Instructional video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 1/27/2015 12:48 AM, sf wrote:
>
> Instructional video:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>
That's pretty friggin' funny!

I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven.
I see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
how to do that.

Jill

"sf" wrote in message ...


Instructional video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw

~~~~~~~
Unbelievable! It's not even satire...this woman is serious (put slices of
bread in the toaster slots...).

MaryL

On 27/01/2015 05:48, sf wrote:
>
> Instructional video:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>

That's an amateur job, with a certain charm. Last week we had the
renowned chef jamie Oliver telling us all how to make toast his way:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way

Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.

Tim W

Tim w wrote:
> Last week we had the
> renowned chef jamie Oliver telling us all how to make toast his way:
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way

I was about to say that way too. I've done it.
Also I was told of an English diner way to make toast. This was from a
friend that grew up in Manchester. Put a bit of bacon grease in the
pan, then make toast. I tried it and it's pretty tasty....bacon
flavored toast.

>
> Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.

LOL! I never would have thought of that but I'll bet some have tried
it. Occasionally, I'll make 2 pieces of toast (in a toaster), then
cover them with some thin sliced sharp cheddar, then put under the
broiler until browned and starting to turn black. That's a nice snack.

On 2015-01-27 1:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
> how to do that.

The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
you can do it over a stove burner.

On 1/27/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-01-27 1:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
>> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
>> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
>> how to do that.
>
> The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
> you can do it over a stove burner.
>
>
I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
guess she was. Morons abound.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/27/2015 12:48 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> Instructional video:
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>>
> That's pretty friggin' funny!
>
> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know how
> to do that.
>
> Jill

can't you just buy pretoasted bread these days?

On 2015-01-27 11:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>> The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
>> you can do it over a stove burner.
>>
>>
> I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
> electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
> video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
> guess she was. Morons abound.
>

Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of the average person. I have to
wonder about something regarding that presentation on toast making. If
the intended audience is stupid that they need to be told and shown how
to make toast, how are they going to know about the video? Accessing it
online would be more complicated than making toast.

On 1/27/2015 11:22 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-01-27 11:12 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
>>> you can do it over a stove burner.
>>>
>>>
>> I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
>> electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
>> video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
>> guess she was. Morons abound.
>>
>
> Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of the average person. I have to
> wonder about something regarding that presentation on toast making. If
> the intended audience is stupid that they need to be told and shown how
> to make toast, how are they going to know about the video? Accessing it
> online would be more complicated than making toast.
>
Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
English Muffins is surprisingly high.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 2015-01-27, Tim w > wrote:

> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way
>
> Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.

The entire website is ludicrous.

WTF are "belt and braces"?

He parrots the old parental saw about bread's nutrition being in the
crust. In this case he sez "most of the nutrients of any bread are in
the crust". They are!? How did all that nutrition migrate from the
center of the loaf to jes the surface and what heat was used that
turned the crust into a bread component of high nutritional content
while the rest of the bread is jes --what?-- filler?

Did we really need a graphic to tell us how to cut a piece of toast?
And if we do, why didn't he explain the British colloquialisms he
tosses around like the sun still never sets on the Empire.

"I like soldiers" Really!? Are you a poof? It would explain much.

nb --feeling petulant, this morning

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:16:45 +0000, Tim w > wrote:

> On 27/01/2015 05:48, sf wrote:
> >
> > Instructional video:
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
> >
>
> That's an amateur job, with a certain charm. Last week we had the
> renowned chef jamie Oliver telling us all how to make toast his way:
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way

I've seen that before. Not sure what the difference is between that
and fried bread, but I'm not asking because I don't care.

The bottle idea is just plain wrong because it would put a dip in the
middle and the under part where the bottle is will brown faster due to
the weight. Use a bacon press or a weighted cake pan for even
browning.

I'm glad he didn't get into a "soggy" toast (whatever that is) rant
and I'm glad he specified spreading *room* temperature butter.
Nothing annoys me more than a dab of cold butter in the middle of a
piece of toast. Leave it off if you're going to be that lazy.
>
> Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.
>
Actually, I am very happy to see that precaution because one of the
food tips making the rounds on the internet is how to turn your
toaster into a broiler for cheese sandwiches... and apparently he's
one who advocated it at one time.
http://www.thekitchn.com/lunch-tip-f...iver-to-144021


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

In article >,
says...
>
> On 1/27/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2015-01-27 1:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
> >> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
> >> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
> >> how to do that.
> >
> > The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
> > you can do it over a stove burner.
> >
> >
> I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
> electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
> video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
> guess she was.

Who is to say what audience the video was made for. We take Western
style kitchens and gadgets for granted.

There are plenty of young adults (especially ones coming out of
institutional care) who for whatever reason have always had all their
meals cooked and laundry done (out of their sight) have no clue how to
operate the domestic gadgets we take for granted, or make the simplest
meal or snack. I've also met older widowed men and male overseas
students, in the same situation.

Janet UK

On 2015-01-27 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:

>> Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of the average person. I have to
>> wonder about something regarding that presentation on toast making. If
>> the intended audience is stupid that they need to be told and shown how
>> to make toast, how are they going to know about the video? Accessing it
>> online would be more complicated than making toast.
>>
> Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
> Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
> complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
> English Muffins is surprisingly high.
>


Did you watch the video. An expert of some sort demonstrated how to make
toast in a toaster and in a toaster oven. Put slices in toaster, press
the lever down... wait. For the toaster oven, open the door, put bread
in, close door, press button.

There was a major flaw if this video was aimed at people stupid enough
to need these instructions. They forgot to advise viewers to plug in the
toaster.

Pico Rico wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/27/2015 12:48 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Instructional video:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>>>
>> That's pretty friggin' funny!
>>
>> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
>> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
>> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know how
>> to do that.
>>
>> Jill
>
> can't you just buy pretoasted bread these days?

yes

it's called "croutons"

(for the hyper-observant, I already know I've posted that here before)

notbob wrote:
> On 2015-01-27, Tim w > wrote:
>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way
>>
>> Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.
>
> The entire website is ludicrous.
>
> WTF are "belt and braces"?
>
> He parrots the old parental saw about bread's nutrition being in the
> crust. In this case he sez "most of the nutrients of any bread are in
> the crust". They are!? How did all that nutrition migrate from the
> center of the loaf to jes the surface and what heat was used that
> turned the crust into a bread component of high nutritional content
> while the rest of the bread is jes --what?-- filler?
>
> Did we really need a graphic to tell us how to cut a piece of toast?
> And if we do, why didn't he explain the British colloquialisms he
> tosses around like the sun still never sets on the Empire.
>
> "I like soldiers" Really!? Are you a poof? It would explain much.
>
> nb --feeling petulant, this morning


you must be Scottish


p.s. toast is the BEST

Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is quicker to heat up and cool down,
and most convenient for single servings of entrees. I use mine nearly every day, and use the big oven
only when I bake a large recipe or a cake or cookies. It makes beautiful toast. But the main
advantage is that it is so economical to use.

N.

On 1/27/2015 1:41 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 1/27/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2015-01-27 1:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
>>>> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
>>>> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
>>>> how to do that.
>>>
>>> The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
>>> you can do it over a stove burner.
>>>
>>>
>> I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
>> electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
>> video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
>> guess she was.
>
> Who is to say what audience the video was made for. We take Western
> style kitchens and gadgets for granted.
>
> There are plenty of young adults (especially ones coming out of
> institutional care) who for whatever reason have always had all their
> meals cooked and laundry done (out of their sight) have no clue how to
> operate the domestic gadgets we take for granted, or make the simplest
> meal or snack. I've also met older widowed men and male overseas
> students, in the same situation.
>
> Janet UK
>
>
I'm happy to say I never met a man (or child, don't know about
institutions) who didn't know how to operate a toaster.

Jill

On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is quicker to heat up and cool down,
> and most convenient for single servings of entrees. I use mine nearly every day, and use the big oven
> only when I bake a large recipe or a cake or cookies. It makes beautiful toast. But the main
> advantage is that it is so economical to use.
>
> N.
>
Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!

Jill

On 27/01/2015 18:15, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:16:45 +0000, Tim w > wrote:
>
>> On 27/01/2015 05:48, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Instructional video:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>>>
>>
>> That's an amateur job, with a certain charm. Last week we had the
>> renowned chef jamie Oliver telling us all how to make toast his way:
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...mie-oliver-way
>
> I've seen that before. Not sure what the difference is between that
> and fried bread, but I'm not asking because I don't care.
>
> The bottle idea is just plain wrong because it would put a dip in the
> middle and the under part where the bottle is will brown faster due to
> the weight. Use a bacon press or a weighted cake pan for even
> browning.
>
> I'm glad he didn't get into a "soggy" toast (whatever that is) rant
> and I'm glad he specified spreading *room* temperature butter.
> Nothing annoys me more than a dab of cold butter in the middle of a
> piece of toast. Leave it off if you're going to be that lazy.
>>
>> Look at the footnote added at the bottom. It's funny.
>>
> Actually, I am very happy to see that precaution because one of the
> food tips making the rounds on the internet is how to turn your
> toaster into a broiler for cheese sandwiches... and apparently he's
> one who advocated it at one time.
> http://www.thekitchn.com/lunch-tip-f...iver-to-144021
>

>
If Jamie had tried turning his toaster on the side he would know that
when the toast is done it pops out straight onto the floor.

Ti W

On 1/27/2015 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:

> Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
> Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
> complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
> English Muffins is surprisingly high.
>

I never change the setting. For English muffins and rye bread, I just
push it back down for a while. For white bread, it is perfect every
time. Maybe some day I'll actually try changing them for consistency.

On 1/27/2015 1:15 PM, sf wrote:

> I'm glad he didn't get into a "soggy" toast (whatever that is) rant
> and I'm glad he specified spreading *room* temperature butter.
> Nothing annoys me more than a dab of cold butter in the middle of a
> piece of toast. Leave it off if you're going to be that lazy.

Right, you put three of four thin cold dabs of button on the toast.
Partly melts and has some solid texture when you bite into it. Best
with a runny egg yolk or good strawberry preserves.

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 8:43:24 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-01-27 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
> >> Don't ever underestimate the stupidity of the average person. I have to
> >> wonder about something regarding that presentation on toast making. If
> >> the intended audience is stupid that they need to be told and shown how
> >> to make toast, how are they going to know about the video? Accessing it
> >> online would be more complicated than making toast.
> >>
> > Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
> > Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
> > complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
> > English Muffins is surprisingly high.
> >
>
>
> Did you watch the video. An expert of some sort demonstrated how to make
> toast in a toaster and in a toaster oven. Put slices in toaster, press
> the lever down... wait. For the toaster oven, open the door, put bread
> in, close door, press button.
>
> There was a major flaw if this video was aimed at people stupid enough
> to need these instructions. They forgot to advise viewers to plug in the
> toaster.

I was watching the operation of my toaster this morning. I was mesmerized by this small appliance. I noticed that one side of the bread was only half the distance to the heating elements as the other. How strange is that? Then I noticed that side that was closer to the bread had half the elements of the far side. The result was that both sides were evenly done. Wow, cool!

On 1/27/2015 2:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is
>> quicker to heat up and cool down,
>> and most convenient for single servings of entrees.
>> N.
>>
> Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
> toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
> one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!
>
> Jill

You're both right. A toaster is better for toast, but the toaster oven
has many other uses and be quite handy. We've had both but for the past
dozen years, just a toaster. If we had more counter space, I'd consider
the toaster oven too. They are good for reheating pizza slices. I'd
not broil a steak in one though.

On 1/27/2015 3:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/27/2015 2:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is
>>> quicker to heat up and cool down,
>>> and most convenient for single servings of entrees.
>>> N.
>>>
>> Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
>> toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
>> one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!
>>
>> Jill
>
> You're both right. A toaster is better for toast, but the toaster oven
> has many other uses and be quite handy. We've had both but for the past
> dozen years, just a toaster. If we had more counter space, I'd consider
> the toaster oven too. They are good for reheating pizza slices. I'd
> not broil a steak in one though.

Not being a fan of pizza, just one less countertop appliance for me.

Jill

On 1/27/2015 3:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/27/2015 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>
>> Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
>> Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
>> complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
>> English Muffins is surprisingly high.
>>
>
> I never change the setting. For English muffins and rye bread, I just
> push it back down for a while. For white bread, it is perfect every
> time. Maybe some day I'll actually try changing them for consistency.

I had to go look. My toaster is a Proctor Silex with wide slots and
push buttons for popping the toast back up if you elect NOT to toast the
bread a little longer than the setting. You decide when it's done.
Nice feature but I still don't eat toast every day.

Jill

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:35:43 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 1/27/2015 3:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 1/27/2015 2:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is
> >>> quicker to heat up and cool down,
> >>> and most convenient for single servings of entrees.
> >>> N.
> >>>
> >> Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
> >> toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
> >> one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > You're both right. A toaster is better for toast, but the toaster oven
> > has many other uses and be quite handy. We've had both but for the past
> > dozen years, just a toaster. If we had more counter space, I'd consider
> > the toaster oven too. They are good for reheating pizza slices. I'd
> > not broil a steak in one though.
>
> Not being a fan of pizza, just one less countertop appliance for me.
>
I use the cast iron pan method for reheating pizza and it comes out as
if it was just baked.


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:22:35 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/27/2015 2:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is
>>> quicker to heat up and cool down,
>>> and most convenient for single servings of entrees.
>>> N.
>>>
>> Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
>> toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
>> one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!
>>
>> Jill
>
>You're both right. A toaster is better for toast, but the toaster oven
>has many other uses and be quite handy. We've had both but for the past
>dozen years, just a toaster. If we had more counter space, I'd consider
>the toaster oven too. They are good for reheating pizza slices. I'd
>not broil a steak in one though.

I'd rather cold than reheated pizza.

"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/27/2015 12:48 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> Instructional video:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...?utm_hp_ref=tw
>>>
>> That's pretty friggin' funny!
>>
>> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven. I
>> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
>> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know how
>> to do that.
>>
>> Jill
>
> can't you just buy pretoasted bread these days?

Yes. Bimbo makes some. There is also Melba Toast.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On 1/27/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2015-01-27 1:09 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a toaster. I don't use it often. I do not own a toaster oven.
>> >> I
>> >> see no need for it since I have an actual oven. Way back before I had
>> >> either one, I learned how to toast bread in the *oven*. I still know
>> >> how to do that.
>> >
>> > The oven is good for toast if doing a lot. If only doing a piece or two
>> > you can do it over a stove burner.
>> >
>> >
>> I have an electric stove. But hey, toasting bread in a skillet on an
>> electric burner is also a no brainer. What's funny is the woman in the
>> video seriously seemed to think she was teaching people something. I
>> guess she was.
>
> Who is to say what audience the video was made for. We take Western
> style kitchens and gadgets for granted.
>
> There are plenty of young adults (especially ones coming out of
> institutional care) who for whatever reason have always had all their
> meals cooked and laundry done (out of their sight) have no clue how to
> operate the domestic gadgets we take for granted, or make the simplest
> meal or snack. I've also met older widowed men and male overseas
> students, in the same situation.
>
> Janet UK

True! My friend became blind at age 8. Of course a video wouldn't have
helped her but she was never allowed to use things in the kitchen. Her mom
was a caterer and did all of the cooking. So she had to go to school to
learn how to do things like grocery shop and cook as a blind person.
Including using the toaster.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is quicker
> to heat up and cool down,
> and most convenient for single servings of entrees. I use mine nearly
> every day, and use the big oven
> only when I bake a large recipe or a cake or cookies. It makes beautiful
> toast. But the main
> advantage is that it is so economical to use.
>
> N.

I had one years ago because I had been led to believe that toasters never
worked. Why? My parents had a ton of them, all the same, given to them as
wedding gifts. And none of them worked right.

I lost my toaster oven when my roommate had set a package of Styrofoam cups
next to it and I hadn't noticed. Turned it on and noticed a horrid smell.
I suppose there may have been some way to have cleaned it all off but I
didn't even bother to try. Got rid of it and couldn't afford another one so
bought a cheap toaster and it worked!

Nowadays you can buy cool to the touch toasters so I assume you can also buy
toaster ovens like that but I can't see myself using one. My mom used to
use hers for London Broil but I never make that. Can't see what else I
would need one for and I have no place to store it.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/27/2015 3:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/27/2015 12:26 PM, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>> Toasters are easy to use and can do some other things: defrosting frozen
>>> Pita bread is one and "English Muffins" are another. There is the
>>> complication of having to remember the settings of course; that for
>>> English Muffins is surprisingly high.
>>>
>>
>> I never change the setting. For English muffins and rye bread, I just
>> push it back down for a while. For white bread, it is perfect every
>> time. Maybe some day I'll actually try changing them for consistency.
>
> I had to go look. My toaster is a Proctor Silex with wide slots and push
> buttons for popping the toast back up if you elect NOT to toast the bread
> a little longer than the setting. You decide when it's done. Nice feature
> but I still don't eat toast every day.

One of my old toasters had a bread brain. I don't know how it did it but
whatever you put in it was always toasted perfectly. I currently have a 4
slice and it's not so great. Each slot seems to toast a little differently.

"Janet" wrote in message
t...

Who is to say what audience the video was made for. We take Western
style kitchens and gadgets for granted.

There are plenty of young adults (especially ones coming out of
institutional care) who for whatever reason have always had all their
meals cooked and laundry done (out of their sight) have no clue how to
operate the domestic gadgets we take for granted, or make the simplest
meal or snack. I've also met older widowed men and male overseas
students, in the same situation.

Janet UK

~~~~~~~
This may be true, but I think people who can't figure out how to use a
toaster would also not know how to use a computer, locate YouTube, and
figure out how to find tutorials.

MaryL

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...

True! My friend became blind at age 8. Of course a video wouldn't have
helped her but she was never allowed to use things in the kitchen. Her mom
was a caterer and did all of the cooking. So she had to go to school to
learn how to do things like grocery shop and cook as a blind person.
Including using the toaster.

~~~~~~~~
That is so sad. I have a friend who has been blind since birth. She earned
a PhD, got all A's all the way through school, and taught at a state
university. I took her out to eat and grocery shopping once a week until
she moved to another town. She was remarkable--lived alone, cooked her
meals, and even had developed a sense of what colors of clothes went
together (developed from reading). She would ask questions about the colors
and then hang clothes in her closet so she would know what "went together."

MaryL

Brooklyn1 > wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:22:35 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/27/2015 2:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2015 2:19 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is
>>>> quicker to heat up and cool down,
>>>> and most convenient for single servings of entrees.
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>> Nancy2, it also takes up counter space and if you don't eat a lot of
>>> toast or use it as a "broiler" [what a joke]... let's just say I got the
>>> one I was given as a gift. I did give it the old college try!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> You're both right. A toaster is better for toast, but the toaster oven
>> has many other uses and be quite handy. We've had both but for the past
>> dozen years, just a toaster. If we had more counter space, I'd consider
>> the toaster oven too. They are good for reheating pizza slices. I'd
>> not broil a steak in one though.
>
> I'd rather cold than reheated pizza.

Reheated sometimes is too dry.

Greg

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> True! My friend became blind at age 8. Of course a video wouldn't have
> helped her but she was never allowed to use things in the kitchen. Her
> mom
> was a caterer and did all of the cooking. So she had to go to school to
> learn how to do things like grocery shop and cook as a blind person.
> Including using the toaster.
>
> ~~~~~~~~
> That is so sad. I have a friend who has been blind since birth. She
> earned a PhD, got all A's all the way through school, and taught at a
> state university. I took her out to eat and grocery shopping once a week
> until she moved to another town. She was remarkable--lived alone, cooked
> her meals, and even had developed a sense of what colors of clothes went
> together (developed from reading). She would ask questions about the
> colors and then hang clothes in her closet so she would know what "went
> together."

My friend started doing much better after she finally married a much older
man who is also blind. They're both lawyers now. He did make some mistakes
such as feeding his kids dog food once. Or at least trying to. His
daughter noticed the mistake and thought it was funny.

Unfortunately my friend's parents had been so very overprotective of her
that she had a really tough time out in the real world at first. And
because she was never allowed to make any choices, the choices she used to
make as an adult were poor ones. Like marrying a really creepy guy who was
also blind, just to get out of the house. She went through a few very bad
years but then thankfully got back on a good track!

I warm rolls, heat single serving entrees, make toast in my toaster oven. I have plenty of
counter space. I rarely broil anything.

N.

In article >,
writes:
>I have a friend who has been blind since birth. She earned
>a PhD, got all A's all the way through school, and taught at a state
>university.

That's me! I'm totally blind from birth and in the process of writing my Ph.D.
dissertation on Cuban piano at U. Penn. Hopefully, I'll find a state university
professorial post after it's done.

>I took her out to eat and grocery shopping once a week until
>she moved to another town.

That kind of consistent help is always welcome. My fiancée works long shifts as
an emergency room nurse, so I often must make due without her. That gets
difficult without friends or family nearby to help.

>She was remarkable--lived alone, cooked her
>meals, and even had developed a sense of what colors of clothes went
>together (developed from reading). She would ask questions about the colors
>and then hang clothes in her closet so she would know what "went together."

I did all that when I lived alone. I can cook almost anything from soup to
nuts, as long as people don't rearrange the kitchen.

Orlando

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:19:32 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Jill, a toaster oven uses much less power than a regular oven, is quicker to heat up and cool down,
>and most convenient for single servings of entrees. I use mine nearly every day, and use the big oven
>only when I bake a large recipe or a cake or cookies. It makes beautiful toast. But the main
>advantage is that it is so economical to use.
>
>N.

Nancy,
As a Toaster Oven fan you need to be aware of one of the latest
developments. Click this link:

http://youtu.be/AUKnKCW_XRw

Truly a leap forward from the old GE
Toaster Ovens of the sixties.

William

"Janet" wrote:
>
> Who is to say what audience the video was made for. We take Western
> style kitchens and gadgets for granted.
>
> There are plenty of young adults (especially ones coming out of
> institutional care) who for whatever reason have always had all their
> meals cooked and laundry done (out of their sight) have no clue how to
> operate the domestic gadgets we take for granted, or make the simplest
> meal or snack. I've also met older widowed men and male overseas
> students, in the same situation.
>
> Janet UK

That fits perfectly with a radio segment I just heard for the third time
this week. It is about a blind man who gets around by clicking. He can
even ride a bike. Anyway, the relevant part is that the associations
etc. provide too much help--and too quickly. Therefore, the folks don't
learn to do things on their own--things they are perfectly capable of
doing. It sounds like much of the time, this is actually a DISservice
to the blind.