State in western India enacts 5-year sentence
for possession or sale of beef.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...for-possession

On 3/9/2015 7:46 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> State in western India enacts 5-year sentence
> for possession or sale of beef.
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...for-possession
>
Why can't people ever learn?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

Can they eat pork?

On 3/9/2015 7:46 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> State in western India enacts 5-year sentence
> for possession or sale of beef.
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...for-possession
>
The cows aren't worth eating; they are skin and bones, wandering around
starving because "God" will take care of them. (Yep, just like with
people.) See that first photo in your article? They have cow shelters.
In the US we have animal shelters but they mostly involve dogs and cats.

<said facetiously> Sure, it's better to just let them go without food,
because they're "sacred". Oh, please, don't feed them, fatten them up
and let people actually have something to eat.

Ridiculous.

Jill

On 3/12/2015 5:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> <said facetiously> Sure, it's better to just let them go without food,
> because they're "sacred". Oh, please, don't feed them, fatten them up
> and let people actually have something to eat.
>
> Ridiculous.
>
> Jill

From what I know of India, there are many vegetarians. It is more
efficient to eat the veggies and grains to sustain your life than to
feed them to an animal and turn them into meat.

Don't recall where I saw it, but they also use cow urine to bless a new
house too. Sprinkled in the doorway.

On 2015-03-12, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Don't recall where I saw it, but they also use cow urine to bless a new
> house too. Sprinkled in the doorway.

I saw documentary about how Indian milk producers tried to take bovine
milk production out of the hands of the local farmers and model the
industry around USA methods. It was a major disaster. The docu went
on to explain how the milk industry thought it was relieving the
locals of their having to deal with the animal husbandry of raising
milk cows. But! ...it turned out they locals also lost all the other
benefits of having their cows at hand.

Turns out the locals did all kindsa things with the by-products of
their cattle. They literally plastered their homes with cow crap!
Strangely, when it dried, it cut the fly population from the plague
that existed when the cows were gone, to the almost no fly population
when they could plaster with the excrement. Perhaps the urine
accomplished some different task other than tradition, too. Seems
counter intuitive to me, but I'm not real knowledgable on cow-dy
doody.

nb

On 2015-03-12 09:57:14 +0000, jmcquown said:

> On 3/9/2015 7:46 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> State in western India enacts 5-year sentence
>> for possession or sale of beef.
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...for-possession
>>
>>
> The cows aren't worth eating; they are skin and bones, wandering around
> starving because "God" will take care of them. (Yep, just like with
> people.) See that first photo in your article? They have cow
> shelters. In the US we have animal shelters but they mostly involve
> dogs and cats.
>
> <said facetiously> Sure, it's better to just let them go without food,
> because they're "sacred". Oh, please, don't feed them, fatten them up
> and let people actually have something to eat.
>
> Ridiculous.
>
> Jill

The beef taboo in India is no different than the pork and
non-scaly-seafood taboos that Muslims and Jews share, or the horse, dog
and cat meat taboos that many European (and Anglo) cultures observe.

The poverty in rural India certainly isn't caused by the lack of
quality beef anyway.

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:35:05 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Don't recall where I saw it, but they also use cow urine to bless a new
> house too. Sprinkled in the doorway.
>
Which means that some unfortunate person has the task of positioning a
bucket underneath the cow to collect the urine. Dalits?

--Bryan

The hormone drug Premarin is made from pregnant mare's urine.

On 2015-03-16 1:47 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

> The beef taboo in India is no different than the pork and
> non-scaly-seafood taboos that Muslims and Jews share, or the horse, dog
> and cat meat taboos that many European (and Anglo) cultures observe.



Actually, it is quite different. Jews have a taboo on pork because it
is considered to be unclean. Hindus do not eat cows because they are
thought to be a higher form of reincarnation.

On 3/16/2015 9:06 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-03-16 1:47 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>
>> The beef taboo in India is no different than the pork and
>> non-scaly-seafood taboos that Muslims and Jews share, or the horse, dog
>> and cat meat taboos that many European (and Anglo) cultures observe.
>
>
>
> Actually, it is quite different. Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> is considered to be unclean. Hindus do not eat cows because they are
> thought to be a higher form of reincarnation.
>
>
Moslems seem to eat shrimps if the local Halal meat store and Kebab
house is anything to go by.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:

> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> is considered to be unclean.

No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
>> is considered to be unclean.
>
> No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
Graham

--

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:24:30 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
>>> is considered to be unclean.
>>
>> No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
>>
>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>
>The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
>mists of time. They are certainly illogical.

Um, ALL religious rituals are illogical.

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:24:30 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> >> is considered to be unclean.
> >
> > No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
> >
> > http://www.richardfisher.com
> >
> The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
> mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
> Graham
>
> --

They seem perfectly logical to me. Used to be that a pork chop could kill you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybZtDx6tAU

In article >, says...
>
> On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> >> is considered to be unclean.
> >
> > No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
> >
> > http://www.richardfisher.com
> >
> The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
> mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
> Graham

So are, eternal virgin mothers whose virginity survived vaginal
delivery;
and a fish supper takeaway that stretched to feed 5,000.

Janet UK

On 3/16/2015 1:56 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
>>>> is considered to be unclean.
>>>
>>> No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
>>>
>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>
>> The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
>> mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
>> Graham
>
> So are, eternal virgin mothers whose virginity survived vaginal
> delivery;
> and a fish supper takeaway that stretched to feed 5,000.

Tho the reason given is supposed to be respect for God, the Kosher rules
are pretty good health precautions. Without refrigeration in the early
days, contaminated shellfish could kill you. I don't know why Halal and
Kosher disagree on shrimp.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 12:48:49 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:24:30 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> > On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> > > On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> > >> is considered to be unclean.
> > >
> > > No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
> > >
> > > http://www.richardfisher.com
> > >
> > The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
> > mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
>
Their function was to make it difficult for "God's* people to assimilate.
>
> > Graham
>
> They seem perfectly logical to me. Used to be that a pork chop could kill you.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybZtDx6tAU
>
Cute, but thoroughly cooked pork was never dangerous.

--Bryan

On 3/16/2015 2:59 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 12:48:49 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:24:30 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>> On 16/03/2015 10:01 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jews have a taboo on pork because it
>>>>> is considered to be unclean.
>>>>
>>>> No. Nothing to do with cleanliness.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>
>>> The real reasons for all those prohibitions are presumably lost in the
>>> mists of time. They are certainly illogical.
>>
> Their function was to make it difficult for "God's* people to assimilate.
>>
>>> Graham
>>
>> They seem perfectly logical to me. Used to be that a pork chop could kill you.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eybZtDx6tAU
>>
> Cute, but thoroughly cooked pork was never dangerous.
>
> --Bryan
>

I'm guessing those biblical microwave ovens and pressure cookers did a
thoroughly wonderful job at cooking the shit out of pork.

On 3/16/2015 8:59 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:

>>
> Cute, but thoroughly cooked pork was never dangerous.
>
> --Bryan
>

Not the factory made stuff. Fifty and more years ago when hogs were fed
raw garbage trichinosis was a possibility. The pork was also much
fattier and could take the higher temperatures it was cooked to.

James Silverton wrote:
>
> Moslems seem to eat shrimps if the local Halal meat store and Kebab
> house is anything to go by.

It depends on which tradition is followed.
Some do, some don't.

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 9:06:55 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-03-16 1:47 AM, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
>
> > The beef taboo in India is no different than the pork and
> > non-scaly-seafood taboos that Muslims and Jews share, or the horse, dog
> > and cat meat taboos that many European (and Anglo) cultures observe.

> Actually, it is quite different. Jews have a taboo on pork because it
> is considered to be unclean. Hindus do not eat cows because they are
> thought to be a higher form of reincarnation.

Taboo is adhering to common sense and cleanliness? Do you think it's just a coincidence why you rarely hear of foodborne illness in Kosher meats? Kosher is cool, clean, fit. That's why all the best cuts are left for Kosher, and we leave the tookus for the Goyim. LOL! Are you aware that millions of Gentiles buy Kosher? Actually shell fish is considered worse than pork in Judaism. It's literally the bottom of the barrel when it comes to filth. As that famous scene goes in Pulp Fiction: "Are you Jewish?...Nah, I ain't Jewish - I just dig on swine that's all...Pork chops tastes good..bacon tastes good...Hey sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I ain't gonna eat anything that roots in its own feces." eh -D, "I believe that eating pork makes people stupid!" eh - DAVID STEINBERG (actor, comedian, filmmaker, sweet Canuckian-Jew).."Outside of Israel, New York is the world's largest manufacturer and consumer of Kosher foods, accounting for $3 billion of the $6 billion U.S. market for Kosher foods. Gentile consumers account for 70% of the $6 Billion dollars worth of Kosher food sold in the US each year. In 1915, the nation's first Kosher tax law was also passed in NY." - KOSHERWISE