On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:10:54 -0600, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2015 10:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>
>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>
>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>
>I do.

I love them just plain cooked. No butter or salt and pepper. Just
the way they are. I really can't pace myself with them I love the
taste and the mouth feel. They are hard to get here and very
expensive when you can. I finally tried growing them again last year.
I hadn't grown them in years because I got some sort of leaf bug that
killed the plants.
Janet US

cshenk wrote:
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > I take my time to arrange the
> > chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>
> Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side. Works
> better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few minutes.

No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and you
have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.

I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each scoop.
:-D

On 1/30/2015 12:52 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Opinicus" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:34:02 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>
>>>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>
>>>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>>>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>
>>> Actually ... I do ;-)
>> While I can't stand them boiled or pickled, I do like borscht. I've
>> seen whole beets oven-roasted on cookery shows but I can't imagine
>> what they taste like. I suppose the roasting must make them very
>> sweet.
>
> I don't know. I boil them, and then cover them in malt vinegar The
> only way I like them I see others like pickles using white vinegar
> but I grew up with malt vinegar and I guess that is what I am used to
>
>
I think freshly boiled beets make a better vinegar pickle but not so
much so that the fast method of opening a can is out.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 01/29/2015 11:37 PM, sf wrote:

>
> My favorite use for it is to mix with sweet potatoes at least 50-50.
>

This. +1

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
> > > mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
> > >
> > Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to taste.
>
> LOL! I have to agree once again. Mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes
> stand alone quite fine. Substitutes are no where near as good, imo.
> :-D

What do you not understand about carbs and sugar?

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:26:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
> > the low-carb diet thing.
>
> I can understand that but don't tell me they are a great substitute.

They are excellent.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:50:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >> "Gary" wrote:
> >> > LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
> >> > eats beets and actually enjoys them?
> >>
> >> Actually ... I do ;-)
> >
> > I won't criticize that. If you like them, power to you.
> >
> > Also, since you cannot find clams....what the hell country doesn't
> > offer canned, frozen or fresh clams? You can at least order canned
> > ones from Amazon.
> >
> > Since it's such a pain in the butt there in Scotland, I'd suggest
> > buying a can of premade clam chowder just to see if you like it. If
> > you do, make your own and it will be better. Progresso makes a decent
> > version. Amazon will sell you that too.
> >
> > Do you not have seafood markets nearby that can find anything that you
> > request?
>
> I still haven't seen clams

Use cockles.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:50:02 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 1/30/2015 1:02 PM, sf wrote:
> >
> > Ophelia... it just occurred to me that you can probably find cockles
> > in Scotland and cockle is a type of clam! We use little necks for our
> > clam chowder, you can use cockles. They're smaller than Little
> > Necks, that's all. They are roughly the size of a Manila clam.
> > Manilas are 20-30/lb. Cockles from New Zealand's North Island are
> > 20-25 per pound. I looked but didn't find much about Scottish cockles
> > other than it looks like they are not a big commercial product
> > (somebody needs to fix that to start growing the economy) and they are
> > mostly poached for sale elsewhere.
> >
> Cockles were a basic food in coastal areas of Scotland since prehistoric
> times - but in many areas in the latter part of the last century,
> foreign fishing boats came in and scraped up vast quantities of them,
> not leaving enough for natural regeneration.
>
> When I was a child, I remember going down at low tide with a rake, and
> filling my bucket with them. But after the Spanish fishing fleet invaded
> the Kyle there there were no more cockles to be found
> There have been a few attempts to 'reseed' the area, and eventually
> there may be enough for local people to once again harvest them.

Someone needs to start farming them, which will mean local jobs.

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A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:41:14 +0200, Opinicus
> wrote:

> I suppose the roasting must make them very sweet.

Roasted beets are awesome.


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On 1/29/2015 11:53 AM, Janet B wrote:
> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl. How
> great is that !
> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind. As
> a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not eat.
> Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes (sweet as
> well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and nuts.
> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things without any
> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for ingredients. I
> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a rut about feeding us
> and complying with the list.
> Thanks
> Janet US

Read plenty of info about kidney stones, and try to figure out what he
was eating/drinking that could have caused them.

George had kidney stones about 18 years ago and he stopped drinking iced
tea, after that happened, and that was the only change he made in his
diet. He eats whatever he wants, we eat beans probably twice each week
and he eats nuts almost every day. So far, so good. I wish your husband
the best.

Becca

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:12:05 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:29:31 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> snip
> >> >
> >> >Sounds like corn is okay, so add tortilla soup to your list.
> >>
> >> My tortilla soup contains black beans. I've tried the soup without
> >> and it doesn't taste right to either of us. In a little while I
> >> will try again and use corn instead.
> >>
> >
> >I was talking about the corn in masa... tortilla chips.
>
> I will probably try corn kernels anyway. The soup is pretty lonely
> without the beans in there.
> Janet US


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
>> > > mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
>> > >
>> > Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to
>> > taste.
>>
>> LOL! I have to agree once again. Mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes
>> stand alone quite fine. Substitutes are no where near as good, imo.
>> :-D
>
> What do you not understand about carbs and sugar?

I understand carbs and sugar but there is nothing you can do to cauliflower
to make me want to eat it. I can handle a little bit raw or cooked in a
soup but otherwise, I just do not like it. There. Eating no cauliflower.
Even lower carbs!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
>> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
>> > potatoes...
>>
>> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>> the low-carb diet thing.
>>
>> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
>>
>
> Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
> this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
> that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
> because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
> telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
> "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
> mouth).

I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked cauliflower just
tastes bad!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:26:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> > The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>> > the low-carb diet thing.
>>
>> I can understand that but don't tell me they are a great substitute.
>
> They are excellent.

Very strongly disagree!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6,
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>
>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>
> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
> eats beets and actually enjoys them?

I love beets so much that I went to Big Lots to get some more of the pickled
ones. I don't eat them often but I like them enough to want to eat them
every day.

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-01-30, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> discovered them on his own after moving out of the house. He especially
>> likes them pickled.
>
> I love 'em. Have since a cannery cook-room mgr took exception to my,
> "I hate beets" statement. He jes walked over to a no. 10 canned beets
> post-cooler line and grabbed a freshly cooked can, opened it, stabbed
> a pickled beet on the end of his pocket knife, presented it to my face
> and sed, "Eat it!" I did. Loved beets ever since. Paricularly good
> with blue cheese dressing.

I've loved them since I was small but prefer them served more simply.
Either straight pickled, boiled or roasted or with onions. I did once make
a recipe that I liked. Might have been Harvard. Had OJ in it. That's all
I remember. I do like them in/on a green salad but prefer no dressing.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> If someone serves them to me I eat them.
>
> I agree with you there, Dave. I won't make them on my own but I'f
> someone serves them to me, I will politely eat them. I won't ask for
> seconds though. :-D

I'll have seconds!

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:46:37 -0500, James Silverton
> wrote:

>On 1/30/2015 12:52 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Opinicus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:34:02 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>
>>>>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>>
>>>>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>>>>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>>
>>>> Actually ... I do ;-)
>>> While I can't stand them boiled or pickled, I do like borscht. I've
>>> seen whole beets oven-roasted on cookery shows but I can't imagine
>>> what they taste like. I suppose the roasting must make them very
>>> sweet.
>>
>> I don't know. I boil them, and then cover them in malt vinegar The
>> only way I like them I see others like pickles using white vinegar
>> but I grew up with malt vinegar and I guess that is what I am used to
>>
>>
>I think freshly boiled beets make a better vinegar pickle but not so
>much so that the fast method of opening a can is out.

Roasted beets are special (if they are nice young freshly harvested
beets) but there's no difference between boiled beets and canned
beets... in fact canned beets are generally younger more perfect beets
than those old beets one finds at the stupidmarket. I've tried
growing beets several times, not easy, they are very prone to larva
damage unless one applies poisons. Boiling beets is very messy, after
boiling they need to be peeled and they typically end up staining
stuff including hands. Canned beets are no work whatsoever, other
than opening the can. Canned beets are uniform, are available in
various formats; whole, sliced, diced, julienned. Canned beets, like
all canned veggies, are more nutritious than any other format. Today
canned veggies are processed in the field within minutes of harvest,
the full compliment of nutrition is in the can... frozen is good too
but not as good as canned, the least nutritious is so-called fresh
from the stupidmarket produce section... which is typically weeks past
harvest and minus at least 50% of it's possible nutrients.
Beets are a very nutritious food and canned is the best method for
obtaining their full value of nutrition. What folks buy at market is
really only fit to slop hogs or the composter. Didja know that the
most nutritious citrus is canned juice or what's harvested and
consumed that day from your own tree.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/2015 12:52 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Opinicus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:34:02 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>
>>>>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>>
>>>>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>>>>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>>
>>>> Actually ... I do ;-)
>>> While I can't stand them boiled or pickled, I do like borscht. I've
>>> seen whole beets oven-roasted on cookery shows but I can't imagine
>>> what they taste like. I suppose the roasting must make them very
>>> sweet.
>>
>> I don't know. I boil them, and then cover them in malt vinegar The
>> only way I like them I see others like pickles using white vinegar
>> but I grew up with malt vinegar and I guess that is what I am used to
>>
>>
> I think freshly boiled beets make a better vinegar pickle but not so much
> so that the fast method of opening a can is out.

Ahh I don't see canned beetroot. I only see jars of pickled but they are
usually in white vinegar so I prefer to do my own. I do grow them but they
we can buy them fresh in the veg department of our supermarkets.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:50:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>> >> > LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>> >> > eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>> >>
>> >> Actually ... I do ;-)
>> >
>> > I won't criticize that. If you like them, power to you.
>> >
>> > Also, since you cannot find clams....what the hell country doesn't
>> > offer canned, frozen or fresh clams? You can at least order canned
>> > ones from Amazon.
>> >
>> > Since it's such a pain in the butt there in Scotland, I'd suggest
>> > buying a can of premade clam chowder just to see if you like it. If
>> > you do, make your own and it will be better. Progresso makes a decent
>> > version. Amazon will sell you that too.
>> >
>> > Do you not have seafood markets nearby that can find anything that you
>> > request?
>>
>> I still haven't seen clams
>
> Use cockles.

I don't see cockles any more either.

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
>> > How great is that !
>> > I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
>> > problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
>> > analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
>> > As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
>> > eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
>> > (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and nuts.
>> > So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things without any
>> > of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for ingredients. I
>> > appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a rut about feeding
>> > us and complying with the list.
>> > Thanks
>> > Janet US
>>
>
>> You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods. I
>> think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
>> microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange the
>> chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>
> Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side. Works
> better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few minutes.

What? Nachos don't have dip!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I take my time to arrange the
>> > chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>>
>> Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side. Works
>> better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few minutes.
>
> No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and you
> have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.

Not if you do them right. I've never had soggy nachos.
>
> I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
> Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each scoop.
> :-D

You don't scoop nachos. They are a baked dish.

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > I take my time to arrange the
> > > chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
> >
> > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
> > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
> > minutes.
>
> No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and you
> have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.
>
> I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
> Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each scoop.
> :-D

Yup. Works nicely and you can take your time munching while not
needing a spoon or something for the end bits.



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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
> > cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> I take my time to arrange the
> >>> chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
> > >
> > > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
> > > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
> > > minutes.
> >
> > No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and you
> > have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.
>
> Not if you do them right. I've never had soggy nachos.

Your very description shows you have them soggy. It's impossible to
add the cheese to the chips and not have them get soggy in fairly short
order.

> >
> > I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
> > Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each scoop.
> > :-D
>
> You don't scoop nachos. They are a baked dish.

OMG. You do not bake the chips in the oven with the dip part. You'd
need a *spoon* to eat them.

Carol



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On 1/30/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > wrote:

>> Cockles were a basic food in coastal areas of Scotland since prehistoric
>> times - but in many areas in the latter part of the last century,
>> foreign fishing boats came in and scraped up vast quantities of them,
>> not leaving enough for natural regeneration.
>>
>> When I was a child, I remember going down at low tide with a rake, and
>> filling my bucket with them. But after the Spanish fishing fleet invaded
>> the Kyle there there were no more cockles to be found
>> There have been a few attempts to 'reseed' the area, and eventually
>> there may be enough for local people to once again harvest them.
>
> Someone needs to start farming them, which will mean local jobs.
>
There's an oyster farm out in the Kyle, but not many jobs connected to it.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
> >>> How great is that !
> >>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
> >>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
> >>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
> >>> As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
> >>> eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
> >>> (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and
> nuts. >>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things
> without any >>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for
> ingredients. I >>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a
> rut about feeding >>> us and complying with the list.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Janet US
> > >
> >
> > > You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods.
> > > I think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
> > > microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange
> > > the chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
> >
> > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
> > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
> > minutes.
>
> What? Nachos don't have dip!

Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
cheese.

Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
1

Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.



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On 01/29/2015 04:13 PM, Janet B wrote:

>
> I'm ahead of you. I'm doing a pork butt tomorrow with chipotles.
> Janet US
>

LOL! Due to the time zone differences, us Left Coasters got no chance to
stay even, even. It's nice to see somebody take an idea and run with it.

On 01/30/2015 03:38 PM, cshenk wrote:

>
>
> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
> 1
>
> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
>
>
>

*These* are nachos:

<http://www.bomberosnachos.com/files/4713/9394/5473/nachos.JPG>

Tortilla chips, real cheese and sliced pickled jalapeno. Period.

Some people add refried beans, sliced black olives, diced tomatoes,
minced green onions, guacamole, sour cream, salsa, etc., etc., but you
may as well just call it "7 layer dip on tortilla chips".

I've *never* had a side of any kind of dip with nachos.

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:55:54 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
> >
> > GO HALKS! Not really a fan but I hate NE so if I'm going to watch, I'll
> > be hoping for Seattle to win.
>
> Cheryl! Shame on you, you East Coast traitor! This superbowl has
> become East Coast vs West Coast. That has been dividing many of the
> other team fans.
>
> Why do you hate NE? They have been my favorite team for about 10
> years. All of the cheating claims aside, they are one great team.

They aren't "cheating claims." They are cheating facts. If the team's
plane crashed I'd feel sorry for the flight attendants and the pilots.
For a certain time, there were a lot of folks around the country who
disliked the Cowboys, but there were also plenty of non-Texas folks who
admired them. The Patriots aren't like that. Folks like you are in a
pretty small minority. Belichick is a slimeball to the point of being
unseemly.

I won't be watching. I miss football. It's a beautiful game, but the
concussions thing ruined it for me. I quit watching boxing 30+ years ago
for that same reason. I could/can deal with someone being carted off the
field with a broken leg or torn ligament, but repeated brain injuries are
a deal breaker.

--Bryan

On 1/30/2015 11:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> GO HALKS! Not really a fan but I hate NE so if I'm going to watch, I'll
>> be hoping for Seattle to win.
>
> Cheryl! Shame on you, you East Coast traitor! This superbowl has
> become East Coast vs West Coast. That has been dividing many of the
> other team fans.
>
> Why do you hate NE? They have been my favorite team for about 10
> years. All of the cheating claims aside, they are one great team.
>

Yeah, I've laughed over "deflategate" Belichick. He's not fit to be
a coach. He's corrupt and, not just over this.

And no matter how much they suck lately I'll stay a Skins fan and once
they can get rid of Danny boy (maybe with all the stupid mistakes
they're making lately, I'd guess they WANT Dan to sell them). They're
not a bad team, they just make stupid mistakes.

Here's funny article with Bill Nye the science guy.

"This is probably the first in a procession of scientists who will bring
a whole new level of scrutiny to the subject as Super Bowl XLIX week
begins, but Nye, a mechanical engineer who made a name for himself on
TV, said he believes that scientific explanations for how the balls lost
their loft hold no water. €œIm not too worried about Coach Belichick
competing with me,€� Nye said. €œWhat he said didnt make any sense.€�

Instead, Nye told €œGood Morning America€� that he thinks they could have
become deflated only by deliberate, manual means. Thats the opposite
argument Belichick made in a press conference Saturday, when he said
that no one had tampered with the balls, deflating them below the NFLs
12.5 pounds per square inch threshold.

To change the pressure in a ball, Nye said, €œyou need one of these€� and
held up gauge with a needle."

--
ღ.¸¸.œ«*¨`*œ¶
Cheryl

lucretiaborgia wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>>sf wrote:
>>> Use cockles.
>>
>>I don't see cockles any more either.
>
>What's happened to them ? I loooved cockles.

Bwrrrryan loves widdle cockles too.

On 1/30/2015 7:02 PM, wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 1/30/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Cockles were a basic food in coastal areas of Scotland since prehistoric
>>>> times - but in many areas in the latter part of the last century,
>>>> foreign fishing boats came in and scraped up vast quantities of them,
>>>> not leaving enough for natural regeneration.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a child, I remember going down at low tide with a rake, and
>>>> filling my bucket with them. But after the Spanish fishing fleet invaded
>>>> the Kyle there there were no more cockles to be found
>>>> There have been a few attempts to 'reseed' the area, and eventually
>>>> there may be enough for local people to once again harvest them.
>>>
>>> Someone needs to start farming them, which will mean local jobs.
>>>
>> There's an oyster farm out in the Kyle, but not many jobs connected to it.
>
> They used to harvest masses off Portsmouth, have they gone too ?
>
I don't know.

"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/30/2015 7:02 PM, wrote:
>> > wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> Cockles were a basic food in coastal areas of Scotland since
>>>>> prehistoric
>>>>> times - but in many areas in the latter part of the last century,
>>>>> foreign fishing boats came in and scraped up vast quantities of them,
>>>>> not leaving enough for natural regeneration.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a child, I remember going down at low tide with a rake, and
>>>>> filling my bucket with them. But after the Spanish fishing fleet
>>>>> invaded
>>>>> the Kyle there there were no more cockles to be found
>>>>> There have been a few attempts to 'reseed' the area, and eventually
>>>>> there may be enough for local people to once again harvest them.
>>>>
>>>> Someone needs to start farming them, which will mean local jobs.
>>>>
>>> There's an oyster farm out in the Kyle, but not many jobs connected to
>>> it.
>>
>> They used to harvest masses off Portsmouth, have they gone too ?
>>
> I don't know.

The feds just shut down a long established oyster farm in the San Francisco
area. How would a new such farm ever be able to open up? Jobs mean nothing
anymore, just the freebies handed out to buy votes.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:20:10 -0800, Whirled Peas >
wrote:


snip
>
>*These* are nachos:
>
><http://www.bomberosnachos.com/files/4713/9394/5473/nachos.JPG>
>
>Tortilla chips, real cheese and sliced pickled jalapeno. Period.
>
>Some people add refried beans, sliced black olives, diced tomatoes,
>minced green onions, guacamole, sour cream, salsa, etc., etc., but you
>may as well just call it "7 layer dip on tortilla chips".
>
>I've *never* had a side of any kind of dip with nachos.

Yep. That's exactly what I have done for ummmmm -- a long, long time.
I put a layer of chips on a cookie sheet, sprinkle with cheese and
drop a jalapeno on each. Yum
Janet US

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:10:54 -0600, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2015 10:22 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>
>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>
>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>
>I do.

Me too, in just about any way, shape or form.

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

"Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>>
>>
>> Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
>> mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
>>
> Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to taste.

Yeah.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
>>> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
>>> > potatoes...
>>>
>>> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>>> the low-carb diet thing.
>>>
>>> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
>>>
>>
>> Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
>> this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
>> that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
>> because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
>> telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
>> "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
>> mouth).
>
>I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked cauliflower just
>tastes bad!

Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.

I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.

Doris

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> >>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
>> >>> How great is that !
>> >>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
>> >>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
>> >>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
>> >>> As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
>> >>> eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
>> >>> (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and
>> nuts. >>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things
>> without any >>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for
>> ingredients. I >>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a
>> rut about feeding >>> us and complying with the list.
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Janet US
>> > >
>> >
>> > > You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods.
>> > > I think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
>> > > microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange
>> > > the chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>> >
>> > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
>> > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
>> > minutes.
>>
>> What? Nachos don't have dip!
>
> Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
> you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
> cheese.
>
> Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
> they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).
>
> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
> 1
>
> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.

That is not nachos. It's chips and dip. I can't believe that people here
do not know what nachos are! And I don't mean the concession stand type
with the cheese sauce.

Here are an assortment of recipes, some more complicated and involving more
ingredients than others.

http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2...loaded-nachos/

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/stevens-baked-nachos/

http://www.instructables.com/id/Oven-Nachos/

http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html

"Whirled Peas" > wrote in message
...
> On 01/30/2015 03:38 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
>> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
>> 1
>>
>> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
>>
>>
>>
>
> *These* are nachos:
>
> <http://www.bomberosnachos.com/files/4713/9394/5473/nachos.JPG>
>
> Tortilla chips, real cheese and sliced pickled jalapeno. Period.
>
> Some people add refried beans, sliced black olives, diced tomatoes, minced
> green onions, guacamole, sour cream, salsa, etc., etc., but you may as
> well just call it "7 layer dip on tortilla chips".
>
> I've *never* had a side of any kind of dip with nachos.

I've seen the guacamole and sour cream put on the side but just as often
they are put on top.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > cshenk wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>> I take my time to arrange the
>> >>> chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>> > >
>> > > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
>> > > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
>> > > minutes.
>> >
>> > No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and you
>> > have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.
>>
>> Not if you do them right. I've never had soggy nachos.
>
> Your very description shows you have them soggy. It's impossible to
> add the cheese to the chips and not have them get soggy in fairly short
> order.
>
>> >
>> > I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
>> > Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each scoop.
>> > :-D
>>
>> You don't scoop nachos. They are a baked dish.
>
> OMG. You do not bake the chips in the oven with the dip part. You'd
> need a *spoon* to eat them.
>
> Carol

Nonsense. I've been making nachos since I was a kid. Mine are never soggy
and you don't know what you are talking about. I put up the links to prove
it. Here's one again. I'm only putting up the last one which is the most
simple one. Nachos do not have dip!

http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html