On 2015-03-23 19:26, jinx the minx wrote:

>> Aparagus is sold in bundles where I live in the USA, too. And I'm not
>> talking about a "discount grocery store" (whatever that may be).
>>
>> Jill
>
> I bought asparagus for dinner tonight, actually. It was sold in a bundle,
> but priced by weight at $3.59 per pound.
>


That was what struck me about this deal. Only once or twice have I seen
it loose.... sold by the pound. It is normally sold in bundles but by
the pound, each bundle roughly a pound. This was the only time I ever
saw it sold in bundles with a set price per bundle.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> wrote:

>On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from the
>> >> >phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
>> >>
>> >> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
>> >> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
>> >> collect that data.
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
>> >> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...
>> >
>> >
>> >Huh, well, I have no way of knowing. I have many apps on my phone and I have no evidence of anyone gathering any info though I'm not naive enough to think they don't.
>> >
>> >My latest one was developed by Ellen Degeneris called "Heads Up' and I'm sure she is not the least bit interested in my personal info.
>> >
>> >Nellie
>>
>>
>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>
>> In-app purchases
>> Identity
>> find accounts on the device
>> Photos/Media/Files
>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>> read the contents of your USB storage
>> Camera
>> take pictures and videos
>> Microphone
>> record audio
>> Other
>> full network access
>> view network connections
>
>
>Hmmm, not sure about this, but since I live in the hotbed of app designers, it will be easy to find out.
>
>My USB storage, whaaaat?
>
>Nellie

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....headsup&hl=en

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from the
> >> >> >phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
> >> >> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
> >> >> collect that data.
> >> >>
> >> >> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
> >> >> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Huh, well, I have no way of knowing. I have many apps on my phone and I have no evidence of anyone gathering any info though I'm not naive enough to think they don't.
> >> >
> >> >My latest one was developed by Ellen Degeneris called "Heads Up' and I'm sure she is not the least bit interested in my personal info.
> >> >
> >> >Nellie
> >>
> >>
> >> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
> >>
> >> In-app purchases
> >> Identity
> >> find accounts on the device
> >> Photos/Media/Files
> >> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
> >> read the contents of your USB storage
> >> Camera
> >> take pictures and videos
> >> Microphone
> >> record audio
> >> Other
> >> full network access
> >> view network connections
> >
> >
> >Hmmm, not sure about this, but since I live in the hotbed of app designers, it will be easy to find out.
> >
> >My USB storage, whaaaat?
> >
> >Nellie
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....headsup&hl=en

I'm wondering why you posted this >boggle> I have this, I know what it is.

Nellie

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:02:20 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:15:50 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Here they sell asparagus bundled with a couple rubberbands but still
>> they are weighed at the check out... as I'm shopping I snap the
>> bottoms off, why pay for compost.
>
>Cheapskate. You're supposed to peel the ends of asparagus to get the
>best value. Or if you're too lazy to do that you could feed those
>asparagus stems to the deer. When they're bunched up like that you're
>expected to buy the whole package.
>
>Do you peel the oranges before you buy them, too? That would make
>more sense than breaking off the asparagus since orange peels are
>nearly useless.
>
>-sw

I post these things to hook tunas like you, dwarf... and I never
fail... you're so simple... at least unlike you I don't stuff garlic
into the TP rolls. LOL-LOL
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> wrote:

>On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from the
>> >> >> >phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
>> >> >> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
>> >> >> collect that data.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
>> >> >> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Huh, well, I have no way of knowing. I have many apps on my phone and I have no evidence of anyone gathering any info though I'm not naive enough to think they don't.
>> >> >
>> >> >My latest one was developed by Ellen Degeneris called "Heads Up' and I'm sure she is not the least bit interested in my personal info.
>> >> >
>> >> >Nellie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>> >>
>> >> In-app purchases
>> >> Identity
>> >> find accounts on the device
>> >> Photos/Media/Files
>> >> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>> >> read the contents of your USB storage
>> >> Camera
>> >> take pictures and videos
>> >> Microphone
>> >> record audio
>> >> Other
>> >> full network access
>> >> view network connections
>> >
>> >
>> >Hmmm, not sure about this, but since I live in the hotbed of app designers, it will be easy to find out.
>> >
>> >My USB storage, whaaaat?
>> >
>> >Nellie
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....headsup&hl=en
>
>I'm wondering why you posted this >boggle> I have this, I know what it is.
>
>Nellie

Scroll down, under Additional Information, Permissions, click view
details. It tells you what the app has access to.
Janet US

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:53:13 PM UTC-7, Janet B wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:46:43 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:21:17 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 4:55:59 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from the
> >> >> >> >phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
> >> >> >> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
> >> >> >> collect that data.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
> >> >> >> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Huh, well, I have no way of knowing. I have many apps on my phone and I have no evidence of anyone gathering any info though I'm not naive enough to think they don't.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >My latest one was developed by Ellen Degeneris called "Heads Up' and I'm sure she is not the least bit interested in my personal info.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Nellie
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
> >> >>
> >> >> In-app purchases
> >> >> Identity
> >> >> find accounts on the device
> >> >> Photos/Media/Files
> >> >> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
> >> >> read the contents of your USB storage
> >> >> Camera
> >> >> take pictures and videos
> >> >> Microphone
> >> >> record audio
> >> >> Other
> >> >> full network access
> >> >> view network connections
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hmmm, not sure about this, but since I live in the hotbed of app designers, it will be easy to find out.
> >> >
> >> >My USB storage, whaaaat?
> >> >
> >> >Nellie
> >>
> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....headsup&hl=en
> >
> >I'm wondering why you posted this >boggle> I have this, I know what it is.
> >
> >Nellie
>
> Scroll down, under Additional Information, Permissions, click view
> details. It tells you what the app has access to.
> Janet US


Ah, ok, will do. Thanks, Janet.

Nellie

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 5:12 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>>> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>>> My coupon book!
>
>> Maybe she thought it was an empty cart and someone left the coupon book
>> in it? I have seen people leave coupons in carts for others to use at
>> supermarkets. Probably not, but just a thought.
>
> I can understand why you'd consider that, except Ron said
> she totally took a guilty look and scooped it up and made
> off with it. All furtive-like.
>
> I trust his judgement on that, he knows what he saw, just
> not enough to recognize her again. She didn't walk up like
> hey, look, a coupon book! and pause, it's like she scoped it
> out and made off with it.
>
> He thought it was weird but hey, it doesn't have any value.
> He just waited for me to show up and said You don't need that
> coupon book, do you? Heh.
>
> nancy

LOL, yeah a furtive look and getting away quickly makes it pretty much a
theft. I had to laugh when you said your dh didn't say anything to her, same
with my dh when a woman walking her dog stopped and let the dog poop in our
yard, and then hurried on. He was out there but he said he was so surprised
with the nerve of her that he didn't say anything.

Cheri

On 3/23/2015 7:16 PM, Nellie wrote:
> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:56:15 PM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:

>> I hope they found a way to put a stop to that. They probably
>> couldn't do much unless they had her on surveillance. I'm glad
>> you clued them in.

> Yeah, me too. Once I watched a woman peeling tangerines and feeding
> them to her kids right there in produce. She must have seen me staring
> and put out her hand with a few slices in them and offered them to me.
> Whoa, no sense of wrong-doing at all.
>

Geez. I saw a woman feed her toddler a cup of soup from the shelf.
Maybe in styrofoam type of packaging. Then she put the empty back
on the shelf with the other ones so you wouldn't notice until you
picked it up. I actually went back and checked because I didn't
trust my eyes. Yup, empty soup container on the shelf.

She had a cart full of stuff so I don't think it was the act of
a desperate mom or anything. She just didn't feel the need to
pay for in-store dining.

nancy

On 3/23/2015 11:00 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> I can understand why you'd consider that, except Ron said
>> she totally took a guilty look and scooped it up and made
>> off with it. All furtive-like.
>>
>> I trust his judgement on that, he knows what he saw, just
>> not enough to recognize her again. She didn't walk up like
>> hey, look, a coupon book! and pause, it's like she scoped it
>> out and made off with it.
>>
>> He thought it was weird but hey, it doesn't have any value.
>> He just waited for me to show up and said You don't need that
>> coupon book, do you? Heh.

> LOL, yeah a furtive look and getting away quickly makes it pretty much a
> theft.

Right? You just know that look, nothing innocent going on
here.

> I had to laugh when you said your dh didn't say anything to her,

It's not as if he's the shy, retiring sort!

> same with my dh when a woman walking her dog stopped and let the dog
> poop in our yard, and then hurried on. He was out there but he said he
> was so surprised with the nerve of her that he didn't say anything.

(laugh) Exactly.

nancy

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:24:15 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>>We went to Costco today, it was remarkably empty, no one
>>in line for gas, not too many people in the store. Cool.
>>I was in a hunt to find the steam mop I wanted and left Ron
>>with the cart.
>>
>>He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>>make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>>My coupon book!
>>
>>Why he didn't say anything, I don't know. I think he was just
>>astonished. Bad enough my name and address are on the book,
>>my written shopping list was in there, a good size list.
>>Don't worry, I didn't forget to get the bananas. Heh.
>>
>>Good thing my bag wasn't in there, we be sealing the entrance.
>>Thief on the loose.
>>
>>nancy
>
> Weird thing is that you do not need the coupons there at all. In all
> the years I have shopped there, I was never denied a sale price
> because I did not have the book. For a while hey wanted you to show an
> app on your phone, but that lasted about 3 months, then they just went
> back to automatically granting the sales price.
>
> Missing shopping lists are something else altogether,of course. Cause
> for war.
>
> Boron

I am confused about the coupons. At one point, I was told that they only
needed one coupon. Once they had scanned just one from that coupon book,
you didn't need another one until the next book came out. But that was
several years ago. Now the coupons usually say that they are clipless. I
think the business center is an exception. But I'm not sure because I
didn't use any of those.

In article >, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I
> asked stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to
> leave her dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it
> must have slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.

I guess I'm offended. Actually, I am. She should have kicked the scat
off the trail and moved on. Trails self clean boots. There's no plastic
bag to ruin the environment. When I had dogs, I was a scat-kicker on
well used trails.

leo

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 7:24 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> We went to Costco today, it was remarkably empty, no one
>> in line for gas, not too many people in the store. Cool.
>> I was in a hunt to find the steam mop I wanted and left Ron
>> with the cart.
>>
>> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>> My coupon book!
>>
>> Why he didn't say anything, I don't know. I think he was just
>> astonished. Bad enough my name and address are on the book,
>> my written shopping list was in there, a good size list.
>> Don't worry, I didn't forget to get the bananas. Heh.
>>
>> Good thing my bag wasn't in there, we be sealing the entrance.
>> Thief on the loose.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood. :-)

I was shocked to see that you can't use a debit card at the Grocery Outlet
in Everett without providing I.D. The cashier said they'd been getting
stolen debit cards. We also have what they have dubbed "The Birthday Cake
Bandit". A blonde haired woman who has stealing mother's credit cards. She
started out hanging out in school parking lots and waiting for women to
leave their purse in their vehicle. Now why people do this is beyond me! I
would never leave a purse in a car unless someone else was sitting in there
and wasn't going to leave. I have run into a store quickly and only took my
wallet if my daughter or mom agreed to sit there with the purse. Anyway...
She is using the stolen card to buy gas, junk food and cake. Always cake!

Oh and... My next door neighbor got his claw footed bathtub stolen!
Granted he did leave it outside. He's the one who is taking next to forever
to finish the house remodel. He had tools stolen as well. I predicted a
long time ago that tools would be stolen. I did mention to his wife that
work trucks need to be secured because the man who owned the house prior had
been robbed of his tools. But they didn't listen. I kept seeing work
trucks sitting open and tools laying all over, not being watched.

One day they put a sign up stating that there is a security cam on the
premises. This after a window was broken. I assumed they had been robbed
as well. But perhaps not. Because there had been no crime report listed on
the Snohomish county crime map and now there is.

A really long time ago, a Pods storage unit appeared in the driveway. I
have no clue what is in it and if they are moving stuff in or out. Then a
claw footed bathtub appeared between it and the house. Appeared to be
vintage and that seemed weird. I know that it didn't come out of the house.
These houses were built in the 1980's and the only tub that was in there was
identical to the one in my husband's bathroom. So they must have been
intending to put the tub into the house. But why they left it sitting
outside like that is beyond me.

They obviously don't pay a lot of attention to things. There has been a
water leak over there for a really long time. At one point, they did clean
up the mud it created but didn't fix the leak. Then I noticed a large note
tacked to their front door. I wanted to go read it but didn't want to trek
across the mud and unmown grass to get to it.

But the next day? I noticed a blue tarp in what appears to be the yard next
door and some digging and missing piles on either side of the water main.
So clearly someone fixed a leak. It is all put back now. I have no clue
where that property line is or whose meter that would be. I only see the
one. I don't see another one. But there still appears to be a leak in that
yard next door. But I digress.

The day of the robbery, I actually looked over there to see if the tub was
still there. And it was. I have no clue what possessed me to look either,
but I did. So that would have been around 3-4:00 p.m. on Sat. And
somewhere between then and dinner time on Sun., the robbery occurred. I
have been told that claw footed tubs weigh a ton. So how did the robber get
that tub across all of that mud? Or maybe there was actually enough mud and
water there by then that they could have just slid it to the street. But
then how did they get it in the getaway vehicle? I have no clue.

It was pretty funny though when my husband came in yesterday to tell us
about it. He was all freaked out. Neighbor got his bathtub stolen! I'm
sure he had no clue that the guy was stupid enough to have left it outside.
He probably thinks the robber went in and took it out of the house. Heh.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:02:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:28:05 -1000, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/23/2015 7:24 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> We went to Costco today, it was remarkably empty, no one
>>>> in line for gas, not too many people in the store. Cool.
>>>> I was in a hunt to find the steam mop I wanted and left Ron
>>>> with the cart.
>>>>
>>>> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>>>> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>>>> My coupon book!
>>>>
>>>> Why he didn't say anything, I don't know. I think he was just
>>>> astonished. Bad enough my name and address are on the book,
>>>> my written shopping list was in there, a good size list.
>>>> Don't worry, I didn't forget to get the bananas. Heh.
>>>>
>>>> Good thing my bag wasn't in there, we be sealing the entrance.
>>>> Thief on the loose.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood. :-)
>>
>>This is proof she lives in a good neighborhood. If it was a bad
>>neighborhood people wouldn't steal stuff out of your cart for fear of
>>getting shot.
>>
>>-sw
>
> Did you see the Arizona Walmart thing this a.m.?
> Janet US

I did.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:22:34 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:02:28 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>This is proof she lives in a good neighborhood. If it was a bad
>>>neighborhood people wouldn't steal stuff out of your cart for fear of
>>>getting shot.
>>
>> Did you see the Arizona Walmart thing this a.m.?
>
> Walmart always brings out the best in people. And they shouldn't
> letting people camp out in their cars in the parking lot for days on
> end. Or is that a new service they offer?

I didn't know about the cars. I do know that you can do it with actual
campers.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 3/23/2015 2:24 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:24:15 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Why he didn't say anything, I don't know. I think he was just
>>>> astonished. Bad enough my name and address are on the book,
>>>> my written shopping list was in there, a good size list.
>>
>>> Weird thing is that you do not need the coupons there at all. In all
>>> the years I have shopped there, I was never denied a sale price
>>> because I did not have the book. For a while hey wanted you to show an
>>> app on your phone, but that lasted about 3 months, then they just went
>>> back to automatically granting the sales price.
>>
>> For a long time I would have to hand them the coupons to get the
>> price (hello, I'm a member, see the card? Why do I have to clip
>> coupons?), then I learned if you gave them one coupon, all the sale
>> prices would ring up.
>>
>> Then they finally went to the clipless coupons but you had to
>> show the book (or your app). Day 1 I asked the cashier Do I
>> really need to bring my book? No. She just laughed.
>>
>> Frankly, I think I only brought the book because it had my list
>> in there and it wouldn't get lost that way. so much for that.
>>
>>> Missing shopping lists are something else altogether,of course. Cause
>>> for war.
>>
>> Right? (laugh) Those big stores, I walk in and immediately
>> forget half the stuff I needed. Hence, the. list.
>
> Without a list, I have to go down each aisle to look at everything to see
> if I need it I keep my list on my phone these days, that way I am sure
> to have it with me.

I hate having to keep my phone out. I have to do that with mobile coupons
and they are a PITA. I don't normally even use my phone for the Cartwheel
app. I try to remember to print if off before I leave. I just find a piece
of paper so much easier and quicker to use than the phone. I will sometimes
print a list off from the computer, especially if I am buying from several
different stores in one trip.

When I do paper lists, I can put stuff on the list in the order in which it
appears in the store. Makes it much easier and if I am going just
specifically for what is on the list then I don't have to go up and down
every aisle.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-03-23 5:46 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> He thought it was weird but hey, it doesn't have any value.
>> He just waited for me to show up and said You don't need that
>> coupon book, do you? Heh.
>>
>
> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I asked
> stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to leave her
> dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it must have
> slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.

I had an incident at Grocery Outlet. I had a shopping cart, had come to the
end of an aisle and was turning the corner. I don't move super fast the way
it is and I don't think I was speeding around the corner or anything but out
of nowhere appeared this young Asian woman who was speeding. She almost
collided with my cart. I had to jerk it back so that I didn't hit her. She
put her hands up in a defensive fashion, made a disgusted sounding noise and
gave me a dirty look. I just opened my eye wide and said, "Sorry". Then
she looked at me like I should be! Sheesh.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-03-23 1:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> We went to Costco today, it was remarkably empty, no one
>> in line for gas, not too many people in the store. Cool.
>> I was in a hunt to find the steam mop I wanted and left Ron
>> with the cart.
>>
>> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>> My coupon book!
>>
>> Why he didn't say anything, I don't know. I think he was just
>> astonished. Bad enough my name and address are on the book,
>> my written shopping list was in there, a good size list.
>> Don't worry, I didn't forget to get the bananas. Heh.
>>
>> Good thing my bag wasn't in there, we be sealing the entrance.
>> Thief on the loose.
>>
> There are lots of honest, law abiding citizens who may not be aware that
> there are a lot of thieves around. People are warned not to leave
> valuables unattended in carts.
>
> A couple years ago I was in a discount grocery store in Niagara Falls and
> I spotted a woman pulling a fast one with bundles of asparagus. It is the
> only time I have ever seen asparagus sold by the bundle rather than by the
> pound. She would grab two bundles of asparagus and then very deftly
> remove about 1/3 of the spears from one bundle and slip them into the
> other and then return the small one to the bunker. She did that with a
> number of them. I dropped a dime on her on the way out, telling the
> cashier what I had seen and leaving a description of the woman... the only
> Phillippino in the store.

I can't tell you how many times I have seen women leave their purse in the
shopping cart and walk off. Or their coupon stash. The other stupid thing
they will do is to leave their purse or wallet in the car in plain sight or
put it in the trunk and enter the store. They're always shocked when the
thing gets stolen. How could it have happened? It was in the trunk! Quite
often they don't even bother to lock the vehicle and you can almost always
open the trunk from inside the vehicle. Or the crook will just smash a
window. They don't care what damage they do!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 5:45 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:37:30 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> A couple years ago I was in a discount grocery store in Niagara Falls
>>> and I spotted a woman pulling a fast one with bundles of asparagus. It
>>> is the only time I have ever seen asparagus sold by the bundle rather
>>> than by the pound.
>>
>> It's usually sold in bundles in Aus.
>>
>>
> Aparagus is sold in bundles where I live in the USA, too. And I'm not
> talking about a "discount grocery store" (whatever that may be).

Pretty sure it's usually sold that way here too. Although I haven't bought
any in a while.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 5:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-03-23 1:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>>> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>>> My coupon book!
>
>> A couple years ago I was in a discount grocery store in Niagara Falls
>> and I spotted a woman pulling a fast one with bundles of asparagus. It
>> is the only time I have ever seen asparagus sold by the bundle rather
>> than by the pound. She would grab two bundles of asparagus and then
>> very deftly remove about 1/3 of the spears from one bundle and slip them
>> into the other and then return the small one to the bunker.
>
> That would bug the hell out of me. And it's obvious she's been
> getting away with it for who knows how long since she had the
> process down pat.
>

I saw all sorts of things when I worked at K Mart. They would put things in
purses, coolers, luggage... They would put tiny things like a necklace
inside of a sock or the pocket of a pair of pants. Small flat things like
greeting cards could be tucked into the pages of a book or magazine. We
learned to squeeze, shake it out or open it up.

But the most blatant thing I have seen is at salad and food bars. Daughter
and I were shocked to see a guy pick up a hard boiled egg at Whole Foods,
apply salt and pepper then eat it while shopping. However, there is
something on their website that says they do allow sampling. You are
supposed to ask first and I didn't see him ask. Apparently they will even
give you a full sized product if you ask. They did give us something once.
Some sort of frozen treat. I didn't ask but the cashier asked me if it was
good. And when I told her that we hadn't tried it, she said we could try it
for free and report back to her. Then I never saw her again.

At Central Market, I am constantly seeing people take the little plastic
containers intended for salad dressing, nuts, seeds, etc., then filling them
with stuff from the salad and cold food bars and sampling. I don't think
they're supposed to be doing that.

"Nellie" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:56:15 PM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 3/23/2015 5:37 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > On 2015-03-23 1:24 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>> >> He stepped away look look at something and caught a woman
>> >> make a sneaky move and stole the only thing in the cart!
>> >> My coupon book!
>>
>> > A couple years ago I was in a discount grocery store in Niagara Falls
>> > and I spotted a woman pulling a fast one with bundles of asparagus. It
>> > is the only time I have ever seen asparagus sold by the bundle rather
>> > than by the pound. She would grab two bundles of asparagus and then
>> > very deftly remove about 1/3 of the spears from one bundle and slip
>> > them
>> > into the other and then return the small one to the bunker.
>>
>> That would bug the hell out of me. And it's obvious she's been
>> getting away with it for who knows how long since she had the
>> process down pat.
>>
>> > She did that
>> > with a number of them. I dropped a dime on her on the way out,
>> > telling
>> > the cashier what I had seen and leaving a description of the woman...
>> > the only Phillippino in the store.
>>
>> I hope they found a way to put a stop to that. They probably
>> couldn't do much unless they had her on surveillance. I'm glad
>> you clued them in.
>>
>> nancy
>
>
> Yeah, me too. Once I watched a woman peeling tangerines and feeding them
> to her kids right there in produce. She must have seen me staring and put
> out her hand with a few slices in them and offered them to me. Whoa, no
> sense of wrong-doing at all.

Some stores here allow that. Whole Foods has a bin of fruit that kids can
have for free. But PCC goes a step further. Kids ages 12 and under get a
free serving of fruit or vegetables of their choice. If they want a serving
from a larger item like a pineapple or melon, all they have to do is ask the
person working in that department and it will be cut for them. Angela
usually chose an apple but sometimes she would get vegetables.

I have seen people stripping things off of fruits and vegetables though when
they were paying by the pound. Such as the peel from oranges. I haven't
seen that happen often but a few times.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 7:16 PM, Nellie wrote:
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:56:15 PM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I hope they found a way to put a stop to that. They probably
>>> couldn't do much unless they had her on surveillance. I'm glad
>>> you clued them in.
>
>> Yeah, me too. Once I watched a woman peeling tangerines and feeding
> > them to her kids right there in produce. She must have seen me staring
> > and put out her hand with a few slices in them and offered them to me.
> > Whoa, no sense of wrong-doing at all.
>>
>
> Geez. I saw a woman feed her toddler a cup of soup from the shelf.
> Maybe in styrofoam type of packaging. Then she put the empty back
> on the shelf with the other ones so you wouldn't notice until you
> picked it up. I actually went back and checked because I didn't
> trust my eyes. Yup, empty soup container on the shelf.
>
> She had a cart full of stuff so I don't think it was the act of
> a desperate mom or anything. She just didn't feel the need to
> pay for in-store dining.

I saw that sort of stuff all the time when I worked for the Inventory
company. I guess the moms always thought that I wouldn't do anything about
it because I didn't work for the store. I did try to report a woman once
but the manager didn't care. That was at a Safeway.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:15:50 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> Here they sell asparagus bundled with a couple rubberbands but still
>> they are weighed at the check out... as I'm shopping I snap the
>> bottoms off, why pay for compost.
>
> Cheapskate. You're supposed to peel the ends of asparagus to get the
> best value. Or if you're too lazy to do that you could feed those
> asparagus stems to the deer. When they're bunched up like that you're
> expected to buy the whole package.
>
> Do you peel the oranges before you buy them, too? That would make
> more sense than breaking off the asparagus since orange peels are
> nearly useless.

Au contraire! Probably my favorite food, right up there with beans is
candied orange peel. Last time I had any was at least a year ago. I bought
a small amount at Central Market.

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>
>>I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from the
>>phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
>
> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
> collect that data.
>
> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...

Gosh! I thought that since I don't actually log in to the net ...
Still, I can't see that anyone would be too interested in my list of veg
etc Is one able to tell?


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On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:10:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2015-03-23 5:46 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> He thought it was weird but hey, it doesn't have any value.
>>> He just waited for me to show up and said You don't need that
>>> coupon book, do you? Heh.
>>>
>>
>> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
>> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
>> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I asked
>> stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to leave her
>> dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it must have
>> slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.
>
>I had an incident at Grocery Outlet. I had a shopping cart, had come to the
>end of an aisle and was turning the corner. I don't move super fast the way
>it is and I don't think I was speeding around the corner or anything but out
>of nowhere appeared this young Asian woman

What's the relevence of her being Asian?

>who was speeding. She almost
>collided with my cart. I had to jerk it back so that I didn't hit her. She
>put her hands up in a defensive fashion, made a disgusted sounding noise and
>gave me a dirty look. I just opened my eye wide and said, "Sorry". Then
>she looked at me like I should be! Sheesh.

Sheesh.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:10:31 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2015-03-23 5:46 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> He thought it was weird but hey, it doesn't have any value.
>>> He just waited for me to show up and said You don't need that
>>> coupon book, do you? Heh.
>>>
>>
>> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
>> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
>> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I asked
>> stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to leave her
>> dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it must have
>> slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.
>
>I had an incident at Grocery Outlet. I had a shopping cart, had come to the
>end of an aisle and was turning the corner. I don't move super fast the way
>it is and I don't think I was speeding around the corner or anything but out
>of nowhere appeared this young Asian woman

What's the relevence of her being Asian?

>who was speeding. She almost
>collided with my cart. I had to jerk it back so that I didn't hit her. She
>put her hands up in a defensive fashion, made a disgusted sounding noise and
>gave me a dirty look. I just opened my eye wide and said, "Sorry". Then
>she looked at me like I should be! Sheesh.

Sheesh.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:00:24 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>LOL, yeah a furtive look and getting away quickly makes it pretty much a
>theft. I had to laugh when you said your dh didn't say anything to her, same
>with my dh when a woman walking her dog stopped and let the dog poop in our
>yard, and then hurried on. He was out there but he said he was so surprised
>with the nerve of her that he didn't say anything.

I would have picked the turd up and rubbed it all over her.
And yes, *then* wash my hands.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/23/2015 5:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> Right? (laugh) Those big stores, I walk in and immediately
>>> forget half the stuff I needed. Hence, the. list.
>>
>> Without a list, I have to go down each aisle to look at everything to
>> see if I need it I keep my list on my phone these days, that way I am
>> sure to have it with me.
>
> I think the most I could do with my phone is text myself a list.
>
> I don't have a smart phone. And I don't even carry a phone,
> generally.

Ok then lists it is and nothing wrong with that! I had lists for most of
my life and the only problem with that was forgetting to bring them


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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
>>On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:33:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >I use Out of Milk but I don't use it on line. I use it directly from
>>> >the
>>> >phone. ie I don't have to log into anything, I just open it up.
>>>
>>> If you have it on your phone and you downloaded it and gave it
>>> requested permissions, it has access to things and at some point will
>>> collect that data.
>>>
>>> It doesn't harm you in any way unless it is leaked somehow, and even
>>> then, odds are in your favor nothing will happen...
>>
>>
>>Huh, well, I have no way of knowing. I have many apps on my phone and I
>>have no evidence of anyone gathering any info though I'm not naive enough
>>to think they don't.
>>
>>My latest one was developed by Ellen Degeneris called "Heads Up' and I'm
>>sure she is not the least bit interested in my personal info.
>>
>>Nellie
>
>
> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>
> In-app purchases
> Identity
> find accounts on the device
> Photos/Media/Files
> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
> read the contents of your USB storage
> Camera
> take pictures and videos
> Microphone
> record audio
> Other
> full network access
> view network connections

WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?

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On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Boron Elgar" > wrote

>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>
>> In-app purchases
>> Identity
>> find accounts on the device
>> Photos/Media/Files
>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>> read the contents of your USB storage
>> Camera
>> take pictures and videos
>> Microphone
>> record audio
>> Other
>> full network access
>> view network connections
>
> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?

Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
functions?

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>
>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>
>>> In-app purchases
>>> Identity
>>> find accounts on the device
>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>> Camera
>>> take pictures and videos
>>> Microphone
>>> record audio
>>> Other
>>> full network access
>>> view network connections
>>
>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>
> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
> functions?

I think Boron might be able to tell us?

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On 2015-03-24 12:18 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:

>> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
>> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
>> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I
>> asked stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to
>> leave her dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it
>> must have slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.
>
> I guess I'm offended. Actually, I am. She should have kicked the scat
> off the trail and moved on. Trails self clean boots. There's no plastic
> bag to ruin the environment. When I had dogs, I was a scat-kicker on
> well used trails.
>

That works for me. I was impressed with the walking trails in Sweden.
The keep the grass mowed on on side and let it grow high on the other.
People curb their dogs into the long grass to do their business. There
is large wildlife park a few miles from me with about 10 miles of hiking
trails running through it. Dogs must be on leash and they insist on you
picking up the dog crap. There are hundreds of deer, coyotes, raccoons,
turkeys and other animals dropping their business everywhere. I find it
hard to believe that the make a significant addition to the wild feces.
The domestic animals stand a great chance of picking up nasties from
the feral feces than the other way around.

On 3/24/2015 8:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>
>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>
>>>> In-app purchases
>>>> Identity
>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>> Camera
>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>> Microphone
>>>> record audio
>>>> Other
>>>> full network access
>>>> view network connections
>>>
>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>>
>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>> functions?
>
> I think Boron might be able to tell us?

I bet someone here can. Maybe I should get Writing Apps for
Dummies and figure it out for myself.

Perhaps it's like giving someone your house key to do work,
this means they have access to your electronics, your CD
collection, your linen closet ... yeah, it comes with the
territory.

I have a feeling it's not that benign, though.

nancy

On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:40:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>
>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>
>>>> In-app purchases
>>>> Identity
>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>> Camera
>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>> Microphone
>>>> record audio
>>>> Other
>>>> full network access
>>>> view network connections
>>>
>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>>
>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>> functions?
>
>I think Boron might be able to tell us?

There are often two reasons why the permissions are requested - one is
to perform the function of the app, the other is to better "flesh out"
you behavioral data to sell it to the highest bidder.

Take Groupon, for example, which is a US app/company that offers up
discounts and coupons for local businesses. It sells your data for 20%
more to advertisers if it is tracking you by GPS on your phone, so the
ads can be more finely targeted. It also pulls your GPS data every 5
minutes to do so. You can go in and turn it off in some cases, Groupon
may be one of them, but it means turning off GPS on your phone
altogether, not just doing so for the app, which does not give you an
option. That GPS data suck can affect battery life in some phones,too.

Again, one could consider it a quid pro quo if what the app does for
you is really somethign you like, but it is also savvy to be aware
just what data the app is sucking up and selling. And once again I say
that this becomes a problem when the company changes its privacy
policy, gets sold to another company or just does not guard its data.

I have seen INDIVIDUAL print outs of data collection from mobile
phones from users who have opted in for some app or program. I could
plot that person's travels during the time frame by lat/long from a
GPS conversion program. I have seen the list of every web site that
person visited, ever bit of music listened to, every phone call made/
received, every photo taken, every email sent, every text MSG in and
out, every app used (includes things like ) - it goes on and on.

Boron

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/24/2015 8:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>>
>>>>> In-app purchases
>>>>> Identity
>>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>>> Camera
>>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>>> Microphone
>>>>> record audio
>>>>> Other
>>>>> full network access
>>>>> view network connections
>>>>
>>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>>>
>>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>>> functions?
>>
>> I think Boron might be able to tell us?
>
> I bet someone here can. Maybe I should get Writing Apps for
> Dummies and figure it out for myself.
>
> Perhaps it's like giving someone your house key to do work,
> this means they have access to your electronics, your CD
> collection, your linen closet ... yeah, it comes with the
> territory.

I hope not

> I have a feeling it's not that benign, though.

Aye

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"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:40:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>>
>>>>> In-app purchases
>>>>> Identity
>>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>>> Camera
>>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>>> Microphone
>>>>> record audio
>>>>> Other
>>>>> full network access
>>>>> view network connections
>>>>
>>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>>>
>>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>>> functions?
>>
>>I think Boron might be able to tell us?
>
> There are often two reasons why the permissions are requested - one is
> to perform the function of the app, the other is to better "flesh out"
> you behavioral data to sell it to the highest bidder.
>
> Take Groupon, for example, which is a US app/company that offers up
> discounts and coupons for local businesses. It sells your data for 20%
> more to advertisers if it is tracking you by GPS on your phone, so the
> ads can be more finely targeted. It also pulls your GPS data every 5
> minutes to do so. You can go in and turn it off in some cases, Groupon
> may be one of them, but it means turning off GPS on your phone
> altogether, not just doing so for the app, which does not give you an
> option. That GPS data suck can affect battery life in some phones,too.
> Again, one could consider it a quid pro quo if what the app does for
> you is really somethign you like, but it is also savvy to be aware
> just what data the app is sucking up and selling. And once again I say
> that this becomes a problem when the company changes its privacy
> policy, gets sold to another company or just does not guard its data.
>
> I have seen INDIVIDUAL print outs of data collection from mobile
> phones from users who have opted in for some app or program. I could
> plot that person's travels during the time frame by lat/long from a
> GPS conversion program. I have seen the list of every web site that
> person visited, ever bit of music listened to, every phone call made/
> received, every photo taken, every email sent, every text MSG in and
> out, every app used (includes things like ) - it goes on and on.

Our GPS is turned off and as for the rest ... this is getting passed on to
Himself who is our techy

Thank you very much, Boron for going to all that trouble. I am very
grateful!

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On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:45:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:40:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In-app purchases
>>>>>> Identity
>>>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>>>> Microphone
>>>>>> record audio
>>>>>> Other
>>>>>> full network access
>>>>>> view network connections
>>>>>
>>>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you off?
>>>>
>>>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>>>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>>>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>>>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>>>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>>>> functions?
>>>
>>>I think Boron might be able to tell us?
>>
>> There are often two reasons why the permissions are requested - one is
>> to perform the function of the app, the other is to better "flesh out"
>> you behavioral data to sell it to the highest bidder.
>>
>> Take Groupon, for example, which is a US app/company that offers up
>> discounts and coupons for local businesses. It sells your data for 20%
>> more to advertisers if it is tracking you by GPS on your phone, so the
>> ads can be more finely targeted. It also pulls your GPS data every 5
>> minutes to do so. You can go in and turn it off in some cases, Groupon
>> may be one of them, but it means turning off GPS on your phone
>> altogether, not just doing so for the app, which does not give you an
>> option. That GPS data suck can affect battery life in some phones,too.
>> Again, one could consider it a quid pro quo if what the app does for
>> you is really somethign you like, but it is also savvy to be aware
>> just what data the app is sucking up and selling. And once again I say
>> that this becomes a problem when the company changes its privacy
>> policy, gets sold to another company or just does not guard its data.
>>
>> I have seen INDIVIDUAL print outs of data collection from mobile
>> phones from users who have opted in for some app or program. I could
>> plot that person's travels during the time frame by lat/long from a
>> GPS conversion program. I have seen the list of every web site that
>> person visited, ever bit of music listened to, every phone call made/
>> received, every photo taken, every email sent, every text MSG in and
>> out, every app used (includes things like ) - it goes on and on.
>
>Our GPS is turned off and as for the rest ... this is getting passed on to
>Himself who is our techy
>
>Thank you very much, Boron for going to all that trouble. I am very
>grateful!

Happy to provide the info.

Again, sometimes there is an app out there that is so appealing that
its data drawbacks are outweighed by its benefits. By all means, then,
go for it.

Boron

On 23/03/2015 9:27 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/23/2015 7:16 PM, Nellie wrote:
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 3:56:15 PM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I hope they found a way to put a stop to that. They probably
>>> couldn't do much unless they had her on surveillance. I'm glad
>>> you clued them in.
>
>> Yeah, me too. Once I watched a woman peeling tangerines and feeding
> > them to her kids right there in produce. She must have seen me staring
> > and put out her hand with a few slices in them and offered them to me.
> > Whoa, no sense of wrong-doing at all.
>>
>
> Geez. I saw a woman feed her toddler a cup of soup from the shelf.
> Maybe in styrofoam type of packaging. Then she put the empty back
> on the shelf with the other ones so you wouldn't notice until you
> picked it up. I actually went back and checked because I didn't
> trust my eyes. Yup, empty soup container on the shelf.
>
> She had a cart full of stuff so I don't think it was the act of
> a desperate mom or anything. She just didn't feel the need to
> pay for in-store dining.
>
> nancy
>
I read an interview with a supermarket manager where he said that he had
spotted a woman take and eat a banana and then leave the peel on a
shelf. So he put it in a paper bag, wrote a price on it and, when she
wasn't looking, slipped it into her cart.
Next time, you do something similar!
Graham
--
Buy a man a beer and he wastes an hour.
Teach a man to brew and he wastes the rest of his life.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:18:42 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>> I have a low tolerance for stuff like that. I would have confronted her.
>> ... like the lady on the walking trail who cleaned up her dog's crap,
>> looked around and then dropped the bag on the edge of the trail. I
>> asked stopped and asked if she thought it was a good idea for her to
>> leave her dog's shit in a bag for someone else to pick up. She said it
>> must have slipped out her hand. Yeah... right.
>
>I guess I'm offended. Actually, I am. She should have kicked the scat
>off the trail and moved on. Trails self clean boots. There's no plastic
>bag to ruin the environment. When I had dogs, I was a scat-kicker on
>well used trails.
>
>leo

On a trail out in the woods why bother to scoop dog poop, that's a
nothing compared to bear poop... as I look out my window now the snow
has pretty much melted and for as far as the eye can see there are
piles of all sorts of critter poop that were frozen in the snow, and
it's still a bit too warm for the ground to thaw... but pretty soon
the temperture will rise so with the next good rain it all disapears
into the ground and becomes natural fertilzer. I can see pooper
scooping on a city sidewalk but in the woods, ridiculous. If I walked
outside now with a shovel I can fill my wheelbarrow with deer poop
etal in 20 minutes. I'm always happy when the birds land on my trees,
I feed them seeds and they fertilize my trees.

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:45:25 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 12:40:33 -0000, "Ophelia"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On 3/24/2015 8:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OH - that Ellen app? This is what it tracks and has access to....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In-app purchases
>>>>>>> Identity
>>>>>>> find accounts on the device
>>>>>>> Photos/Media/Files
>>>>>>> modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
>>>>>>> read the contents of your USB storage
>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>> take pictures and videos
>>>>>>> Microphone
>>>>>>> record audio
>>>>>>> Other
>>>>>>> full network access
>>>>>>> view network connections
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WOW!!! Do you use any apps or does that kind of knowledge put you
>>>>>> off?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, perhaps I'm just paranoid, but the sneaky stuff that apps
>>>>> take it on themselves to access does put me off. I doubt the
>>>>> apps are actually doing half the stuff the terms say they can,
>>>>> but why do they need it? Is all that just a byproduct of being an
>>>>> app or do they deliberately include code that accesses all those
>>>>> functions?
>>>>
>>>>I think Boron might be able to tell us?
>>>
>>> There are often two reasons why the permissions are requested - one is
>>> to perform the function of the app, the other is to better "flesh out"
>>> you behavioral data to sell it to the highest bidder.
>>>
>>> Take Groupon, for example, which is a US app/company that offers up
>>> discounts and coupons for local businesses. It sells your data for 20%
>>> more to advertisers if it is tracking you by GPS on your phone, so the
>>> ads can be more finely targeted. It also pulls your GPS data every 5
>>> minutes to do so. You can go in and turn it off in some cases, Groupon
>>> may be one of them, but it means turning off GPS on your phone
>>> altogether, not just doing so for the app, which does not give you an
>>> option. That GPS data suck can affect battery life in some phones,too.
>>> Again, one could consider it a quid pro quo if what the app does for
>>> you is really somethign you like, but it is also savvy to be aware
>>> just what data the app is sucking up and selling. And once again I say
>>> that this becomes a problem when the company changes its privacy
>>> policy, gets sold to another company or just does not guard its data.
>>>
>>> I have seen INDIVIDUAL print outs of data collection from mobile
>>> phones from users who have opted in for some app or program. I could
>>> plot that person's travels during the time frame by lat/long from a
>>> GPS conversion program. I have seen the list of every web site that
>>> person visited, ever bit of music listened to, every phone call made/
>>> received, every photo taken, every email sent, every text MSG in and
>>> out, every app used (includes things like ) - it goes on and on.
>>
>>Our GPS is turned off and as for the rest ... this is getting passed on to
>>Himself who is our techy
>>
>>Thank you very much, Boron for going to all that trouble. I am very
>>grateful!
>
> Happy to provide the info.
>
> Again, sometimes there is an app out there that is so appealing that
> its data drawbacks are outweighed by its benefits. By all means, then,
> go for it.

You have made me very wary. I doubt will be looking at new apps in the
future. If I do, may I consult you again?


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Jeßus wrote:
>Bove wrote:
>>
>>I had an incident at Grocery Outlet. I had a shopping cart, had come to the
>>end of an aisle and was turning the corner. I don't move super fast the way
>>it is and I don't think I was speeding around the corner or anything but out
>>of nowhere appeared this young Asian woman
>
>What's the relevence of her being Asian?

I wouldn't have noticed her ethnicity, nor would I care,
my eyes would have been firmly focused on her chest...
would have been a full minute before I looked at her face,
and then only for a second.