On 5/22/2015 12:38 PM, wrote:
> too good to just throw out.

Unlike yourself.

On 21/05/2015 6:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's because
>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>
> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
> So we have something to give people who
> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>
In effect, it's nothing!:-)
Graham

--

On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
> >>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
> >>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's because
> >>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
> >>
> >> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
> >> So we have something to give people who
> >> demand something. Hey, it's something!
> >>
> > Placebos.
> >
> > Jill
>
> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>
> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.

Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
=========

On 5/22/2015 5:28 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>>>>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>>>>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's because
>>>>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>>>>
>>>> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>>>> So we have something to give people who
>>>> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>>>>
>>> Placebos.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>>
>> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
>
> Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
> gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
> =========
>
My knee jerk reaction was to the idea that doctors should give people
something, *anything*, just because they ask for it. Hence my placebo
comment. I'm sure there are some doctors who wouldn't have any problem
prescribing expensive antibiotics for viral infections, too, even though
they aren't at all effective in treating viruses.

Jill

Webtv worked 1000x better on 33 k dialup than google tv does at 50 meg speeed.

On 5/22/2015 2:17 PM, graham wrote:
> On 21/05/2015 6:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's because
>>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>>
>> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>> So we have something to give people who
>> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>>
> In effect, it's nothing!:-)
> Graham
>
Nope.

Homeopathy is proven.

On 5/22/2015 3:28 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>>>>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>>>>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's because
>>>>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>>>>
>>>> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>>>> So we have something to give people who
>>>> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>>>>
>>> Placebos.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>>
>> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
>
> Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
> gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
> =========
>

That's absurd.

It does work.

Not for every condition, but it is somewhat analogous to regular allergy
desensitizing treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-u..._b_320998.html

Although homeopaths have a history of being at the forefront of medical
research and discovery, it is particularly appropriate and even
predictable that they would lead the way in the field of allergy.
Because the primary principle of modern allergy treatment derives from
the homeopathic principle of "treating like with like," the spirit of
homeopathy has lived on, despite the tendency of orthodox physicians to
ignore it.

Research in Leading Medical Journals

Respiratory allergies represent the condition for which there is a
relatively strong research base for efficacious treatment with
homeopathic medicines. A group of researchers at the University of
Glasgow published four studies, three of which were published in the BMJ
(British Medical Journal) and the Lancet, two highly respected medical
journals. Each study was randomized, double-blind, and
placebo-controlled. Each trial used an oral 30C homeopathic preparation.
The first two trials involved patients with hay fever, [4] [5] where
patients were either give a placebo or homeopathic doses of 12 common
flowers to which people are allergic.

The third trial involved patients with asthma, where patients underwent
conventional allergy testing to determine to what substance they were
most allergic. [6] Half of the patients were given a placebo and half
were given a homeopathic dose of the substance to which they were most
allergic (the most common allergen was "house dust mite" and thus, these
patients were given House Dust Mite 30C).

The fourth study was the treatment of patients suffering with perennial
allergic rhinitis (a broad technical term for respiratory allergies that
are not seasonal). [7] Like the previous study, half of the patients
were given a placebo, while the other half was given a homeopathic dose
of whatever substance the person was most allergic. The patients given
the homeopathic medicine experienced significant improvement in nasal
inspiratory flow comparable with the improvement typically experienced
by patients given steroidal drugs...without side effects!

When evaluating all four trials together (there were 253 patients in all
of their clinical trials), there was a 28 percentimprovement in
homeopathic subjects versus a 3 percent improvement in placebo subjects.

Following in the footsteps of the above research, a 4-week, double-blind
clinical trial comparing homeopathic preparations with placebo was
conducted in the Phoenix metropolitan area during the regional allergy
season from February to May. [8] The treatment group was given a
homeopathic preparation (6X) of common allergens in the Southwest region
of the U.S. Participants included 40 men and women, 26-63 years of age,
diagnosed with moderate to severe seasonal allergic rhinitis symptoms.

In addition to the above research, a group of German researchers
conducted annual controlled clinical trials using a single homeopathic
medicine (Galphima glauca) on over 1,000 hay fever subjects. The last
six clinical trials were randomized, double-blind, and
placebo-controlled. These studies consistently showed benefits from this
homeopathic treatment as compared with those patients given a placebo. [9]

It should be acknowledged that not all research has confirmed success in
the treatment of respiratory allergies using homeopathic medicines. For
instance, one study tested homeopathic doses of birch trees to treat
people with birch tree allergies, but such treatment was not any more
effective than a placebo. [10]

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/21/2015 11:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 20 May 2015 14:27:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 5/20/2015 6:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:30:36 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>> And there are either shortages now or I don't know what. We were
>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>> low on a couple of shelf stable foods that I didn't need right
>>>>>>>> away so
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> decided to place an order from Walmart. I decided to add that
>>>>>>>> chicken broth
>>>>>>>> that I love to my order. First I noticed that both the regular and
>>>>>>>> the low
>>>>>>>> sodium were out of stock and the price was up 2 cents! Then
>>>>>>>> everything else
>>>>>>>> that I checked was also out of stock. Weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose it could be that they put thing as being out of stock
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> sort out the prices. I really don't know. I just saw too much
>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>> wanted not being there. So I went with Amazon instead. Should be
>>>>>>>> here in
>>>>>>>> about 24 hours. Works for me! And most of the prices at Amazon
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> good. Especially on produce.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This might be a good time to stock up. Prices do appear to be
>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am pretty much as well stocked as I can be. I do wish that I could
>>>>>> have gotten more broth as I am drinking it almost daily, I love it so
>>>>>> much! Can't always get it in the store either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lord knows it would kill you to make some actual chicken broth.
>>>>> From, you
>>>>> know, chicken.
>>>>
>>>> I am just not interested in doing that and to do so would be very
>>>> expensive.
>>>> This works for me.
>>>
>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>
>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>> buy food...
>>>
>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth?
>
> No, you don't need a whole chicken to make broth (or concentrated stock).
> I buy chicken legs (that would be the thigh and drumstick) for about
> $1.19/lb. So a 2 lb. package, $2.38 or so. (No, I never see Sheldon's
> $.89/lb for whole chickens around here.)
>
>> I can get two
>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth. How much broth
>> would I get from a chicken?
>
> Pretty much as much water as you add to the pot. Enough water to cover
> the chicken pieces well. So, about three quarts.
>
> And guess what? You can use that cooked chicken for other things. You
> buy canned chicken in broth. You'll wind up with the same thing, cooked
> chicken and broth. Chop the chicken, use it for chicken salad or for
> chicken pot pie or creamed chicken or however you use that canned stuff.
>
>> I assume I would have to add other things
>> to the broth as well. Herbs, vegetables... I would think that would
>> cost more than $4.00.
>>
> Vegetables must be very expensive where you live! A simple chicken broth
> benefits from a carrot or two, a couple of stalks of celery. An onion,
> quartered. Let's see... I bought a bag of carrots for 89 cents and a
> whole head of celery for 99 cents, paid 80 cents for a large yellow onion.
> That's $2.68.
>
> You don't have to add herbs. Just salt & pepper. I suspect the broth you
> like (sorry, I don't know what brand it is) does have herbs added. I keep
> an ample supply of dried herbs on hand because I actually *do* enjoy
> cooking and don't have a kitchen garden laden with fresh herbs.
>
>> It sure wouldn't be easier or quicker and I highly doubt that it would
>> be cheaper. Plus I have read descriptions on here of how home made
>> broth comes out. That does not sound in any way appealing to me. If I
>> am fine with what I am consuming, then why is it a problem for you?
>
> Personally, I don't have a problem with how you choose to spend your
> money. If you want quick, enjoy paying for those boxes of broth. We're
> merely pointing out, for someone who claims to love to cook, you sure do
> like things that come in cans or boxes. Broth is simple and really only
> takes an hour and a half to make.

I looked up how to make it. I would need a whole chicken and vegetables. I
would need to pull the bones out of the chicken and the skin off. Two
things I won't do. Also says to save that chicken for another use. Nobody
here would eat it, so waste of a chicken. Does not sound simple or easy.
Just kind of disgusting and expensive. So... I will stick with the boxed
broth that I like. I have also read descriptions of the broth that comes
about when made at home. Does not sound appealing to me at all.

"Janet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>> >
>> > How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>> > online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>> > coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>> > buy food...
>> >
>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>
> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call that
> expensive water.
>
> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>
> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens and
> when I have several, make stock.
>
> Janet UK

I have no room in the freezer for carcasses and we don't eat chicken like
that so we wouldn't have any.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> >> jmcquown wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>> >>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>> >>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's
>> >>> because
>> >>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>> >>
>> >> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>> >> So we have something to give people who
>> >> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>> >>
>> > Placebos.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>>
>> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
>
> Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
> gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
> =========

Wrong!

On 5/22/2015 6:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/21/2015 11:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 20 May 2015 14:27:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/20/2015 6:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:30:36 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>> And there are either shortages now or I don't know what. We were
>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>> low on a couple of shelf stable foods that I didn't need right
>>>>>>>>> away so
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> decided to place an order from Walmart. I decided to add that
>>>>>>>>> chicken broth
>>>>>>>>> that I love to my order. First I noticed that both the regular
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the low
>>>>>>>>> sodium were out of stock and the price was up 2 cents! Then
>>>>>>>>> everything else
>>>>>>>>> that I checked was also out of stock. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suppose it could be that they put thing as being out of stock
>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> sort out the prices. I really don't know. I just saw too much
>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> wanted not being there. So I went with Amazon instead. Should be
>>>>>>>>> here in
>>>>>>>>> about 24 hours. Works for me! And most of the prices at
>>>>>>>>> Amazon are
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> good. Especially on produce.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This might be a good time to stock up. Prices do appear to be
>>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am pretty much as well stocked as I can be. I do wish that I
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> have gotten more broth as I am drinking it almost daily, I love
>>>>>>> it so
>>>>>>> much! Can't always get it in the store either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lord knows it would kill you to make some actual chicken broth.
>>>>>> From, you
>>>>>> know, chicken.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am just not interested in doing that and to do so would be very
>>>>> expensive.
>>>>> This works for me.
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>
>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>> buy food...
>>>>
>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth?
>>
>> No, you don't need a whole chicken to make broth (or concentrated
>> stock). I buy chicken legs (that would be the thigh and drumstick) for
>> about $1.19/lb. So a 2 lb. package, $2.38 or so. (No, I never see
>> Sheldon's $.89/lb for whole chickens around here.)
>>
>>> I can get two
>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth. How much broth
>>> would I get from a chicken?
>>
>> Pretty much as much water as you add to the pot. Enough water to
>> cover the chicken pieces well. So, about three quarts.
>>
>> And guess what? You can use that cooked chicken for other things.
>> You buy canned chicken in broth. You'll wind up with the same thing,
>> cooked chicken and broth. Chop the chicken, use it for chicken salad
>> or for chicken pot pie or creamed chicken or however you use that
>> canned stuff.
>>
>>> I assume I would have to add other things
>>> to the broth as well. Herbs, vegetables... I would think that would
>>> cost more than $4.00.
>>>
>> Vegetables must be very expensive where you live! A simple chicken
>> broth benefits from a carrot or two, a couple of stalks of celery. An
>> onion, quartered. Let's see... I bought a bag of carrots for 89 cents
>> and a whole head of celery for 99 cents, paid 80 cents for a large
>> yellow onion. That's $2.68.
>>
>> You don't have to add herbs. Just salt & pepper. I suspect the broth
>> you like (sorry, I don't know what brand it is) does have herbs added.
>> I keep an ample supply of dried herbs on hand because I actually *do*
>> enjoy cooking and don't have a kitchen garden laden with fresh herbs.
>>
>>> It sure wouldn't be easier or quicker and I highly doubt that it would
>>> be cheaper. Plus I have read descriptions on here of how home made
>>> broth comes out. That does not sound in any way appealing to me. If I
>>> am fine with what I am consuming, then why is it a problem for you?
>>
>> Personally, I don't have a problem with how you choose to spend your
>> money. If you want quick, enjoy paying for those boxes of broth.
>> We're merely pointing out, for someone who claims to love to cook, you
>> sure do like things that come in cans or boxes. Broth is simple and
>> really only takes an hour and a half to make.
>
> I looked up how to make it. I would need a whole chicken and
> vegetables.

No, you would need chicken pieces and vegetables.

> I would need to pull the bones out of the chicken and the
> skin off. Two things I won't do.

Yeah, we know you're freaked out by real food.

> Also says to save that chicken for
> another use. Nobody here would eat it, so waste of a chicken.

Yet you buy canned chicken in broth, which is essentially what you'd get
if you cooked your own.

Jill

On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>
>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>> buy food...
>>>
>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>
> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call that
> expensive water.
>
> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>
> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens and
> when I have several, make stock.
>
> Janet UK
>>
>
>
She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.

Jill

On 5/22/2015 5:51 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/22/2015 6:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/21/2015 11:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 20 May 2015 14:27:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 5/20/2015 6:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:30:36 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> And there are either shortages now or I don't know what. We were
>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> low on a couple of shelf stable foods that I didn't need right
>>>>>>>>>> away so
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> decided to place an order from Walmart. I decided to add that
>>>>>>>>>> chicken broth
>>>>>>>>>> that I love to my order. First I noticed that both the regular
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the low
>>>>>>>>>> sodium were out of stock and the price was up 2 cents! Then
>>>>>>>>>> everything else
>>>>>>>>>> that I checked was also out of stock. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suppose it could be that they put thing as being out of stock
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> sort out the prices. I really don't know. I just saw too much
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> wanted not being there. So I went with Amazon instead.
>>>>>>>>>> Should be
>>>>>>>>>> here in
>>>>>>>>>> about 24 hours. Works for me! And most of the prices at
>>>>>>>>>> Amazon are
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> good. Especially on produce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This might be a good time to stock up. Prices do appear to be
>>>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am pretty much as well stocked as I can be. I do wish that I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> have gotten more broth as I am drinking it almost daily, I love
>>>>>>>> it so
>>>>>>>> much! Can't always get it in the store either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lord knows it would kill you to make some actual chicken broth.
>>>>>>> From, you
>>>>>>> know, chicken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am just not interested in doing that and to do so would be very
>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>> This works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>
>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>
>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth?
>>>
>>> No, you don't need a whole chicken to make broth (or concentrated
>>> stock). I buy chicken legs (that would be the thigh and drumstick) for
>>> about $1.19/lb. So a 2 lb. package, $2.38 or so. (No, I never see
>>> Sheldon's $.89/lb for whole chickens around here.)
>>>
>>>> I can get two
>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth. How much broth
>>>> would I get from a chicken?
>>>
>>> Pretty much as much water as you add to the pot. Enough water to
>>> cover the chicken pieces well. So, about three quarts.
>>>
>>> And guess what? You can use that cooked chicken for other things.
>>> You buy canned chicken in broth. You'll wind up with the same thing,
>>> cooked chicken and broth. Chop the chicken, use it for chicken salad
>>> or for chicken pot pie or creamed chicken or however you use that
>>> canned stuff.
>>>
>>>> I assume I would have to add other things
>>>> to the broth as well. Herbs, vegetables... I would think that would
>>>> cost more than $4.00.
>>>>
>>> Vegetables must be very expensive where you live! A simple chicken
>>> broth benefits from a carrot or two, a couple of stalks of celery. An
>>> onion, quartered. Let's see... I bought a bag of carrots for 89 cents
>>> and a whole head of celery for 99 cents, paid 80 cents for a large
>>> yellow onion. That's $2.68.
>>>
>>> You don't have to add herbs. Just salt & pepper. I suspect the broth
>>> you like (sorry, I don't know what brand it is) does have herbs added.
>>> I keep an ample supply of dried herbs on hand because I actually *do*
>>> enjoy cooking and don't have a kitchen garden laden with fresh herbs.
>>>
>>>> It sure wouldn't be easier or quicker and I highly doubt that it would
>>>> be cheaper. Plus I have read descriptions on here of how home made
>>>> broth comes out. That does not sound in any way appealing to me. If I
>>>> am fine with what I am consuming, then why is it a problem for you?
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't have a problem with how you choose to spend your
>>> money. If you want quick, enjoy paying for those boxes of broth.
>>> We're merely pointing out, for someone who claims to love to cook, you
>>> sure do like things that come in cans or boxes. Broth is simple and
>>> really only takes an hour and a half to make.
>>
>> I looked up how to make it. I would need a whole chicken and
>> vegetables.
>
> No, you would need chicken pieces and vegetables.
>
>> I would need to pull the bones out of the chicken and the
>> skin off. Two things I won't do.
>
> Yeah, we know you're freaked out by real food.
>
>> Also says to save that chicken for
>> another use. Nobody here would eat it, so waste of a chicken.
>
> Yet you buy canned chicken in broth, which is essentially what you'd get
> if you cooked your own.
>
> Jill


For ****'s sake shrew, let it alone!

On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>
>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>> buy food...
>>>>
>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>
>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call that
>> expensive water.
>>
>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>
>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens and
>> when I have several, make stock.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>>
> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>
> Jill


The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
your little community.

On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> >> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> > On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
> >> >>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
> >> >>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's
> >> >>> because
> >> >>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
> >> >> So we have something to give people who
> >> >> demand something. Hey, it's something!
> >> >>
> >> > Placebos.
> >> >
> >> > Jill
> >>
> >> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
> >>
> >> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
> >
> > Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
> > gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
> > =========
>
> Wrong!

Right! I've had Asthma my whole life. I know a lot about it.

On 5/22/2015 6:22 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>>>>>>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>>>>>>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>>>>>> So we have something to give people who
>>>>>> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Placebos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>>>>
>>>> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
>>>
>>> Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
>>> gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
>>> =========
>>
>> Wrong!
>
> Right! I've had Asthma my whole life. I know a lot about it.
>

Not enough that you did the research I posted.

On 5/22/2015 6:25 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 22 May 2015 17:22:22 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-6, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>>>> On 5/22/2015 6:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/21/2015 8:45 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> True! When I worked for Prudential's HMO it never ceased to amaze me
>>>>>>>> the complaints we got from people with the flu. Why? Because the
>>>>>>>> network physicians wouldn't prescribe antibiotics! Duh, that's
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> antibiotics don't work on viral infections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's why we need homeopathic mediocines.
>>>>>>> So we have something to give people who
>>>>>>> demand something. Hey, it's something!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Placebos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> No, homeopathy is NOT a placebo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do learn up on the subject before knee jerking.
>>>>
>>>> Homeopathy for the most part is horseshit...packaged and sold to the
>>>> gullible. Its on par with Scientology IMHO and just as dangerous.
>>>> =========
>>>
>>> Wrong!
>>
>> Right! I've had Asthma my whole life. I know a lot about it.
>
> There's nothing wrong with homeopathy as long as you don't try to fix
> a broken leg with it.
>
+1

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2015 6:40 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/21/2015 11:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Wed, 20 May 2015 14:27:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 5/20/2015 6:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:30:36 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> And there are either shortages now or I don't know what. We were
>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> low on a couple of shelf stable foods that I didn't need right
>>>>>>>>>> away so
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> decided to place an order from Walmart. I decided to add that
>>>>>>>>>> chicken broth
>>>>>>>>>> that I love to my order. First I noticed that both the regular
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> the low
>>>>>>>>>> sodium were out of stock and the price was up 2 cents! Then
>>>>>>>>>> everything else
>>>>>>>>>> that I checked was also out of stock. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suppose it could be that they put thing as being out of stock
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> sort out the prices. I really don't know. I just saw too much
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> wanted not being there. So I went with Amazon instead. Should
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> here in
>>>>>>>>>> about 24 hours. Works for me! And most of the prices at
>>>>>>>>>> Amazon are
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> good. Especially on produce.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This might be a good time to stock up. Prices do appear to be
>>>>>>>>> jumping
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am pretty much as well stocked as I can be. I do wish that I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> have gotten more broth as I am drinking it almost daily, I love
>>>>>>>> it so
>>>>>>>> much! Can't always get it in the store either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lord knows it would kill you to make some actual chicken broth.
>>>>>>> From, you
>>>>>>> know, chicken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am just not interested in doing that and to do so would be very
>>>>>> expensive.
>>>>>> This works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>
>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>
>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth?
>>>
>>> No, you don't need a whole chicken to make broth (or concentrated
>>> stock). I buy chicken legs (that would be the thigh and drumstick) for
>>> about $1.19/lb. So a 2 lb. package, $2.38 or so. (No, I never see
>>> Sheldon's $.89/lb for whole chickens around here.)
>>>
>>>> I can get two
>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth. How much broth
>>>> would I get from a chicken?
>>>
>>> Pretty much as much water as you add to the pot. Enough water to
>>> cover the chicken pieces well. So, about three quarts.
>>>
>>> And guess what? You can use that cooked chicken for other things.
>>> You buy canned chicken in broth. You'll wind up with the same thing,
>>> cooked chicken and broth. Chop the chicken, use it for chicken salad
>>> or for chicken pot pie or creamed chicken or however you use that
>>> canned stuff.
>>>
>>>> I assume I would have to add other things
>>>> to the broth as well. Herbs, vegetables... I would think that would
>>>> cost more than $4.00.
>>>>
>>> Vegetables must be very expensive where you live! A simple chicken
>>> broth benefits from a carrot or two, a couple of stalks of celery. An
>>> onion, quartered. Let's see... I bought a bag of carrots for 89 cents
>>> and a whole head of celery for 99 cents, paid 80 cents for a large
>>> yellow onion. That's $2.68.
>>>
>>> You don't have to add herbs. Just salt & pepper. I suspect the broth
>>> you like (sorry, I don't know what brand it is) does have herbs added.
>>> I keep an ample supply of dried herbs on hand because I actually *do*
>>> enjoy cooking and don't have a kitchen garden laden with fresh herbs.
>>>
>>>> It sure wouldn't be easier or quicker and I highly doubt that it would
>>>> be cheaper. Plus I have read descriptions on here of how home made
>>>> broth comes out. That does not sound in any way appealing to me. If I
>>>> am fine with what I am consuming, then why is it a problem for you?
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't have a problem with how you choose to spend your
>>> money. If you want quick, enjoy paying for those boxes of broth.
>>> We're merely pointing out, for someone who claims to love to cook, you
>>> sure do like things that come in cans or boxes. Broth is simple and
>>> really only takes an hour and a half to make.
>>
>> I looked up how to make it. I would need a whole chicken and
>> vegetables.
>
> No, you would need chicken pieces and vegetables.

Okay. But those things would cost more than the broth. No?
>
>> I would need to pull the bones out of the chicken and the
>> skin off. Two things I won't do.
>
> Yeah, we know you're freaked out by real food.

No.
>
>> Also says to save that chicken for
>> another use. Nobody here would eat it, so waste of a chicken.
>
> Yet you buy canned chicken in broth, which is essentially what you'd get
> if you cooked your own.

Not at all. The canned chicken is very much a different texture. It's more
like tuna. Due to my gastroparesis, I have difficulty digesting most meats.
Canned chicken is one that I can do provided I don't try to eat too much at
one time. As I have said before, there is a reason I eat this stuff. I
don't expect anyone else to but when I make chicken salad with apples and
pecans with it, someone who is not me is wolfing it down.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>
>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>> buy food...
>>>>
>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>
>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call that
>> expensive water.
>>
>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>
>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens and
>> when I have several, make stock.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>>
>>
>>
> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.

Why are you lying? I didn't buy her a car. She paid for it herself! I had
a freezer and it died. It died because it was not supposed to have been
used here I put it. The garage. I have since found some others that would
work out there but I no longer have the space out there. Our garage is
tiny. Not big enough for a car. And I don't need the freezer now. I
bought it because someone was eating an insane amount of ice cream and other
frozen treats. I got sick of going to the store daily or more often to buy
them. They are no longer eating these things in those proportions.

"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>
>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>
>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy whole
>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>
>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call that
>>> expensive water.
>>>
>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>
>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens
>>> and
>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in your
> little community.

It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start calling
her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>> through to
>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>> whole
>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>
>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>> that
>>>> expensive water.
>>>>
>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>> bits
>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>
>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>> chickens and
>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
>> your little community.
>
> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>

She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or
companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack people on
Usenet and you are her easiest target.

"Username" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>>> that
>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>>> bits
>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>
>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast chickens
>>>>> and
>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
>>> your little community.
>>
>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>
>
> She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or companionship.
> She's got nothing better to do than attack people on Usenet and you are
> her easiest target.

Ack! Please don't say old. I think I am a year older. She just acts
older. Not more mature. Just more decrepit.

On 5/22/2015 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>> whole
>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>
>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>> that
>>>> expensive water.
>>>>
>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>
>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>> chickens and
>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>
>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
>> your little community.
>
> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.


Your restraint is admirable and inspiring.

You don't have to prove who's the better person, that poll has already
closed.

On 5/22/2015 8:24 PM, Username wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>>> through to
>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>>> that
>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>>> bits
>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>
>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>> chickens and
>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
>>> your little community.
>>
>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>
>
> She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or
> companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack people on
> Usenet and you are her easiest target.


This is a succinct analysis.

The lack of friends can't possibly be related to her constant harping on
the Dataw menus...and perhaps other things there?

Hmmm...

On 5/22/2015 8:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Username" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>>>> through to
>>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd
>>>>>> call that
>>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>>>> bits
>>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>>> chickens and
>>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food
>>>>> they
>>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah
>>>> in your little community.
>>>
>>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
>>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>>
>>
>> She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or
>> companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack people on
>> Usenet and you are her easiest target.
>
> Ack! Please don't say old. I think I am a year older. She just acts
> older. Not more mature. Just more decrepit.


Oh yeah.

The chronology of age rarely correlates well with those who've refused
to outgrow their bad habits.

On 5/20/2015 4:29 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
(snip)
>
> I took advice here and made my own vegetable broth. Hated it.

Who can guess why bove hated her vegetable broth when she took the
recipe/advice she read here in RFC?!?!? She didn't follow the recipe
and made her own changes/switches contrary to the recipe!

This is bove's long-standing standard MO, then she comes howling back to
RFC to complain the recipe (any, for that matter) did not work for her
--- heh, bove never seems to follow any recipe as written and then
wonders why the outcome didn't have the desired results! Well, DUH, and
DOH <------- as "Homer Simpson" is wont to say!

OB Food: Molten lava cakes soon to be in the works, per
http://www.theyummylife.com/Brownie_Lava_Cakes

Sky

On 5/20/2015 4:27 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/20/2015 6:50 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 3:30:36 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> And there are either shortages now or I don't know what. We were
>>>>> running
>>>>> low on a couple of shelf stable foods that I didn't need right away
>>>>> so I
>>>>> decided to place an order from Walmart. I decided to add that
>>>>> chicken broth
>>>>> that I love to my order. First I noticed that both the regular and
>>>>> the low
>>>>> sodium were out of stock and the price was up 2 cents! Then
>>>>> everything else
>>>>> that I checked was also out of stock. Weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose it could be that they put thing as being out of stock while
>>>>> they
>>>>> sort out the prices. I really don't know. I just saw too much that I
>>>>> wanted not being there. So I went with Amazon instead. Should be
>>>>> here in
>>>>> about 24 hours. Works for me! And most of the prices at Amazon are
>>>>> still
>>>>> good. Especially on produce.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This might be a good time to stock up. Prices do appear to be jumping
>>>> again.
>>>
>>> I am pretty much as well stocked as I can be. I do wish that I could
>>> have gotten more broth as I am drinking it almost daily, I love it so
>>> much! Can't always get it in the store either.
>>
>> Lord knows it would kill you to make some actual chicken broth. From,
>> you know, chicken.
>
> I am just not interested in doing that and to do so would be very
> expensive. This works for me.

Big time BS meter going Ding-a-ling-a-ding-dang-dong!!!! Bove has
stated all too often she won't buy and never handles raw chicken, no
matter what --- not even with 'gloves' !!!

What's more expensive is to buy chicken broth in a can or box! But of
course, that simple math (economics) seems to be beyond bove's low-level
comprehension meter.

OB Food: Dutch baby is intended for breakfast later this or tomorrow
morning

Sky

On 5/22/2015 9:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
(snip)
>
> Ack! Please don't say old. I think I am a year older. She just acts
> older. Not more mature. Just more decrepit.

Bove, it's poor taste for you to say someone is more 'decrepit' than
you! After all, you "suffer" from so many health issues! Of course it
does not matter to you that many folks here in RFC believe your
multitude of symptoms are psychosomatic.

An interesting point, bove --- why do you constantly post here in RFC
yet rarely post anything in the relevant and important health newsgroups
when the topic regards diabetes ?? Supposedly you have diabetes, and so
many other health issues. Could this be because the folks on those
particular (diabetes) newsgroups know your "game" ??!!! This I do not
doubt.

OB Food: Cut corn off cob, place in pot with some cream & seasonings,
heat through only, then serve Eating freshly picked and shucked raw,
sweet corn is akin to heaven!

Sky

On 5/22/2015 9:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
(snip)
>>>
>>>
>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food
>> they they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and
>> eat.
>
> Why are you lying? I didn't buy her a car. She paid for it herself! I
> had a freezer and it died. It died because it was not supposed to have
> been used here I put it. The garage. I have since found some others
> that would work out there but I no longer have the space out there. Our
> garage is tiny. Not big enough for a car. And I don't need the freezer
> now. I bought it because someone was eating an insane amount of ice
> cream and other frozen treats. I got sick of going to the store daily
> or more often to buy them. They are no longer eating these things in
> those proportions.

This is another example when bove puts fingers to keyboard and inserts
hoof, er, foot!

Sky

On 5/21/2015 7:09 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> For sure, egg prices will go up, and I think our news reports here in Iowa said
> the industry won't recover for about 18 months. I was only about half listening,
> but I think that's what they said.
>

Sad thing is, when prices go up, they rarely come back down, most of the
time :/ Depends on too many variables, however, and I am not an
economist, that's for sure

Sky

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I have no room in the freezer for carcasses and we don't eat chicken like
> that so we wouldn't have any.

Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
obviously full of something.

I just have a small fridge with top freezer. I keep lots of variety in
there and always have space for any leftovers or whatever.

G.

On 5/22/2015 10:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Username" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>>>> through to
>>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue.

DING DING DING! says the woman who "loves to cook"!

>>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd
>>>>>> call that
>>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>>>> bits
>>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>>> chickens and
>>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food
>>>>> they
>>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah
>>>> in your little community.
>>>
>>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
>>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>>
>>
>> She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or
>> companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack people on
>> Usenet and you are her easiest target.
>
> Ack! Please don't say old. I think I am a year older. She just acts
> older. Not more mature. Just more decrepit.

Yeah, I'm decrepit. Funny, I'm not the one living on SSDI payments.

Jill

"Sky" > wrote in message
...

> Bove hasn't learned to exercise restraint yet, and probably never will!
>
> Sky

And you have? This is about the fifth thread separate thread you've started
about Julie in the past couple of days, obviously you have no self control
whatsoever. People that live in glass houses........

Cheri

On Sat, 23 May 2015 04:53:22 -0500, Sky >
wrote:

> On 5/21/2015 7:09 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > For sure, egg prices will go up, and I think our news reports here in Iowa said
> > the industry won't recover for about 18 months. I was only about half listening,
> > but I think that's what they said.
> >
>
> Sad thing is, when prices go up, they rarely come back down, most of the
> time :/ Depends on too many variables, however, and I am not an
> economist, that's for sure
>
I heard on the news that they are considering importing eggs from
Europe. That will be a good thing because they vaccinate their
chickens against salmonella, which means we can make real Caesar salad
dressing again.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:41:50 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> I'm not the one living on SSDI payments.

That she calls "social security" instead the "disability" that it
really is.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Fri, 22 May 2015 22:24:25 -0400, Username >
wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>>> through to
>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>>> that
>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s),
>>>>> bits
>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>
>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>> chickens and
>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for food they
>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit down and eat.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute pariah in
>>> your little community.
>>
>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and start
>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>
>
>She's an old, bitter woman _with out_ any friends, family or
>companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack people on
>Usenet and you are her easiest target.

Should be easy to narrow this poster down to among the lowest IQers
who don't know *without* is one word.

On Fri, 22 May 2015 22:05:33 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

>On 5/22/2015 8:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>> In article >, says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying cans of broth
>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the right or wrong
>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go through to
>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue. I never buy
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> chickens. And isn't that what you need for the broth? I can get two
>>>>>> cartons of broth for $4.00. That's 32 oz. of broth.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater. I'd call
>>>>> that
>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase (s), bits
>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>
>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>> chickens and
>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet UK


It's not worth the trouble of saving scraps when I can buy whole
six-seven pound roasting chickens at typically 89¢/lb, sometimes
priced 79¢/lb. I don't much care for stock made from roasted pickings
and leavings, has very little chicken flavor, makes colored water that
needs a lot more other ingredients for flavoring so costs even more
than simply usinging whole chickens that need only a modicum of
flavorings... I end up with over a gallon of rich golden stock and I
enjoy poached chicken, excellent cold too, actually I much prefer cold
poached chicken from making stock. I still don't waste the scraps
from roasted chicken, the critters devour it all, and my outside cats
enjoy the drippings on their dried food. Besides, after I pick a
roast chicken carcass it's too clean to use for anything but tossing
to the possums. In the US food is relatively inexpensive, I don't
need to hoard scraps to dine on POW gruel.

On 5/23/2015 3:21 AM, Sky wrote:
> OB Food: Molten lava cakes soon to be in the works
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies
> to deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take
> their meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 5/23/2015 3:26 AM, Sky wrote:
> OB Food: Dutch baby is intended for breakfast later this or tomorrow
> morning
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies
> to deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take
> their meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 5/23/2015 3:46 AM, Sky wrote:
> OB Food: Cut corn off cob,
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies
> to deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take
> their meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw