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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:04:23 PM UTC-7, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> keep hearing that liver and bacon or liver and onions is really good if
> not overcooked. I can only agree that it is not as horrible as the
> suede like stuff my mother tried to foist on me when I was a kid.
>
> I live liverwurst and liver pate. It is not the flavour that I don't
> like. It is the texture.


Lol @ suede like stuff.

Nellie

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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:37:49 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Growing up, grilled cheese was Velveeta on white bread. For years, I
> > never did much else but eventually went to sharp cheese. The evolution
> > continues
> >
> > We had grilled cheese for dinner last night.
> >
> > For the cheese> Cabot extra sharp cheddar and Fontina. Both were grated
> > and then mixed together. You get a better melt that way.
> >
> > For the bread: Sourdough
> >
> > For the process: We have an old Dominion brand combo waffler iron and
> > flat faced grill. I'd guess it is 35 to 40 years old.
> >
> > Lay ot one slice of bread, spread with the cheese mix. Put the other
> > slice on top and instead of butter, I spread a light coat of mayo on it.
> > Flipped it ont he grill, did the other side and closed it. A few
> > minutes later, a nicely toasted bread with gooey melted cheese.
> >
> > I offered variations with ham on it too. The mayo is easier than butter
> > and works well. I'll be using it int he future.
>
>
> I think canola oil stinks when heated and so do a lot of other people.

I think olive oil tastes like paint thinner. What's puzzling to me is that other people don't seem able to taste it.

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On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:15:01 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> > wrote:
>
> > On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 6:37:49 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > >
> > > I think canola oil stinks when heated and so do a lot of other people.
> >
> > I think that it must be genetic. I also find Canola oil nasty, but some
> > folks can't taste it at all.
> >
> I used to be that way about vegetable oil. Haven't used it in
> decades, so I have no idea if I still react to it that way or not.
>
The stuff sold as vegetable oil is soy oil, and that tastes off to me too.
>
> sf

--Bryan

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"tert in seattle" wrote in message
...

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 5:25:44 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
>> Cindy, that needs bacon on your open-faced treats. ;-))
>
> Naw, I'm not one of those people who think bacon makes
> everything better. I love bacon, but prefer to enjoy
> is in its pure state. Or on a BLT. I rarely have bacon
> and cheese in a dish together; my husband's twice-baked
> potatoes is the only thing that comes readily to mind.
>
>you said what I was thinking ... except I do have a soft spot for
>bacon cheeseburgers

I like bacon...by itself, however I don't like to put it on much of anything
including a burger. For me a burger just needs cheese, mayo, onion.

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On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:58:39 PM UTC-4, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:

> I think that it must be genetic. I also find Canola oil nasty, but some
> folks can't taste it at all.

Must be. I can't taste anything when it's cold, but
it smells fishy when heated. So I use canola for
cold stuff (the one or two salad dressings that I make
without extra-virgin olive oil) and peanut oil (which
is pretty expensive) for the little bit of frying that
I do.

I've looked for peanut oil in something besides
the quart bottle from Planter's, but no go. Apparently
we Yankees either don't do enough frying, or we're
happy to use "fryer grease".

Cindy Hamilton

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On 2015-03-30, Dave Smith > wrote:

> I am inclined to agree with him on that. I like burgers. We have them
> once a week. Saturday is hamburger night. I have had them with cheese
> on top, blue cheese inside, with bacon, with bacon and cheese. Now I
> stick to straight burgers. I don't even do cheeseburgers.

A couple decades ago, while I was on a serious burger jag, I ate
burgers 2-3 times per week. EVERY SINGLE TIME! ....I would be asked
by the server/clerk, "Would you like a cheeseburger?" It got so bad I
almost had a custom t-shirt made up, saying:

NO EFFIN CHEESE!!

Fortunately, my burger jag fizzed out b4 I got around to having the
shirt made. ;)

nb

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 01:54:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:37:49 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > Growing up, grilled cheese was Velveeta on white bread. For years, I
>> > never did much else but eventually went to sharp cheese. The evolution
>> > continues
>> >
>> > We had grilled cheese for dinner last night.
>> >
>> > For the cheese> Cabot extra sharp cheddar and Fontina. Both were grated
>> > and then mixed together. You get a better melt that way.
>> >
>> > For the bread: Sourdough
>> >
>> > For the process: We have an old Dominion brand combo waffler iron and
>> > flat faced grill. I'd guess it is 35 to 40 years old.
>> >
>> > Lay ot one slice of bread, spread with the cheese mix. Put the other
>> > slice on top and instead of butter, I spread a light coat of mayo on it.
>> > Flipped it ont he grill, did the other side and closed it. A few
>> > minutes later, a nicely toasted bread with gooey melted cheese.
>> >
>> > I offered variations with ham on it too. The mayo is easier than butter
>> > and works well. I'll be using it int he future.
>>
>>
>> I think canola oil stinks when heated and so do a lot of other people.
>
>I think olive oil tastes like paint thinner. What's puzzling to me is that other people don't seem able to taste it.

Everyone's precise perceptive impression of flavors are slightly,
sometimes radically different.

John Kuthe...

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 02:16:07 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:15:01 AM UTC-5, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:58:34 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 6:37:49 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think canola oil stinks when heated and so do a lot of other people.
> > >
> > > I think that it must be genetic. I also find Canola oil nasty, but some
> > > folks can't taste it at all.
> > >
> > I used to be that way about vegetable oil. Haven't used it in
> > decades, so I have no idea if I still react to it that way or not.
> >
> The stuff sold as vegetable oil is soy oil, and that tastes off to me too.
> >

Thanks.

--

sf

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Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> keep hearing that liver and bacon or liver and onions is really good if
>> not overcooked. I can only agree that it is not as horrible as the
>> suede like stuff my mother tried to foist on me when I was a kid.

"Liver Fingers" was a favorite Navy recipe:
http://www.dvo.com/recipe_pages/deep...ver_Strips.php

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The true name of canola oil is rapeseed oil.

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On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Growing up, grilled cheese was Velveeta on white bread. For years, I
> never did much else but eventually went to sharp cheese. The evolution
> continues
>
> We had grilled cheese for dinner last night.
>
> For the cheese> Cabot extra sharp cheddar and Fontina. Both were grated
> and then mixed together. You get a better melt that way.
>
> For the bread: Sourdough
>
> For the process: We have an old Dominion brand co






mbo waffler iron and
> flat faced grill. I'd guess it is 35 to 40 years old.
>
> Lay ot one slice of bread, spread with the cheese mix. Put the other
> slice on top and instead of butter, I spread a light coat of mayo on it.
> Flipped it ont he grill, did the other side and closed it. A few
> minutes later, a nicely toasted bread with gooey melted cheese.
>
> I offered variations with ham on it too. The mayo is easier than butter
> and works well. I'll be using it int he future.

Elvis ate a lb of cremated bacon every am.

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On 2015-03-31 11:47 AM, wrote:
> The true name of canola oil is rapeseed oil.
>
Actually, the true name is Canadian Oil. The oil comes from rapeseed.

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Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:06:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-03-30 5:58 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:00:47 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 5:25:44 PM UTC-4, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>> Cindy, that needs bacon on your open-faced treats. ;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naw, I'm not one of those people who think bacon makes
>>>>>> everything better. I love bacon, but prefer to enjoy
>>>>>> is in its pure state. Or on a BLT. I rarely have bacon
>>>>>> and cheese in a dish together; my husband's twice-baked
>>>>>> potatoes is the only thing that comes readily to mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> you said what I was thinking ... except I do have a soft spot for
>>>>> bacon cheeseburgers
>>>>
>>>> Bacon to hide the taste of your liver burgers... normal people would
>>>> no more put bacon and cheese on a good burger than on a good
>>>> porterhouse.
>>>
>>> have another drink!
>>>
>>
>>I am inclined to agree with him on that. I like burgers. We have them
>>once a week. Saturday is hamburger night. I have had them with cheese
>>on top, blue cheese inside, with bacon, with bacon and cheese. Now I
>>stick to straight burgers. I don't even do cheeseburgers.
>
> I grind my own so I don't want to hide the flavor of good meat... when
> freshly ground s n'p is all, when they've been frozen is when I may
> drown it in fried onions. In summer grilled home grown tomato slices
> are good on burgers, so are grilled eggplant slices. I don't like to
> load a lot of things on a burger, I don't ever put cheese on a burger.
> And the roll is important, none of those packaged burger buns for me,
> a good hard roll and a freshly ground rare burger needs nothing else.
> For the life of me I can't figure out why so many will eat that
> preground mystery meat, yik.


blah blah blah

I grind my own meat, idiot

and the evidence for no cheese & beef?

I ate beef carpaccio this weekend -- delicious

ever heard of a reuben? philly cheesesteak? LASAGNA?

moron

have another drink!

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 7:58:39 PM UTC-4, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>
> > I think that it must be genetic. I also find Canola oil nasty, but some
> > folks can't taste it at all.
>
> Must be. I can't taste anything when it's cold, but
> it smells fishy when heated. So I use canola for
> cold stuff (the one or two salad dressings that I make
> without extra-virgin olive oil) and peanut oil (which
> is pretty expensive) for the little bit of frying that
> I do.
>
> I've looked for peanut oil in something besides
> the quart bottle from Planter's, but no go. Apparently
> we Yankees either don't do enough frying, or we're
> happy to use "fryer grease".
>
Try coconut oil. I haven't yet, but I do have a jar of it. If you
have a Trader Joe's nearby, they sell it at a reasonable price. They
also have ghee in a jar. I was just reading that sunflower oil is
high in omega 6, which isn't a good thing - so although I like the way
it cooks, I'm cooling off on that one.

--

sf

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On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:54:50 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:37:49 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > Growing up, grilled cheese was Velveeta on white bread. For years, I
> > > never did much else but eventually went to sharp cheese. The evolution
> > > continues
> > >
> > > We had grilled cheese for dinner last night.
> > >
> > > For the cheese> Cabot extra sharp cheddar and Fontina. Both were grated
> > > and then mixed together. You get a better melt that way.
> > >
> > > For the bread: Sourdough
> > >
> > > For the process: We have an old Dominion brand combo waffler iron and
> > > flat faced grill. I'd guess it is 35 to 40 years old.
> > >
> > > Lay ot one slice of bread, spread with the cheese mix. Put the other
> > > slice on top and instead of butter, I spread a light coat of mayo on it.
> > > Flipped it ont he grill, did the other side and closed it. A few
> > > minutes later, a nicely toasted bread with gooey melted cheese.
> > >
> > > I offered variations with ham on it too. The mayo is easier than butter
> > > and works well. I'll be using it int he future.
> >
> >
> > I think canola oil stinks when heated and so do a lot of other people.
>
> I think olive oil tastes like paint thinner. What's puzzling to me is that other people don't seem able to taste it.

I would never use olive oil in a sandwich of any kind let alone one with
cheese. Butter is the only thing to use...it gives a unique flavor.
====

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On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:05:06 PM UTC-4, Roy wrote:

> I would never use olive oil in a sandwich of any kind let alone one with
> cheese. Butter is the only thing to use...it gives a unique flavor.

I'd never use butter on an Italian sub (with cheese). Only olive
oil.

Cindy Hamilton

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On 3/31/2015 10:32 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> keep hearing that liver and bacon or liver and onions is really good if
>>> not overcooked. I can only agree that it is not as horrible as the
>>> suede like stuff my mother tried to foist on me when I was a kid.
>
> "Liver Fingers" was a favorite Navy recipe:
> http://www.dvo.com/recipe_pages/deep...ver_Strips.php
>
Did you fail to get your discharge papers?

Jill

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On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Growing up, grilled cheese was Velveeta on white bread. For years, I
> never did much else but eventually went to sharp cheese. The evolution
> continues
>
> We had grilled cheese for dinner last night.
>
> For the cheese> Cabot extra sharp cheddar and Fontina. Both were grated
> and then mixed together. You get a better melt that way.
>
> For the bread: Sourdough
>
> For the process: We have an old Dominion brand combo waffler iron and
> flat faced grill. I'd guess it is 35 to 40 years old.
>
> Lay ot one slice of bread, spread with the cheese mix. Put the other
> slice on top and instead of butter, I spread a light coat of mayo on it.
> Flipped it ont he grill, did the other side and closed it. A few
> minutes later, a nicely toasted bread with gooey melted cheese.
>
> I offered variations with ham on it too. The mayo is easier than butter
> and works well. I'll be using it int he future.

Ed, I have never tried mayonnaise but I will give it a try.

I have found you can also use Pam (butter flavored is best) on bread instead of butter. It cooks very well and provides a lower-carb alternative.

Jim

BYW: I read through some other posts and find that some can not express themselves without using the "F" bomb. Too me that is just sad.

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On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:42:16 AM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-03-30, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > I am inclined to agree with him on that. I like burgers. We have them
> > once a week. Saturday is hamburger night. I have had them with cheese
> > on top, blue cheese inside, with bacon, with bacon and cheese. Now I
> > stick to straight burgers. I don't even do cheeseburgers.
>
> A couple decades ago, while I was on a serious burger jag, I ate
> burgers 2-3 times per week. EVERY SINGLE TIME! ....I would be asked
> by the server/clerk, "Would you like a cheeseburger?" It got so bad I
> almost had a custom t-shirt made up, saying:
>
> NO EFFIN CHEESE!!
>
> Fortunately, my burger jag fizzed out b4 I got around to having the
> shirt made. ;)

At Steak'n Shake, when they ask I tell them that shitty process cheese
belongs on a McDonald's burger, and that there is something wrong with
anyone who would pay $3.99 for a double with cheese when they could get
a triple for the same price. The only time I *ever* get cheese on a
burger is when it comes no extra charge.
>
> nb

--Bryan

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On 4/1/2015 9:07 AM, Jim Martin wrote:

> Ed, I have never tried mayonnaise but I will give it a try.
>
> I have found you can also use Pam (butter flavored is best) on bread instead of butter. It cooks very well and provides a lower-carb alternative.
>
> Jim
>
> BYW: I read through some other posts and find that some can not express themselves without using the "F" bomb. Too me that is just sad.
>

Sad indeed. Bad enough writing it frequently I know some people that
cannot speak more that two short sentences without F bombing. Some
people think I'm over reacting, but you won't hear that word in my
house. Ask my grandson.

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On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:25:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>Sad indeed. Bad enough writing it frequently I know some people that
>cannot speak more that two short sentences without F bombing. Some
>people think I'm over reacting, but you won't hear that word in my
>house. Ask my grandson.

I think you're ****ing out of your ****ing mind. How the **** can you
write a ****ing sentence without using the ****ing word "****"?
**** that! I'd rather ****ing use that ****ing F-word as many ****ing
times as I ****ing can, in every ****ing sentence, during every ****ing
day of the ****ing week and for the whole ****ing year. Nobody gives a
****, except those ****ing prissy type of ****ing idiots, who I dont
****ing care to be around their ****ing assholes anyhow. They can just
****ing go and **** themselves, until they learn to shut their ****ing
mouths about ****ers who use the word "****". Then again, I dont really
give one flying **** what those ****ers say, or dont say. **** them
****ing mother****ers!

I thank the ****ing lord that my ****ing mother taught me to ****ing
speak the ****ing english language using the proper ****ing words.

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On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 05:47:34 -0600,
wrote:

> I thank the ****ing lord that my ****ing mother taught me to ****ing
> speak the ****ing english language using the proper ****ing words.

When we want your opinion, we'll ask for it. Until then, shut your
****ing mouth.

--

sf

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> wrote in message
...

> I thank the ****ing lord that my ****ing mother taught me to ****ing
> speak the ****ing english language using the proper ****ing words.

Must be out of grade school for the Easter break. Go do something
constructive like clean your room.

Cheri

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On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:48:46 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:25:18 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >Sad indeed. Bad enough writing it frequently I know some people that
> >cannot speak more that two short sentences without F bombing. Some
> >people think I'm over reacting, but you won't hear that word in my
> >house. Ask my grandson.
>
> I think you're ****ing out of your ****ing mind. How the **** can you
> write a ****ing sentence without using the ****ing word "****"?
> **** that! I'd rather ****ing use that ****ing F-word as many ****ing
> times as I ****ing can, in every ****ing sentence, during every ****ing
> day of the ****ing week and for the whole ****ing year. Nobody gives a
> ****, except those ****ing prissy type of ****ing idiots, who I dont
> ****ing care to be around their ****ing assholes anyhow. They can just
> ****ing go and **** themselves, until they learn to shut their ****ing
> mouths about ****ers who use the word "****". Then again, I dont really
> give one flying **** what those ****ers say, or dont say. **** them
> ****ing mother****ers!
>
> I thank the ****ing lord that my ****ing mother taught me to ****ing
> speak the ****ing english language using the proper ****ing words.

So would yer be Irish then? :-)

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"Cheri"wrote:
><truckerfukker wrote:
>
>> I thank the ****ing lord that my ****ing mother taught me to ****ing
>> speak the ****ing english language using the proper ****ing words.
>
>Must be out of grade school for the Easter break. Go do something
>constructive like clean your room.

Probably a 40+ year old virgin who named his left hand Billy and his
right hand Randy.