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Bove wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 1/20/2015 1:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 1/19/2015 8:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> None of those are what I am talking about.
>>>>
>>>> Then ask them at the restaurant. It's apparent no one knows what the
>>>> heck you're calling a huge chalupa available only in some local place.
>>>
>>> It's not only in some local place. All of the Mexican places here serve
>>> them.

>>
>> "Here" being where you live, meaning LOCAL. In your general area. Not
>> where everyone else on RFC lives. Ask the guy. He'll either tell you or
>> he won't.

>
>Yeah, I know he will. I just assumed that there would be an actual recipe
>for it somewhere but apparently not.


There is no one chalupa recipe, not anymore than there is one recipe
for pizza.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalupa
This looks good:
http://www.macheesmo.com/2010/04/chalupas/
I'm certain the Bove will list at least nineteen reasons why she can't
eat it.
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 04:14:17 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic of
>> >> >>what
>> >> >>I
>> >> >>am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just keep
>> >> >>finding
>> >> >>Taco Bell stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> > Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>> >> > If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I loved
>> >> > em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>> >>
>> >> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>> >> gorditas
>> >> are. I have made them.
>> >
>> > Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>> > they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.

>>
>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.

>
>How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>there is no way to read your mind.


Nothing like a rousing game of "Why don't you - Yes, but" to liven up
the newsgroup :-)

(I actually downloaded the text of the book "The Games People Play".
I've only read a bit of it so far, but it's interesting.)

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On 2015-01-20 8:45 AM, Doris Night wrote:

>> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>> there is no way to read your mind.

>
> Nothing like a rousing game of "Why don't you - Yes, but" to liven up
> the newsgroup :-)
>
> (I actually downloaded the text of the book "The Games People Play".
> I've only read a bit of it so far, but it's interesting.)
>


I forget who it was that had the brilliant idea of replying with "That
is too bad. What are you going to do about it?".

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"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic of
>> >> >>what
>> >> >>I
>> >> >>am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just keep
>> >> >>finding
>> >> >>Taco Bell stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> > Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>> >> > If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I
>> >> > loved
>> >> > em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>> >>
>> >> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>> >> gorditas
>> >> are. I have made them.
>> >
>> > Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>> > they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.

>>
>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.

>
> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
> there is no way to read your mind.


Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was just
a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla. Beans
inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other stuff too
but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key here. His dad
makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can buy. But they are
heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 04:14:17 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic
>>> >> >>of
>>> >> >>what
>>> >> >>I
>>> >> >>am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just
>>> >> >>keep
>>> >> >>finding
>>> >> >>Taco Bell stuff.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>>> >> > If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I
>>> >> > loved
>>> >> > em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>>> >>
>>> >> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>>> >> gorditas
>>> >> are. I have made them.
>>> >
>>> > Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>>> > they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.
>>>
>>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.

>>
>>How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>>oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>>there is no way to read your mind.

>
> Nothing like a rousing game of "Why don't you - Yes, but" to liven up
> the newsgroup :-)
>
> (I actually downloaded the text of the book "The Games People Play".
> I've only read a bit of it so far, but it's interesting.)


I'm not playing a game here. I asked what I thought would be a simple
question. Apparently it wasn't. I have said repeatedly here that I will
not take pics of my food. Frankly I think that is a really silly thing to
do. I know that some people are into that. I'm not. I'm not into pics of
anything and I rarely ever take any of anything.



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"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> Bove wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 1/20/2015 1:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 1/19/2015 8:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of those are what I am talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then ask them at the restaurant. It's apparent no one knows what the
>>>>> heck you're calling a huge chalupa available only in some local place.
>>>>
>>>> It's not only in some local place. All of the Mexican places here
>>>> serve
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> "Here" being where you live, meaning LOCAL. In your general area. Not
>>> where everyone else on RFC lives. Ask the guy. He'll either tell you
>>> or
>>> he won't.

>>
>>Yeah, I know he will. I just assumed that there would be an actual recipe
>>for it somewhere but apparently not.

>
> There is no one chalupa recipe, not anymore than there is one recipe
> for pizza.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalupa
> This looks good:
> http://www.macheesmo.com/2010/04/chalupas/
> I'm certain the Bove will list at least nineteen reasons why she can't
> eat it.


Yes, I can see that in looking it up. But when you order a chalupa here,
unless you are at Taco Bell, you'll get a fried flour tortilla. I believe
the second link you provided uses corn. I can't eat corn. I also don't
like most fried food which is why I would never order the standard (at least
standard to here) chalupa. It's very greasy.

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On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.


Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.

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On 1/20/2015 5:50 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:39:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic of what I
>> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just keep finding
>> Taco Bell stuff.

>
> Take a picture of it with your phone.
>

Don't be ridiculous, sf! We're supposed to guess what she's talking about.

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On 2015-01-20 9:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/20/2015 5:50 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:39:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:


>> Take a picture of it with your phone.
>>

> Don't be ridiculous, sf! We're supposed to guess what she's talking about.
>
>


No need. She just needs you guys to pay attention to her.

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On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:53:16 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> > just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> > Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> > stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> > here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> > buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>


He could have made them to order on a comal. Or he could have warmed them
up on a well-seasoned griddle.


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On 1/20/2015 10:17 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-01-20 9:53 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/20/2015 5:50 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:39:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:

>
>>> Take a picture of it with your phone.
>>>

>> Don't be ridiculous, sf! We're supposed to guess what she's talking
>> about.
>>
>>

>
> No need. She just needs you guys to pay attention to her.
>

Dave... get over it. You talk about not encouraging her yet you do it
*constantly* by telling us WE shouldn't. Please stop playing Netcop. I
can figure out which posts I want to reply to or not, thanks.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:45:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Bove wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 1/20/2015 1:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 1/19/2015 8:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None of those are what I am talking about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then ask them at the restaurant. It's apparent no one knows what the
>>>>>> heck you're calling a huge chalupa available only in some local place.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not only in some local place. All of the Mexican places here
>>>>> serve
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> "Here" being where you live, meaning LOCAL. In your general area. Not
>>>> where everyone else on RFC lives. Ask the guy. He'll either tell you
>>>> or
>>>> he won't.
>>>
>>>Yeah, I know he will. I just assumed that there would be an actual recipe
>>>for it somewhere but apparently not.

>>
>> There is no one chalupa recipe, not anymore than there is one recipe
>> for pizza.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalupa
>> This looks good:
>> http://www.macheesmo.com/2010/04/chalupas/
>> I'm certain the Bove will list at least nineteen reasons why she can't
>> eat it.

>
>Yes, I can see that in looking it up. But when you order a chalupa here,
>unless you are at Taco Bell, you'll get a fried flour tortilla. I believe
>the second link you provided uses corn. I can't eat corn. I also don't
>like most fried food which is why I would never order the standard (at least
>standard to here) chalupa. It's very greasy.


Seems your chalupa would be buttered Wonder white toast.
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
>Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>
>Jill


It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
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On 1/20/2015 1:42 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>>
>> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>>
>> Jill

>
> It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
> MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
> Janet US
>

Great solution! :-D

Jill


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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:48:15 -0500, jmcquown >
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>On 1/20/2015 1:42 PM, Janet B wrote:


snip
>>
>> It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
>> MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
>> Janet US
>>

>Great solution! :-D
>
>Jill


Here's one place to get them
http://tinyurl.com/m7jxbrg
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On 01/20/2015 06:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.


Flour tortillas are made from wheat flour, water or milk, vegetable
shortening, baking powder and salt. That's just about all.

"Frying" doesn't always mean deep-fat frying. Traditionally, tortillas
were cooked on a "comal", or griddle. No oil was used. With a good
balance of shortening and baking soda, you could toast them in a skillet
to be as puffy as you like and still not have them stick.
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> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>
> Jill


For sure this is not steamed. It remains soft, is not crunchy but is
slightly browned on the outside. Perhaps the difference could be that he
heats it on a griddle or some such thing that I don't have in my house. But
I also think it has to do with the superior tortillas.

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> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:53:16 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>> > just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>> > Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>> > stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>> > here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I
>> > can
>> > buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>>
>> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>>

>
> He could have made them to order on a comal. Or he could have warmed them
> up on a well-seasoned griddle.


His dad makes them but at his own restaurant. The griddle very well might
be the difference. I have tried using a skillet.

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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>>
>>Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>>flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>>
>>Jill

>
> It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
> MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
> Janet US


That's not how these come out though. Although soft, not that soft. But
not totally dried out either. Just a very good texture. I do think that it
has to do with the tortillas. The ones I can buy are slightly stretchy.
These are not.



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> On 1/20/2015 1:42 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>>>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>>>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>>>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>>>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I
>>>> can
>>>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.
>>>
>>> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>>> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
>> MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
>> Janet US
>>

> Great solution! :-D


Not really. As I have said, I know how to warm tortillas in the microwave
and that's not how these are done.

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I certainly NEVER nuke any bread product, regardless of damp paper towels, or other quirky
"tricks," nuking always makes the bread tough. The same would apply to tortillas.


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> On 01/20/2015 06:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
> Flour tortillas are made from wheat flour, water or milk, vegetable
> shortening, baking powder and salt. That's just about all.


Not if you buy them. They have a long list of ingredients, including corn
starch and barley. There are only a few purchased brands I can eat. Surito
is one of them.
>
> "Frying" doesn't always mean deep-fat frying. Traditionally, tortillas
> were cooked on a "comal", or griddle. No oil was used. With a good balance
> of shortening and baking soda, you could toast them in a skillet to be as
> puffy as you like and still not have them stick.


These are not puffy. The fried ones are slightly puffy.

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>I certainly NEVER nuke any bread product, regardless of damp paper towels,
>or other quirky
> "tricks," nuking always makes the bread tough. The same would apply to
> tortillas.
>
>
> N.


I do nuke tortillas for burritos. But no tricks.

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>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic of
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just keep
>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>> Taco Bell stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>>>>>> If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I >> >> > loved
>>>>>> em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>>>>> gorditas
>>>>> are. I have made them.
>>>>
>>>> Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>>>> they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.
>>>
>>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.

>>
>> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>> there is no way to read your mind.

>
> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.


Perhaps with an electric tortilla steamer or flat panini press. That's how
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"jinx the minx" > wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just
>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>>> Taco Bell stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>>>>>>> If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I >>
>>>>>>> >> > loved
>>>>>>> em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>>>>>> gorditas
>>>>>> are. I have made them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>>>>> they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.
>>>>
>>>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.
>>>
>>> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>>> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>>> there is no way to read your mind.

>>
>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
> Perhaps with an electric tortilla steamer or flat panini press. That's
> how
> I've seen made-to-order tortilla wraps and things done.


For sure these are not steamed.

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> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>
>>> news >>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic >>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just >>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>>>> Taco Bell stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>>>>>>>> If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I
>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> > loved
>>>>>>>> em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>>>>>>> gorditas
>>>>>>> are. I have made them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>>>>>> they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.
>>>>
>>>> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>>>> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>>>> there is no way to read your mind.
>>>
>>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
>>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>>
>> Perhaps with an electric tortilla steamer or flat panini press. That's > how
>> I've seen made-to-order tortilla wraps and things done.

>
> For sure these are not steamed.


And you know that how, exactly?
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:43:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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> I'm not playing a game here. I asked what I thought would be a simple
> question. Apparently it wasn't. I have said repeatedly here that I will
> not take pics of my food. Frankly I think that is a really silly thing to
> do. I know that some people are into that. I'm not. I'm not into pics of
> anything and I rarely ever take any of anything.


Then you're left with the pictures on Yelp and Google images. Do some
footwork. If there was an easy answer you wouldn't need to ask here.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:41:45 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was just
> a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla. Beans
> inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other stuff too
> but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key here. His dad
> makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can buy. But they are
> heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.


We can't figure it out how for you. You have to do it all by
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
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> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> > just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> > Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> > stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> > here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> > buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

>
> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
>

That would be a floppy, flat tortilla - not a chalupa.


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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:26:21 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:53:16 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> >> > just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> >> > Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> >> > stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> >> > here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I
> >> > can
> >> > buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.
> >>
> >> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> >> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
> >>

> >
> > He could have made them to order on a comal. Or he could have warmed them
> > up on a well-seasoned griddle.

>
> His dad makes them but at his own restaurant. The griddle very well might
> be the difference. I have tried using a skillet.


Oh, good grief! There is no difference whatsoever in outcome between
the two and neither will give you what you're supposedly asking for.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 11:42:57 -0700, Janet B >
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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> >> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> >> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> >> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> >> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> >> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.

> >
> >Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> >flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
> >
> >Jill

>
> It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
> MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
> Janet US


Except you'd end up with a soft taco, not a chalupa.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:48:15 -0500, jmcquown >
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> On 1/20/2015 1:42 PM, Janet B wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
> >>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
> >>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
> >>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
> >>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I can
> >>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.
> >>
> >> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
> >> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an oven.
> >>
> >> Jill

> >
> > It's really simple. There are cloth tortilla warmers you put in the
> > MC. The tortillas come out hot, soft.
> > Janet US
> >

> Great solution! :-D
>

Which is not a chalupa.


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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:53:45 -0500, jmcquown >
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> On 1/20/2015 5:50 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:39:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic of what I
> >> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just keep finding
> >> Taco Bell stuff.

> >
> > Take a picture of it with your phone.
> >

> Don't be ridiculous, sf! We're supposed to guess what she's talking about.
>

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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 06:43:26 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm not playing a game here. I asked what I thought would be a simple
>> question. Apparently it wasn't. I have said repeatedly here that I will
>> not take pics of my food. Frankly I think that is a really silly thing
>> to
>> do. I know that some people are into that. I'm not. I'm not into pics
>> of
>> anything and I rarely ever take any of anything.

>
> Then you're left with the pictures on Yelp and Google images. Do some
> footwork. If there was an easy answer you wouldn't need to ask here.


There's nothing there that looks like this.

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> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:26:21 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:53:16 AM UTC-8, jmcquown wrote:
>> >> On 1/20/2015 9:41 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> > Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it
>> >> > was
>> >> > just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour
>> >> > tortilla.
>> >> > Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be
>> >> > other
>> >> > stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are
>> >> > key
>> >> > here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I
>> >> > can
>> >> > buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the
>> >> > oven.
>> >>
>> >> Ever heard of steaming? That's about the only option left for heating
>> >> flour tortillas if they are not fried and they aren't heated in an
>> >> oven.
>> >>
>> >
>> > He could have made them to order on a comal. Or he could have warmed
>> > them
>> > up on a well-seasoned griddle.

>>
>> His dad makes them but at his own restaurant. The griddle very well
>> might
>> be the difference. I have tried using a skillet.

>
> Oh, good grief! There is no difference whatsoever in outcome between
> the two and neither will give you what you're supposedly asking for.


Why do you say that neither would? The skillet was pretty close but I think
the difference is in the tortillas.

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> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message >>
>>>> news >>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 03:24:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:07:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The ones here are not mini. They are huge! I can not find a pic
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> am talking about. Nothing looks like what we get here. I just
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>>>>> Taco Bell stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Huge may be gordita, made with double thick corn tortilla:
>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordita
>>>>>>>>> If you live in an Hispanic hood you can buy gordita tortillas, I
>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> > loved
>>>>>>>>> em wrapped around fried pork and refried black beans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. As I said repeatedly, these are flour tortillas. I know what
>>>>>>>> gorditas
>>>>>>>> are. I have made them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flour tortillas puff up and are not as hard as corn tortillas when
>>>>>>> they are fried. They are crispy and flaky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh... Yeah. As I said... These are *not* the fried kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you know? Your only other alternative it to bake them in the
>>>>> oven. You haven't given us a visual or even a decent description and
>>>>> there is no way to read your mind.
>>>>
>>>> Because I asked him (the owner) what the soft one was. He said it was
>>>> just a flour tortilla. Not fried. Picture this. Big flour tortilla.
>>>> Beans inside. Also lettuce and tomato. Normally there would be other
>>>> stuff too but I have that left out. I do think the tortillas are key
>>>> here. His dad makes them and they are vastly superior to anything I
>>>> can
>>>> buy. But they are heated somehow and I don't think it is in the oven.
>>>
>>> Perhaps with an electric tortilla steamer or flat panini press. That's
>>> > how
>>> I've seen made-to-order tortilla wraps and things done.

>>
>> For sure these are not steamed.

>
> And you know that how, exactly?


Because if you get a side of tortillas, they are steamed and they are a
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On 2015-01-20 4:28 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I certainly NEVER nuke any bread product, regardless of damp paper towels, or other quirky
> "tricks," nuking always makes the bread tough. The same would apply to tortillas.
>


I think of it as vulcanizing. I have never had any luck with baked goods
of any type being nuked without ruining the texture. They can be heated
in the oven or in a toaster oven. I would rather have things old and
stale than nuked.







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