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Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts

Here's another:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_pattern_diet

And another:

http://grist.org/industrial-agricult...f-fats-sugars/

I'm willing to bet that not many of us here eat like this. And I don't
personally know too many who do. One of my friends isn't really big on
vegetables and probably eats more meat than she should, but she does cook
and doesn't eat junk food. I know some other people who eat out a lot but
they do eat salads. In this house, we probably don't eat as much fruit as
we should, but then given the diabetes on both sides of the family, we
shouldn't be eating a lot of fruit. We do probably eat more beans and
vegetables than most.

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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> Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
> that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>
> http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>
>
> I'm willing to bet that not many of us here eat like this. And I don't
> personally know too many who do. One of my friends isn't really big on
> vegetables and probably eats more meat than she should, but she does cook
> and doesn't eat junk food. I know some other people who eat out a lot but
> they do eat salads. In this house, we probably don't eat as much fruit as
> we should, but then given the diabetes on both sides of the family, we
> shouldn't be eating a lot of fruit. We do probably eat more beans and
> vegetables than most.


We try. I'm not a fish fan although I'm trying to increase our
consumption in that category; we aren't big on fruit in any form and
not much dairy of any kind is consumed in this household either.

The category that baffles me is "soup". I think it's a stupid
category because there are too many variations on the theme.

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> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>> that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>
>> http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>>
>>
>> I'm willing to bet that not many of us here eat like this. And I don't
>> personally know too many who do. One of my friends isn't really big on
>> vegetables and probably eats more meat than she should, but she does cook
>> and doesn't eat junk food. I know some other people who eat out a lot
>> but
>> they do eat salads. In this house, we probably don't eat as much fruit
>> as
>> we should, but then given the diabetes on both sides of the family, we
>> shouldn't be eating a lot of fruit. We do probably eat more beans and
>> vegetables than most.

>
> We try. I'm not a fish fan although I'm trying to increase our
> consumption in that category; we aren't big on fruit in any form and
> not much dairy of any kind is consumed in this household either.
>
> The category that baffles me is "soup". I think it's a stupid
> category because there are too many variations on the theme.


Yeah. I did wonder about that. I eat a lot of soup but it's soup that I
make. I figure they meant stuff like Ramen or Campbell's. Obviously I
can't eat dairy. Or eggs.

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>
>http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>

This chart is compiled from spending habits. This is how people in
the US are using their food dollars. It's a reasonable way to present
an assumption about diet. You're supposed to understand a point that
is being made not argue that it isn't true because you eat
differently.
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> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>>that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>
>>http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>>

> This chart is compiled from spending habits. This is how people in
> the US are using their food dollars. It's a reasonable way to present
> an assumption about diet. You're supposed to understand a point that
> is being made not argue that it isn't true because you eat
> differently.



Imagine a world where everyone eats like Julie.

...... ..... .....

On second thought, don't. It's giving me indigestion.



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> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>>that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>
>>http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>>

> This chart is compiled from spending habits. This is how people in
> the US are using their food dollars. It's a reasonable way to present
> an assumption about diet. You're supposed to understand a point that
> is being made not argue that it isn't true because you eat
> differently.
> Janet US


I was merely asking who here eats like this? Who are these people?

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On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 11:47:33 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> Just curious who here eats like this?


I don't eat as healthfully as the "recommended diet"; I don't eat
as poorly as the standard american diet.

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:26:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>>>that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>>
>>>http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>>>

>> This chart is compiled from spending habits. This is how people in
>> the US are using their food dollars. It's a reasonable way to present
>> an assumption about diet. You're supposed to understand a point that
>> is being made not argue that it isn't true because you eat
>> differently.
>> Janet US

>
>I was merely asking who here eats like this? Who are these people?


On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:35:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
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I am also getting tired of hearing about the Standard American Diet.
There is no such thing.
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In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
> that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>
> http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...n-diet-sad-cha
> rts
>


From the first chart, the FDA recommends you eat more sugar and candy
than you do eggs?

I admit it. I don't follow their recommendations.
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:26:00 -0500, Mark Storkamp
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>In article >,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>> that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>
>> http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...n-diet-sad-cha
>> rts
>>

>
>From the first chart, the FDA recommends you eat more sugar and candy
>than you do eggs?
>
>I admit it. I don't follow their recommendations.


You gotta give something to the Big Candy industry lobbyists in
exchange for their bribes... err, for their time and effort, I meant'
to say.


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> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:26:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:47:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>>>>that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...iet-sad-charts
>>>>
>>> This chart is compiled from spending habits. This is how people in
>>> the US are using their food dollars. It's a reasonable way to present
>>> an assumption about diet. You're supposed to understand a point that
>>> is being made not argue that it isn't true because you eat
>>> differently.
>>> Janet US

>>
>>I was merely asking who here eats like this? Who are these people?

>
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:35:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> I am also getting tired of hearing about the Standard American Diet.
> There is no such thing.
> Message-ID: >


As you can see, it means different things to different people. But overall
I still say there can be no such thing because we all eat differently.

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> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:26:00 -0500, Mark Storkamp
> > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> Just curious who here eats like this? And yes, it was pointed out to me
>>> that it is a generalization but it really isn't. Here's one example:
>>>
>>> http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...n-diet-sad-cha
>>> rts
>>>

>>
>>From the first chart, the FDA recommends you eat more sugar and candy
>>than you do eggs?
>>
>>I admit it. I don't follow their recommendations.

>
> You gotta give something to the Big Candy industry lobbyists in
> exchange for their bribes... err, for their time and effort, I meant'
> to say.


Yes. When I worked at K Mart, I was in charge of the food department for a
while. I should remember which brand this is but I don't. Either Sather's,
Farleys, or Brachs. But the boxes boasted, "Candy is delicious food! Enjoy
some every day!" Or something very similar.

I was also shocked in reading some food history books that in the US around
the early 1900's to perhaps 1920ish, candy was considered to be a good lunch
for school children. Reasons being, it kept at room temp., was inexpensive,
was quickly eaten, provided energy and could easily be sold by roaming
street vendors. Such vendors would set up shop outside the schools and kids
would go buy it.

By the time I was in school, candy was frowned on. I don't recall them
saying that we could not have it at school but most kids did not. There was
a boy named Scott who did sell both candy and pieces of salt licks.
Apparently both were desirable at least to the boys. Not sure where he got
the salt licks. And the candy would vary. Often it was a very large
Hershey bar or Turkish taffy. He would break off a piece or in the case of
the salt lick bang off a piece with a rock and sell little bites and licks
for whatever pennies or however much one was willing to spend for the treat.
I do remember him getting banned for selling. That didn't stop him. He was
just far more careful about how he did it.

My Jr. High did sell donuts at morning break. And we had an apple machine
in the cafeteria.

We did sell candy in the student store in High School but we didn't sell too
much of it. I was in charge of the store my Senior year and I would go to K
Mart at the start of the year and buy as much off brand candy as they would
sell me. I think those candy bars were 20/$1 back then. They had a limit
of 20 so it involved sending others to buy and making many trips myself.
They were mostly off brands meaning not Hersheys, Nestles or Cadbury but I
don't think that mattered. We did have those brands too. The only thing we
always sold out of were Marathon bars. One of the cheerleaders ate one of
those and a bag of Doritos every day for lunch. I think she was our biggest
customer. But mostly I didn't see too many kids eating candy in school.

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On 2015-04-16, W. Lohman > wrote:

> Wasn't that basically your childhood script?


Tape!! It's "childhood tape".

Obviously, not an EST graduate.

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On 4/16/2015 3:41 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-04-16, W. Lohman > wrote:
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>> Wasn't that basically your childhood script?

>
> Tape!! It's "childhood tape".
>
> Obviously, not an EST graduate.
>
> nb
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