Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > If you've grown up on condensed soup as sauce, you don't know the difference.
> > I confess that there's a casserole my husband likes made with condensed
> > soup. I make it for him occasionally; it's nostalgic for him. I eat it,
> > too, but I don't pretend it's real cooking. I've never tried to reverse-
> > engineer it with real ingredients; to him it tastes just the way it should

No need to pretend it's "real cooking." If it tastes good as an
ingredient, why would you ever want to try to copy it just to make it
"real cooking?"
They make that right and many people love the taste, there's no need
to "reinvent the wheel."

> Somebody from the UK really doesn't get a say-so in this, IMO.

Those that frown on condensed soup are missing out on a taste. Just to
make it from scratch and simulate it is dumb, imo. Are you going to
build your next new car from scratch? Knock yourselves out.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > If you've grown up on condensed soup as sauce, you don't know the
>> > difference.
>> > I confess that there's a casserole my husband likes made with condensed
>> > soup. I make it for him occasionally; it's nostalgic for him. I eat
>> > it,
>> > too, but I don't pretend it's real cooking. I've never tried to
>> > reverse-
>> > engineer it with real ingredients; to him it tastes just the way it
>> > should
>
> No need to pretend it's "real cooking." If it tastes good as an
> ingredient, why would you ever want to try to copy it just to make it
> "real cooking?"
> They make that right and many people love the taste, there's no need
> to "reinvent the wheel."
>
>> Somebody from the UK really doesn't get a say-so in this, IMO.
>
> Those that frown on condensed soup are missing out on a taste. Just to
> make it from scratch and simulate it is dumb, imo. Are you going to
> build your next new car from scratch? Knock yourselves out.

Just to clarify, I didn't frown on it, I asked about it, but I can see the
whingers prefer not to understand that.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 1:36:25 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2015 12:55:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 2:00:27 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> I don't get the condensed soup as sauce. I see a lot of US recipes which
> >> use it.
> >
> > 1. Marketing.
> > 2. Ease of use. Much easier to open a can than to make your own veloute.
> >
> > If you've grown up on condensed soup as sauce, you don't know the difference.
> > I confess that there's a casserole my husband likes made with condensed
> > soup. I make it for him occasionally; it's nostalgic for him. I eat it,
> > too, but I don't pretend it's real cooking. I've never tried to reverse-
> > engineer it with real ingredients; to him it tastes just the way it should
>
> That's awesome that you can duplicate it even it's against
> your (our) morals :-)
>
> Somebody from the UK really doesn't get a say-so in this, IMO. Here
> in the United States We don't use custard sauce and curries from
> powders in cardboard cans and shelf-stable bottles.

Sure we do. I use Patak's curry paste occasionally. I store the
opened paste in the fridge. I had a box of tandoori seasoning
(which isn't really a curry), but I switched to paste for that, too.

But I'm with you on the custard sauce. It's vanishingly rare.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/5/2015 11:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> That's awesome that you can duplicate it even it's against
> your (our) morals:-)


>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 5/5/2015 11:47 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I nominate this post for the Most Anti-Climactic and Unbiased Post
> That Doesn't Involve Julie of 2015.
>
> We really need an RFC Rewards Committee.
>
> -sw

Your Oscar is waiting:

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 5/6/2015 12:25 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
> On Tue, 05 May 2015 22:36:18 -0600, W. Lohman wrote:
>
>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>
> I was molested as a little boy and it brings me no joy to inform you
> of this.
>

Oh look, a forger!

<chuckle>

You go in my pwnd shop too.

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
> >> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
> >>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
> >>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --Bryan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
> >>>>> tripped
> >>>>> out on acid.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
> >>>>
> >>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
> >>>
> >>> You just make up so much crap.
> >>>
> >> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
> >>
> >>
> >> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town. (Hendrix
> >> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.) Clapton and
> >> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to nightclub
> >> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
> >>
> >> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was actually
> >> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a person
> >> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
> >> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls listening to
> >> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
> >> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
> >>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
> >> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four o'clock
> >> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him stop.
> >>
> >> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had enough
> >> time to sober him up before the show.
> >>
> >> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would give
> >> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell the
> >> difference.
> >>
> >> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so drunk on
> >> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
> >>
> >> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
> >> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint for
> >> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric would
> >> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
> >> madam?"
> >
> > This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is a God.
>
>
> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been different?
>
> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.

Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)

I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to London during this period and EC came to realize that old British Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed him up. Hee hee.

On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>
>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>
>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town. (Hendrix
>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.) Clapton and
>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to nightclub
>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>
>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was actually
>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a person
>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls listening to
>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four o'clock
>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him stop.
>>>>
>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had enough
>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>
>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would give
>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell the
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so drunk on
>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>
>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint for
>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric would
>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
>>>> madam?"
>>>
>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is a God.
>>
>>
>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been different?
>>
>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>
> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)

Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.

> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to London during this period and EC came to realize that old British Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed him up. Hee hee.
>

You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
way too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs

On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to nightclub
>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was actually
>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a person
>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>> listening to
>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four o'clock
>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him stop.
>>>>>
>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had enough
>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would give
>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>> drunk on
>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint for
>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric
>>>>> would
>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
>>>>> madam?"
>>>>
>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is
>>>> a God.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>> different?
>>>
>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>
>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It
>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>
> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.

Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!

http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg

>
>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first
>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed
>> him up. Hee hee.
>>
>
> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
> way too:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs

When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in mid-year.
That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.

On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to nightclub
>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a person
>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint for
>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>
>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is
>>>>> a God.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>> different?
>>>>
>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>
>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It
>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>
>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>
> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>
> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg

Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
preferred near cable thick strings.

His sound was so fat and full.

>>
>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first
>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed
>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>
>>
>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
>> way too:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>
> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in mid-year.
> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.

That's a bummer tale.

You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?

On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is
>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>> different?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>
>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It
>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>
>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>
>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>
>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>
> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
> preferred near cable thick strings.
>
> His sound was so fat and full.

I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years ago
and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about ready to
go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)

>
>>>
>>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first
>>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed
>>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
>>> way too:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>>
>> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in mid-year.
>> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
>> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
>> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
>> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
>> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.
>
> That's a bummer tale.
>
> You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?
>

Yeah - sorta, back in the 70s. I can't say I got very good at it. People
wanted me to play with them but I never knew why nor did I enjoy it. I
didn't think I was very good but maybe I was. It's a mystery to me. :-)

On 5/6/2015 4:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before they
>>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually stayed
>>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol without
>>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would
>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one again,
>>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone thinks is
>>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric Clapton." It
>>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>>
>>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
>>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>>
>>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>>
>> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
>> preferred near cable thick strings.
>>
>> His sound was so fat and full.
>
> I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
> got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
> thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years ago
> and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about ready to
> go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)

I hope you're going to consider playing it through a Fender tube amp too.

>>>>
>>>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his first
>>>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>>>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally ****ed
>>>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
>>>> way too:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>>>
>>> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in mid-year.
>>> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
>>> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
>>> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
>>> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
>>> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.
>>
>> That's a bummer tale.
>>
>> You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?
>>
>
> Yeah - sorta, back in the 70s. I can't say I got very good at it. People
> wanted me to play with them but I never knew why nor did I enjoy it. I
> didn't think I was very good but maybe I was. It's a mystery to me. :-)

The whole lead guitar duet looks tough to master, if you get off it can
sound crappy.

I will say that Dicky Betts got better sound out of a Les Paul than
anyone save for Les Paul himself.

On 5/6/2015 1:02 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 4:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually
>>>>>>>>> stayed
>>>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol
>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't tell
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking. Eric
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one
>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone
>>>>>>>> thinks is
>>>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>>>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric
>>>>>> Clapton." It
>>>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>>>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
>>>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>>>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>>>
>>>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>>>
>>> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
>>> preferred near cable thick strings.
>>>
>>> His sound was so fat and full.
>>
>> I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
>> got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
>> thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years ago
>> and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about ready to
>> go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)
>
> I hope you're going to consider playing it through a Fender tube amp too.

I have a Tech 21 Trademark 60 that's just peachy keen. When the reverb
unit on the amp went out the designer/owner of the company sent me
another one for a very reasonable price. I like that. OTOH, the new
digital amps are pretty slick. The Trademark 60 amp is able to get a
wide range of sounds without digital electronics. I don't know how they
do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQQVCDWSgQ

>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>>>>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>>>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally
>>>>>> ****ed
>>>>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
>>>>> way too:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>>>>
>>>> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in mid-year.
>>>> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
>>>> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
>>>> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
>>>> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
>>>> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.
>>>
>>> That's a bummer tale.
>>>
>>> You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah - sorta, back in the 70s. I can't say I got very good at it. People
>> wanted me to play with them but I never knew why nor did I enjoy it. I
>> didn't think I was very good but maybe I was. It's a mystery to me. :-)
>
> The whole lead guitar duet looks tough to master, if you get off it can
> sound crappy.

It's a pretty cool effect. It makes me giggle when a group pulls that
out of their hat. It's so seventies!

>
> I will say that Dicky Betts got better sound out of a Les Paul than
> anyone save for Les Paul himself.

On 5/6/2015 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 1:02 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 4:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually
>>>>>>>>>> stayed
>>>>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on LSD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger would
>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica. Every
>>>>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest joint
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking.
>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one
>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone
>>>>>>>>> thinks is
>>>>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of Sound
>>>>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric
>>>>>>> Clapton." It
>>>>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>>>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>>>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>>>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>>>>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some reason,
>>>>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>>>>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
>>>> preferred near cable thick strings.
>>>>
>>>> His sound was so fat and full.
>>>
>>> I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
>>> got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
>>> thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years ago
>>> and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about ready to
>>> go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)
>>
>> I hope you're going to consider playing it through a Fender tube amp too.
>
> I have a Tech 21 Trademark 60 that's just peachy keen. When the reverb
> unit on the amp went out the designer/owner of the company sent me
> another one for a very reasonable price. I like that. OTOH, the new
> digital amps are pretty slick. The Trademark 60 amp is able to get a
> wide range of sounds without digital electronics. I don't know how they
> do it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQQVCDWSgQ

That does have a really nice sound program.

Check this comparo out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mVBHNszZM

>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix went to
>>>>>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>>>>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally
>>>>>>> ****ed
>>>>>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went that
>>>>>> way too:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in
>>>>> mid-year.
>>>>> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy Page
>>>>> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
>>>>> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school felt
>>>>> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play with
>>>>> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.
>>>>
>>>> That's a bummer tale.
>>>>
>>>> You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah - sorta, back in the 70s. I can't say I got very good at it. People
>>> wanted me to play with them but I never knew why nor did I enjoy it. I
>>> didn't think I was very good but maybe I was. It's a mystery to me. :-)
>>
>> The whole lead guitar duet looks tough to master, if you get off it can
>> sound crappy.
>
> It's a pretty cool effect. It makes me giggle when a group pulls that
> out of their hat. It's so seventies!

And when we talk 70s Tom Scholz comes right to mind, a wizard
electronics engineer and pretty fine guitarist too.

>
>>
>> I will say that Dicky Betts got better sound out of a Les Paul than
>> anyone save for Les Paul himself.
>
>

On 5/6/2015 2:44 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 1:02 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 4:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away everybody.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually
>>>>>>>>>>> stayed
>>>>>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on
>>>>>>>>>>> LSD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made him
>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica.
>>>>>>>>>>> Every
>>>>>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest
>>>>>>>>>>> joint
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking.
>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one
>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone
>>>>>>>>>> thinks is
>>>>>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of
>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>>>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric
>>>>>>>> Clapton." It
>>>>>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest string I
>>>>>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too damn
>>>>>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string set
>>>>>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>>>>>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some
>>>>>> reason,
>>>>>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>>>>>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
>>>>> preferred near cable thick strings.
>>>>>
>>>>> His sound was so fat and full.
>>>>
>>>> I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
>>>> got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
>>>> thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years ago
>>>> and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about ready to
>>>> go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)
>>>
>>> I hope you're going to consider playing it through a Fender tube amp
>>> too.
>>
>> I have a Tech 21 Trademark 60 that's just peachy keen. When the reverb
>> unit on the amp went out the designer/owner of the company sent me
>> another one for a very reasonable price. I like that. OTOH, the new
>> digital amps are pretty slick. The Trademark 60 amp is able to get a
>> wide range of sounds without digital electronics. I don't know how they
>> do it.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQQVCDWSgQ
>
> That does have a really nice sound program.
>
> Check this comparo out:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mVBHNszZM
>

I've never been able to do much with that classic shimmery high
frequency Fender sound. What I was looking for in an amp a decade ago
was a darker blues sounds. I can get that in the Tech 21. I can also get
it to sound like a Fender too. Hoo boy, I don't like that sound too
much! What's the deal with the Peavy? It sounds weird.


>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been thinking about his radical change in sound between his
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> and second Cream records. My theory now is that Jimi Hendrix
>>>>>>>> went to
>>>>>>>> London during this period and EC came to realize that old British
>>>>>>>> Blues wasn't going to cut it anymore. Hendrix must have totally
>>>>>>>> ****ed
>>>>>>>> him up. Hee hee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, I think it may have been about the time Jeff Beck went
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> way too:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2K8lCELJs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I was in high school, a new kid moved in from Okinawa in
>>>>>> mid-year.
>>>>>> That guy was unbelievable. He played "Heartbreaker" in that Jimmy
>>>>>> Page
>>>>>> super articulation style and I knew it was the end for me cause there
>>>>>> was no way I could ever play like that. The guitar gang at school
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> the same way but nobody ever said anything. They would later play
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> him but I never did. I guess I shudda. Hee hee.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a bummer tale.
>>>>>
>>>>> You ever get into the Allman Brothers style?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah - sorta, back in the 70s. I can't say I got very good at it.
>>>> People
>>>> wanted me to play with them but I never knew why nor did I enjoy it. I
>>>> didn't think I was very good but maybe I was. It's a mystery to me. :-)
>>>
>>> The whole lead guitar duet looks tough to master, if you get off it can
>>> sound crappy.
>>
>> It's a pretty cool effect. It makes me giggle when a group pulls that
>> out of their hat. It's so seventies!
>
> And when we talk 70s Tom Scholz comes right to mind, a wizard
> electronics engineer and pretty fine guitarist too.
>
>>
>>>
>>> I will say that Dicky Betts got better sound out of a Les Paul than
>>> anyone save for Les Paul himself.
>>
>>
>

On 5/6/2015 7:41 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 5/6/2015 2:44 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>> On 5/6/2015 6:31 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2015 1:02 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2015 4:28 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/6/2015 11:54 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 3:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 9:34 AM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/6/2015 12:45 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:36:42 PM UTC-10, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 2:11 PM, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2015 12:45 PM, ..... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 8:52:27 PM UTC-7, W. Lohman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:18 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 2:26 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:56:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 7:11 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about some nice pressed duck instead? :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or pressed rat and warthog?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone for tennis?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love Cream--Tales of Brave Ulysses, White Room...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call me old-fashioned but I like their first album - before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tripped
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on acid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, "Spoonful" was about heroin...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These guys were lit by the time they were 15.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You just make up so much crap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hubpages.com/hub/23-Things-to...t-Eric-Clapton
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. In London late in 1966, guitarist Jimi Hendrix came to town.
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Hendrix
>>>>>>>>>>>> had come from the U.S. to England, hoping to be discovered.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clapton and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrix became quick friends and would go from nightclub to
>>>>>>>>>>>> nightclub
>>>>>>>>>>>> and jam with the musicians in the bands, blowing away
>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. In 1967, Clapton took his first psychedelic drug. This was
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> STP, a very potent hallucinogen, which would reportedly keep a
>>>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>> stoned for up to three days. (Clapton wrote that he actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> stayed
>>>>>>>>>>>> inebriated for this long.) While tripping, Clapton recalls
>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to
>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the first acetates of the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hearts
>>>>>>>>>>>> Club Band, which the Beatles had supposedly written while on
>>>>>>>>>>>> LSD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...biography.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He coped by drinking. Eric had moved from heroin to alcohol
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>> blinking. He began in the morning and drank all day until four
>>>>>>>>>>>> o'clock
>>>>>>>>>>>> when Roger Forrester, his minder and later his manager, made
>>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He reckoned that if he could stop Eric drinking at four, he had
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>> time to sober him up before the show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric's poison was Courvoisier and 7Up but after four, Roger
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>>> him cold tea and 7Up and by that stage in the day he couldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The plan didn't always work. There were times when Eric was so
>>>>>>>>>>>> drunk on
>>>>>>>>>>>> stage that he played lying flat on his back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After the tour we took a holiday in Montego Bay in Jamaica.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Every
>>>>>>>>>>>> morning the gardener would arrive with the biggest, fattest
>>>>>>>>>>>> joint
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric, and they would spend the day smoking dope and drinking.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> pass out in the evening. The maid would ask: "Dinner for one
>>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>>> madam?"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This always happens whenever you marry a guy whom everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> thinks is
>>>>>>>>>>> a God.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if he'd also lost the B string would the karma have been
>>>>>>>>>> different?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've played flat on my back too, but not since I was 5.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Years ago, I bought an 80s guitar and in the case was a set of
>>>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>> City guitar strings that had a picture of EC in the center of the
>>>>>>>>> package. It said that the strings were "Designed for Eric
>>>>>>>>> Clapton." It
>>>>>>>>> had a very thin .0085 E string. That would be the thinnest
>>>>>>>>> string I
>>>>>>>>> ever saw. Slowhand's problem is obvious - that E string is too
>>>>>>>>> damn
>>>>>>>>> skinny. As far as the guitar goes, I'm guessing that the string
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> might be worth more than the guitar one day. :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too funny - makes me wonder what gauges the rest of the set was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a link. After some thinking and rememberin', I realize that I
>>>>>>> have the Super Ultra Light set with a .0085 E string. For some
>>>>>>> reason,
>>>>>>> it's not listed here. That sounds like a pack of trouble to me. From
>>>>>>> what I hear, Billy Gibbons has a .0075 E string. What a show-off!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://soundcitysite.com/page_11.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taking not a thing away from either man - but Stevie Ray Vaughn
>>>>>> preferred near cable thick strings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His sound was so fat and full.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Strats sound best with the thickest strings you can bear. I've
>>>>> got a Strat that's just beautiful. I was starting to get good on that
>>>>> thing but then I switched over to nylon string guitar over 10 years
>>>>> ago
>>>>> and my hands have gotten all weak and pasty. I think I'm about
>>>>> ready to
>>>>> go back to electric steel. Who the heck isn't? :-)
>>>>
>>>> I hope you're going to consider playing it through a Fender tube amp
>>>> too.
>>>
>>> I have a Tech 21 Trademark 60 that's just peachy keen. When the reverb
>>> unit on the amp went out the designer/owner of the company sent me
>>> another one for a very reasonable price. I like that. OTOH, the new
>>> digital amps are pretty slick. The Trademark 60 amp is able to get a
>>> wide range of sounds without digital electronics. I don't know how they
>>> do it.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQQVCDWSgQ
>>
>> That does have a really nice sound program.
>>
>> Check this comparo out:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mVBHNszZM
>>
>
> I've never been able to do much with that classic shimmery high
> frequency Fender sound.

Ok.

> What I was looking for in an amp a decade ago
> was a darker blues sounds. I can get that in the Tech 21. I can also get
> it to sound like a Fender too. Hoo boy, I don't like that sound too
> much! What's the deal with the Peavy? It sounds weird.

Sounds real thin, trebley, clipped.

I think you made a decent choice.

That Tech 21 reminds me of older Mesa Bogie.

In article >, says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 05 May 2015 05:37:26 -0400, Gary wrote:
> >
> > > Last week, while going through my pantry, I found a bottle of La Choy
> > > Sweet & Sour sauce. Don't remember buying it but I must have had a
> > > good coupon for it.
> > >
> > > I decided to make sweet & sour chicken. I'd never made it before so I
> > > looked up several recipes just to get the general idea. Very easy to
> > > make fairly quickly. I nixed the idea of using the jar of sauce and
> > > I'm glad I did.
> > >
> > > I did open the jar and dipped a piece of chicken into it just to
> > > taste. Not near as good as what I made from scratch.
> >
> > I nominate this post for the Most Anti-Climactic and Unbiased Post
> > That Doesn't Involve Julie of 2015.
> >
> > We really need an RFC Rewards Committee.
>
> LOL! At least I didn't toss out the old jar of LaChoy S&S sauce.
> I might use the rest to dip fries in for awhile.

Deduct 10 points. Gary failed to mention who refused to eat what he
made, AND the dire health consequences for those who did.

Janet UK