In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says...
>
> On Wed, 27 May 2015 15:46:39 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >, gravesend10
> says...
> >
> >> I really don't think a
> >> cooking group is a place to openly share ones personal minutia
> >>
> > As I recall, the first I knew of Jill's situation was when she was
> >having problems and asked for advice, to persuade her elderly frail
> >mother to eat or drink when she had no appetite but desperately needed
> >easily digested nutrition. A fair number of people here offered their
> >experience. I thought that a highly relevant discussion in a food group
> >as so many of us either have faced it or will face it one day.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> Discussing nutrition is one thing, constantly discussing personal
> finances and family feuds is another.

Jill posts the club menus (usually to make fun of them). That's the
"nutritional" topic that repeatedly leads to some idiots making ignorant
comments on her home, circumstances and finances.

Janet UK

On 5/27/2015 2:01 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>
>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
>>> it would sell
>>
>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
>>
>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
>> of their lives.
>>
>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
>> do-er-upper.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
> bonus. I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
> creaking wrinklies
>
But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
much rather kick back with a good book.

Jill

sf wrote:
>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>Bruce wrote:
>> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> >> Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand
>> >> alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away
>> >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex.
>> >
>> > What do you call these then?
>> > <http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg>
>> >
>> > (Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p)
>>
>> Row houses. very common in the cities
>
>In cities like Brooklyn.

Actually those would be town houses or garden apartments, row houses
are more common in Frisco. In Brooklyn most attached residences are
Brownstones. An educated person would know that Brooklyn is not a
city, that it's a borough, but if Brooklyn were a city it would be the
3rd largest city in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Brooklyn

On Wed, 27 May 2015 22:36:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:31:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/27/2015 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> > On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:41:42 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand
>>> >> alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away
>>> >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex.
>>> >
>>> > What do you call these then?
>>> > <http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg>
>>> >
>>> > (Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p)
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Row houses. very common in the cities
>>
>> In cities like Brooklyn.
>
>Not here although in recent years they have been putting a few up.

What up, and up where?

On 5/27/2015 3:42 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
>>>> it would sell
>>>
>>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
>>>
>>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
>>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
>>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
>>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
>>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
>>> of their lives.
>>>
>>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
>>> do-er-upper.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
>> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
>> bonus.
>
> Even if she could find a buyer, selling buying and moving all cost
> money, so she'd lose equity and end up buying a cheaper place than she
> sold.
>
You're absolutely right about that.

> I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
>> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
>> creaking wrinklies
>
They take a very dim view of people who simply want to buy and flip
houses, doing just the basics to make a profit.

I could ask the DIOA management about it but I'm pretty sure such people
would have to be associated with a local realtor. They don't let just
anyone come in and flip homes the way you see people doing on televison
shows.

> OTOH, the population of affluent creaking wrinklies make it a
> relatively peaceful safe and secure environment for a single woman
> (manned gatehouse? someone else cuts the grass?)
>
> Janet UK
>
LOL I don't mind the "wrinklies". I don't go out of my way to
socialize, even before I moved here. It is definitely a safe, quiet and
very pretty place. That's what my mother had in mind for me when she
left me the house.

Yes, the gatehouse is manned 24/7. That's a nice feature. I do pay the
person who cuts my grass. He cuts back the azaelas when they aren't
blooming.. He works full time for the Dataw landscaping crew. He does
some independent lawn care after his normal work hours.

Dataw pays him extra to maintain the outside appearance of foreclosed
properties. Imagine that. Foreclosures. Heh.

Jill

On 5/27/2015 4:53 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:37 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
>>>>>> it would sell
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
>>>>>
>>>>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
>>>>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
>>>>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
>>>>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
>>>>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
>>>>> of their lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
>>>>> do-er-upper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
>>>> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
>>>> bonus.
>>>
>>> Even if she could find a buyer, selling buying and moving all cost
>>> money, so she'd lose equity and end up buying a cheaper place than she
>>> sold.
>>>
>>> I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
>>>> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
>>>> creaking wrinklies
>>>
>>> OTOH, the population of affluent creaking wrinklies make it a
>>> relatively peaceful safe and secure environment for a single woman
>>> (manned gatehouse? someone else cuts the grass?)
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> There are plenty of places like condos where the same would apply. Our
>> building has a great mix of young and old, there are even a couple of
>> babies around at the moment.
>
This time of year there are people here whose children expect them to
take care of the grandkids. Summer break!

The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
you could relax. LOL

> Dunno about Jill but I'd hate to live with other people through the
> wall/floor/ceiling.
>
I lived with that scenario a couple of times. I did always make sure I
got a 2nd floor apartment in a two storey building. No thundering herds
stamping around above me. I'll have the lighter tread. Not sounding
like cloggers tramping overhead.

I never did like tall buildings; two storey was the tallest I'd agree
to. My last apartment was like a duplex. One level, only one adjoining
wall between two nice apartments. I rarely heard my neighbors.

> In the middle of the night, if I want to play LOUD music while I vacuum
> the floor and dance in heavy boots, I can; and so can the neighbours..
> we'll never disturb each other.
>
> Janet UK
>
Yep, you're right about that.

Jill

On 5/27/2015 5:37 PM, wrote:
> You pick a concrete building - I have never heard anything in ten
> years now. Actually there is one thing I hear, that is when they run a
> bath or shower I hear water moving for some reason if I happen to be
> in my bathroom at the time. However if they bathed/showered in the
> middle of the night I wouldn't hear it in my bedroom.

Sorry, but that is not the type of dwelling I would want to live in.

Jill

On 5/25/2015 12:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/25/2015 10:50 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/25/2015 8:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My only point was when you rent and move out you get nothing back
>>>>> (except for maybe your deposit). If you ever sell your house, you will
>>>>> get a decent chunk of change to add to your bank account. Your parents
>>>>> left you a decent amount but you won't actually get it until you sell.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, when Jill dies she will be rich!
>>>>
>>>
>>> She could do a reverse mortgage and have spending money now, and
>>> leave less
>>> (or nothing) to her cats. Either way, she was handed something for
>>> nothing,
>>> but complains about it.
>>
>> I think she has a dozen or more years to qualify for that.
>
> Have to be 62 I think and I'm not sure you could do it if the house is
> paid off. But I don't know for sure.

Don't fall for that reverse mortgage thing. Read the fine print... it's
like buying an extended warranty for a car that is still under warranty.
Uh huh. Read the terms and exclusions. Then try to get them to honor
any of the terms of the warranty. They'll find a way out of it. All
sorts of things that disqualify for the $xxxx.xx it already cost you.

Jill

On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
> you could relax. LOL

We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On 5/28/2015 5:47 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 16:56:10 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/27/2015 2:01 PM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
>>>>> it would sell
>>>>
>>>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
>>>>
>>>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
>>>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
>>>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
>>>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
>>>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
>>>> of their lives.
>>>>
>>>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
>>>> do-er-upper.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
>>> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
>>> bonus. I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
>>> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
>>> creaking wrinklies
>>>
>> But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
>> before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
>> much rather kick back with a good book.
>>
>> Jill
>
> It isn't a question of going out all the time, just having good
> friends to do things with and preferably slightly younger than
> yourself. It's very bad for the health to vegitate. My daughters are
> your age pretty much and even I am out and about all the time. Yes, I
> still take time to read after a fun day. Just finishing A Spy Amongst
> Friends, about Kim Philby.
>
I appreciate the thought, but really I am not (and do not want to be) an
out and about person. Don't want to meet or date. I'm glad you and
your daughters enjoy time doing whatever they are doing. Please
understand I have always enjoyed quiet time and no... I don't mean just
since I've lived in this house.

Jill

On 5/26/2015 8:58 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2015 18:33:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> Dad called and told us what had happened. I felt so bad for him and my
>> Aunt Winifred. He was trying to sound upbeat but Mom told me what happened.
>>
>> Grandma didn't leave a Will. She depended on surviving children to sort
>> things out. She obviously didn't know some "distant cousins" would show
>> up upon hearing about her death.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Those relatives of yours showed up at my grandfather's house
> immediately he died.
> Janet US
>
LOL Seems to happen whenever there is a shack on a bit of land.

Jill

On 28/05/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
>> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
>> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
>> you could relax. LOL
>
> We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
> in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.
>
I help with mine but bought car seats. I got rid of them recently - just
before son #2 and dil announced they were having twins!
Graham

--

+10000

Nellie

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/25/2015 12:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/25/2015 10:50 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
>>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 5/25/2015 8:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My only point was when you rent and move out you get nothing back
>>>>>> (except for maybe your deposit). If you ever sell your house, you
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> get a decent chunk of change to add to your bank account. Your
>>>>>> parents
>>>>>> left you a decent amount but you won't actually get it until you
>>>>>> sell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, when Jill dies she will be rich!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She could do a reverse mortgage and have spending money now, and
>>>> leave less
>>>> (or nothing) to her cats. Either way, she was handed something for
>>>> nothing,
>>>> but complains about it.
>>>
>>> I think she has a dozen or more years to qualify for that.
>>
>> Have to be 62 I think and I'm not sure you could do it if the house is
>> paid off. But I don't know for sure.
>
> Don't fall for that reverse mortgage thing. Read the fine print... it's
> like buying an extended warranty for a car that is still under warranty.
> Uh huh. Read the terms and exclusions. Then try to get them to honor any
> of the terms of the warranty. They'll find a way out of it. All sorts of
> things that disqualify for the $xxxx.xx it already cost you.

Yeah. My friend just got one because she was desperate for money for much
needed home repairs. She got it last month and it is already biting her in
the butt now.

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 6:37:19 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >+10000
>
> To everything in general?
>
> --
> Bruce



Hahaha, noooo I thought I posted a follow up. Let me check quickly. I do need to leave the house shortly so may not be able to check.

I meant +1000000 to Lucretia's comment that life is for living.

Nellie

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 5:03:34 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:29:32 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 5/28/2015 5:47 PM, wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 May 2015 16:56:10 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 5/27/2015 2:01 PM, wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article >,
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
> >>>>>> it would sell
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
> >>>>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
> >>>>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
> >>>>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
> >>>>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
> >>>>> of their lives.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
> >>>>> do-er-upper.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Janet UK
> >>>>
> >>>> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
> >>>> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
> >>>> bonus. I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
> >>>> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
> >>>> creaking wrinklies
> >>>>
> >>> But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
> >>> before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
> >>> much rather kick back with a good book.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> It isn't a question of going out all the time, just having good
> >> friends to do things with and preferably slightly younger than
> >> yourself. It's very bad for the health to vegitate. My daughters are
> >> your age pretty much and even I am out and about all the time. Yes, I
> >> still take time to read after a fun day. Just finishing A Spy Amongst
> >> Friends, about Kim Philby.
> >>
> >I appreciate the thought, but really I am not (and do not want to be) an
> >out and about person. Don't want to meet or date. I'm glad you and
> >your daughters enjoy time doing whatever they are doing. Please
> >understand I have always enjoyed quiet time and no... I don't mean just
> >since I've lived in this house.
> >
> >Jill
>
> To be hackneyed - life is for living!!!

Don't know how that other post happened.

+10000

Absolutely it is for living

Nellie

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>+10000
>
> To everything in general?

I was wondering about that too


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
> > beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
> > this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
> > you could relax. LOL

Grandparent heaven. We love it.
>
> We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
> in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.

Good idea; saves changing their seats into your car.

We made a point of having everything they need( leftovers or
secondhand, cheap and clean, big trade between other island
grandparents). As they outgrew baby cots and trikes etc we traded in for
the next stage; and J made an extra slide-under bed for the
grandchildrens' room.

All their parents have to do is bring the grands, kick back and relax.
We and the grands have a happy time entertaining each other with
beach, football, pirates, cards, painting, boats, making, cooking etc
while their parents enjoy some rare time to themselves.

Janet UK

On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:17 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >+10000
>
> To everything in general?


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:17 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >+10000
>
> To everything in general?

My mother was like Jill. She'd rather be curled up with a book or a
crossword puzzle than out drinking tea with the ladies somewhere.
Forget shopping or cooking, that was to sustain life and not a
pleasure. She would have hated where Jill lived - too many houses too
close together for her. The last place she owned was 50 acres (mainly
wooded), abutting a commercial forest.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Thu, 28 May 2015 18:03:59 -0600, graham > wrote:

> On 28/05/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
> >> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
> >> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
> >> you could relax. LOL
> >
> > We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
> > in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.
> >
> I help with mine but bought car seats. I got rid of them recently - just
> before son #2 and dil announced they were having twins!
>

Congratulations?

The good news is that whatever you buy to replace them will be safer
and easier to put install and remove (for those times you're
transporting adults, not children).



--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:24:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:

> Good idea; saves changing their seats into your car.

It works for us. We were going to use the car seat our oldest GC had
used, but it had "expired". There's a sticker on every car seat with
a date that they will not be considered safe beyond and that one's
date was up. So, son bought us the first car seat. Now DD has and
we're transporting them back & forth. It got old taking a car seat
from one of her cars to put into ours, so she bought us a car seat to
keep.
>
> We made a point of having everything they need( leftovers or
> secondhand, cheap and clean, big trade between other island
> grandparents). As they outgrew baby cots and trikes etc we traded in for
> the next stage; and J made an extra slide-under bed for the
> grandchildrens' room.
>
> All their parents have to do is bring the grands, kick back and relax.
> We and the grands have a happy time entertaining each other with
> beach, football, pirates, cards, painting, boats, making, cooking etc
> while their parents enjoy some rare time to themselves.

That's the way we like it too. If the weather co-operates, we're off
to the zoo tomorrow.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On 29/05/2015 8:24 AM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 18:03:59 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 28/05/2015 5:25 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
>>>> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
>>>> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
>>>> you could relax. LOL
>>>
>>> We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
>>> in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.
>>>
>> I help with mine but bought car seats. I got rid of them recently - just
>> before son #2 and dil announced they were having twins!
>>
>
> Congratulations?
>

Thanks, but my part in it was over many years ago;-)

> The good news is that whatever you buy to replace them will be safer
> and easier to put install and remove (for those times you're
> transporting adults, not children).
>
I had to get rid of the seats as they have a limited legal lifespan.
If you get caught driving kids in one that has expired, the fine is
substantial.
They looked like new and still had some time left so I donated them
to a charity.
Graham
--

On Friday, May 29, 2015 at 3:37:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 18:45:05 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 5:03:34 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:29:32 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 5/28/2015 5:47 PM, wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 28 May 2015 16:56:10 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 5/27/2015 2:01 PM, wrote:
> >> >>>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> In article >,
> >> >>>>> says...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date,
> >> >>>>>> it would sell
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers.
> >> >>>>> They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting
> >> >>>>> their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home,
> >> >>>>> where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need
> >> >>>>> to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest
> >> >>>>> of their lives.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a
> >> >>>>> do-er-upper.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Janet UK
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more
> >> >>>> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a
> >> >>>> bonus. I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely
> >> >>>> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst
> >> >>>> creaking wrinklies
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
> >> >>> before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
> >> >>> much rather kick back with a good book.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jill
> >> >>
> >> >> It isn't a question of going out all the time, just having good
> >> >> friends to do things with and preferably slightly younger than
> >> >> yourself. It's very bad for the health to vegitate. My daughters are
> >> >> your age pretty much and even I am out and about all the time. Yes, I
> >> >> still take time to read after a fun day. Just finishing A Spy Amongst
> >> >> Friends, about Kim Philby.
> >> >>
> >> >I appreciate the thought, but really I am not (and do not want to be) an
> >> >out and about person. Don't want to meet or date. I'm glad you and
> >> >your daughters enjoy time doing whatever they are doing. Please
> >> >understand I have always enjoyed quiet time and no... I don't mean just
> >> >since I've lived in this house.
> >> >
> >> >Jill
> >>
> >> To be hackneyed - life is for living!!!
> >
> >Don't know how that other post happened.
> >
> >+10000
> >
> >Absolutely it is for living
> >
> >Nellie
>
> lol - hope you had fun when you went out


Asa matter of fact, we did, thanks. We went to the Tony Bennett, Lady Gaga concert. They were both terrific!

Nellie

On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:31:33 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 29 May 2015 07:19:27 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:17 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >+10000
>>>
>>> To everything in general?
>>
>>My mother was like Jill. She'd rather be curled up with a jug of wine.

Wouldn't that be a box of wine?

Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:31:33 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 May 2015 07:19:27 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:37:17 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >+10000
>>>>
>>>> To everything in general?
>>>
>>>My mother was like Jill. She'd rather be curled up with a jug of wine.
>
> Wouldn't that be a box of wine?

says Captain Crystal Palace

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
>
> > If I can manage to stay alive long enough, I'll inherit a house too.
> > Meanwhile, I prefer to have Mom and Dad still alive and the hell with
> > their house. I'm sure you would have preferred that too.
>
> Gary, are you planning to give up your job, social life and home, move
> to wherever they live so they can stay in their own home for the last
> few years, when one after the other they lose capacity and need 24 hour
> care? Are you going to do EVERYTHING for your parents, 24/7, when they
> become incontinent, can't feed themselves?

Janet UK, you were writing after the fact and beating a dead horse
here but since you asked... I will not ever move to where they live.
I've never lived there and I won't ever.

That said. I talk to my mom every single saturday morning. I've told
her for the last 10-15 years...if it ever comes down to you and dad
needing assistance, you are always welcome to move in here with me.
And I mean that. They have helped me out many times and I will give
them all the paybacks necessary.

You're just being a pain in the ass lately. You didn't even grasp the
issue between Jill and I last week. I never said she didn't deserve
what she got.

You do present yourself here as a pain in the ass and always up for a
fight. You can start up your own fight and leave settled things lie.

G. :-D

jmcquown wrote:
>
> >
> But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
> before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
> much rather kick back with a good book.

There ya go again talking just like me, Jill.

On 5/26/2015 4:36 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2015 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/25/2015 8:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> My only point was when you rent and move out you get nothing back
>>> (except for maybe your deposit). If you ever sell your house, you will
>>> get a decent chunk of change to add to your bank account. Your parents
>>> left you a decent amount but you won't actually get it until you sell.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, when Jill dies she will be rich!
>>
> Of course I will. Actually, I'm trying to figure out who to leave the
> house to if I die. I'm thinking The Tabby House, which is the cat
> extension of the Beaufort County Animal Shelter. I don't think
> they'd be charged membership dues. They could just choose to sell it
> for next to nothing. Or open a cat adoption annex of the shelter.
>
> Jill

Jill, I have sons and they have no interest in inheriting my jewelry,
cedar chests, antiques, etc., so I have no idea who I will leave that
to. Maybe one of my nieces would be interested, though.

Becca

wrote:
>
> >> In the middle of the night, if I want to play LOUD music while I vacuum
> >> the floor and dance in heavy boots, I can; and so can the neighbours..
> >> we'll never disturb each other.
> >>
> >> Janet UK

> Well I do many odd/wild things but I sure as hell don't vacuum at
> night. I can think of many better things to do.

I'm with you. Janet UK is a weirdo. I have NEVER had the urge to play
loud music while I vacuum my house in the middle of the night and
dance in heavy boots. That's a pretty lame reason to own your own
separate house. LMAO.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> wrote:
>>
>> >> In the middle of the night, if I want to play LOUD music while I
>> >> vacuum
>> >> the floor and dance in heavy boots, I can; and so can the neighbours..
>> >> we'll never disturb each other.
>> >>
>> >> Janet UK
>
>> Well I do many odd/wild things but I sure as hell don't vacuum at
>> night. I can think of many better things to do.
>
> I'm with you. Janet UK is a weirdo. I have NEVER had the urge to play
> loud music while I vacuum my house in the middle of the night and
> dance in heavy boots. That's a pretty lame reason to own your own
> separate house. LMAO.

Indeed. Can't bust a move in heavy boots. Ballet shoes would be better.
Maybe jazz shoes, depending on the music. I do like to do laundry late at
night. And I could do that in all but two places where I lived. Actually,
in the one place I probably could have gotten away with it. It was a
townhouse and my apartment was the one next to the laundry room.

On Fri, 29 May 2015 16:29:12 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
> wrote:
>
>
>>> >
>>> >Absolutely it is for living
>>> >
>>> >Nellie
>>>
>>> lol - hope you had fun when you went out
>>
>>
>>Asa matter of fact, we did, thanks. We went to the Tony Bennett, Lady Gaga concert. They were both terrific!
>>
>>Nellie
>
>Is he still alive ? Dumb question sorry, he clearly must be

My father served in the Navy with Anthony Dominick Benedetto, they
became very good friends, had a weekly pinochle night. My father
played the mandolin, piano, accordian, violin, any instrument and Tony
would sing. I think my father was a much better musician than Tony
was a singer.

On 5/27/2015 10:07 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it
>>>
>>> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to have
>>> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to
>>> her brothers.
>>
>> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to pay
>> for the house itself.
>
> No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and
> earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in
> their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR
> the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7
> care for the elderly.
>
> Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have
> more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of
> "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't
> choose.
>
> Janet UK
>
Thank you, Janet. That's a very nice summary. You're absolutely right.
I did not think of it as a hardship. I didn't balk when Mom finally
called and said, "I need your help." I caught the first plane out that
weekend.

I really don't understand why people want to chastise me for inheriting
a house. My mother specifically left it to me so I would live in a
nice, safe quiet place. That, I have. It's pretty, too.

Sorry, Lucretia, but I'm not interested in selling my house so I can
live in a so-called younger, more lively area.

Jill

On 5/27/2015 4:59 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>>> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to
>>>> pay
>>>> for the house itself.
>>>
>>> No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and
>>> earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in
>>> their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR
>>> the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7
>>> care for the elderly.
>>>
>>> Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have
>>> more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of
>>> "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't
>>> choose.
>>
>> I made that sacrifice for my country
>
> Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin.
>
>
> when I married my husband who was in
>> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with
>> *him*!
>
You mean Julie's career with KMart? The retirement account she hasn't
cashed in on yet?

> You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents
> disabilities.
>
Just to clarify, my parents weren't classified as disabled. They were
elderly, Dad was 83 and Mom was 82.

When I got here Mom turned over the driving to/from doctors appointments
to me. I was paying the monthly bills and reconciling statements.
Disputing duplicate charges from a particular lawn service.

I was also doing the shopping and cooking, laundry, other household chores.

And talking to my mother and trying to reingage her with life again.

> Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop
> wherever you moved to?
>
> Janet UK
>

On 5/28/2015 7:25 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
>> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
>> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
>> you could relax. LOL
>
> We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
> in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.
>
That's where I read these requests on the Dataw Net and I think to
myself, why don't the parents already have the car seat, a crib, etc.?
Seems to me, as you said, sf, your children buy you what you need when
you're going to be taking care of them.

Jill

On 5/29/2015 5:35 PM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>> But I don't care about getting into a more young, lively area. Even
>> before I moved here I wasn't interested in going out all the time. I'd
>> much rather kick back with a good book.
>
> There ya go again talking just like me, Jill.
>
I have no idea why I'm supposed to be interested in whatever they think
is "lively".

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/28/2015 7:25 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 May 2015 19:04:34 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The grandparents are always trying to borrow car seats, cribs, twin
>>> beds, air mattresses. The parents expect the grandparents to have all
>>> this stuff. The legacy of taking care of the grandkids when you thought
>>> you could relax. LOL
>>
>> We help with our grandkids too, but our children buy us what we need.
>> in fact, DD bought a brand new car seat for us just last week.
>>
> That's where I read these requests on the Dataw Net and I think to myself,
> why don't the parents already have the car seat, a crib, etc.? Seems to
> me, as you said, sf, your children buy you what you need when you're going
> to be taking care of them.

This wasn't much of an issue for us as when Angela was young enough to need
such things, we didn't live near any relatives. However, at some point, my
MIL had set up an old crib that she had for one of my nieces or nephews.
Can't remember for sure which kid but nobody would use it as the slats in it
were not spaced correctly for safety.

On 5/28/2015 9:43 PM, Nellie wrote:
> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 6:37:19 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:59:41 -0700 (PDT), Nellie
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +10000
>>
>> To everything in general?
>>
>> --
>> Bruce
>
>
>
> Hahaha, noooo I thought I posted a follow up. Let me check quickly. I do need to leave the house shortly so may not be able to check.
>
> I meant +1000000 to Lucretia's comment that life is for living.
>
> Nellie
>
Yeah, well, life is not necessarily for living Lucretia's idea of living.

Jill

On 5/29/2015 5:37 PM, Becca EmaNymton wrote:
> On 5/26/2015 4:36 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/25/2015 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/25/2015 8:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> My only point was when you rent and move out you get nothing back
>>>> (except for maybe your deposit). If you ever sell your house, you will
>>>> get a decent chunk of change to add to your bank account. Your parents
>>>> left you a decent amount but you won't actually get it until you sell.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, when Jill dies she will be rich!
>>>
>> Of course I will. Actually, I'm trying to figure out who to leave the
>> house to if I die. I'm thinking The Tabby House, which is the cat
>> extension of the Beaufort County Animal Shelter. I don't think
>> they'd be charged membership dues. They could just choose to sell it
>> for next to nothing. Or open a cat adoption annex of the shelter.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Jill, I have sons and they have no interest in inheriting my jewelry,
> cedar chests, antiques, etc., so I have no idea who I will leave that
> to. Maybe one of my nieces would be interested, though.
>
> Becca

I'd still suggest you spell some things out. In writing. With
witnesses. It's merely a good idea.

Jill

On 5/26/2015 6:36 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
> 1. I wasn't referring to you, egoist.
> 2. Your tale of disability woe is irrelevant.
> 3. Your "shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc." is no different from Jill. She
> does all that too. With her money. That you do it doesn't count for more
> or make you more worthy of your house than Jill of hers.
>
> Come to think of it, you shuffled your dad off to a nursing home in his
> final days instead of taking care of him (I don't give a shit what your
> excuse for that is), while Jill moved to entirely different state to take
> care of her parents, in their home, until the end. Both of them. She
> earned her house just as much as you think you earn yours.
> -- jinx the minx

jinx, thank you for explaining it so precisely.

Jill