"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 06:16:09 -0500, Sky >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2015 12:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> (big snip)
>> >
>> > I could do a lot of things. But do I want to? Nope. I did make
>> > croissants as a child. Crescent rolls are probably not quite as much
>> > work but... There are some things that are just easier to buy and
>> > that's
>> > one of them.
>>
>> Bove implies she made croissants as a child with no supervision. In my
>> very large world, a child is usually the age of 9 or younger. No matter
>> what bove says, I have significant doubts that nearly anyone at the age
>> of 9 can make and bake croissants from scratch without major help and
>> supervision. Who was bove's mentor - certainly not her mother! Just
>> another example and more compounding evidence of bove's exaggerated
>> belief that she can 'cook' !!! from scratch no less, to make croissants
>> --- har har! Would anyone like to purchase some ocean-front property
>> located in Bolivia ?? :>
>>
>> OB Food: Canned crescent rolls can make convenient
>>
> I will gar-run-tee her croissants were crescent rolls in a tube. I
> have no problem with a 9 year old baking them, other than her calling
> them croissants.

Nope. I cooked and baked my way through all of the cookbooks that my mom
had. That wasn't a lot because she didn't like to cook. She had Meta
Givens, The American Family Cookbook, a few Betty Crocker ones, a Duncan
Hines dessert book. I didn't make too many from the Duncan Hines one
because I don't consider that to be cooking. It was basically doing things
with a cake mix and we weren't big into cakes or desserts. I did like
decorating cakes though. I made several kinds of pastry when I was a kid.
My friends and I loved to cook and bake!

On 5/23/2015 8:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone else.
>>> Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who mows the
>>> lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to time. Nothing
>>> about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some people think it
>>> means that.
>>
>> The house was free. Win a new car on a game show? Great prize but you
>> still have to buy insurance, taxes etc.
>>
>> If you still can't see the "free" part, sell it and take the money and
>> run. What ever amount you run away with is the nice sum of the free
>> part.
>
> Yes. I get all sorts of free magazines. Not all are of interest to me
> but that wasn't a problem in the past. I was passing them on to someone
> I know. I specifically got many of those for her husband because he is
> stuck at home. However, the situation has changed and I am no longer in
> contact with this woman. I could be but it would mean my driving
> specifically to give this to her. So... I will not renew subscriptions
> to those. I never paid a dime for any of the magazines. I have also
> gotten a pedometer (could have gotten another), two USB drives, and am
> awaiting my spiralizer.
>
> I have gotten free cat food, free human food, toilet paper, paper
> towels. Yes, getting these things does take a minute or two of my time
> because they need my address.
>
> We also got tons of free stuff when we got this house. Husband got a
> call from the real estate agent asking if we would like the patio set?
> He told her we would take it and anything else they wanted to leave.
> I'll bet he never says that again! Turns out that the patio set was
> broken to the point of not being able to take it apart which I am sure
> is why they left it. We were able to use it for many years. At first
> it wasn't broken as in falling apart but broken as in stuck together and
> can't take apart. But then it did break as in falling apart. Some of
> it is still out there. The rest was hauled away to the dump.
>
> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> can. Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or
> moving in a loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.

Oh dear god.

Jill

Sky wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 5/21/2015 6:03 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 1:38:07 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>> >> Well I didn't want to Cheeto...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I assume that is a food?
> > > > >
> >>>> They are sold as a food but probably have little nutritional
> >>>> value. They are an extruded corn puff with cheese flavoring,
> >>>> known to turn the fingers orange.
> > > >
> > > > Those things taste good but I rarely buy them. I've always
> > > > wondered why they don't just leave out all that food coloring
> > > > though.
> > >
> > > Most Americans have been conditioned to associate "orange"
> > > with "cheese". I'd be willing to bet a small sum that if
> > > you taste-tested orange cheetos against un-colored cheetos,
> > > the tasters would say the orange ones tasted better.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Untrue. There are similar, organic snacks that people find just as
> > tasty. I have served them at parties. Orange is not associated with
> > cheese on the East Coast. They have white cheese there.
>
> Bove, please provide definitive LEGITIMATE citations to support your
> claim of "untrue" as stated above! More than likely, bove will quote
> quack citations, too.
>
> Bove's quoted statement above provides more evidence that clearly
> shows another of the many examples of bove's "broad strokes" to paint
> an entire population, again, with bove's own personal experiences
> (which, of course, are beyond unusual and unrealistic). After all,
> if bove thinks "it", every one else has to as well! Poor thing, she
> lives in the teeny bubble of the miniscule universe of bothell.
>
>
> Sky

Sky, too many inaccurate edits here damaged the reply chain but the
basics are Cindy said orange associated to Cheese and Julie said no and
implied 'not always' in her reply. Julie if you take it as 'not
always' is correct.

She's no worse and no better than many of us. Me, I reply to her if
she says something of interest and like all of you all, irgnore posts
that are not of interest regardless of who posted it.
Carol


--

On 5/23/2015 6:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/23/2015 9:34 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone else.
>>> Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who mows
>>> the
>>> lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to time. Nothing
>>> about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some people think it
>>> means that.
>>
>> The house was free. Win a new car on a game show? Great prize but you
>> still have to buy insurance, taxes etc.
>>
> Uh, yeah, that's what makes it not "free".
>
>> If you still can't see the "free" part, sell it and take the money and
>> run. What ever amount you run away with is the nice sum of the free
>> part.
>>
> A nice sum? Not when the housing market in a given area is depressed.
> My car is paid for, too. Paid for does not equal free by a long shot.
>
> Jill


You mention that car a lot - I wonder what that says...

On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:31:17 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/23/2015 8:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>> can. Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or
>> moving in a loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>
>Oh dear god.

ROTFL... I would have missed that gem had you not replied to it

On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone can.
> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.

You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
them.

--

sf

On 5/23/2015 5:44 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 2:11:44 AM UTC-4, Sky wrote:
>
>> OB Food: Does any one know of a source for "powdered" (finely grated ?)
>> dark chocolate ? To make a mocha ?
>
> I don't have any on hand, so I can't check the details, but you
> might have a look at Ghirardelli hot chocolate "mix". It isn't
> like Swiss Miss--it's intended to be mixed with hot milk. But
> I recall it was very much like powdered chocolate, rather than
> like cocoa powder.

I've used and liked Ghirardelli "double chocolate" mix for years to make
my morning mochas. However, it seems they've changed their
recipe/formula somehow and it didn't taste the same after I purchased
some recently. Either that or maybe my taste buds have changed . . .
Amazon doesn't have anything 'powdered' when it comes to dark chocolate,
oh well :/

I purchased some dark chocolate morsels (53% cocoa, Nestle) today and
will try those to make a mocha and see how that turns out. If the
results are less than desired, then I'll use a dark chocolate candy bar
(~70% cocoa), crush it in its package with a hammer, then melt some in a
mug half-full with hot milk and heavy cream (nuked about 85 seconds),
then pour the coffee into the mug. If 70% cocoa doesn't work, I'll
adjust the cocoa percentage with different candy bars. I'll have to
figure out how much chocolate to add to the mug of hot milk . . 1 Tbl
spoon? 2 Tbl spoon, 2 tsp? Experimentation will be fun and will take a
few days. None of the chocolate will be wasted, that's for sure =|;-)

Sky

On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>Yes. I get all sorts of free magazines.

They're not free.
How are they free - simply because you directly don't pay for them??

>Not all are of interest to me but
>that wasn't a problem in the past. I was passing them on to someone I know.
>I specifically got many of those for her husband because he is stuck at
>home. However, the situation has changed and I am no longer in contact with
>this woman. I could be but it would mean my driving specifically to give
>this to her. So... I will not renew subscriptions to those. I never paid
>a dime for any of the magazines. I have also gotten a pedometer (could have
>gotten another), two USB drives, and am awaiting my spiralizer.
>
>I have gotten free cat food, free human food, toilet paper, paper towels.
>Yes, getting these things does take a minute or two of my time because they
>need my address.

Exactly. You just paid for those goods by doing that.

>There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone can.
>Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
>loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.

You're really not well in the head Julie.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>> can.
>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>
> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> them.

*My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2015 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-05-22 12:09 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:30:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that is well and truly self-evident to anybody here who
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> read enough of your posts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So? Some people enjoy such things. I don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What DO you enjoy? Seriously?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> She obviously doesn't get the attention at home.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting how many people think I'm a lonely old shrew because
>>>>> I don't have a husband. If I had a husband such as Julie describes
>>>>> I'd have walked out long ago. Oh wait, I did! I don't put up with
>>>>> that kind of crap.
>>>>
>>>> But you inherited a house. I got nothing.
>>>
>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone
>>> else. Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who
>>> mows the lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to
>>> time. Nothing about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some
>>> people think it means that.
>>
>> Why would that bother me?
>
> You're the one who said "But you inherited a house. I got nothing."
> Sounds like sour grapes to me.
>
> I remind you again, sorry, but nothing in life is FREE.
>
>> I don't care what you or anyone else does.
>> Yeah, you're paying all of the things that everyone else on the face of
>> this earth pays. But not a house payment.
>
> I chose NOT to have a house payment. I didn't mind renting. I loved
> my last apartment. Unlike some people here I did not have or worry
> about yearly rent increases. I don't think they'd raised the rent in
> three or four years.
>
> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>
>
> Jill
>

A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:

http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/

On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>> can.
>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>
>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>> them.
>
>*My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.

You don't look at ads now? Oh, okay.
If that's the case, somebody else has been posting here under your
name, Julie.

On 5/23/2015 9:33 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> Yes. I get all sorts of free magazines.
>
> They're not free.
> How are they free - simply because you directly don't pay for them??

Amazing ain't it?

We have these local advert mags that get bulk-mailed through our postal
system to anyone in a given demographic area.

Free.

Well, you know, no charge.

The USPS is still a failing AMTRAK debacle we fund through our taxes.

>> Not all are of interest to me but
>> that wasn't a problem in the past. I was passing them on to someone I know.
>> I specifically got many of those for her husband because he is stuck at
>> home. However, the situation has changed and I am no longer in contact with
>> this woman. I could be but it would mean my driving specifically to give
>> this to her. So... I will not renew subscriptions to those. I never paid
>> a dime for any of the magazines. I have also gotten a pedometer (could have
>> gotten another), two USB drives, and am awaiting my spiralizer.
>>
>> I have gotten free cat food, free human food, toilet paper, paper towels.
>> Yes, getting these things does take a minute or two of my time because they
>> need my address.
>
> Exactly. You just paid for those goods by doing that.

Not DIRECTLY.

>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone can.
>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>
> You're really not well in the head Julie.

From you a diagnosis of that weight?

Did your ego balloon just suck some lead?

On 5/23/2015 9:43 PM, Username wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2015 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-05-22 12:09 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:30:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that is well and truly self-evident to anybody here who
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> read enough of your posts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? Some people enjoy such things. I don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What DO you enjoy? Seriously?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She obviously doesn't get the attention at home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting how many people think I'm a lonely old shrew because
>>>>>> I don't have a husband. If I had a husband such as Julie describes
>>>>>> I'd have walked out long ago. Oh wait, I did! I don't put up with
>>>>>> that kind of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you inherited a house. I got nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone
>>>> else. Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who
>>>> mows the lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to
>>>> time. Nothing about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some
>>>> people think it means that.
>>>
>>> Why would that bother me?
>>
>> You're the one who said "But you inherited a house. I got nothing."
>> Sounds like sour grapes to me.
>>
>> I remind you again, sorry, but nothing in life is FREE.
>>
>>> I don't care what you or anyone else does.
>>> Yeah, you're paying all of the things that everyone else on the face of
>>> this earth pays. But not a house payment.
>>
>> I chose NOT to have a house payment. I didn't mind renting. I loved
>> my last apartment. Unlike some people here I did not have or worry
>> about yearly rent increases. I don't think they'd raised the rent in
>> three or four years.
>>
>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
>> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
>> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>>
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/

LOL!

Long live the 10 year powertrain warranty!

On 5/23/2015 10:38 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>> can.
>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>
>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>> them.
>>
>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>
> You don't look at ads now? Oh, okay.

Does that ability to sort, cull and eliminate baffle you, rabbit killer?

> If that's the case, somebody else has been posting here under your
> name, Julie.

In all cases you are toxic swine.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>> can.
>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>>> a
>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>
>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>> them.
>>
>>*My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>
> You don't look at ads now? Oh, okay.
> If that's the case, somebody else has been posting here under your
> name, Julie.

What are you talking about?

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>> can.
>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>> a
>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>
>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>> them.
>
> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.

Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in that
situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really a good
yardstick to measure with.

Cheri

On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >> can.
> >> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in a
> >> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >
> > You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> > for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> > disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> > your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> > people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> > them.
>
> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.

You truly do not understand.

--

sf

On Sat, 23 May 2015 23:02:33 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> The USPS is still a failing AMTRAK debacle we fund through our taxes.

Anyone who is the slightest bit informed knows why the USPS has their
problem (rooted with the republicans) and as far as AMTRAK goes -
trains are government underwritten throughout the world, so there's no
reason why they shouldn't be here too. Unfortunately, the Republicans
want to privatize the sections of AMTRAK that are profitable and get
rid of the rest instead of encouraging more people to get off the
highways and commute or vacation travel via train.

--

sf

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>> can.
>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>>> a
>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>
>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>> them.
>>
>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>
> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
> a good yardstick to measure with.

Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>> >> can.
>> >> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving
>> >> in a
>> >> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>> >
>> > You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>> > for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>> > disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>> > your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>> > people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>> > them.
>>
>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>
> You truly do not understand.

I don't think you do either.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2015 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-05-22 12:09 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:30:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that is well and truly self-evident to anybody here who
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> read enough of your posts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? Some people enjoy such things. I don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What DO you enjoy? Seriously?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She obviously doesn't get the attention at home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting how many people think I'm a lonely old shrew because
>>>>>> I don't have a husband. If I had a husband such as Julie describes
>>>>>> I'd have walked out long ago. Oh wait, I did! I don't put up with
>>>>>> that kind of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you inherited a house. I got nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone
>>>> else. Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who
>>>> mows the lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to
>>>> time. Nothing about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some
>>>> people think it means that.
>>>
>>> Why would that bother me?
>>
>> You're the one who said "But you inherited a house. I got nothing."
>> Sounds like sour grapes to me.
>>
>> I remind you again, sorry, but nothing in life is FREE.
>>
>>> I don't care what you or anyone else does.
>>> Yeah, you're paying all of the things that everyone else on the face of
>>> this earth pays. But not a house payment.
>>
>> I chose NOT to have a house payment. I didn't mind renting. I loved my
>> last apartment. Unlike some people here I did not have or worry about
>> yearly rent increases. I don't think they'd raised the rent in three or
>> four years.
>>
>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment. Bet
>> you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car in
>> 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>
> A car note of three? What does that mean? We have three cars. Angela
> purchased one with cash. I think my husband's is paid off. I don't
> really know. He is making payments on mine for the time being. He is
> still owed a very large chunk of change from the VA. In my entire
> lifetime I have had 4 cars and two vans. I financed two of the cars but
> they were paid off quickly. Three cars were used. I traded one car in
> for a van and the remainder was financed but it was paid off in a matter
> of months. The van that I got when we moved here was an emergency
> purchase, paid for in cash. Why do you have a problem with making payments
> for things? Doesn't make a person any worse or better because they are
> making payments.
>
> And please don't tell me that nothing in life is free. Plenty is. You
> just don't know where to look for it.
>>
>>> I am getting disability.
>>
>> Uh huh.
>>
>>> can't work. I have limited income and that wouldn't be enough for me to
>>> rent or buy anything on my own. Get it? If not, oh well. Stick a fork
>>> in it. I'm done.
>>
>> Yeah... until the next sob story. Meanwhile, I'll be grilling some corn
>> on the cob. Sorry, I don't feel like grilling more salmon just yet.
>
> What sob story? I am just sick of you acting like you think you are
> better than me. You sure are not!

+1


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Sky wrote:
>
> OB Food: Does any one know of a source for "powdered" (finely grated ?)
> dark chocolate ? To make a mocha ?

Use cocoa... Penseys is best... I like their natural cocoa better than
their Dutch process. "Strong, dark chocolate flavor--our top choice.
High fat cocoa is the richest grade of cocoa available in the world
today."
https://www.penzeys.com/online-catal...-24/p-913/pd-s

On 2015-05-24 5:55 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> Yeah... until the next sob story. Meanwhile, I'll be grilling some
>>> corn on the cob. Sorry, I don't feel like grilling more salmon just
>>> yet.
>>
>> What sob story? I am just sick of you acting like you think you are
>> better than me. You sure are not!
>
> +1



Well look at that. Her user name has been altered enough to slip past
the KF for the sisterhood of stupidity. More than 80 lines of quoted
text to add two characters. Into the twit filter under this newest change.

On 24/05/2015 1:43 PM, Username wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2015 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:49 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-05-22 12:09 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 May 2015 20:30:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that is well and truly self-evident to anybody here who
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> read enough of your posts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? Some people enjoy such things. I don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What DO you enjoy? Seriously?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She obviously doesn't get the attention at home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting how many people think I'm a lonely old shrew because
>>>>>> I don't have a husband. If I had a husband such as Julie describes
>>>>>> I'd have walked out long ago. Oh wait, I did! I don't put up with
>>>>>> that kind of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you inherited a house. I got nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Is that what bothers you? Got news for you, inherited houses are not
>>>> free. Even if I didn't live in a gated community with HOA fees and
>>>> goofy rules I'd still have to pay the same monthly bills as anyone
>>>> else. Electricity, water, phone, cable, property taxes, the guy who
>>>> mows the lawn. I still have to call a repair person from time to
>>>> time. Nothing about inheriting a house is free. It's funny how some
>>>> people think it means that.
>>>
>>> Why would that bother me?
>>
>> You're the one who said "But you inherited a house. I got nothing."
>> Sounds like sour grapes to me.
>>
>> I remind you again, sorry, but nothing in life is FREE.
>>
>>> I don't care what you or anyone else does.
>>> Yeah, you're paying all of the things that everyone else on the face of
>>> this earth pays. But not a house payment.
>>
>> I chose NOT to have a house payment. I didn't mind renting. I loved
>> my last apartment. Unlike some people here I did not have or worry
>> about yearly rent increases. I don't think they'd raised the rent in
>> three or four years.
>>
>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
>> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
>> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>>
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/

Why not? Hyundais aren't all that cheap! In fact they are cheap and
nasty. You would lose a motza on depreciation and repair bills. Pay a
little more for a Toyota and get a decent car for the money. Oh, Toyota
are not too heavy on depreciation or repair bills either.

--

Xeno.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:34:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >> >> can.
> >> >> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving
> >> >> in a
> >> >> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >> >
> >> > You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> >> > for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> >> > disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> >> > your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> >> > people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> >> > them.
> >>
> >> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> >> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
> >
> > You truly do not understand.
>
> I don't think you do either.

I'm not thinking as simplistically as you are. You seem to think it's
free if money doesn't exchange hands. You're a consumer, you pay
taxes and you're the one paying for that so called free lunch. As a
tax payer, I don't object to feeding people who are poor or incapable
of buying/cooking their own food. You are neither and I object to you
leaching off the public's largess (generosity).

--

sf

On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >>>> can.
> >>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
> >>>> a
> >>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >>>
> >>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> >>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> >>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> >>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> >>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> >>> them.
> >>
> >> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> >> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
> >
> > Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
> > others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
> > that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
> > a good yardstick to measure with.
>
> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?

To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
it is intended.

--

sf

On 5/24/2015 9:50 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 24/05/2015 1:43 PM, Username wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
>>> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
>>> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>
>> A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:
>>
>> http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/
>
That's just too funny for words. The consumers with negative reviews of
that year/model are negligible. I have never had a major problem with
the 2002 Hyundai and hey, this is 2015. I love the gas milage, the
style and the hatch-back trunk with plenty of storage room.

I did have to have part of the clutch assembly replaced last year.
Other than that, just routine oil/fluid changes and new tires. IOW, I
got a great little car, all that I need, and didn't pay a fortune for it.

> Pay a little more for a Toyota and get a decent car for the money. Oh, Toyota
> are not too heavy on depreciation or repair bills either.
>
I owned a couple of Toyotas before I bought the Hyundai. I don't much
care about depreciation because I do not buy a new car every year or two
so I'm not worried about resale or trade-in value. I'll drive it until
it starts giving me expensive or repeat problems. Until then I won't be
shopping for a new car. Why should I? It gets me from point A to point
B and back. That's all I need a car to do.

Jill

On 5/24/2015 7:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-05-24 5:55 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>> Yeah... until the next sob story. Meanwhile, I'll be grilling some
>>>> corn on the cob. Sorry, I don't feel like grilling more salmon just
>>>> yet.
>>>
>>> What sob story? I am just sick of you acting like you think you are
>>> better than me. You sure are not!
>>
>> +1
>
>
>
> Well look at that. Her user name has been altered enough to slip past
> the KF for the sisterhood of stupidity. More than 80 lines of quoted
> text to add two characters. Into the twit filter under this newest change.
>
>
Bugger off, misogynist.

On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>>>> can.
>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
>>> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
>>> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
>>> a good yardstick to measure with.
>>
>> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?
>
> To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
> instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
> it is intended.
>

If she's on disability is she not "infirm" by definition?

On 5/24/2015 9:07 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:34:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>>>> can.
>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>>>
>>> You truly do not understand.
>>
>> I don't think you do either.
>
> I'm not thinking as simplistically as you are. You seem to think it's
> free if money doesn't exchange hands. You're a consumer, you pay
> taxes and you're the one paying for that so called free lunch. As a
> tax payer, I don't object to feeding people who are poor or incapable
> of buying/cooking their own food. You are neither and I object to you
> leaching off the public's largess (generosity).
>

She said she is on disability.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:26:19 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 9:50 AM, Xeno wrote:
> > On 24/05/2015 1:43 PM, Username wrote:
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
> >>> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
> >>> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>>
> >>
> >> A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:
> >>
> >> http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/
> >
> That's just too funny for words. The consumers with negative reviews of
> that year/model are negligible. I have never had a major problem with
> the 2002 Hyundai and hey, this is 2015. I love the gas milage, the
> style and the hatch-back trunk with plenty of storage room.
>
> I did have to have part of the clutch assembly replaced last year.
> Other than that, just routine oil/fluid changes and new tires. IOW, I
> got a great little car, all that I need, and didn't pay a fortune for it.
>
> > Pay a little more for a Toyota and get a decent car for the money. Oh, Toyota
> > are not too heavy on depreciation or repair bills either.
> >
> I owned a couple of Toyotas before I bought the Hyundai. I don't much
> care about depreciation because I do not buy a new car every year or two
> so I'm not worried about resale or trade-in value. I'll drive it until
> it starts giving me expensive or repeat problems. Until then I won't be
> shopping for a new car. Why should I? It gets me from point A to point
> B and back. That's all I need a car to do.
>

Hubby says the quality of Hyundai has improved steadily over the
years. I only know that when you look at one, it's a mini-version of
some high priced European car (like Mercedes).

--

sf

On 5/24/2015 11:21 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:26:19 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 9:50 AM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 24/05/2015 1:43 PM, Username wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/22/2015 10:16 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> My father paid cash for this house. He also never had a car payment.
>>>>> Bet you have a car note of three, too. Gee, I don't. I bought my car
>>>>> in 2003 and paid it off within a month.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people wouldn't have a car payment if they bought these:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/accen...sumer-reviews/
>>>
>> That's just too funny for words. The consumers with negative reviews of
>> that year/model are negligible. I have never had a major problem with
>> the 2002 Hyundai and hey, this is 2015. I love the gas milage, the
>> style and the hatch-back trunk with plenty of storage room.
>>
>> I did have to have part of the clutch assembly replaced last year.
>> Other than that, just routine oil/fluid changes and new tires. IOW, I
>> got a great little car, all that I need, and didn't pay a fortune for it.
>>
>>> Pay a little more for a Toyota and get a decent car for the money. Oh, Toyota
>>> are not too heavy on depreciation or repair bills either.
>>>
>> I owned a couple of Toyotas before I bought the Hyundai. I don't much
>> care about depreciation because I do not buy a new car every year or two
>> so I'm not worried about resale or trade-in value. I'll drive it until
>> it starts giving me expensive or repeat problems. Until then I won't be
>> shopping for a new car. Why should I? It gets me from point A to point
>> B and back. That's all I need a car to do.
>>
>
> Hubby says the quality of Hyundai has improved steadily over the
> years. I only know that when you look at one, it's a mini-version of
> some high priced European car (like Mercedes).
>

They're getting top $ for their K-900.

And it may be worth it.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:19:25 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >>>>>> can.
> >>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> >>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> >>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> >>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> >>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> >>>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> >>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
> >>>
> >>> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
> >>> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
> >>> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
> >>> a good yardstick to measure with.
> >>
> >> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?
> >
> > To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
> > instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
> > it is intended.
> >
>
> If she's on disability is she not "infirm" by definition?

She claims to be capable.

--

sf

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:20:09 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 9:07 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:34:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "sf" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >>>>>> can.
> >>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving
> >>>>>> in a
> >>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> >>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> >>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> >>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> >>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> >>>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> >>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
> >>>
> >>> You truly do not understand.
> >>
> >> I don't think you do either.
> >
> > I'm not thinking as simplistically as you are. You seem to think it's
> > free if money doesn't exchange hands. You're a consumer, you pay
> > taxes and you're the one paying for that so called free lunch. As a
> > tax payer, I don't object to feeding people who are poor or incapable
> > of buying/cooking their own food. You are neither and I object to you
> > leaching off the public's largess (generosity).
> >
>
> She said she is on disability.

She's not incapacitated.

--

sf

On 5/24/2015 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:19:25 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>>>>>> can.
>>>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
>>>>> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
>>>>> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
>>>>> a good yardstick to measure with.
>>>>
>>>> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?
>>>
>>> To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
>>> instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
>>> it is intended.
>>>
>>
>> If she's on disability is she not "infirm" by definition?
>
> She claims to be capable.
>
I've been hearing a different side from her lately.

Mobility issues, etc.

On 5/24/2015 12:26 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:20:09 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 9:07 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:34:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:42:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>>>>>> can.
>>>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> You truly do not understand.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you do either.
>>>
>>> I'm not thinking as simplistically as you are. You seem to think it's
>>> free if money doesn't exchange hands. You're a consumer, you pay
>>> taxes and you're the one paying for that so called free lunch. As a
>>> tax payer, I don't object to feeding people who are poor or incapable
>>> of buying/cooking their own food. You are neither and I object to you
>>> leaching off the public's largess (generosity).
>>>
>>
>> She said she is on disability.
>
> She's not incapacitated.
>
True enough.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives.
> > > Anyone can. Just stop by and say that you are interested in
> > > moving in, or moving in a loved one. They'll feed you whatever
> > > you want.
> >
> > You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> > for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> > disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> > your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> > people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> > them.
>
> My free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.

Julie, I work and always have. I don't mind a real disability person
needing help and that is what social services are for and my taxes pay
for. I expect to be able to use it when the time comes.

The fact is no one respects someone they think is taking from the
system when they could work. I AM truely disabled. I work abd pay
taxes like anyone else and expect only help in minimal ways at work
like not asking me to lift things I cant. I don't know your situation
so have no judgement on it. I can tell you if i wanted to sit on my
butt and take tax payer money to do so, I am *well* in zone to do it
legally. I chose not to do that as long as I can figure something out
and pay forward to the rest of the USA workers.
Carol

--

On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:34:07 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:19:25 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
> >>>>>>>> can.
> >>>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
> >>>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
> >>>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
> >>>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
> >>>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
> >>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
> >>>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
> >>>>> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
> >>>>> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
> >>>>> a good yardstick to measure with.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?
> >>>
> >>> To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
> >>> instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
> >>> it is intended.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If she's on disability is she not "infirm" by definition?
> >
> > She claims to be capable.
> >
> I've been hearing a different side from her lately.
>
> Mobility issues, etc.

Her "free lunch" happened when she was mobile.

Honestly, it's time her DD learned to grocery shop on her own, learned
to cook and took on some responsibility around the house. Julie could
sit with her to meal plan and help her make a shopping list on a
mobile phone app. It could just be a text app that came with the
phone or it could be like the shopping app Ophelia turned me on to
that can be accessed from any device.

--

sf

On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:10:41 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

>
> Guess who built it?
>
> Oh..that's right...corporations!
>

Point taken

> > People can't be
> > left on a side track for days and forgotten the way freight is.
>
> If you read what happens AMTRAK trains are regularly shunted to a side
> track so freight can move.
>
> It is anything but uncommon for them also to be halted for track repairs.
>
> In those instances AMTRAK contracts with private bus lines to deliver
> passengers forward.
>
> I'm a big fan of rail, but in this nation it simply does not make
> economic common sense.
>
> We're too big, too spread out, have too many other efficient travel options.

There has to be a way to pry people out of their cars and off the
roads. Given the unpalatable cattle car situation aviation has turned
into, that leaves train travel for continental USA.

--

sf

On 5/24/2015 2:54 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:34:07 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 12:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:19:25 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 9:08 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 00:33:47 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 17:27:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is also is a free lunch! I had one where my mom lives. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>> can.
>>>>>>>>>> Just stop by and say that you are interested in moving in, or moving in
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> loved one. They'll feed you whatever you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have a very simple way of looking at things. Your SSDI is paid
>>>>>>>>> for by the rest of us and you contributed before you went on
>>>>>>>>> disability and your so is your so called free lunch is paid for by
>>>>>>>>> your taxes. The free magazines are paid for by advertisers and the
>>>>>>>>> people who buy the products they advertise. You're probably one of
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *My* free lunch? Are you working? If not, then you're not paying for
>>>>>>>> anything of mine. And I don't look at ads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not that it matters, but anyone who pays taxes for anything is paying for
>>>>>>> others in various ways, including themselves if they should ever be in
>>>>>>> that situation. We're retired, and we still pay taxes so that's not really
>>>>>>> a good yardstick to measure with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, *I* pay taxes so how is my money any different?
>>>>>
>>>>> To put it clearly enough so even you can understand: buy your own food
>>>>> instead of taking it out of the mouths of the poor and infirm for whom
>>>>> it is intended.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If she's on disability is she not "infirm" by definition?
>>>
>>> She claims to be capable.
>>>
>> I've been hearing a different side from her lately.
>>
>> Mobility issues, etc.
>
> Her "free lunch" happened when she was mobile.

Wow, one free lunch and this is the result?

> Honestly, it's time her DD learned to grocery shop on her own, learned
> to cook and took on some responsibility around the house. Julie could
> sit with her to meal plan and help her make a shopping list on a
> mobile phone app. It could just be a text app that came with the
> phone or it could be like the shopping app Ophelia turned me on to
> that can be accessed from any device.

Sound advice!