beans because of botulism.
>>>
>>> That only applies if you are 'canning' vegetables, i.e., in this case,
>>> green beans. Or, if commercially canned vegetables are in a bulging
>>> or leaking can. Botulism is a result of an anaerobic environment.
>>> Please read
>>> http://pickyourown.org/botulism.htm
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Nope. I did look it up. Can also apply to baked potatoes wrapped in foil
>>if not refrigerated or kept hot. I know a person who bakes them this way
>>then lets them sit on the counter for days. And yes, she is frequently
>>ill.
>>Can also apply to restaurant food kept at an improper temp. And my
>>grandma
>>did serve canned green beans. No frozen veggies in those days because she
>>didn't have a freezer to accommodate such things.
>
> My Dear, were we or were we not discussing green beans???? My
> statement applies to green beans.

Okay. But it can also apply to other things as well.

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:36:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:18:37 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/25/2014 1:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >> On 12/24/2014 11:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >>> She said overnight. That's usually at least 8 hours and she said it
> >> >>> was
> >> >>> above 50 degrees. If she wants to give someone food poisoning,
> >> >>> that's
> >> >>> her business. I grew up being told to fear green beans because of
> >> >>> botulism.
> >> >>
> >> >> Okay, you were fine up to the the point about overnight, 50 degrees.
> >> >> But growing up being told to fear green beans? I find that pretty
> >> >> funny.
> >> >
> >> > Oh it's funny the a woman died? I don't think so. It was on the news.
> >> > My grandma couldn't grasp the fact that they were home canned green
> >> > beans and the woman likely did something wrong when she canned them.
> >> > But they were warning people to make sure to fully heat their cooked
> >> > beans before eating them. So... The only beans we ever got at her
> >> > house were cooked to mush. It wasn't funny and the poor woman was
> >> > terrified that if she didn't do this, we would all die.
> >>
> >> *NOW* you embellish the story. You made no mention of anyone dying, or
> >> that it was from improper home canning of green beans. All you said was
> >> you were *told* to fear green beans. Big difference there.
> >>
> > She always eliminates important details and plays gotcha.
>
> I'm not playing anything and I know I have told this story here before.

I don't remember the story and it's not anything I want to google -
but I will say that your habit of leaving out important details and
slowly bringing them into the thread as it suits you is your
distinguishing trait and that's exactly why you're accused of being a
troll from time to time.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet" > wrote in message
. net...
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Nellie" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> >> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>>> >> mushroom
>>>> >> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left
>>>> >> outside
>>>> >> all
>>>> >> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>>> >> 50s.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>>>> >> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>>> >
>>>> >For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>> >beans
>>>> >as
>>>> >well.
>>>>
>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>
>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>> food to save money
>>
>>Who does that?
>
> You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
> buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
> you'd never buy it again.

That was last year! I only bought it because someone told me that it was
really good meat! I didn't *just* buy it because it was cheap. A person
that I know had told me that it was good meat. Turns out that she hadn't
even eaten the meat and I know much about this person now that I didn't know
then. Like that I need to just let anything she says go in one ear and out
the other or if it applies to another person, ask them for clarification.
She is a very nice person but with a lot of problems that I won't get into
here. And it wasn't just beef. It was beef and pork.

I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I mean,
never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up to your
high standards and all. Except that you all also make exceptions to those
high standards like wearing cheap glasses with screws that get loose.
Whatever...

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:23:37 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> Your daughter should get her tubes tied.

Her daughter is probably a nice girl, but (hey) she's a teenager and
teenagers who have not been properly "tutored" can be rude. Julie
indulges a DD who is emulating the way her father (who seems to be a
huge A-hole) acts. Sure, Julie can drive people to drink (er,
"distraction") - but she'd be a welfare recipient if he wasn't paying
her way. So, what do you want? Do you want her to be mentally abused
by that man or do you want to pay more taxes to take better care of
her (and women who are like her), assuming they are willing to leave?


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:36:33 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 09:18:37 -0500, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 12/25/2014 1:43 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> On 12/24/2014 11:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >>> She said overnight. That's usually at least 8 hours and she said
>> >> >>> it
>> >> >>> was
>> >> >>> above 50 degrees. If she wants to give someone food poisoning,
>> >> >>> that's
>> >> >>> her business. I grew up being told to fear green beans because of
>> >> >>> botulism.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Okay, you were fine up to the the point about overnight, 50
>> >> >> degrees.
>> >> >> But growing up being told to fear green beans? I find that pretty
>> >> >> funny.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh it's funny the a woman died? I don't think so. It was on the
>> >> > news.
>> >> > My grandma couldn't grasp the fact that they were home canned green
>> >> > beans and the woman likely did something wrong when she canned them.
>> >> > But they were warning people to make sure to fully heat their cooked
>> >> > beans before eating them. So... The only beans we ever got at her
>> >> > house were cooked to mush. It wasn't funny and the poor woman was
>> >> > terrified that if she didn't do this, we would all die.
>> >>
>> >> *NOW* you embellish the story. You made no mention of anyone dying,
>> >> or
>> >> that it was from improper home canning of green beans. All you said
>> >> was
>> >> you were *told* to fear green beans. Big difference there.
>> >>
>> > She always eliminates important details and plays gotcha.
>>
>> I'm not playing anything and I know I have told this story here before.
>
> I don't remember the story and it's not anything I want to google -
> but I will say that your habit of leaving out important details and
> slowly bringing them into the thread as it suits you is your
> distinguishing trait and that's exactly why you're accused of being a
> troll from time to time.

I asked about it a long time ago and had asked for how to make good green
beans with bacon. That is how my grandma made them and although her beans
were mushy, the taste was wonderful and they were not greasy. I did get
responses and I did try things but have given up on that. I just never care
for the end results of what I get. Either too greasy or the bacon taste
doesn't spread throughout.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:23:37 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
>> Your daughter should get her tubes tied.
>
> Her daughter is probably a nice girl, but (hey) she's a teenager and
> teenagers who have not been properly "tutored" can be rude. Julie
> indulges a DD who is emulating the way her father (who seems to be a
> huge A-hole) acts. Sure, Julie can drive people to drink (er,
> "distraction") - but she'd be a welfare recipient if he wasn't paying
> her way. So, what do you want? Do you want her to be mentally abused
> by that man or do you want to pay more taxes to take better care of
> her (and women who are like her), assuming they are willing to leave?

What? I'd be a Welfare recipient? Well that's a new low. How do you
figure that?

I'd make the popcorn while I wait but I'm not eating corn right now. Anyone
for some popping sorghum? I make it with coconut oil and sea salt.

And my daughter is not rude.

On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:12:24 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:23:37 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Your daughter should get her tubes tied.
> >
> > Her daughter is probably a nice girl, but (hey) she's a teenager and
> > teenagers who have not been properly "tutored" can be rude. Julie
> > indulges a DD who is emulating the way her father (who seems to be a
> > huge A-hole) acts. Sure, Julie can drive people to drink (er,
> > "distraction") - but she'd be a welfare recipient if he wasn't paying
> > her way. So, what do you want? Do you want her to be mentally abused
> > by that man or do you want to pay more taxes to take better care of
> > her (and women who are like her), assuming they are willing to leave?
>
> What? I'd be a Welfare recipient? Well that's a new low. How do you
> figure that?

Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while collecting disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, December 26, 2014 1:12:24 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 14:23:37 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Your daughter should get her tubes tied.
>> >
>> > Her daughter is probably a nice girl, but (hey) she's a teenager and
>> > teenagers who have not been properly "tutored" can be rude. Julie
>> > indulges a DD who is emulating the way her father (who seems to be a
>> > huge A-hole) acts. Sure, Julie can drive people to drink (er,
>> > "distraction") - but she'd be a welfare recipient if he wasn't paying
>> > her way. So, what do you want? Do you want her to be mentally abused
>> > by that man or do you want to pay more taxes to take better care of
>> > her (and women who are like her), assuming they are willing to leave?
>>
>> What? I'd be a Welfare recipient? Well that's a new low. How do you
>> figure that?
>
> Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while collecting
> disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.

Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass isn't
fat.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while collecting
> > disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.
>
> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass isn't
> fat.

Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
and unemployment too.

In your case though, it sounds like you deserve it and I have no
problem with that. That's what it was set up for. Many people though
are scamming the system and receiving it when they shouldn't. Any
time free money is offered, the lazy ass scammers will show up and
abuse the system. Unemployment payouts is another one that is highly
abused by the lazy turds of society.

I've had several people ask me for a job and they are fully
functional, but when offered some work they demand being paid in cash
so they don't lose their disability checks. Needless to say, we don't
hire those jackasses!

G.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...

>
> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up to
> your high standards and all. Except that you all also make exceptions to
> those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with screws that get
> loose. Whatever...

You might do well to remember these "high standards" when you question
someone elses intelligence while remarking that you would have thought they
were a troll because of the stupid question they asked. Walk a mile etc.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while
>> > collecting
>> > disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.
>>
>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass
>> isn't
>> fat.
>
> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
> and unemployment too.

There is SSI and SSDI. From what I have read they are two different things.
And if it is truly welfare then my husband gets it too because he too gets
disability.
>
> In your case though, it sounds like you deserve it and I have no
> problem with that. That's what it was set up for. Many people though
> are scamming the system and receiving it when they shouldn't. Any
> time free money is offered, the lazy ass scammers will show up and
> abuse the system. Unemployment payouts is another one that is highly
> abused by the lazy turds of society.

I have never taken unemployment. I did try once when I was laid off but I
was about 2 hours short to be able to get it.
>
> I've had several people ask me for a job and they are fully
> functional, but when offered some work they demand being paid in cash
> so they don't lose their disability checks. Needless to say, we don't
> hire those jackasses!

Yes.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
>> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up to
>> your high standards and all. Except that you all also make exceptions to
>> those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with screws that get
>> loose. Whatever...
>
> You might do well to remember these "high standards" when you question
> someone elses intelligence while remarking that you would have thought
> they were a troll because of the stupid question they asked. Walk a mile
> etc.

That one did take the cake though. A clear violation of safety standards
and she was nothing but insulting to me from her first reply to me back when
she used another name. Ah, karma!

On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> I've had several people ask me for a job and they are fully
> functional, but when offered some work they demand being paid in cash
> so they don't lose their disability checks. Needless to say, we don't
> hire those jackasses!
>
> G.

Actually, they could still receive SSDI especially if it's temporary or
seasonal work:

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/multim...its/index.html

Jill

On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote:
>>> Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while collecting
>>> disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.
>>
>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass isn't
>> fat.
>
> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
> and unemployment too.
>
Hence the word "social" in Social Security Disability.

Jill

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:17:42 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
>says...
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >"Nellie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>> >>
>> >> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of mushroom
>> >> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left outside all
>> >> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high 50s.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>> >> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>> >
>> >For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green beans as
>> >well.
>>
>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>
> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>food to save money

Yes, a frequent occurrence.

On 12/26/2014 1:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> t...
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >"Nellie" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> >> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>>>> >> mushroom
>>>>> >> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left
>>>>> >> outside
>>>>> >> all
>>>>> >> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>>>> >> 50s.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>>>>> >> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>>> >beans
>>>>> >as
>>>>> >well.
>>>>>
>>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>>
>>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>>> food to save money
>>>
>>> Who does that?
>>
>> You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
>> buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
>> you'd never buy it again.
>
> That was last year! I only bought it because someone told me that it
> was really good meat! I didn't *just* buy it because it was cheap. A
> person that I know had told me that it was good meat. Turns out that
> she hadn't even eaten the meat and I know much about this person now
> that I didn't know then. Like that I need to just let anything she says
> go in one ear and out the other or if it applies to another person, ask
> them for clarification. She is a very nice person but with a lot of
> problems that I won't get into here. And it wasn't just beef. It was
> beef and pork.
>
So, some person you don't know all that well tells you how great the
beef and pork is and you buy it. You sure the price wasn't a factor?
What's the missing bit of information? Was the meat frozen? Was it a
box of pre-packaged meats?

> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up
> to your high standards and all. Except that you all also make
> exceptions to those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with
> screws that get loose. Whatever...
>
Whatever is right. If it makes you feel better to comment on cheap
glasses for a while, go for it. You're the one who said you had screws
popping out and had to carry a little kit. I never had that problem,
not even when I chose from the less expensive frames at the place in
Memphis that sold 2 pair for $99. They had a good selection of nice
sturdy frames. Yours practically falling apart were the cheap ones.

Jill

On 12/26/2014 3:49 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:17:42 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>>> For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green beans as
>>>> well.
>>>
>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>
>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>> food to save money
>
> Yes, a frequent occurrence.
>
No no no! Don't you realize she bought cheap meat because someone told
her it was good? (Someone of now questionable character, of course.)

Jill

jmcquown > wrote:
> On 12/26/2014 1:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> t...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Nellie" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>>>>>>> mushroom
>>>>>>>> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left
>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>>>>>>> 50s.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>>>>>>>> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>>>>> beans
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>>>> food to save money
>>>>
>>>> Who does that?
>>>
>>> You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
>>> buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
>>> you'd never buy it again.
>>
>> That was last year! I only bought it because someone told me that it
>> was really good meat! I didn't *just* buy it because it was cheap. A
>> person that I know had told me that it was good meat. Turns out that
>> she hadn't even eaten the meat and I know much about this person now
>> that I didn't know then. Like that I need to just let anything she says
>> go in one ear and out the other or if it applies to another person, ask
>> them for clarification. She is a very nice person but with a lot of
>> problems that I won't get into here. And it wasn't just beef. It was
>> beef and pork.
>>
> So, some person you don't know all that well tells you how great the beef
> and pork is and you buy it. You sure the price wasn't a factor? What's
> the missing bit of information? Was the meat frozen? Was it a box of pre-packaged meats?
>
>> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
>> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up
>> to your high standards and all. Except that you all also make
>> exceptions to those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with
>> screws that get loose. Whatever...
>>
> Whatever is right. If it makes you feel better to comment on cheap
> glasses for a while, go for it. You're the one who said you had screws
> popping out and had to carry a little kit. I never had that problem, not
> even when I chose from the less expensive frames at the place in Memphis
> that sold 2 pair for $99. They had a good selection of nice sturdy
> frames. Yours practically falling apart were the cheap ones.
>
> Jill

Even frames from the chic boutiques in town carrying one-of-a-kind and
exclusive lines have screws that come out sometimes. How do I know? The
very thing happened just last week to my husband's nearly $1000 eyeglasses.

--
jinx the minx

On 12/26/2014 6:32 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> > wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Even frames from the chic boutiques in town carrying one-of-a-kind and
>> exclusive lines have screws that come out sometimes. How do I know? The
>> very thing happened just last week to my husband's nearly $1000 eyeglasses.
>>
> Back when I wore contacts and had to have backup eyeglasses, I used to
> put clear nail polish over the screws, that way they never came out
> and you couldn't see anything had been done.
>
Now that's a nifty idea.

Jill

Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare
>>
>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>> and unemployment too.

Actually SSDI is no more welfare than unemployment insurance... if a
person worked and contributed to SSDI it's exactly the same as any
insurance where one pays premiums. The fact that the grubberment is
hijacking the SSA bank to give benefits to non workers/non
contributors makes those programs theft, not welfare. When I retired
I began to receive a SS check, the amount based on my contributions...
given a choice I would have much rather the Grubberment not deduct
premiums, I'd have a lot more income had I invested all that money
myself. The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
do absolutely nothing but party on my dime

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>> I've had several people ask me for a job and they are fully
>> functional, but when offered some work they demand being paid in cash
>> so they don't lose their disability checks. Needless to say, we don't
>> hire those jackasses!
>>
>> G.
>
> Actually, they could still receive SSDI especially if it's temporary or
> seasonal work:
>
> http://www.socialsecurity.gov/multim...its/index.html

Not if they earn too much money. And it would also depend on what they are
doing. Since Gary is a painter, I would assume that it is physical work
being done. If they are physically disabled then they likely couldn't do
such work. If they could, they wouldn't be disabled. I do realize that not
all disability is physical in nature.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while
>>>> collecting
>>>> disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.
>>>
>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass
>>> isn't
>>> fat.
>>
>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>> and unemployment too.
>>
> Hence the word "social" in Social Security Disability.

So are you saying that all senior citizens are on Welfare as well?

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare
>>>
>>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>>> and unemployment too.
>
> Actually SSDI is no more welfare than unemployment insurance... if a
> person worked and contributed to SSDI it's exactly the same as any
> insurance where one pays premiums. The fact that the grubberment is
> hijacking the SSA bank to give benefits to non workers/non
> contributors makes those programs theft, not welfare. When I retired
> I began to receive a SS check, the amount based on my contributions...
> given a choice I would have much rather the Grubberment not deduct
> premiums, I'd have a lot more income had I invested all that money
> myself. The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
> those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
> do absolutely nothing but party on my dime

And I have paid in. Those that haven't paid in get SSI. It is a much
lesser amount and from the cases I have seen, much harder to get.

jinx the minx wrote:

>jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 12/26/2014 1:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>>> t...
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Nellie" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise counsel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>>>>>>>> mushroom
>>>>>>>>> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left
>>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>>>>>>>> 50s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it? I'm
>>>>>>>>> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>>>>>> beans
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>>>>> food to save money
>>>>>
>>>>> Who does that?
>>>>
>>>> You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
>>>> buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
>>>> you'd never buy it again.
>>>
>>> That was last year! I only bought it because someone told me that it
>>> was really good meat! I didn't *just* buy it because it was cheap. A
>>> person that I know had told me that it was good meat. Turns out that
>>> she hadn't even eaten the meat and I know much about this person now
>>> that I didn't know then. Like that I need to just let anything she says
>>> go in one ear and out the other or if it applies to another person, ask
>>> them for clarification. She is a very nice person but with a lot of
>>> problems that I won't get into here. And it wasn't just beef. It was
>>> beef and pork.
>>>
>> So, some person you don't know all that well tells you how great the beef
>> and pork is and you buy it. You sure the price wasn't a factor? What's
>> the missing bit of information? Was the meat frozen? Was it a box of pre-packaged meats?
>>
>>> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
>>> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up
>>> to your high standards and all. Except that you all also make
>>> exceptions to those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with
>>> screws that get loose. Whatever...
>>>
>> Whatever is right. If it makes you feel better to comment on cheap
>> glasses for a while, go for it. You're the one who said you had screws
>> popping out and had to carry a little kit. I never had that problem, not
>> even when I chose from the less expensive frames at the place in Memphis
>> that sold 2 pair for $99. They had a good selection of nice sturdy
>> frames. Yours practically falling apart were the cheap ones.
>
>Even frames from the chic boutiques in town carrying one-of-a-kind and
>exclusive lines have screws that come out sometimes. How do I know? The
>very thing happened just last week to my husband's nearly $1000 eyeglasses.

I've been using Flexon frames for nigh on 20 years now, I'm on my
third... they're not super expensive (no precious gems) but they ain't
cheap either, last ones ran $300, $600 with the new lenses... these
frames have a memory, says you can tie a knot in them and they go
right back into shape... I've never actually tried. I've never had a
screw fall out but they do occasionally loosen, all I need do is bring
them into the eyeglass place in town and have them tightened and they
adjust the fit too, also they replace the soft nose pieces as over
time they harden... never a charge. I probably would have never
needed new frames but I never take them off other than to wash, I
sleep with them. I only needed the frames replaced because at night
Jilly lifted them off my face and chomped them.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 1:55 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:41:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> t...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:11:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >"Nellie" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> >> Hey, I haven't been here in ages, but now I need your wise
>>>>>> >> counsel.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Yesterday I made a green bean casserole with my homemade cream of
>>>>>> >> mushroom
>>>>>> >> soup. I made the soup using soy milk. It accidentally got left
>>>>>> >> outside
>>>>>> >> all
>>>>>> >> night. I live in the SFBA and the nighttime temps were in the high
>>>>>> >> 50s.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> What do you think? Does soy milk go bad? Would you serve it?
>>>>>> >> I'm
>>>>>> >> leaning against, but could use your thoughts as well.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>>>> >beans
>>>>>> >as
>>>>>> >well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>>>> food to save money
>>>>
>>>> Who does that?
>>>
>>> You do. I read just today or yesterday where you were talking about
>>> buying beef on some "buy one get two" deal, and how bad it was, and
>>> you'd never buy it again.
>>
>> That was last year! I only bought it because someone told me that it
>> was really good meat! I didn't *just* buy it because it was cheap. A
>> person that I know had told me that it was good meat. Turns out that
>> she hadn't even eaten the meat and I know much about this person now
>> that I didn't know then. Like that I need to just let anything she says
>> go in one ear and out the other or if it applies to another person, ask
>> them for clarification. She is a very nice person but with a lot of
>> problems that I won't get into here. And it wasn't just beef. It was
>> beef and pork.
>>
> So, some person you don't know all that well tells you how great the beef
> and pork is and you buy it. You sure the price wasn't a factor? What's
> the missing bit of information? Was the meat frozen? Was it a box of
> pre-packaged meats?
>
No. I know this person quite well. I will not say who this person is. I
will also not give the reason for this person's disordered thinking. I did
know there were problems. I just did not know the extent of them and that's
all I will say on that. The meat was and still is on sale at Albertsons.
If you want to call it that. Seems to be the same price each week. B1G2F.

Another person that I know well but shall also go unnamed had mentioned the
meat sale to me and acted like it was some sort of super secret thing that I
could not take advantage of. I reminded this person that she never bought
meat at that store because the meat was bad. However... The ownership of
Albertsons has passed back and forth many times since then and I assumed
that perhaps things had changed. This person claimed that the other person
said the meat was good. I then checked with the other person and was told
that not only was it good but that she had given some to the place where my
dad was staying. Only after my dad complained about this horrible meat did
I realize that my husband's complaints must be true.

I really won't go into any more detail than that. Except to say that it was
fresh meat. The beef was some kind of steak. I didn't have to buy a ton of
that as I got it from behind the butcher case. So only three steaks. They
didn't have enough of the pork chops so I bought pork loin. It came in
large packages and since I had to buy so much at once, I froze the extra. I
figured I could just use this like I do chicken breasts and pull it out as
needed to use. I didn't try to eat it as I don't like pork and I don't
think (but I could be wrong) that Angela tried it either as she doesn't like
pork.

Bottom line, their meat just isn't good. I might be a branded ground beef
like Laura's or chicken like Foster Farms but in general I just do not buy
meat there. I only did that one time as I had been assured that it was good
meat.

Everyone makes mistakes. Of that I am pretty sure. I just can't understand
why when I make a mistake, people here keep dredging it up years after it
happened. And act like I keep making that same mistake over and over again.

>> I really do think that it must suck to be a lot of you here though. I
>> mean, never making mistakes and all. Would be kind of hard to live up
>> to your high standards and all. Except that you all also make
>> exceptions to those high standards like wearing cheap glasses with
>> screws that get loose. Whatever...
>>
> Whatever is right. If it makes you feel better to comment on cheap
> glasses for a while, go for it. You're the one who said you had screws
> popping out and had to carry a little kit. I never had that problem, not
> even when I chose from the less expensive frames at the place in Memphis
> that sold 2 pair for $99. They had a good selection of nice sturdy
> frames. Yours practically falling apart were the cheap ones.

That was one pair of glasses I bought and it was years ago. I have never
had any other glasses where I needed to do that. And you're the one who
said that screws loosen about monthly. They don't if you have good ones. Oh
but here's a thought! The person that recommended that glasses place to me
is the same person who told me that the meat was good. I will also add that
not everything this person says is bad or wrong but... I will take
everything that this person says with a big grain of salt and check
elsewhere before believing what is said.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 6:32 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Even frames from the chic boutiques in town carrying one-of-a-kind and
>>> exclusive lines have screws that come out sometimes. How do I know?
>>> The
>>> very thing happened just last week to my husband's nearly $1000
>>> eyeglasses.
>>>
>> Back when I wore contacts and had to have backup eyeglasses, I used to
>> put clear nail polish over the screws, that way they never came out
>> and you couldn't see anything had been done.
>>
> Now that's a nifty idea.

I tried that. Also tried Super Glue. Neither thing worked.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 3:49 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 21:17:42 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> For sure I would toss it. Not only does soy milk go bad but green
>>>>> beans as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> It disgusts me how much food you throw out. Youre always throwing
>>>> something out for the dumbest reasons.
>>>
>>> Usually in the same breath as bleating how she buys cheap/reduced/crap
>>> food to save money
>>
>> Yes, a frequent occurrence.
>>
> No no no! Don't you realize she bought cheap meat because someone told
> her it was good? (Someone of now questionable character, of course.)

I never said this person has questionable character!

On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 16:45:43 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 12/26/2014 6:32 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 21:55:26 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even frames from the chic boutiques in town carrying one-of-a-kind and
>>>> exclusive lines have screws that come out sometimes. How do I know?
>>>> The
>>>> very thing happened just last week to my husband's nearly $1000
>>>> eyeglasses.
>>>>
>>> Back when I wore contacts and had to have backup eyeglasses, I used to
>>> put clear nail polish over the screws, that way they never came out
>>> and you couldn't see anything had been done.
>>>
>> Now that's a nifty idea.
>
>I tried that. Also tried Super Glue. Neither thing worked.

Nothing ever works for you, Julie.

Doris

On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:36:57 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:


snip
>
>I've been using Flexon frames for nigh on 20 years now, I'm on my
>third... they're not super expensive (no precious gems) but they ain't
>cheap either, last ones ran $300, $600 with the new lenses... these
>frames have a memory, says you can tie a knot in them and they go
>right back into shape... I've never actually tried. I've never had a
>screw fall out but they do occasionally loosen, all I need do is bring
>them into the eyeglass place in town and have them tightened and they
>adjust the fit too, also they replace the soft nose pieces as over
>time they harden... never a charge. I probably would have never
>needed new frames but I never take them off other than to wash, I
>sleep with them. I only needed the frames replaced because at night
>Jilly lifted them off my face and chomped them.

those are the frames that I have been using for probably that long.
Janet US

On 12/26/2014 3:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass
> isn't fat.

Please post a photo of it so we can judge for ourselves.

On 12/26/2014 6:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare
>>>
>>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>>> and unemployment too.
>
> Actually SSDI is no more welfare than unemployment insurance... if a
> person worked and contributed to SSDI it's exactly the same as any
> insurance where one pays premiums. The fact that the grubberment is
> hijacking the SSA bank to give benefits to non workers/non
> contributors makes those programs theft, not welfare. When I retired
> I began to receive a SS check, the amount based on my contributions...
> given a choice I would have much rather the Grubberment not deduct
> premiums, I'd have a lot more income had I invested all that money
> myself. The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
> those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
> do absolutely nothing but party on my dime
>

Excellent rant! I agree.

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 12/26/2014 6:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/26/2014 9:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> Um, yeah. Sitting on your fat ass guzzling soda all day while
>>>>> collecting
>>>>> disability checks is welfare. Welcome to reality, Toots.
>>>>
>>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my
>>>> ass isn't
>>>> fat.
>>>
>>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>>> and unemployment too.
>>>
>> Hence the word "social" in Social Security Disability.
>
> So are you saying that all senior citizens are on Welfare as well?

I paid into that fund as did my employers. I'm not on anyone's welfare!

--
From somewhere very deep in the heart of Texas

On 12/26/2014 11:09 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

>> So are you saying that all senior citizens are on Welfare as well?
>
> I paid into that fund as did my employers. I'm not on anyone's welfare!
>

Absolutely. I've been putting in for about 55 years (still am) so I have
no guilt about taking it out.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 12/26/2014 6:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare
>>>>
>>>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>>>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>>>> and unemployment too.
>>
>> Actually SSDI is no more welfare than unemployment insurance... if a
>> person worked and contributed to SSDI it's exactly the same as any
>> insurance where one pays premiums. The fact that the grubberment is
>> hijacking the SSA bank to give benefits to non workers/non
>> contributors makes those programs theft, not welfare. When I retired
>> I began to receive a SS check, the amount based on my contributions...
>> given a choice I would have much rather the Grubberment not deduct
>> premiums, I'd have a lot more income had I invested all that money
>> myself. The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
>> those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
>> do absolutely nothing but party on my dime
>>
>
> Excellent rant! I agree.

+2

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 11:09 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> So are you saying that all senior citizens are on Welfare as well?
>>
>> I paid into that fund as did my employers. I'm not on anyone's welfare!
>>
>
> Absolutely. I've been putting in for about 55 years (still am) so I have
> no guilt about taking it out.

Me either.

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 11:09 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>>> So are you saying that all senior citizens are on Welfare as well?
>>
>> I paid into that fund as did my employers. I'm not on anyone's welfare!
>>
>
> Absolutely. I've been putting in for about 55 years (still am) so I have
> no guilt about taking it out.

And I paid in as well. So how does that make *me* on it?

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2014 3:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare and my ass
>> isn't fat.
>
> Please post a photo of it so we can judge for ourselves.

Nope.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
> those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
> do absolutely nothing but party on my dime

If anyone wants a shock, look up salary, perks, and retirement for US
congressmen and senators.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> eb.com...
>> On 12/26/2014 6:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collecting disability is not the same as collecting welfare
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, disability *is* a form of welfare even though it's not called
>>>>> that. Any money you get from tax payers is welfare money. Food stamps
>>>>> and unemployment too.
>>>
>>> Actually SSDI is no more welfare than unemployment insurance... if a
>>> person worked and contributed to SSDI it's exactly the same as any
>>> insurance where one pays premiums. The fact that the grubberment is
>>> hijacking the SSA bank to give benefits to non workers/non
>>> contributors makes those programs theft, not welfare. When I retired
>>> I began to receive a SS check, the amount based on my contributions...
>>> given a choice I would have much rather the Grubberment not deduct
>>> premiums, I'd have a lot more income had I invested all that money
>>> myself. The real welfare cheats are grubbermint employees, especially
>>> those elected to office, they get big money, all kinds of perks, and
>>> do absolutely nothing but party on my dime
>>>
>>
>> Excellent rant! I agree.
>
> +2

+3 same here!

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