What's wrong with rfc
 

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 9:57:29 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>
> > Looks plenty fancy to me... has lots of new features that weren't
> > available when I bought my GE Profile stove nearly 20 years ago. I'm
> > sure you'll enjoy it, good luck!
>
> Thank you, I have a GE profile gas cooktop which I do love and it's been
> very dependable. I have had a Fridgidaire oven which I bought new 14 years
> ago, never cared much for it because it was hard to use for me, but I admit
> I did a really stupid thing a few months ago, yes stupid. I was using one of
> those silicone oven liners and turned it on to self-clean while forgetting
> to take the liner out. What a mess, so I don't think it actually worked
> right after that, and finally just gave up the ghost. My fault I think.
>
> Cheri

I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven. That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!

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On 2015-02-20 23:11:48 +0000, notbob said:

> Seems like the few remaining regulars are no longer interested in
> cooking.

What I think is wrong with rfc is that all the substantive exchanges
seem to come buried in topics with wholly misleading names.
"Yesterday's Spaghetti" has a discussion of growing your own herbs,
which herbs shouldn't never be used in spaghetti (you idiot), and off
to other pastas, other idiots, mechancially de-seeding olives and
finishing with competing olive tapenade recipes.

Similarly there may be great discussions inside "Squash Biscuit", "OT:
Walmart" or "Julie Sux". Even higher likelihood it is a spat between
any number of combatants sounding curiously similar to the last 12
spats among them.

So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
good part.

Damn you Usenet! Damn you!
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster

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"dsi1" > wrote in message news:89b653c7-35d6-420b-aa2a-

I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a wall
oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven. That's
just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost more than a
fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!

======

Thank you. I don't like the fact that they are more expensive than a whole
stove, but wall oven is what was here when I moved in, and replaced it
fourteen years ago, now once again. Being a geezer myself, I hope it lasts
for my lifetime. LOL

Cheri

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:19:02 -0800, Glutton > wrote:

>On 2015-02-20 23:11:48 +0000, notbob said:
>
>> Seems like the few remaining regulars are no longer interested in
>> cooking.
>
>What I think is wrong with rfc is that all the substantive exchanges
>seem to come buried in topics with wholly misleading names.
>"Yesterday's Spaghetti" has a discussion of growing your own herbs,
>which herbs shouldn't never be used in spaghetti (you idiot), and off
>to other pastas, other idiots, mechancially de-seeding olives and
>finishing with competing olive tapenade recipes.
>
>Similarly there may be great discussions inside "Squash Biscuit", "OT:
>Walmart" or "Julie Sux". Even higher likelihood it is a spat between
>any number of combatants sounding curiously similar to the last 12
>spats among them.
>
>So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
>entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
>good part.
>
>Damn you Usenet! Damn you!

No you are not forced to read any post that you don't want or any
poster that you don't like. Use a program that lets you ignore any
poster or topic you do not want to read. Out of the 3 that you
mentioned, I only saw 1, and only read part of it.

Makes life on rfc much nicer. On the other hand, you don't have to
read rfc.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> "Judy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 2:53:44 PM UTC-9, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The group really needs an influx of new people and to get back on
>>> >> topic.
>>> >> Unfortunately, USENET is dying. The few new people that have
>>> >> stumbled
>>> >> in here do not stay.
>>> >>
>>> >> We really need to do some recruiting. We also have to welcome new
>>> >> participants and make it a more friendly environment.
>>> >
>>> > I was one that disappeared from the group for quite awhile, as just
>>> > thought it was so darned mean-spirited, and got so bored, and no
>>> > longer enjoyed it. was coming here less, so figured why not just
>>> > "abandon ship".
>>> >
>>> > One day recently I thought I would try again, so checked it out
>>> > and posted in a few threads, but it was the same old...same old,
>>> > and really the atmosphere seemed so toxic and it really hadn't
>>> > changed at all.
>>> >
>>> > I enjoy talking about cooking and trading recipes, and also
>>> > getting information and cooking tips. The back-biting is plain
>>> > ridiculous, and I must not be the only one that thought that, as
>>> > a lot of the people that were posting here have vanished. This
>>> > could be a good group if everybody would "play nice" and learn
>>> > to show respect to others. Too bad, so sad.
>>> >
>>> > I've been active on Usenet for 15 years, and have heard since
>>> > the beginning it was a dying thing. Sort of the same scenario as the
>>> > world is dying, IMO?
>>>
>>> You don't surprise me, Judy. I am very sorry you have been driven away
>>> :(
>>
>>
>> No one is "driven away", Ms. O, peeps choose to leave or stay of their
>> own accord ...
>
> Perhaps some people are not able to cope with the vindictive posts here.

Indeed. I left here once for about two years because I just couldn't take
it all. And then I came back when it looked like things had calmed down
some. It is now getting bad again.

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On 2/24/2015 1:21 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:89b653c7-35d6-420b-aa2a-
>
> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a
> wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven.
> That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost
> more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>
> ======
>
> Thank you. I don't like the fact that they are more expensive than a
> whole stove, but wall oven is what was here when I moved in, and
> replaced it fourteen years ago, now once again. Being a geezer myself, I
> hope it lasts for my lifetime. LOL
>
> Cheri

You're one lucky geezer!

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lucretiaborgia wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:21:37 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"dsi1" > wrote in message news:89b653c7-35d6-420b-aa2a-
>>
>>I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a wall
>>oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven. That's
>>just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost more than a
>>fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>>
>>======
>>
>>Thank you. I don't like the fact that they are more expensive than a whole
>>stove, but wall oven is what was here when I moved in, and replaced it
>>fourteen years ago, now once again. Being a geezer myself, I hope it lasts
>>for my lifetime. LOL
>>
>>Cheri
>
>Not to toss cold water but name any appliance that lasts these days

My fridge and stove have lasted 20 years and I suspect they'll last
another 20 years. My microwave is 30 years old and still runs fine.
Things don't last when people abuse them. My clothes washer and dryer
are still going strong after 25 years... don't over load them and
they'll last. I'm driving the same vehicle I bought new in 1990.
Depends on the person, with many people all they need do is touch
something and it dies... many people can't flush a toilet lest they
break the mechinism. Don't get me started on zippers.

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:10:09 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Judy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 2:53:44 PM UTC-9, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> The group really needs an influx of new people and to get back on
>>>> >> topic.
>>>> >> Unfortunately, USENET is dying. The few new people that have
>>>> >> stumbled
>>>> >> in here do not stay.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We really need to do some recruiting. We also have to welcome new
>>>> >> participants and make it a more friendly environment.
>>>> >
>>>> > I was one that disappeared from the group for quite awhile, as just
>>>> > thought it was so darned mean-spirited, and got so bored, and no
>>>> > longer enjoyed it. was coming here less, so figured why not just
>>>> > "abandon ship".
>>>> >
>>>> > One day recently I thought I would try again, so checked it out
>>>> > and posted in a few threads, but it was the same old...same old,
>>>> > and really the atmosphere seemed so toxic and it really hadn't
>>>> > changed at all.
>>>> >
>>>> > I enjoy talking about cooking and trading recipes, and also
>>>> > getting information and cooking tips. The back-biting is plain
>>>> > ridiculous, and I must not be the only one that thought that, as
>>>> > a lot of the people that were posting here have vanished. This
>>>> > could be a good group if everybody would "play nice" and learn
>>>> > to show respect to others. Too bad, so sad.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've been active on Usenet for 15 years, and have heard since
>>>> > the beginning it was a dying thing. Sort of the same scenario as the
>>>> > world is dying, IMO?
>>>>
>>>> You don't surprise me, Judy. I am very sorry you have been driven away
>>>> :(
>>>
>>>
>>> No one is "driven away", Ms. O, peeps choose to leave or stay of their
>>> own accord ...
>>
>> Perhaps some people are not able to cope with the vindictive posts here.
>
>Indeed. I left here once for about two years because I just couldn't take
>it all. And then I came back when it looked like things had calmed down
>some. It is now getting bad again.

Good! Maybe you'll leave permanently.

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On 2015-02-24 23:44:52 +0000, The Cook said:

> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:19:02 -0800, Glutton > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-02-20 23:11:48 +0000, notbob said:
>>
>>> Seems like the few remaining regulars are no longer interested in
>>> cooking.
>>
>> What I think is wrong with rfc is that all the substantive exchanges
>> seem to come buried in topics with wholly misleading names.
>> "Yesterday's Spaghetti" has a discussion of growing your own herbs,
>> which herbs shouldn't never be used in spaghetti (you idiot), and off
>> to other pastas, other idiots, mechancially de-seeding olives and
>> finishing with competing olive tapenade recipes.
>>
>> Similarly there may be great discussions inside "Squash Biscuit", "OT:
>> Walmart" or "Julie Sux". Even higher likelihood it is a spat between
>> any number of combatants sounding curiously similar to the last 12
>> spats among them.
>>
>> So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
>> entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
>> good part.
>>
>> Damn you Usenet! Damn you!
>
> No you are not forced to read any post that you don't want or any
> poster that you don't like.

That has nothing to do with my point: You still have to dig through the
whole stinking pile to find, for example, a recipe for tapenade.

> Use a program that lets you ignore any poster or topic you do not want to read.

I do.

> Out of the 3 that you mentioned, I only saw 1, and only read part of it.

A topic header as stated does not indicate the myriad topics in
actually includes. That was the crux of my post. I've already
killfiled every topic that includes "breakfast" or "dessert", for
instance, since I care for neither. Still, every breakfast topic that
winds up in a detailed discussion of grinding one's own sausage
(something I do care about), is lost.

> Makes life on rfc much nicer. On the other hand, you don't have to read rfc.

I said it's a drag to work so hard to find value. Your counter: You
don't have to have value. Satori!
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster

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On 2015-02-25 00:10:09 +0000, Julie Bove said:

> Indeed. I left here once for about two years because I just couldn't
> take it all. And then I came back when it looked like things had
> calmed down some. It is now getting bad again.

To avoid all the misery you repeatedly incur, I recommend:

1) Never engage other people on the topic of yourself, or by extension,
your daughter and her maladies. Stick to food, recipes, sifting, etc.
Don't respond to the rest.

2) Don't respond to advice or recommendations with, "I can't do that
because...". It will knock down the attacks you receive for being
intransigent.

3) For any topic that has turned into a Bove roast, say "Thank you for
your input" and then move on.

Let's test it: Don't respond to my post, as it is only a discussion of
you, not food, nor about "What's wrong with rfc".
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster

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On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-6, Glutton wrote:

>
> So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
> entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
> good part.
>
To me, the wings *are* the "good part."
>
--Bryan

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On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 3:45:25 PM UTC-6, Judy wrote:
> On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 2:53:44 PM UTC-9, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > The group really needs an influx of new people and to get back on topic.
> > Unfortunately, USENET is dying. The few new people that have stumbled
> > in here do not stay.
> >
> > We really need to do some recruiting. We also have to welcome new
> > participants and make it a more friendly environment.
>
> I was one that disappeared from the group for quite awhile, as just
> thought it was so darned mean-spirited, and got so bored, and no
> longer enjoyed it. was coming here less, so figured why not just
> "abandon ship".
>
The other half of "Dumb and Dumber," Julie, didn't abandon ship. Now,
the Washington-Alaska Axis of Stupidity can resume.
>
> Judy

--Bryan

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:52:15 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-6, Glutton wrote:
>
>>
>> So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
>> entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
>> good part.
>>
>To me, the wings *are* the "good part."

Thigh/thigh fillet, wings and even the 'parson's nose' are my
favourite parts. Least favourite is the breast... too dry and bland
for me, generally speaking.

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On 2015-02-25 19:52:15 +0000, Bryan-TGWWW said:

> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 5:19:05 PM UTC-6, Glutton wrote:
>
>>
>> So, as a culinary metaphor, the problem is like being forced to eat the
>> entire chicken, bones and wings and head, if you want to get to the
>> good part.
>>
> To me, the wings *are* the "good part."

I meant feathers.
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster

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On 2/25/2015 8:16 AM, Glutton wrote:
> On 2015-02-25 00:10:09 +0000, Julie Bove said:
>
>> Indeed. I left here once for about two years because I just couldn't
>> take it all. And then I came back when it looked like things had
>> calmed down some. It is now getting bad again.
>
> To avoid all the misery you repeatedly incur, I recommend:
>
> 1) Never engage other people on the topic of yourself, or by extension,
> your daughter and her maladies. Stick to food, recipes, sifting, etc.
> Don't respond to the rest.
>
> 2) Don't respond to advice or recommendations with, "I can't do that
> because...". It will knock down the attacks you receive for being
> intransigent.
>
> 3) For any topic that has turned into a Bove roast, say "Thank you for
> your input" and then move on.
>
> Let's test it: Don't respond to my post, as it is only a discussion of
> you, not food, nor about "What's wrong with rfc".

This is some good advice! I'm adding these to my own posting rules
straightaway! :-)

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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> lucretiaborgia wrote:

> >Not to toss cold water but name any appliance that lasts these days
>
> My fridge and stove have lasted 20 years

My stove is 14 and going strong. My previous Magimix food processor
lasted 30 years of daily use and was still working when I retired it to
someone who uses it for grinding dyes. (I bought the same make and size
again).

I still have a Kenwood handmixer I bought in 1969 and still use to
beat meringue.

Janet UK

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In article <2015022510024886591-nospam@thanksorg>,
says...

> That has nothing to do with my point: You still have to dig through the
> whole stinking pile to find, for example, a recipe for tapenade.

eh? That's what search engines are for.

Janet UK

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dsi1 wrote:
>
> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven. That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!

Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
kitchen too much.

:)

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On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 10:55:36 AM UTC-9, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:


> The other half of "Dumb and Dumber," Julie, didn't abandon ship. Now,
> the Washington-Alaska Axis of Stupidity can resume.
> >
> > Judy
>
> --Bryan

BTW did anyone ever tell you that you wee a
donkey hole?

Too bad someone doesn't throw you over the
ship...without a life preserver JERK! :-p

Judy

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a
>> wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven.
>> That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost
>> more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>
> Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
> pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
> kitchen too much.

Do you need a ladder to reach it? ;-)


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

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On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:28:50 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a
> >> wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven.
> >> That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost
> >> more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
> >
> > Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
> > pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
> > kitchen too much.
>
> Do you need a ladder to reach it? ;-)
>
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

He is just being facetious and pulling your chain. Would you like me to slap him for you? Ahahahaha
=====

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On 2/25/2015 12:23 PM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven. That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>
> Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
> pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
> kitchen too much.
>
> :)
>

That's a great idea. I never liked the wall oven we had because it was
gas and made our kitchen way too hot. When I think about our kitchen,
mostly I think of a hot and stuffy place. Also dark. We changed the
flooring in my dad's house a few years ago and the place got bright. It
was like magic!

Personally, I'm holding out for the roof oven. I need to get more fresh
air!

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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:28:50 PM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a
>> >> wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my
>> >> oven.
>> >> That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost
>> >> more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>> >
>> > Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
>> > pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
>> > kitchen too much.
>>
>> Do you need a ladder to reach it? ;-)
>
> He is just being facetious and pulling your chain. Would you like me to
> slap him for you? Ahahahaha

Oh yes please !!! Be sure to post a vid of it ... ;-)

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

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"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/25/2015 12:23 PM, Gary wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> I new oven is nice. A new wall oven is even better. I grew up using a
>>> wall oven. Now I'm an old geezer and I have to bend over to use my oven.
>>> That's just bass-ackwards. I wanted to get one of those but they cost
>>> more than a fancy range. Have fun with the new toy!
>>
>> Have you ever considered the latest invention? Ceiling oven. They're
>> pretty cool and also keep the heat up high so it doesn't warm up your
>> kitchen too much.
>>
>> :)
>>
>
> That's a great idea. I never liked the wall oven we had because it was gas
> and made our kitchen way too hot. When I think about our kitchen, mostly I
> think of a hot and stuffy place. Also dark. We changed the flooring in my
> dad's house a few years ago and the place got bright. It was like magic!
>
> Personally, I'm holding out for the roof oven. I need to get more fresh
> air!

lol

Mine is an electric double wall oven and I love it;) My kitchen is not at
all dark though ...



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

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On 2015-02-25 21:38:33 +0000, Janet said:

> In article <2015022510024886591-nospam@thanksorg>,
> says...
>
>> That has nothing to do with my point: You still have to dig through the
>> whole stinking pile to find, for example, a recipe for tapenade.
>
> eh? That's what search engines are for.

Only when you know you're looking for a recipe for tapenade. In my case
I'm looking for useful information on the topic of cooking, and am
frustrated that some of it lives buried in threads of endless feuding
and within a subject that bears no relation.

Ah well. That's life. That's usenet. And at least in this one case
it's on-topic.

I'll respond to no more confused suggestions having nothing to do with
my complaint. That you for your input!
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster

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On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:25:11 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:35:47 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, gravesend10
> says...
> >>
> >> lucretiaborgia wrote:
> >
> >> >Not to toss cold water but name any appliance that lasts these days
> >>
> >> My fridge and stove have lasted 20 years
> >
> > My stove is 14 and going strong. My previous Magimix food processor
> >lasted 30 years of daily use and was still working when I retired it to
> >someone who uses it for grinding dyes. (I bought the same make and size
> >again).
> >
> > I still have a Kenwood handmixer I bought in 1969 and still use to
> >beat meringue.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> So do I, my Kenwood is actually two years older than yours and I use
> it less frequently than I did then, but still anytime its needed.
>
> What I intended to mean was that newer appliances do not last. We had
> a whole programme on it recently, planned obsolescence after min. 8-10
> years. During that time if there are problems the service man
> can't/won't fix it, he simply replaces a part. The programme
> suggested we actually change the name from service man :)
>
> If your stove/washer/dryer is over ten years old, they suggested you
> would be foolish to change it for any reason other than that it was
> unfixable because the one you buy now, you'll be lucky if it lasts ten
> years.

Bought all new appliances when we built this house over 10 years ago. So far so good, but I am holding my breath hoping they will not all die at once !!

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On 26/02/2015 8:38 AM, rosie wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:25:11 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:35:47 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, gravesend10
>>> @verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> lucretiaborgia wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Not to toss cold water but name any appliance that lasts these days
>>>>
>>>> My fridge and stove have lasted 20 years
>>>
>>> My stove is 14 and going strong. My previous Magimix food processor
>>> lasted 30 years of daily use and was still working when I retired it to
>>> someone who uses it for grinding dyes. (I bought the same make and size
>>> again).
>>>
>>> I still have a Kenwood handmixer I bought in 1969 and still use to
>>> beat meringue.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> So do I, my Kenwood is actually two years older than yours and I use
>> it less frequently than I did then, but still anytime its needed.
>>
>> What I intended to mean was that newer appliances do not last. We had
>> a whole programme on it recently, planned obsolescence after min. 8-10
>> years. During that time if there are problems the service man
>> can't/won't fix it, he simply replaces a part. The programme
>> suggested we actually change the name from service man :)
>>
>> If your stove/washer/dryer is over ten years old, they suggested you
>> would be foolish to change it for any reason other than that it was
>> unfixable because the one you buy now, you'll be lucky if it lasts ten
>> years.
>
> Bought all new appliances when we built this house over 10 years ago. So far so good, but I am holding my breath hoping they will not all die at once !!
>
Don't hold your breath too long - you might die too:-)
Graham

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lucretiaborgia wrote:
>
>The dishwasher sometimes doesn't sound so good, if anything is going
>to go, I think that will be the first. I'd be sorry because I picked
>it because it's so quiet.

It usually costs a lot less to have a noisy appliance checked and
serviced before it stops working... might just be a worn belt, not an
expensive repair, but when a belt lets go it can cause serious damage
to other parts, can destroy linkages and wire harnesses... may rip a
hose causing major flood damage. I'd not use that dishwasher before
you have a service tech check it out... I promise it's not going to
repair itself by ignoring it, it will get worse. And generally
replacement belts and hoses are a better quality than factory
installed... if while the tech is there making repairs I suggest you
ask him to replace the hoses with heavy duty ones. When I bought my
new dishwasher I had it installed by the Maytag guy, the tech asked if
I wanted him to swap the factory hoses for heavy duty hoses, for $30 I
agreed to pay for the kit, I could easily see the difference in hoses,
the originals looked like cheap garden hoses, the new ones were
stainless steel belted, a no brainer. The tech didn't want the
factory hoses, he suggested I put them in the trash, I did. So far
it's been ten years, the Maytag dishwasher works perfectly. New
appliances are like new automobiles, the manufacturer uses the
cheapest components; crap tires, two year batteries, micky mouse
belts/hoses, the least expensive brake pads, every component designed
to last just as long as the warranty... even the windshield wipers
fall apart before a year. If you paid good money for your dishwasher
and it's making weird noises call the tech now.

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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
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>
> Very nice but the formatting is the shits.
> Don't fret...I will redo them all for my records.
>
> Thanks...


Welcome, the formatting is the one most importable by all recipe
softwares of note. MealMaster original. Freeware now but i paid for a
copy years ago.




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Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2015-02-20 18:53, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > And....!!!!! .... Oxtails were on sale for $3.99/lb, which is
> > > the best I have seen around here in years. Even better..... they
> > > were big ones with lots of meat on them. I got enough for two
> > > batches of oxtail stew.
> >
> > Oh! Good on the ox tail. I have one place with that price here but
> > the stock is not regular. When they sell out, oh well. Sometimes
> > they have the smaller cuts (cheaper, can be as low as 2.99) but
> > there isnt much you can do with the end bits that you can't do with
> > normal beef bone best i can tell.
> >
> > What is your recipe for ox-tail stew? I don't really have a recipe
> > really for them. Kitchen sink sort of soup thing here so anything
> > goes.
> >
> It's not so much a recipe as a process. Brown the pieces with a bit
> of oil and then set them aside while you saute onion. celery, carrot
> and musroom. Deglaze with wineor beer, add some beef broth and cook
> them in a covered pot in a 300F stove for a couple hours. Let them
> cool and refrigerate overnight. The next day you remove the hefty
> layer of congealed fat and heat up, thicken sauce as much as required.

It's ok, I'm enough of a cook to follow it fine from that.

I make this here with daikon added as well but I tend to cut large here
and remove once cooked and replace with small fresh bits for a 10
minute or so reheat.

My spicing varies with what is added but tends over all to a Japanese
chile mix. It;s not very hot but has layered flavors we like.

Carol

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