On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:32:42 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:29 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
> >> > > mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
> >> > >
> >> > Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to
> >> > taste.
> >>
> >> LOL! I have to agree once again. Mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes
> >> stand alone quite fine. Substitutes are no where near as good, imo.
> >> :-D
> >
> > What do you not understand about carbs and sugar?
>
> I understand carbs and sugar but there is nothing you can do to cauliflower
> to make me want to eat it. I can handle a little bit raw or cooked in a
> soup but otherwise, I just do not like it. There. Eating no cauliflower.
> Even lower carbs!

Nobody has tried to encourage you to eat it, so enjoy your lower
carbs.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:26:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
> >> > the low-carb diet thing.
> >>
> >> I can understand that but don't tell me they are a great substitute.
> >
> > They are excellent.
>
> Very strongly disagree!

When were you appointed to speak for me?

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On 1/29/2015 12:53 PM, Janet B wrote:
> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl. How
> great is that !
> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind. As
> a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not eat.
> Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes (sweet as
> well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and nuts.
> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things without any
> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for ingredients. I
> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a rut about feeding us
> and complying with the list.
> Thanks
> Janet US
>
Happy birthday in advance! Sorry I can't help with food choices.
Those restrictions sound pretty difficult to work with.

Jill

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:51:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:50:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Ophelia wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary" wrote:
> >> >> > LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
> >> >> > eats beets and actually enjoys them?
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually ... I do ;-)
> >> >
> >> > I won't criticize that. If you like them, power to you.
> >> >
> >> > Also, since you cannot find clams....what the hell country doesn't
> >> > offer canned, frozen or fresh clams? You can at least order canned
> >> > ones from Amazon.
> >> >
> >> > Since it's such a pain in the butt there in Scotland, I'd suggest
> >> > buying a can of premade clam chowder just to see if you like it. If
> >> > you do, make your own and it will be better. Progresso makes a decent
> >> > version. Amazon will sell you that too.
> >> >
> >> > Do you not have seafood markets nearby that can find anything that you
> >> > request?
> >>
> >> I still haven't seen clams
> >
> > Use cockles.
>
> I don't see cockles any more either.

Darn!

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On 1/30/2015 6:38 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
> you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
> cheese.
>
> Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
> they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).
>
> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
> 1
>
> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
>
>
Sorry, those aren't nachos. That's just a picture of tortilla chips and
dip.

Jill

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 18:37:46 -0500, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 1/30/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Cockles were a basic food in coastal areas of Scotland since prehistoric
> >> times - but in many areas in the latter part of the last century,
> >> foreign fishing boats came in and scraped up vast quantities of them,
> >> not leaving enough for natural regeneration.
> >>
> >> When I was a child, I remember going down at low tide with a rake, and
> >> filling my bucket with them. But after the Spanish fishing fleet invaded
> >> the Kyle there there were no more cockles to be found
> >> There have been a few attempts to 'reseed' the area, and eventually
> >> there may be enough for local people to once again harvest them.
> >
> > Someone needs to start farming them, which will mean local jobs.
> >
> There's an oyster farm out in the Kyle, but not many jobs connected to it.

Any jobs are better than no jobs. I didn't know Scots were so
unimaginative when it comes to job creation.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:54:34 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

> The feds just shut down a long established oyster farm in the San Francisco
> area. How would a new such farm ever be able to open up? Jobs mean nothing
> anymore, just the freebies handed out to buy votes.

Give it up. The oyster farm could have relocated, but they choose not
to. Businesses come and go. As far as local jobs, the Bay Area is
oozing with them and DISPOSABLE income. Boo Hoo for us.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:38:55 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > "cshenk" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > >
> > >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > >>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
> > >>> How great is that !
> > >>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
> > >>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
> > >>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
> > >>> As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
> > >>> eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
> > >>> (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and
> > nuts. >>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things
> > without any >>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for
> > ingredients. I >>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a
> > rut about feeding >>> us and complying with the list.
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Janet US
> > > >
> > >
> > > > You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods.
> > > > I think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
> > > > microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange
> > > > the chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
> > >
> > > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
> > > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
> > > minutes.
> >
> > What? Nachos don't have dip!
>
> Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
> you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
> cheese.
>
> Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
> they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).
>
> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
> 1
>
> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.

This is what Julie's nachos look like and I agree with the concept.
http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_...501-Nachos.png
Anything else should be served on the side.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
> >> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
> >> > potatoes...
> >>
> >> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
> >> the low-carb diet thing.
> >>
> >> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
> >>
> >
> > Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
> > this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
> > that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
> > because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
> > telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
> > "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
> > mouth).
>
> I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked cauliflower just
> tastes bad!

That's your problem, not mine.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:48:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
> >> mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
> >>
> > Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to taste.
>
> Yeah.

I liked cauliflower when I was a kid, so you have no excuse.

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:26:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> >> jmcquown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes
>> >> > is
>> >> > the low-carb diet thing.
>> >>
>> >> I can understand that but don't tell me they are a great substitute.
>> >
>> > They are excellent.
>>
>> Very strongly disagree!
>
> When were you appointed to speak for me?

What? How is disagreeing with you, speaking for you? *Boggles*

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:38:55 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> >
>> > "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>> > > > ...
>> > >>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
>> > >>> How great is that !
>> > >>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
>> > >>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
>> > >>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
>> > >>> As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
>> > >>> eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
>> > >>> (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and
>> > nuts. >>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things
>> > without any >>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for
>> > ingredients. I >>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a
>> > rut about feeding >>> us and complying with the list.
>> > >>> Thanks
>> > >>> Janet US
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > > You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods.
>> > > > I think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
>> > > > microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange
>> > > > the chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>> > >
>> > > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
>> > > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
>> > > minutes.
>> >
>> > What? Nachos don't have dip!
>>
>> Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
>> you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
>> cheese.
>>
>> Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
>> they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).
>>
>> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
>> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
>> 1
>>
>> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
>
> This is what Julie's nachos look like and I agree with the concept.
> http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_...501-Nachos.png
> Anything else should be served on the side.

No it's not! Those are concession stand type with a cheese sauce.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
>>>> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
>>>> > potatoes...
>>>>
>>>> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>>>> the low-carb diet thing.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
>>> this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
>>> that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
>>> because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
>>> telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
>>> "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
>>> mouth).
>>
>>I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked cauliflower
>>just
>>tastes bad!
>
> Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
> people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
>
> I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
> is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
> maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.

If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:16 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> it. Here's one again. I'm only putting up the last one which is the most
> simple one. Nachos do not have dip!
>
> http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html

No one cares about you and your dumb, nasty cut-n-paste "recipes".

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6,
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>
>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>
>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>
> I love beets so much that I went to Big Lots to get some more of the
> pickled ones. I don't eat them often but I like them enough to want to
> eat them every day.

I hate all types of beets and sweet potatoes, other than that not much else
I don't like. Of course I would eat them if that was all there was to eat,
but fortunately that never has been the case so far.

Cheri

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
>> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
>> > potatoes...
>>
>> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>> the low-carb diet thing.
>>
>> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
>>
>
> Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
> this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
> that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
> because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
> telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
> "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
> mouth).

He obviously has no clue as to how to cook a great deal of things based on
his posts...if he did he would know how to make mashed cauliflower that is
very tasty, as well as many other things, but as you say, he has no
understanding, so he rants.

Cheri

> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>> GO HALKS! Not really a fan but I hate NE so if I'm going to watch, I'll
>> be hoping for Seattle to win.

+100,000!!!

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
eb.com...
> On 1/30/2015 11:55 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>> GO HALKS! Not really a fan but I hate NE so if I'm going to watch, I'll
>>> be hoping for Seattle to win.
>>
>> Cheryl! Shame on you, you East Coast traitor! This superbowl has
>> become East Coast vs West Coast. That has been dividing many of the
>> other team fans.
>>
>> Why do you hate NE? They have been my favorite team for about 10
>> years. All of the cheating claims aside, they are one great team.
>>
>
> Yeah, I've laughed over "deflategate" Belichick. He's not fit to be a
> coach. He's corrupt and, not just over this.
>
> And no matter how much they suck lately I'll stay a Skins fan and once
> they can get rid of Danny boy (maybe with all the stupid mistakes they're
> making lately, I'd guess they WANT Dan to sell them). They're not a bad
> team, they just make stupid mistakes.

Same here with the Raiders, all those years and years and not about to
change now, but they suck badly at this time. :-)

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>>
>>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>>
>>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>
>> I love beets so much that I went to Big Lots to get some more of the
>> pickled ones. I don't eat them often but I like them enough to want to
>> eat them every day.
>
> I hate all types of beets and sweet potatoes, other than that not much
> else I don't like. Of course I would eat them if that was all there was to
> eat, but fortunately that never has been the case so far.

I don't like sweet potatoes. They are not in the hate category like
broccoli. I would eat them if I were starving. If all I had was broccoli,
I would willingly just starve.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:48:56 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:11:05 PM UTC-6, sf wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cauliflower whizzed in the food processor substitutes nicely for
>> >> mashed potato and butternut squash subs for sweet potato.
>> >>
>> > Maybe if you are a zillion years old, and have lost the ability to
>> > taste.
>>
>> Yeah.
>
> I liked cauliflower when I was a kid, so you have no excuse.

OMG! You were born old!

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >> > Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
>> >> > flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
>> >> > potatoes...
>> >>
>> >> The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for potatoes is
>> >> the low-carb diet thing.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...uliflower.html
>> >>
>> >
>> > Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the concept by
>> > this time or say they don't like it, don't want to. It's as simple as
>> > that. His opinions are just empty bravado. I don't care what he says
>> > because he's proven time and again that he's the one with TIAD and
>> > telling others they have it is just his way of trying to cover up his
>> > "short comings" (which I suspect isn't limited to the taste in his
>> > mouth).
>>
>> I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked cauliflower
>> just
>> tastes bad!
>
> That's your problem, not mine.

It's not a problem.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:27:27 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> No it's not! Those are concession stand type with a cheese sauce.

Clean your computer screen, I can see un melted grated cheese. The
chips are crap chips, not real tortilla chips, but I'm not wasting
more time finding anything better. Find your own image to post.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:28:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
> >
> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
> > is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
> > maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
>
> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!

You're not the gold standard of what tastes good or even acceptable.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 23:25:15 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/29/2015 12:53 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl. How
>> great is that !
>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind. As
>> a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not eat.
>> Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes (sweet as
>> well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and nuts.
>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things without any
>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for ingredients. I
>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a rut about feeding us
>> and complying with the list.
>> Thanks
>> Janet US
>>
>Happy birthday in advance! Sorry I can't help with food choices.
>Those restrictions sound pretty difficult to work with.
>
>Jill
Thank you!. The potatoes and carrots are a biggy, especially in the
winter. I like to make beef stew and pot roast a couple of times and
I make soups frequently.
Janet US

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:27:27 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> No it's not! Those are concession stand type with a cheese sauce.
>
> Clean your computer screen, I can see un melted grated cheese. The
> chips are crap chips, not real tortilla chips, but I'm not wasting
> more time finding anything better. Find your own image to post.

My screen is fine. Looked like cheese sauce to me.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:28:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
>> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
>> >
>> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
>> > is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
>> > maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
>>
>> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!
>
> You're not the gold standard of what tastes good or even acceptable.

Neither are you!

On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 1:10:29 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:28:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
> >> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
> >> >
> >> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
> >> > is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
> >> > maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
> >>
> >> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!
> >
> > You're not the gold standard of what tastes good or even acceptable.
>
> Neither are you!

http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/wa.../lonelyguy.htm

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:51:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
> \>>
>>> Use cockles.
>>
>>I don't see cockles any more either.
>
> What's happened to them ? I loooved cockles.

I haven't seen any since I was a child. Not sure which they were, but my
friends and I used to go out on Saturday morning and on the way home, we
always called at a fresh fish shop and got a packet of shellfish with a pin
and we used to eat them on the way home

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:51:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:50:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Ophelia wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Gary" wrote:
>> >> >> > LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the
>> >> >> > heck
>> >> >> > eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually ... I do ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > I won't criticize that. If you like them, power to you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, since you cannot find clams....what the hell country doesn't
>> >> > offer canned, frozen or fresh clams? You can at least order canned
>> >> > ones from Amazon.
>> >> >
>> >> > Since it's such a pain in the butt there in Scotland, I'd suggest
>> >> > buying a can of premade clam chowder just to see if you like it. If
>> >> > you do, make your own and it will be better. Progresso makes a
>> >> > decent
>> >> > version. Amazon will sell you that too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you not have seafood markets nearby that can find anything that
>> >> > you
>> >> > request?
>> >>
>> >> I still haven't seen clams
>> >
>> > Use cockles.
>>
>> I don't see cockles any more either.
>
> Darn!

They are just a nice memory from my childhood


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:54:34 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
>
>> The feds just shut down a long established oyster farm in the San
>> Francisco
>> area. How would a new such farm ever be able to open up? Jobs mean
>> nothing
>> anymore, just the freebies handed out to buy votes.
>
> Give it up. The oyster farm could have relocated, but they choose not
> to. Businesses come and go. As far as local jobs, the Bay Area is
> oozing with them and DISPOSABLE income. Boo Hoo for us.

Any jobs are better than no jobs. I didn't know USians were so
unimaginative when it comes to job creation.

;-)


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:13:10 PM UTC-6,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The worst thing to eat is beets.
>>>>
>>>> That sentence, taken out of context, stands alone perfectly well.
>>>
>>> LOL! That's one thing I never eat. Never liked them. Who the heck
>>> eats beets and actually enjoys them?
>>
>> I love beets so much that I went to Big Lots to get some more of the
>> pickled ones. I don't eat them often but I like them enough to want to
>> eat them every day.
>
> I hate all types of beets and sweet potatoes, other than that not much
> else I don't like. Of course I would eat them if that was all there was to
> eat, but fortunately that never has been the case so far.

To each his/her own) If everyone loved something there wouldn't be enough
for those that do like them <g>

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On 1/30/2015 9:54 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message
>>> > > ...
>>> >>> Sunday is my birthday, the Australian Open finals, and Super Bowl.
>>> >>> How great is that !
>>> >>> I want to do some Mexican kinds of snacky things, but I have a
>>> >>> problem. My husband recently had a kidney stone and the stone
>>> >>> analysis showed it to be calcium oxalate -- the most common kind.
>>> >>> As a result he was given a list of high oxalate foods he may not
>>> >>> eat. Beans of any kind are on the 'never' list. So are potatoes
>>> >>> (sweet as well), carrots, leafy greens, chocolate, berries and
>>> nuts. >>> So, does anyone have any ideas for Mexican snacky things
>>> without any >>> of the above? I don't mind cooking or shopping for
>>> ingredients. I >>> appreciate any ideas. I've kind of fallen into a
>>> rut about feeding >>> us and complying with the list.
>>> >>> Thanks
>>> >>> Janet US
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > You could do nachos. Just leave off any of the offending foods.
>>> > > I think they are best to do in the oven but I often do them in the
>>> > > microwave just because it is cheaper. I take my time to arrange
>>> > > the chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
>>> >
>>> > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
>>> > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
>>> > minutes.
>>>
>>> What? Nachos don't have dip!
>>
>> Julie, perhaps you had best describe what you mean by 'nachos' which
>> you now seem to say are baked in the oven with each chip getting some
>> cheese.
>>
>> Please try to get the namesright as whatever the hell you are making,
>> they are either a soggy mess or arent nachos (apt to be both problems).
>>
>> http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...e-flavored-nac
>> hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=&ws=
>> 1
>>
>> Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
>
> That is not nachos. It's chips and dip. I can't believe that people
> here do not know what nachos are! And I don't mean the concession stand
> type with the cheese sauce.
>
> Here are an assortment of recipes, some more complicated and involving
> more ingredients than others.
>
> http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2...loaded-nachos/
>
> http://allrecipes.com/recipe/stevens-baked-nachos/
>
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Oven-Nachos/
>
> http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html

I know what nachos are here, on the Mexican border and they ARE NOT chip
and dip.

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:28:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
>>> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
>>> >
>>> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
>>> > is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese and
>>> > maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
>>>
>>> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!
>>
>> You're not the gold standard of what tastes good or even acceptable.
>
> Neither are you!

I don't believe any of the posters are, since everyone has different tastes
no gold standard for anyone but themselves when it comes to what's
acceptable or tastes good..

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:28:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> >
>>>> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
>>>> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
>>>> >
>>>> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend it
>>>> > is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream cheese
>>>> > and
>>>> > maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
>>>>
>>>> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!
>>>
>>> You're not the gold standard of what tastes good or even acceptable.
>>
>> Neither are you!
>
> I don't believe any of the posters are, since everyone has different
> tastes no gold standard for anyone but themselves when it comes to what's
> acceptable or tastes good..

Exactly!


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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"Gary" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> cshenk wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>> I take my time to arrange the
> >>>>> chips so that they all have some cheese on them.
> >>> >
> >>> > Try putting the dip in a center bowl and the chips to the side.
> >>> > Works better and you don't get soggy nasty chips after a few
> >>> > minutes.
> > > >
> >>> No kidding! I do the same. Putting cheese, etc on the chips and
> you >>> have a soggy mess before you are halfway through the stuff.
> > >
> > > Not if you do them right. I've never had soggy nachos.
> >
> > Your very description shows you have them soggy. It's impossible to
> > add the cheese to the chips and not have them get soggy in fairly
> > short order.
> >
> > > >
> >>> I put any cheese, chili, salsa, sour cream, whatever on the side.
> >>> Chips are in a separate pile. I like a crunchy chip with each
> scoop. >>> :-D
> > >
> > > You don't scoop nachos. They are a baked dish.
> >
> > OMG. You do not bake the chips in the oven with the dip part.
> > You'd need a spoon to eat them.
> >
> > Carol
>
> Nonsense. I've been making nachos since I was a kid. Mine are never
> soggy and you don't know what you are talking about. I put up the
> links to prove it. Here's one again. I'm only putting up the last
> one which is the most simple one. Nachos do not have dip!
>
> http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html

Julie, 1/2 of those aren't 'nachos' and are baked with the chips in as
you do and will need a spoon. The rest bake the 'dip' and serve the
chips on the side as the others are saying to do.

Even baking just with cheese makes them soggy. It doesnt matter that
you can find 'a wbsite that does that'. Most places make pretty
looking and nasty wet chip nachos like those.
Carol

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Miss Kitty wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:16 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > it. Here's one again. I'm only putting up the last one which is
> > the most simple one. Nachos do not have dip!
> >
> > http://www.md-health.com/How-To-Make...s-In-Oven.html
>
> No one cares about you and your dumb, nasty cut-n-paste "recipes".

It's a little scarey that the concept doesnt even sink in.

I do have a rather nice and simple nacho recipe. It's nothing to go
screaming home over since it's really common except I mexican it up a
bit and down play the tex mex part.


1 TS (or more to taste) of comino seed (cumin seed)
1/2 TS sesame seed
2 TS sichimi (Japanese blend of chile, orange peel, hemp seed and poppy
seed)

Mix with meat then

Brown 1/2lb ground pork and 1/2lb beef to just barely pink and set aside

Take 3 cups beans cooked (normally black beans or a mix of black,
kidney and whatever else is handy) and mash (it's ok to use a can at
need but will need 2 total I think. Mine are made from dry so I have
to think about that). Warm these to soft and stir in 1/3 cup beef or
pork broth until they are just a bit easier to spoon up. Mix in black
pepper and garlic salt to that layer.

Layer a glass pan with beef, then grated cheese, then bean then later
rinse and repeat keeping layers fairly thin yet distinct. Top with
large blocks of velveeta and bake until it melts through. Remove and
top with fresh iceburg lettuce and black olives. Serve with chips.
Some add sour cream at the top too if you like. Don likes to add some
simple jarred salsa to it over the lettuce.

Like I said, nothing to scream home about. A common recipe.

A big difference is I can hand type that with no link.

Call me silly but there is nothing wrong with the occasional link.
I've done it to ask if someone had any better ideas when plotting
something for example.

Julie seems to not understand her 'toppings' would be better in a side
bowl and used to dip the chips into. In all honesty though, thats a
common failing.



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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:54:34 -0800, "Pico Rico"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The feds just shut down a long established oyster farm in the San
> > > Francisco area. How would a new such farm ever be able to open
> > > up? Jobs mean nothing anymore, just the freebies handed out to
> > > buy votes.
> >
> > Give it up. The oyster farm could have relocated, but they choose
> > not to. Businesses come and go. As far as local jobs, the Bay
> > Area is oozing with them and DISPOSABLE income. Boo Hoo for us.
>
> Any jobs are better than no jobs. I didn't know USians were so
> unimaginative when it comes to job creation.
>
> ;-)

They aren't. SF bay is so nasty, with polution, you can't safely farm
clams there anymore. The Chesapeake Bay however is recovering well
after over cropping for decades.

Blue crabs here also are so populous they crawl out to find a free spot
practially, because we have had commercial limits on them for decades
so are not over culled.

Carol

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Whirled Peas wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 01/30/2015 03:38 PM, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-8171...heese-flavored
> > -nac
> > hos-with-guacamole-sauce-based-on-avocado-and-tomato-salsa.html?src=
> > &ws= 1
> >
> > Proper way to keep them from getting soggy.
> >
> >
> >
>
> These are nachos:
>
> <http://www.bomberosnachos.com/files/4713/9394/5473/nachos.JPG>
>
> Tortilla chips, real cheese and sliced pickled jalapeno. Period.
>
> Some people add refried beans, sliced black olives, diced tomatoes,
> minced green onions, guacamole, sour cream, salsa, etc., etc., but
> you may as well just call it "7 layer dip on tortilla chips".
>
> I've never had a side of any kind of dip with nachos.

Ok, thise are not going to get soggy.

What is meant by 'dip' isnt like sour cream and cheese but the basic
beef/bean/sauce/cheese stuff that is thick and gloopy.



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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:34:16 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"sf" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:12 -0500, jmcquown
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 1/29/2015 9:17 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>>>> Cauliflower is all about its texture, it hasn't much
> >>>>> flavor. That's why some TIADers attempt to make it into mashed
> >>>>> potatoes...
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason some people use mashed cauliflower as a sub for
> > > > > potatoes is the low-carb diet thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.escapefromobesity.net/201...s-vs-cauliflow
> > > > > er.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don't waste your breath. Those who don't understand the
> > > > concept by this time or say they don't like it, don't want to.
> > > > It's as simple as that. His opinions are just empty bravado.
> > > > I don't care what he says because he's proven time and again
> > > > that he's the one with TIAD and telling others they have it is
> > > > just his way of trying to cover up his "short comings" (which I
> > > > suspect isn't limited to the taste in his mouth).
> > >
> > > I understand the concept and I still don't like it. Cooked
> > > cauliflower just tastes bad!
> >
> > Cooked cauliflower tastes pretty good to me, and I suspect a lot of
> > people feel the same. I particularly like it with cheese sauce.
> >
> > I sometimes make mashed cauliflower, but I'm not trying to pretend
> > it is a potato substitute. When I mash it, I add in some cream
> > cheese and maybe some carmelized onion. It's quite delicious.
>
> If that is good then I don't want to know what you think tastes bad!

Julie, your culinary expertise is about zero hence your comment of
little use.

Meantime, carmelized onion in steamed califlower whizzed with a little
cream cheese is pretty good sounding.



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On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 3:50:05 AM UTC-8, Ophelia wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:51:46 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>"sf" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > \>>
> >>> Use cockles.
> >>
> >>I don't see cockles any more either.
> >
> > What's happened to them ? I loooved cockles.
>
> I haven't seen any since I was a child. Not sure which they were, but my
> friends and I used to go out on Saturday morning and on the way home, we
> always called at a fresh fish shop and got a packet of shellfish with a pin
> and we used to eat them on the way home
>

So now I wonder what sweet Molly Malone sings as she wheels her wheel
barrow through the streets broad and narrow. Maybe a US import?
"Singing quahogs*, and mussels, alive-alive-oh"
*pronounced "cow-hawks"