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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 1:48 PM, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> On 5/19/2015 11:35 AM, MaryL wrote: >> On 5/19/2015 11:52 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 11:16:48 -0500, MaryL >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a couple of LED lanterns, but I only have flashlights that use >>>>> regular alkaline batteries. I will check into LED flashlights now >>>>> that >>>>> you have mentioned them. I live in East Texas, and it was extremely >>>>> hot >>>>> both times that we lost power for extended periods; so a number of >>>>> those >>>>> batteries went for two portable fans that operate on several D >>>>> batteries. It can get very hot in a house that is sitting in weather >>>>> conditions with triple-digit temperature and high humidity. I did >>>>> open >>>>> windows, but that was of limited value during those times. >>>>> >>>>> MaryL >>>> >>>> The LED lamps and flashlights are excellent. I found one under the >>>> seat of my car yesterday, been there for maybe 8/9 years. Squeezed >>>> the gizmo that operates it and lo and behold, still working  That>>>> was one of the type you can squeeze about ten times and then it runs >>>> on that for ten minutes. I had put it in the car thinking sometime it >>>> might be very useful >>> >>> We have several lamps, radio and torches that don't need batteries. We >>> can just wind them up, so if all else fails ... >>> >>> >>> >> I also have several of those wind-up items, but none work well for me. A >> problem is that I have vision problems and arthritis in my hands, so >> that alone has caused difficulty when I try to "crank" those items. My >> favorite flashlights are a Coleman model that have an oval-shaped lens. >> They are bright, and the shape means they will not roll if placed on >> an uneven surface. I have several because I keep one on both sides of >> each bed (my own and also guest beds so that guests can find their way >> around in the dark). They also do not require strength to turn on the >> light, which is very important because of arthritis. >> >> I am interested in looking at LED flashlights. In fact, I checked into >> it on amazon.com after I read some messages in this thread. However, >> most of them looked very small. I want the standard size (or what used >> to be standard) because it is difficult for me to grasp something small. >> It is difficult to see what the diameter is on amazon, so I will >> probably go to Walmart and Lowe's soon. >> >> MaryL >> >> >> MaryL >> > > > Give this beauty some thought: > > http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-8D...ntern/21156007 > > Two light settings super easy to turn on and off, and stable. Looks good. In fact, it looks similar to a couple that I already have except that mine are fluorescent. I'm also interested in seeing some LED flashlights (but not the small ones). MaryL |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 12:33 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >>>>>>>>>>>> keep a >>>>>>>>>>>> year's >>>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >>>>>>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >>>>>>>>>>> whole lot >>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the lot at >>>>>>>>>>> once, >>>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the shelf to >>>>>>>>>>> use and >>>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's supply >>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work and >>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>> that would involve ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is getting >>>>>>>> fed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I empty my >>>>>>> store. >>>>>>> Would you give your house away? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every couple of >>>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's liberating! >>>>> >>>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise just >>>>> after your clearout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I might come over and beg a bit... >>> >>> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>>> >> >> Aw, thankee! > > Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )> > We could use a lot more of that kind of attitude in this nation, trust me. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"Roy" > wrote in message ... > On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 12:39:12 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote: >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> >> ... >> >>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> >>>> ... >> >>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> >>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> >>>>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >> >>>>>>>>>>> keep a >> >>>>>>>>>>> year's >> >>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >> >>>>>>>>>>> take a >> >>>>>>>>>>> lot of >> >>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >> >>>>>>>>>> whole lot >> >>>>>>>>>> before >> >>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the lot >> >>>>>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>>>>> once, >> >>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the shelf >> >>>>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>>> use and >> >>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >> >>>>>>>>>> isn't a >> >>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's supply >> >>>>>>>>> to a >> >>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work and >> >>>>>>>> cost >> >>>>>>>> that would involve ... >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is getting >> >>>>>>> fed. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I empty my >> >>>>>> store. >> >>>>>> Would you give your house away? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every couple of >> >>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It's liberating! >> >>>> >> >>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise just >> >>>> after your clearout. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> I might come over and beg a bit... >> >> >> >> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>> >> >> > >> > Aw, thankee! >> >> Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )>> >> >> -- >> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ > > I'm sure you're not a Scrooge but even if you were, you'd be an adorable > one. > Ahahahahahaha > ============== ;-) Cheeky! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 12:33 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep a >>>>>>>>>>>>> year's >>>>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >>>>>>>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the lot at >>>>>>>>>>>> once, >>>>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the shelf >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> use and >>>>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's supply >>>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work and >>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>> that would involve ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is getting >>>>>>>>> fed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I empty my >>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>> Would you give your house away? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every couple of >>>>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's liberating! >>>>>> >>>>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise just >>>>>> after your clearout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I might come over and beg a bit... >>>> >>>> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>>>> >>> >>> Aw, thankee! >> >> Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )>> >> > We could use a lot more of that kind of attitude in this nation, trust me. I don't understand. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 1:24 PM, MaryL wrote:
> On 5/19/2015 1:48 PM, Cabrito del Bosque wrote: >> On 5/19/2015 11:35 AM, MaryL wrote: >>> On 5/19/2015 11:52 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 11:16:48 -0500, MaryL >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a couple of LED lanterns, but I only have flashlights that use >>>>>> regular alkaline batteries. I will check into LED flashlights now >>>>>> that >>>>>> you have mentioned them. I live in East Texas, and it was extremely >>>>>> hot >>>>>> both times that we lost power for extended periods; so a number of >>>>>> those >>>>>> batteries went for two portable fans that operate on several D >>>>>> batteries. It can get very hot in a house that is sitting in weather >>>>>> conditions with triple-digit temperature and high humidity. I did >>>>>> open >>>>>> windows, but that was of limited value during those times. >>>>>> >>>>>> MaryL >>>>> >>>>> The LED lamps and flashlights are excellent. I found one under the >>>>> seat of my car yesterday, been there for maybe 8/9 years. Squeezed >>>>> the gizmo that operates it and lo and behold, still working That>>>>> was one of the type you can squeeze about ten times and then it runs >>>>> on that for ten minutes. I had put it in the car thinking sometime it >>>>> might be very useful >>>> >>>> We have several lamps, radio and torches that don't need batteries. We >>>> can just wind them up, so if all else fails ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I also have several of those wind-up items, but none work well for me. A >>> problem is that I have vision problems and arthritis in my hands, so >>> that alone has caused difficulty when I try to "crank" those items. My >>> favorite flashlights are a Coleman model that have an oval-shaped lens. >>> They are bright, and the shape means they will not roll if placed on >>> an uneven surface. I have several because I keep one on both sides of >>> each bed (my own and also guest beds so that guests can find their way >>> around in the dark). They also do not require strength to turn on the >>> light, which is very important because of arthritis. >>> >>> I am interested in looking at LED flashlights. In fact, I checked into >>> it on amazon.com after I read some messages in this thread. However, >>> most of them looked very small. I want the standard size (or what used >>> to be standard) because it is difficult for me to grasp something small. >>> It is difficult to see what the diameter is on amazon, so I will >>> probably go to Walmart and Lowe's soon. >>> >>> MaryL >>> >>> >>> MaryL >>> >> >> >> Give this beauty some thought: >> >> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-8D...ntern/21156007 >> >> Two light settings super easy to turn on and off, and stable. > > Looks good. In fact, it looks similar to a couple that I already have > except that mine are fluorescent. I'm also interested in seeing some > LED flashlights (but not the small ones). > > MaryL > Wal Mart almost always has a great selection of LED lights and lanterns. This Coleman is very nicely made. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 1:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/19/2015 12:33 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> year's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot at >>>>>>>>>>>>> once, >>>>>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf to >>>>>>>>>>>>> use and >>>>>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's supply >>>>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work and >>>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>>> that would involve ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is getting >>>>>>>>>> fed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I empty my >>>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>>> Would you give your house away? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every couple of >>>>>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's liberating! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise just >>>>>>> after your clearout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I might come over and beg a bit... >>>>> >>>>> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>>>>> >>>> >>>> Aw, thankee! >>> >>> Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )>>> >>> >> We could use a lot more of that kind of attitude in this nation, trust >> me. > > I don't understand. > Charity begins at home, many of us don't seem to get that any more. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 8:11 AM, MaryL wrote:
> > I also learned during those events to keep *lots* of batteries of > different sizes on hand. I completely ran out of batteries the first > time, and every store in town sold out the first day. Now, I keep lots > of batteries, but I do cycle through them by putting the first > expiration dates at the front. Fortunately, batteries last longer than they used to when sitting in storage. If you have not already, look at the LED lanterns. The one I have takes D cells and on low can last up to 72 hours on a set of batteries and is bright. On high, it will last I think 36 hours and is very bright. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 1:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/19/2015 12:33 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> once, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's >>>>>>>>>>>>> supply >>>>>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work and >>>>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>>>> that would involve ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is >>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>> fed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I empty my >>>>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>>>> Would you give your house away? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every couple >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's liberating! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> after your clearout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I might come over and beg a bit... >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aw, thankee! >>>> >>>> Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )>>>> >>>> >>> We could use a lot more of that kind of attitude in this nation, trust >>> me. >> >> I don't understand. >> > > Charity begins at home, many of us don't seem to get that any more. To be charitable, one needs a secure base from which to work. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 1:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/19/2015 1:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 5/19/2015 12:33 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 5/19/2015 10:49 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On 5/19/2015 1:37 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:24 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 3:06 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/18/2015 2:31 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You got it too easy. A lot of Samoans around here have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply of food in their houses. Rotating that stock would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time and eatin'. Now that's a stockpile! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep several months supply but you don't have to use the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can start again you know?? You don't have to eat the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just do it bit by bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once a month (for example) you take a few tins from the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shelf to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy replacements which you put at the back of the shelf. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major undertaking. It is a work in progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus the really good thing you can do is donate a year's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> local food bank, then reload, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose you could if you really wanted but ohhhh the work >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>>>>> that would involve ... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> True enough, but it feels good to know someone in need is >>>>>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>>> fed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of course and we give plenty to charity, but why would I >>>>>>>>>>> empty my >>>>>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>>>>> Would you give your house away? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I like to do is sett all the pantry items free every >>>>>>>>>> couple of >>>>>>>>>> years prior to expiry dates. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's liberating! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good for you. I won't ask what will happen should tragedy arise >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> after your clearout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I might come over and beg a bit... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am sure you wouldn't have to beg )>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Aw, thankee! >>>>> >>>>> Well just because I keep a good store doesn't mean I am scrooge )>>>>> >>>>> >>>> We could use a lot more of that kind of attitude in this nation, trust >>>> me. >>> >>> I don't understand. >>> >> >> Charity begins at home, many of us don't seem to get that any more. > > To be charitable, one needs a secure base from which to work. > You are 100% on the money, so to speak ;-) |
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On 5/19/2015 1:35 PM, MaryL wrote:
> > I am interested in looking at LED flashlights. In fact, I checked into > it on amazon.com after I read some messages in this thread. However, > most of them looked very small. I want the standard size (or what used > to be standard) because it is difficult for me to grasp something small. > It is difficult to see what the diameter is on amazon, so I will > probably go to Walmart and Lowe's soon. > > MaryL I have a few CREE led lights from Amazon. I paid $3.25 including shipping from China. The fat half is just over 1" diameter, the narrow end is about 7/8". LED lights take little power so they are made for AA batteries in many cases. The Dorcy light is 2.2" though http://www.amazon.com/Dorcy-Waterpro...led+flashlight |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:35:11 -0500, MaryL
> wrote: >On 5/19/2015 11:52 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 11:16:48 -0500, MaryL >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I have a couple of LED lanterns, but I only have flashlights that use >>>> regular alkaline batteries. I will check into LED flashlights now that >>>> you have mentioned them. I live in East Texas, and it was extremely hot >>>> both times that we lost power for extended periods; so a number of those >>>> batteries went for two portable fans that operate on several D >>>> batteries. It can get very hot in a house that is sitting in weather >>>> conditions with triple-digit temperature and high humidity. I did open >>>> windows, but that was of limited value during those times. >>>> >>>> MaryL >>> >>> The LED lamps and flashlights are excellent. I found one under the >>> seat of my car yesterday, been there for maybe 8/9 years. Squeezed >>> the gizmo that operates it and lo and behold, still working That>>> was one of the type you can squeeze about ten times and then it runs >>> on that for ten minutes. I had put it in the car thinking sometime it >>> might be very useful >> >> We have several lamps, radio and torches that don't need batteries. We >> can just wind them up, so if all else fails ... >> >> >> >I also have several of those wind-up items, but none work well for me. >A problem is that I have vision problems and arthritis in my hands, so >that alone has caused difficulty when I try to "crank" those items. My >favorite flashlights are a Coleman model that have an oval-shaped lens. > They are bright, and the shape means they will not roll if placed on >an uneven surface. I have several because I keep one on both sides of >each bed (my own and also guest beds so that guests can find their way >around in the dark). They also do not require strength to turn on the >light, which is very important because of arthritis. > >I am interested in looking at LED flashlights. In fact, I checked into >it on amazon.com after I read some messages in this thread. However, >most of them looked very small. I want the standard size (or what used >to be standard) because it is difficult for me to grasp something small. > It is difficult to see what the diameter is on amazon, so I will >probably go to Walmart and Lowe's soon. > >MaryL > > >MaryL Buy the highest Lumens that you can get. Current lumens size is generally 100 or above. (inexpensive) Higher lumens is available. Lumens is the brightness you get. Costco sells them in packages of 3 flashlights for under $20. Janet US |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 17:00:33 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> wrote: snip > >We bought flood insurance and holy cow was that a chunk of change!! Flood Zone One bites, doesn't it? Janet US |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
Julie Bove wrote:
> > Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No need to > heat it. Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. |
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Julie Bove wrote:
> > I don't happen to think that my place is hard to find but a lot of people > do. Including such people as plumbers and delivery people. You'd think in > this day and age, everyone would have a GPS but they don't. What's a GPS? ;-D Just kidding but I don't have one and I get to every place that I'm going to easily without one with no problem at all. |
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On 5/18/2015 9:40 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... > >>>> I got the Kirkland brand Stretch-tite wrap in the 3000 feet roll. It's >>>> great stuff - they don't call it stretch-tite for nothing! I'll >>>> probably >>>> delaminate before that box does. Hee hee. >>> >>> LOL! >>> >>> Kirkland makes a lot of really great stuff. >>> >>> I think that's what we're using now - yellow and blue box, iirc. >> >> That would be right. It also has a neat sliding blade thingie. >> Everybody should have one of these in their home! > > I have one of those but the slidey thingy broke, so I stretch the wrap > over it and run a knife blade along the groove. > There's so much wrap in there that the slidey thing will break or lose its edge long before you get to the end. Those things should come with a couple of refill blades. Hee hee. |
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On 5/19/2015 1:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote: >> >> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No need to >> heat it. > > Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening > a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating > and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and > needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound > like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. > As long as she's not into the cat food... |
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"dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 5/18/2015 9:40 PM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>>> I got the Kirkland brand Stretch-tite wrap in the 3000 feet roll. It's >>>>> great stuff - they don't call it stretch-tite for nothing! I'll >>>>> probably >>>>> delaminate before that box does. Hee hee. >>>> >>>> LOL! >>>> >>>> Kirkland makes a lot of really great stuff. >>>> >>>> I think that's what we're using now - yellow and blue box, iirc. >>> >>> That would be right. It also has a neat sliding blade thingie. >>> Everybody should have one of these in their home! >> >> I have one of those but the slidey thingy broke, so I stretch the wrap >> over it and run a knife blade along the groove. >> > > There's so much wrap in there that the slidey thing will break or lose its > edge long before you get to the end. Those things should come with a > couple of refill blades. Hee hee. No need, I told you, I run a knife along the groove to cut it. I do mean the small thing with the blade in it, yes? Not the long bit that fits over the edge with the groove along the top. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/18/2015 9:40 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>>>> I got the Kirkland brand Stretch-tite wrap in the 3000 feet roll. >>>>>> It's >>>>>> great stuff - they don't call it stretch-tite for nothing! I'll >>>>>> probably >>>>>> delaminate before that box does. Hee hee. >>>>> >>>>> LOL! >>>>> >>>>> Kirkland makes a lot of really great stuff. >>>>> >>>>> I think that's what we're using now - yellow and blue box, iirc. >>>> >>>> That would be right. It also has a neat sliding blade thingie. >>>> Everybody should have one of these in their home! >>> >>> I have one of those but the slidey thingy broke, so I stretch the wrap >>> over it and run a knife blade along the groove. >>> >> >> There's so much wrap in there that the slidey thing will break or lose >> its edge long before you get to the end. Those things should come with a >> couple of refill blades. Hee hee. > > No need, I told you, I run a knife along the groove to cut it. I do mean > the small thing with the blade in it, yes? Not the long bit that fits > over the edge with the groove along the top. errr or is that the other way round ... anyway the little blade is broken so I use a knife -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Julie Bove wrote: >> >> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No need to >> heat it. > > Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening > a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating > and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and > needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound > like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. So? Do you really think those canned vegetables are going to be any better when heated? Now some things, I would heat. Like potatoes. But things like beans, corn and peas are fine at room temp. or chilled. Look at any salad bar. They're there! |
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"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 7:06 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2015-05-18 10:13 PM, wrote: >> >>> It's quite safe inside a house if you're only heating something up for >>> a few minutes. >>> >> >> >> Feel free to do so. I would not use one in a house. Carbon Monoxide is a >> silent killer. They are for outdoor use only. >> > > Open a window...sheesh... Every winter we have warnings on the news not to use indoors. I don't have one. Don't need one. Don't want one. So... |
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On 5/19/2015 3:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/19/2015 7:06 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>> On 2015-05-18 10:13 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> It's quite safe inside a house if you're only heating something up for >>>> a few minutes. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Feel free to do so. I would not use one in a house. Carbon Monoxide is a >>> silent killer. They are for outdoor use only. >>> >> >> Open a window...sheesh... > > Every winter we have warnings on the news not to use indoors. I don't > have one. Don't need one. Don't want one. So... It's no worse than using a stove with gas burners, seriously. |
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On 5/19/2015 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/18/2015 9:40 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>>>>> I got the Kirkland brand Stretch-tite wrap in the 3000 feet roll. >>>>>> It's >>>>>> great stuff - they don't call it stretch-tite for nothing! I'll >>>>>> probably >>>>>> delaminate before that box does. Hee hee. >>>>> >>>>> LOL! >>>>> >>>>> Kirkland makes a lot of really great stuff. >>>>> >>>>> I think that's what we're using now - yellow and blue box, iirc. >>>> >>>> That would be right. It also has a neat sliding blade thingie. >>>> Everybody should have one of these in their home! >>> >>> I have one of those but the slidey thingy broke, so I stretch the wrap >>> over it and run a knife blade along the groove. >>> >> >> There's so much wrap in there that the slidey thing will break or lose >> its edge long before you get to the end. Those things should come with >> a couple of refill blades. Hee hee. > > No need, I told you, I run a knife along the groove to cut it. I do > mean the small thing with the blade in it, yes? Not the long bit that > fits over the edge with the groove along the top. > That's true. Brilliant folks like us don't need spares. I'd tape a razor blade to the box. I like razor blades. |
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"dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 10:57 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/18/2015 9:40 PM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> >>>>>>> I got the Kirkland brand Stretch-tite wrap in the 3000 feet roll. >>>>>>> It's >>>>>>> great stuff - they don't call it stretch-tite for nothing! I'll >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> delaminate before that box does. Hee hee. >>>>>> >>>>>> LOL! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kirkland makes a lot of really great stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that's what we're using now - yellow and blue box, iirc. >>>>> >>>>> That would be right. It also has a neat sliding blade thingie. >>>>> Everybody should have one of these in their home! >>>> >>>> I have one of those but the slidey thingy broke, so I stretch the wrap >>>> over it and run a knife blade along the groove. >>>> >>> >>> There's so much wrap in there that the slidey thing will break or lose >>> its edge long before you get to the end. Those things should come with >>> a couple of refill blades. Hee hee. >> >> No need, I told you, I run a knife along the groove to cut it. I do >> mean the small thing with the blade in it, yes? Not the long bit that >> fits over the edge with the groove along the top. >> > > That's true. Brilliant folks like us don't need spares. I'd tape a razor > blade to the box. I like razor blades. Do you indeed? <g> -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Bruce" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 19 May 2015 13:24:28 +0100, "Ophelia" > > wrote: > >> >> >>"Bruce" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 07:11:14 -0500, MaryL >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>I also learned during those events to keep *lots* of batteries of >>>>different sizes on hand. I completely ran out of batteries the first >>>>time, and every store in town sold out the first day. Now, I keep lots >>>>of batteries, but I do cycle through them by putting the first >>>>expiration dates at the front. I also keep several gallons of bottled >>>>water. I do not use bottled water except when I am traveling, but that >>>>would be the most important item in the event of a true emergency. >>> >>> We tend to get -one day max- power outages when there's rain, wind or >>> any other type of weather. Batteries or candles are high on our list >>> too. >> >>Loads here too as well as water. We have suitcase solar panels too which >>work well in other situations too. > > We're on rain water tanks, so water we can always get to. I'm thinking > about getting a generator, though. It happens a bit too often and I > work from home and need electricity for that as well. We have 2 Gennies, one is a 2kw 4 stroke petrol, the other a 1.8 diesel. The petrol one for off grid sites with the caravan and the diesel is for either power cuts at home, or for use with the electric chain saw etc. Useful pieces of kit. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 3:31:30 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Janet" > wrote in message > t... > > In article >, says... > >> > >> "Janet" > wrote in message > >> t... > >> > > >> > Julie wrote > >> > > >> >> > Yes! You never know when someone might get sick or go into the > >> >> > hospital. > >> >> > In some cases you'll be stuck at home with them or going to the > >> >> > hospital > >> >> > so often there is no time to go buy food. > >> > > >> > Where I live, that's the last problem anyone has in that situation. > >> > Their main problem is answering the phone/door to all the people > >> > bringing food they made, offering to do shopping housework and laundry, > >> > cook meals, walk the dog etc. > >> > >> What? People come to the door bringing food that they made? Hahaha. > > > > Yes, this is a long held tradition in much of Scotland (and Ireland) > > > > *I* > >> am pretty much the only person I know around here who makes food. > > > > Most people bring home made comfort food; usual offerings are homely > > stuff like soup, pies, home baking, rice pudding. > > > > Some of > >> my friends do cook but they don't live anywhere near me. > > > > This tradition is not about "friends"; its a community thing. Total > > strangers offer and are offered the same support. > > That's just creepy! Nobody would do anything like that here and most people > sure wouldn't accept such food. Creepy??? Good Lord, in our neck of the woods, that is consideration, friendliness, neighborliness, and consolation to the family who have lost a loved one. If in the USA it should mean the same thing and does as far as I know. You must live in a strange part of Washington. My Dad's folks came from Washington over a century ago and they certainly practiced these acts of kindness. They were strict Methodists...fortunately I have not followed that path. =========== |
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On 5/19/2015 4:00 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 3:31:30 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote: >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> t... >>> In article >, says... >>>> >>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>> t... >>>>> >>>>> Julie wrote >>>>> >>>>>>> Yes! You never know when someone might get sick or go into the >>>>>>> hospital. >>>>>>> In some cases you'll be stuck at home with them or going to the >>>>>>> hospital >>>>>>> so often there is no time to go buy food. >>>>> >>>>> Where I live, that's the last problem anyone has in that situation. >>>>> Their main problem is answering the phone/door to all the people >>>>> bringing food they made, offering to do shopping housework and laundry, >>>>> cook meals, walk the dog etc. >>>> >>>> What? People come to the door bringing food that they made? Hahaha. >>> >>> Yes, this is a long held tradition in much of Scotland (and Ireland) >>> >>> *I* >>>> am pretty much the only person I know around here who makes food. >>> >>> Most people bring home made comfort food; usual offerings are homely >>> stuff like soup, pies, home baking, rice pudding. >>> >>> Some of >>>> my friends do cook but they don't live anywhere near me. >>> >>> This tradition is not about "friends"; its a community thing. Total >>> strangers offer and are offered the same support. >> >> That's just creepy! Nobody would do anything like that here and most people >> sure wouldn't accept such food. > > Creepy??? Good Lord, in our neck of the woods, that is consideration, friendliness, neighborliness, and consolation to the family who have lost a > loved one. If in the USA it should mean the same thing and does as far as I know. > You must live in a strange part of Washington. My Dad's folks came from > Washington over a century ago and they certainly practiced these acts of > kindness. They were strict Methodists...fortunately I have not followed > that path. > =========== > "That path" is what made them the way they were. |
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On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 3:44:09 PM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 19 May 2015 13:24:28 +0100, "Ophelia" > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>"Bruce" > wrote in message > . .. > >>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 07:11:14 -0500, MaryL > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>>I also learned during those events to keep *lots* of batteries of > >>>>different sizes on hand. I completely ran out of batteries the first > >>>>time, and every store in town sold out the first day. Now, I keep lots > >>>>of batteries, but I do cycle through them by putting the first > >>>>expiration dates at the front. I also keep several gallons of bottled > >>>>water. I do not use bottled water except when I am traveling, but that > >>>>would be the most important item in the event of a true emergency. > >>> > >>> We tend to get -one day max- power outages when there's rain, wind or > >>> any other type of weather. Batteries or candles are high on our list > >>> too. > >> > >>Loads here too as well as water. We have suitcase solar panels too which > >>work well in other situations too. > > > > We're on rain water tanks, so water we can always get to. I'm thinking > > about getting a generator, though. It happens a bit too often and I > > work from home and need electricity for that as well. > > We have 2 Gennies, one is a 2kw 4 stroke petrol, the other a 1.8 diesel. > The petrol one for off grid sites with the caravan and the diesel is for > either power cuts at home, or for use with the electric chain saw etc. > Useful pieces of kit. > > > -- > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ gennies=generators (quite often made in China) petrol=gasoline petrel=some kind of sea bird caravan=holiday trailer Grande Caravan=my crappy Dodge van kit=gear of some kind/contents of the caravan/equipment kit=a young fox |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 08:28:45 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote: >On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:14:15 +1000, Jeßus > wrote: > >>On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:11:23 -0700, "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... >>>> On 5/18/2015 5:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> Julie, get a Coleman stove to use when the power is off and have hot >>>>>> veggies. >>>>> >>>>> No! Those have to be used outside and there is propane. I am fine >>>>> eating stuff raw or straight from the can. Not a big deal. Most of the >>>>> time when I do eat canned vegetables, I just open, drain and eat. >>>> >>>> No, you can use one inside if a window is open nearby. >>> >>>That would not be likely to happen! Generally when we lose power it is >>>because it is cold and windy, rainy, snowy... >> >>Well, just pretend to open the window if it's cold and windy, rainy, >>snowy... > >Coleman says never use fueled (white gas/propane) camping >stoves/lanterns indoors, and I concur. >http://www.coleman.com/EmergencyPreparedness/ >http://www.ehow.com/how_5380295_use-...s-indoors.html You can always apply common sense. Oh, wait... >Never inside a tent either. Definitely not in a small tent. |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 09:06:52 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2015-05-18 10:13 PM, wrote: > >> It's quite safe inside a house if you're only heating something up for >> a few minutes. >> > > >Feel free to do so. I would not use one in a house. Carbon Monoxide is a >silent killer. They are for outdoor use only. Sigh. Okay then. |
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In article >, zio-web-
says... > > On Tue, 19 May 2015 08:28:45 -0400, Brooklyn1 > > wrote: > > >On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:14:15 +1000, Jeßus > > wrote: > > > >>On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:11:23 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... > >>>> On 5/18/2015 5:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > wrote in message > >>>>> ... > >>>>>> Julie, get a Coleman stove to use when the power is off and have hot > >>>>>> veggies. > >>>>> > >>>>> No! Those have to be used outside and there is propane. I am fine > >>>>> eating stuff raw or straight from the can. Not a big deal. Most of the > >>>>> time when I do eat canned vegetables, I just open, drain and eat. > >>>> > >>>> No, you can use one inside if a window is open nearby. > >>> > >>>That would not be likely to happen! Generally when we lose power it is > >>>because it is cold and windy, rainy, snowy... > >> > >>Well, just pretend to open the window if it's cold and windy, rainy, > >>snowy... > > > >Coleman says never use fueled (white gas/propane) camping > >stoves/lanterns indoors, and I concur. > >http://www.coleman.com/EmergencyPreparedness/ > >http://www.ehow.com/how_5380295_use-...s-indoors.html > > You can always apply common sense. Oh, wait... > > >Never inside a tent either. > > Definitely not in a small tent. It's amazing I'm still alive.. so many near-death cooking experiences. Who knew. When I was a child we lived in a cold house and used a kerosene room heater; as did most people we knew. I had an oldfashioned oil lamp I used to use in power cuts, wonder where thet's got to. Janet UK |
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On Wed, 20 May 2015 00:27:37 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, zio-web- says... >> >> On Tue, 19 May 2015 08:28:45 -0400, Brooklyn1 >> > wrote: >> >> >On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:14:15 +1000, Jeßus >> > wrote: >> > >> >>On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:11:23 -0700, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>> On 5/18/2015 5:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > wrote in message >> >>>>> ... >> >>>>>> Julie, get a Coleman stove to use when the power is off and have hot >> >>>>>> veggies. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> No! Those have to be used outside and there is propane. I am fine >> >>>>> eating stuff raw or straight from the can. Not a big deal. Most of the >> >>>>> time when I do eat canned vegetables, I just open, drain and eat. >> >>>> >> >>>> No, you can use one inside if a window is open nearby. >> >>> >> >>>That would not be likely to happen! Generally when we lose power it is >> >>>because it is cold and windy, rainy, snowy... >> >> >> >>Well, just pretend to open the window if it's cold and windy, rainy, >> >>snowy... >> > >> >Coleman says never use fueled (white gas/propane) camping >> >stoves/lanterns indoors, and I concur. >> >http://www.coleman.com/EmergencyPreparedness/ >> >http://www.ehow.com/how_5380295_use-...s-indoors.html >> >> You can always apply common sense. Oh, wait... >> >> >Never inside a tent either. >> >> Definitely not in a small tent. > > It's amazing I'm still alive.. so many near-death cooking experiences. >Who knew. > > When I was a child we lived in a cold house and used a kerosene room >heater; as did most people we knew. I had an oldfashioned oil lamp I >used to use in power cuts, wonder where thet's got to. Kerosene heaters were very popular in Aus when I was a kid, I can't ever recall personally knowing anybody who was harmed by them. |
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On 5/19/2015 5:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No >>> need to >>> heat it. >> >> Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening >> a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating >> and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and >> needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound >> like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. > > So? Do you really think those canned vegetables are going to be any > better when heated? Now some things, I would heat. Like potatoes. But > things like beans, corn and peas are fine at room temp. or chilled. > Look at any salad bar. They're there! Uh, except you're not at a salad bar. You're eating vegetables straight out of the can in your house. If you weren't in a house you'd come across as the equivalent of a bag lady. Please sir, do you have a can opener? Jill |
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On 5/19/2015 3:58 PM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote: >> >> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No need to >> heat it. > > Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening > a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating > and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and > needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound > like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. > Gary, when are you going to figure out she doesn't actually enjoy food? Jill |
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On 5/19/2015 7:27 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, zio-web- > says... >> >> On Tue, 19 May 2015 08:28:45 -0400, Brooklyn1 >> > wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:14:15 +1000, Jeßus >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 18 May 2015 17:11:23 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On 5/18/2015 5:24 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Julie, get a Coleman stove to use when the power is off and have hot >>>>>>>> veggies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No! Those have to be used outside and there is propane. I am fine >>>>>>> eating stuff raw or straight from the can. Not a big deal. Most of the >>>>>>> time when I do eat canned vegetables, I just open, drain and eat. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, you can use one inside if a window is open nearby. >>>>> >>>>> That would not be likely to happen! Generally when we lose power it is >>>>> because it is cold and windy, rainy, snowy... >>>> >>>> Well, just pretend to open the window if it's cold and windy, rainy, >>>> snowy... >>> >>> Coleman says never use fueled (white gas/propane) camping >>> stoves/lanterns indoors, and I concur. >>> http://www.coleman.com/EmergencyPreparedness/ >>> http://www.ehow.com/how_5380295_use-...s-indoors.html >> >> You can always apply common sense. Oh, wait... >> >>> Never inside a tent either. >> >> Definitely not in a small tent. > > It's amazing I'm still alive.. so many near-death cooking experiences. > Who knew. > > When I was a child we lived in a cold house and used a kerosene room > heater; as did most people we knew. I had an oldfashioned oil lamp I > used to use in power cuts, wonder where thet's got to. > > Janet UK > > I still have a couple of small glass oil lamps (with shades) with finger loops for carrying around. Similar to this but not nearly as old: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1616451...466&rmvSB=true http://tinyurl.com/l7qjyw4 I haven't used them in years but I do have wicks and oil (not kerosene) for them in case I need them. Jill |
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On Tue, 19 May 2015 20:15:25 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 5/19/2015 5:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No >>>> need to >>>> heat it. >>> >>> Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening >>> a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating >>> and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and >>> needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound >>> like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. >> >> So? Do you really think those canned vegetables are going to be any >> better when heated? Now some things, I would heat. Like potatoes. But >> things like beans, corn and peas are fine at room temp. or chilled. >> Look at any salad bar. They're there! > >Uh, except you're not at a salad bar. You're eating vegetables straight >out of the can in your house. If you weren't in a house you'd come >across as the equivalent of a bag lady. Please sir, do you have a can >opener? And washed down by one of 12 cans of sodas consumed each day. Food is such a joyous and positive experience in the Bove household... It really brings the family together too. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
On 5/19/2015 5:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Janet" > wrote in message > t... >> In article >, says... >>> >>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>> t... >>> > >>> > Julie wrote >>> > >>> >> > Yes! You never know when someone might get sick or go into the >>> >> > hospital. >>> >> > In some cases you'll be stuck at home with them or going to the >>> >> > hospital >>> >> > so often there is no time to go buy food. >>> > >>> > Where I live, that's the last problem anyone has in that situation. >>> > Their main problem is answering the phone/door to all the people >>> > bringing food they made, offering to do shopping housework and >>> laundry, >>> > cook meals, walk the dog etc. >>> >>> What? People come to the door bringing food that they made? Hahaha. >> >> Yes, this is a long held tradition in much of Scotland (and Ireland) >> >> *I* >>> am pretty much the only person I know around here who makes food. >> >> Most people bring home made comfort food; usual offerings are homely >> stuff like soup, pies, home baking, rice pudding. >> >> Some of >>> my friends do cook but they don't live anywhere near me. >> >> This tradition is not about "friends"; its a community thing. Total >> strangers offer and are offered the same support. > > That's just creepy! Nobody would do anything like that here and most > people sure wouldn't accept such food. There's absolutely nothing creepy about people pitching in to help each other during a crisis. It's too bad you live in a weird little insulated bubble. In 2010 the attic fan for my HVAC unit died. There was a series of not so comical mixups between the factory and the warehouse getting the part so my AC was out for four days. It was June, already quite hot here in SC. A couple of my neighbors offered to let me spend the night in their guest bedrooms until it could be repaired. I didn't find that at all "creepy", merely considerate. They probably would have tried to feed me, too. Fortunately the HVAC guys were able to bring me a portable AC unit to use in the bedroom. That's all that really bothered me, trying to sleep in excessive heat at night. Jill |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 5:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Gary" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No >>>> need to >>>> heat it. >>> >>> Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening >>> a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating >>> and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and >>> needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound >>> like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. >> >> So? Do you really think those canned vegetables are going to be any >> better when heated? Now some things, I would heat. Like potatoes. But >> things like beans, corn and peas are fine at room temp. or chilled. >> Look at any salad bar. They're there! > > Uh, except you're not at a salad bar. You're eating vegetables straight > out of the can in your house. If you weren't in a house you'd come across > as the equivalent of a bag lady. Please sir, do you have a can opener? So? What's the difference? Why does it bother you that I like them that way? I actually *prefer* them that way and so does Angela. I don't dare give them to husband like that. He's like you and prefers hot food. He even nukes potato and pasta salad. Go figure. I wouldn't have thought to do straight from the can until Angela was a toddler. I read somewhere that the perfect finger food for them was green beans straight from the can. To this day they are one of her favorite foods. And because I knew that she liked them so much, I took them with us on cross country moves. She and I could easily have a snack in our hotel room or eat at a rest stop and that way we could avoid crappy fast food. Husband refused to partake. Tastes good to me and I don't really like foo fooey foods. I like plain and simple. Somebody said to me the other day that they liked mac and cheese and chicken strips because they were plain and simple. I had to chuckle. I said that to me, plain and simple was canned green beans or an apple. That is how I roll. I do like to cook foo fooey stuff. I just don't usually like to eat it. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 3:58 PM, Gary wrote: >> Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> Why? I said that I was fine eating it straight from the can. No need >>> to >>> heat it. >> >> Just my thoughts here Julie and I'm not judging you. But just opening >> a can of vegetables and eating them cold sounds like survival eating >> and not really enjoying a meal. I did that when I was in college and >> needed a quick fix but never since those days. That doesn't sound >> like enjoyable eating at all...just survival. >> > Gary, when are you going to figure out she doesn't actually enjoy food? I do enjoy some food. However, if you discover that many foods make you ill and sometimes even something you considered to be a safe to eat food could, if eaten at the wrong time make you violently ill, you'd start to think of it as less than appealing. I do still like to cook though. And right now I am getting super frustrated because I haven't been able to do it. The few times I did cook, nobody came home to eat it. So... I went to Big Lots today. I bought canned chili, Spam, canned ravioli and a can of beef stew. The fridge is full of fresh fruits, vegetables and cheese. And the stuff that I bought to make White Castle Casserole for me. I will have to put that off again for another day because there is no room in there for the leftovers. Tonight, if husband bothers to come home for dinner, he can have chili dogs. Angela can have that and/or leftover mac and cheese or whatever she wants to rustle up. She has mostly been making her own meals now. She make guacamole from scratch last week. Found her own recipe and everything. But as for meals, no, I do not eat them to enjoy them. I pretty much eat them because I have to. If I don't, I would die. At least eventually. And I need to try to keep my blood sugar stable. |
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Why canned food is not as good as fresh
"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... > On 5/19/2015 3:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/19/2015 7:06 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>> On 2015-05-18 10:13 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's quite safe inside a house if you're only heating something up for >>>>> a few minutes. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Feel free to do so. I would not use one in a house. Carbon Monoxide is >>>> a >>>> silent killer. They are for outdoor use only. >>>> >>> >>> Open a window...sheesh... >> >> Every winter we have warnings on the news not to use indoors. I don't >> have one. Don't need one. Don't want one. So... > > It's no worse than using a stove with gas burners, seriously. Again, no need. If I do have a power outage, I can pop open a can or eat a peanut butter sandwich. Really no big deal. I have lived here for almost years now and most of the time when we do lose power due to the weather it is back on in 2-3 hours. It was out for longer when they had that planned outage and something went wrong. When I was a kid, it would go out for a week at times. But it's not like that here. If I don't get the perfect meal, it's no big deal. Another meal will come along soon enough. |
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