Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
> > always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
> > obviously full of something.

> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
> big and certainly not a pizza.

Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
deal with.

G.

On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:14:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Sure, Marty is past master at talking out of both sides of his mouth.
>
>Does anyone really care? Both sides of his mouth suck.
>
>Cheri

Actually he talks out of his ass.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:43:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
> > free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>
> Jill, you are *really* showing your lack of intelligence here. I've
> always thought better of you.
>
> You got the house for free! Then you took over the maintenance fees
> just like everyone else does. Other's pay a mortgage each month and
> then they also pay for the other fees.
>
> You live in an expensive exclusive neighborhood. I'm sure you pay some
> high monthly fee per month like some condo fee. Not only that, you
> even have to pay about $1000 a year for the Pub restaurant
> fees...whether you eat there or not. You are spending a LOT more
> money living there than if you just sold it and bought a real private
> home or even started renting again.
>
> You got the expensive house for free. If you didn't you would be
> paying a high mortgage in addition to what you are paying now. Hello?
>
> Let me go "here" now..... you evidently haven't worked since you moved
> in there. So they obviously left you a good amount of inheritance
> money in addition to the house. Easy to see that you have the ability
> to maintain this expensive dwelling and still not have to work to keep
> all the payments up.
>
> Face it, Jill. You won. You have retired in an expensive
> neighborhood and at a very young age. I envy you but I'm not jealous.
> Enjoy your good fortune and quit bitching about costs and don't ever
> tell us that you got nothing for free. You are so totally clueless if
> you maintain that silly argument.
>

She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.


--

sf

sf wrote:
>
> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.

And just where do you find my error, sf?

On 5/24/2015 9:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>
> Jill, you are *really* showing your lack of intelligence here. I've
> always thought better of you.
>
> You got the house for free! Then you took over the maintenance fees
> just like everyone else does. Other's pay a mortgage each month and
> then they also pay for the other fees.
>
> You live in an expensive exclusive neighborhood. I'm sure you pay some
> high monthly fee per month like some condo fee. Not only that, you
> even have to pay about $1000 a year for the Pub restaurant
> fees...whether you eat there or not. You are spending a LOT more
> money living there than if you just sold it and bought a real private
> home or even started renting again.
>
> You got the expensive house for free. If you didn't you would be
> paying a high mortgage in addition to what you are paying now. Hello?
>
No... if I hadn't inherited it I would likely still be living in my very
nice apartment in west TN. Where, by the way, I did not experience
annual rent increases for the last three years I was there. Everything
was included in the rent and of course, as a renter, I knew that. If
the neighborhood had declined I might have looked for another place, but
as it is I wound up here, helping my mom.

> Let me go "here" now..... you evidently haven't worked since you moved
> in there.

That would be incorrect. I worked as a receptionist at H&R Block in 2010.

Surprise! I'm working now, part time, in the office at a
tire/automotive shop.

> So they obviously left you a good amount of inheritance

Yeah... and I wound up paying the taxes on a rather large annuity
because Mom didn't list all of us as beneficiaries. I could have kept
it all to myself but I didn't. I gave them their share then got hit
with the tax bill, which they refused to help me pay.

Meanwhile, I suspect my oldest brother has blown through his
inheritance. He's given up his ISP, allegedly because they raised the
rates. (Even here in the boonies I have more than one ISP to choose
from and could bargain for a deal.)

He was a computer technician by trade. He'd get antsy if he didn't have
access to a computer. When he visited here in 2009 not a day went by
without him asking, "Can I use your computer?" Now, he uses the
computer at the library... sometimes. It's free Wifi. He also doesn't
have a telephone. Well, his girlfriend has one but she gets it free
through some Medicaid program. I suspect he's somehow managed to run
out of money.

> Face it, Jill. You won. You have retired

Nope. I have a pretty good handle on how to manage money. I've also
invested rather wisely. I don't store all my eggs in one basket.

I was sorry to read about Mia showing obvious signs of age, BTW. I know
how it feels to think about losing a beloved pet.

Jill

On 5/24/2015 10:57 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:43:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>>
>> Jill, you are *really* showing your lack of intelligence here. I've
>> always thought better of you.
>>
>> You got the house for free! Then you took over the maintenance fees
>> just like everyone else does. Other's pay a mortgage each month and
>> then they also pay for the other fees.
>>
>> You live in an expensive exclusive neighborhood. I'm sure you pay some
>> high monthly fee per month like some condo fee. Not only that, you
>> even have to pay about $1000 a year for the Pub restaurant
>> fees...whether you eat there or not. You are spending a LOT more
>> money living there than if you just sold it and bought a real private
>> home or even started renting again.
>>
>> You got the expensive house for free. If you didn't you would be
>> paying a high mortgage in addition to what you are paying now. Hello?
>>
>> Let me go "here" now..... you evidently haven't worked since you moved
>> in there. So they obviously left you a good amount of inheritance
>> money in addition to the house. Easy to see that you have the ability
>> to maintain this expensive dwelling and still not have to work to keep
>> all the payments up.
>>
>> Face it, Jill. You won. You have retired in an expensive
>> neighborhood and at a very young age. I envy you but I'm not jealous.
>> Enjoy your good fortune and quit bitching about costs and don't ever
>> tell us that you got nothing for free. You are so totally clueless if
>> you maintain that silly argument.
>>
>
> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>
>
Gary doesn't know, I've actually got a job. Just because I haven't
broadcast it all over the place doesn't mean I don't work.

Jill

On 5/24/2015 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>>> Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
>>> always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
>>> obviously full of something.
>
>> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
>> big and certainly not a pizza.
>
> Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
> Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
> deal with.

Yeah, I doubt her freezer is 9 inches wide.

nancy

On 5/24/2015 11:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
>>>> always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
>>>> obviously full of something.
>>
>>> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
>>> big and certainly not a pizza.
>>
>> Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
>> Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
>> deal with.
>
> Yeah, I doubt her freezer is 9 inches wide.
>
> nancy
>
Did she forget there is also a depth measurement? Mine side freezer is
about 14X17. 8.75 cu. ft. according to the sticker on the inside of the
door. That takes into account adjustable shelves. I can fit quite a
bit of food in that small side freezer.

Jill

On Sat, 23 May 2015 23:21:11 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 23 May 2015 21:43:17 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:15:01 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 23 May 2015 21:06:33 -0600, Janet B >
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> standard price here, at Winco, is $.99/lb for whole chickens. At
>> >> Costco the price is $1.09. It's been that way for a year.
>> >> The price relationship stays the same even if the price goes up. A
>> >> year ago the price was $.89. I don't know what Albertsons and Fred
>> >> Meyer charges. I only go to those stores when they have chicken
>> >> breasts for $.99.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >Whole chicken isn't priced like that here. Can't tell you what it is,
>> >but it's not impressive. Bone in, skin on thighs are $1.29 lb and
>> >that is a give away price for this area. I cook a lot of thigh meat,
>> >so it's worthwhile to buy more than I cook in a week and freeze it.
>>
>> I just bought 15 pounds of thighs at Winco last week for $.99/lb..
>> The interesting thing was there wasn't one whole chicken in the store.
>> I figured I had better stock up on what I could get while I could.
>> Janet US
>
>I forgot to mention that was $1.29 at Costco. That's as low as it
>gets here. Grocery store prices are twice or more. Safeway's "low
>everyday" price is $2.99.

You're paying for the ocean view?
Janet US

jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Sheldon says...
> > I can buy whole
> >> six-seven pound roasting chickens at typically 89¢/lb, sometimes
> >> priced 79¢/lb.In the US food is relatively inexpensive

> Please don't believe it. Sheldon either has the ultimate chicken prices
> in the US or he's stuck in 1980. The closest I can find is $1.69/lb.

Jill, here in Virginia chicken is cheap. Not necessarily regular
prices but it goes on sale almost every week. I have NEVER paid more
than a dollar per pound for chicken and that is the meat that I eat
mostly. Sheldon is speaking the truth, I'm sure.

Perdue Oven Stuffer roasters....89 cent/lb max (on sale)

Last week my regular grocery store had leg quarters on sale. 10lb bag
for 48 cents per pound.

Funny (to me). Seems they didn't sell enough of their stock last week.
This week they have packages of thighs or drums (3lbs or more) on sale
for 99 cents per pound.

Sounds like they took their overstock, cut them in half, and are now
selling them for over twice the price as last week.

I buy large when they go on sale as it's so often. I never pay premium
price. You need to watch the week sale ads.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>
> And just where do you find my error, sf?

If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
home, HOA or property taxes.

--

sf

On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:30:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/23/2015 6:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/23/2015 6:10 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, gravesend10
>>> @verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>> I can buy whole
>>>> six-seven pound roasting chickens at typically 89¢/lb, sometimes
>>>> priced 79¢/lb.In the US food is relatively inexpensive,
>>>
>>> such low prices are the result of factory farming practices in USA
>>>
>>> https://www.aspca.org/fight-cruelty/...cruelty/birds-
>>> factory-farms
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>> Please don't believe it. Sheldon either has the ultimate chicken prices
>> in the US or he's stuck in 1980. The closest I can find is $1.69/lb.
>>
>> Jill
>Up until recently, it has been .99 here but is now $1.19 for the store
>brand, about $1.59 for Perdue.

Roasting chickens are on sale for under $1/lb at some store around
here nearly every week... and often some other name brand, but who do
yoose think store brand chicken comes from, the big name company under
whatever label, same as the dozens of store brand toothpastes Colgate
packages. The small fryers here cost about $1.39/lb, but I don't
bother with those pigeons, not worth the dirty pan. There are far
more chicken farmers than there are chicken processors... Perdue etal.
have processsing plants all over, they buy live chickens from dozens
of chicken farmers, packaged under many labels.

On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/23/2015 8:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/23/2015 3:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 10:31:46 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/23/2015 7:41 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> > On 5/22/2015 10:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "Username" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >> ...
>>>>>> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>> ...
>>>>>> >>>>> On 5/22/2015 5:53 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/22/2015 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article >,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> says...
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ROTFL... 'very expensive'.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How could it *possibly* be more expensive than buying
>>>>>> cans of
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> broth
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> online - that's after you find them in stock, with the
>>>>>> right or
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> coupon codes and whatever other convoluted bullshit you go
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> through to
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> buy food...
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, how much does a chicken cost? I have no clue.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > DING DING DING! says the woman who "loves to cook"!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>>>> You've paid $4.00 for a product that's mostly tapwater.
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> >>>>>>> call that
>>>>>> >>>>>>> expensive water.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chicken stock costs me nothing because the chicken carcase
>>>>>> >>>>>>> (s),
>>>>>> >>>>>>> bits
>>>>>> >>>>>>> and vegetables are by products of other meals.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> From an rfc tip, I freeze all the carcases from our roast
>>>>>> >>>>>>> chickens and
>>>>>> >>>>>>> when I have several, make stock.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janet UK
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> She chose to buy her daughter a car rather than a freezer for
>>>>>> food
>>>>>> >>>>>> they
>>>>>> >>>>>> they might all eat. Then again, they don't actually sit
>>>>>> down >>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>>>> eat.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Jill
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> The ugliness you demonstrate here must make you an absolute
>>>>>> >>>>> pariah
>>>>>> >>>>> in your little community.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> It is taking all of my strength not to just let into her and
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> >>>> calling her some bad names. She is sorely tempting me.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> She's an old, bitter woman with out any friends, family or
>>>>>> >>> companionship. She's got nothing better to do than attack
>>>>>> people on
>>>>>> >>> Usenet and you are her easiest target.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ack! Please don't say old. I think I am a year older. She just
>>>>>> acts
>>>>>> >> older. Not more mature. Just more decrepit.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yeah, I'm decrepit. Funny, I'm not the one living on SSDI
>>>>>> payments.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell us some more about all your bills and how they erase having a
>>>>>> free
>>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> She's not saying that. She's just saying there's no such thing as a
>>>>> free lunch.
>>>>
>>>> Actually she is saying that.
>>>
>>> Uh, what? Houses without mortgages are not free. Only an idiot
>>> thinks so. Guess what? I don't have a car payment, either. I still
>>> have to pay for vehicle maintenance. You and Cabrito are idiots if
>>> you think owning = free.
>>
>> Everyone pays for maintenance. Even if you rent, that is factored into
>> your rent. You are neither paying rent or mortgage payment.
>
> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>
> Jill


YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...

Period.

Stop making excuses.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:49:08 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Sat, 23 May 2015 23:21:11 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >
> >I forgot to mention that was $1.29 at Costco. That's as low as it
> >gets here. Grocery store prices are twice or more. Safeway's "low
> >everyday" price is $2.99.
>
> You're paying for the ocean view?

In a way, yes. I'm also paying for living in the middle of a hot
employment market where median rent of a (very small) 1-bedroom
apartment is $3460 and rising. I was down at DD's in San Jose this
week and noticed the Safeway closest to my GD's preschool is even more
expensive than mine is. No ocean views there... just lots of people
who can afford to pay cash for homes in the million dollar(s) range
and then pour remodeling money into them. Seriously!


--

sf

On Sat, 23 May 2015 21:43:17 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:15:01 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 May 2015 21:06:33 -0600, Janet B >
>>wrote:
>>
>>> standard price here, at Winco, is $.99/lb for whole chickens. At
>>> Costco the price is $1.09. It's been that way for a year.
>>> The price relationship stays the same even if the price goes up. A
>>> year ago the price was $.89. I don't know what Albertsons and Fred
>>> Meyer charges. I only go to those stores when they have chicken
>>> breasts for $.99.
>>> Janet US
>>
>>Whole chicken isn't priced like that here. Can't tell you what it is,
>>but it's not impressive. Bone in, skin on thighs are $1.29 lb and
>>that is a give away price for this area. I cook a lot of thigh meat,
>>so it's worthwhile to buy more than I cook in a week and freeze it.
>
>I just bought 15 pounds of thighs at Winco last week for $.99/lb..
>The interesting thing was there wasn't one whole chicken in the store.
>I figured I had better stock up on what I could get while I could.
>Janet US

Here there are mostly whole chickens, for some reason in rural areas
other than skinless/boneless breasts cut up chicken doesn't sell well.
Even the Super Walmarts near here sell mostly whole chicken. Even
though chicken is very inexpensive I don't buy much, if I buy four
roasters a year it's a lot, once I've handled raw poultry I lose my
appetite for it.

On 5/24/2015 7:43 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>
> Jill, you are *really* showing your lack of intelligence here. I've
> always thought better of you.
>
> You got the house for free! Then you took over the maintenance fees
> just like everyone else does. Other's pay a mortgage each month and
> then they also pay for the other fees.
>
> You live in an expensive exclusive neighborhood. I'm sure you pay some
> high monthly fee per month like some condo fee. Not only that, you
> even have to pay about $1000 a year for the Pub restaurant
> fees...whether you eat there or not. You are spending a LOT more
> money living there than if you just sold it and bought a real private
> home or even started renting again.
>
> You got the expensive house for free. If you didn't you would be
> paying a high mortgage in addition to what you are paying now. Hello?
>
> Let me go "here" now..... you evidently haven't worked since you moved
> in there. So they obviously left you a good amount of inheritance
> money in addition to the house. Easy to see that you have the ability
> to maintain this expensive dwelling and still not have to work to keep
> all the payments up.
>
> Face it, Jill. You won. You have retired in an expensive
> neighborhood and at a very young age. I envy you but I'm not jealous.
> Enjoy your good fortune and quit bitching about costs and don't ever
> tell us that you got nothing for free. You are so totally clueless if
> you maintain that silly argument.
>
> G.
>
+1

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > sf wrote:
> > >
> > > She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
> >
> > And just where do you find my error, sf?
>
> If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
> home, HOA or property taxes.

She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no
mortgage... and more to upkeep it.

WHOOSH to both of you airheads! Seriously to claim nothing free? You
are both dumb blondes.

Really Cory?

Like I said....she can sell it, and whatever she walks away with is
her free part. Whining about she got nothing free is the lamest thing
I've ever heard someone claim....and now you agree. You're an airhead
too. And to think you were a teacher during your working career. God
help all those now grown up kids.

On 5/24/2015 8:21 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 20:14:45 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Sure, Marty is past master at talking out of both sides of his mouth.
>>
>> Does anyone really care? Both sides of his mouth suck.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Actually he talks out of his ass.
>

That accounts for the pungent aroma of rhetoric then.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:17:42 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> "Gary" wrote:
> >>> Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
> >>> always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
> >>> obviously full of something.
> >
> >> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
> >> big and certainly not a pizza.
> >
> > Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
> > Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
> > deal with.
>
> Yeah, I doubt her freezer is 9 inches wide.
>
She has often said her kitchen is small, so her side by side would be
small too. If it's only 31 inches wide, then 9 would make sense. Why
anyone would buy a side by side that narrow is anybody's guess. I'd
choose a normal style with a refrigerator top and bottom freezer.


--

sf

Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>
> On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> > Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
> > free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
> >
> > Jill
>
> YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
>
> Period.
>
> Stop making excuses.

I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
still could claim that she got nothing.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:48:09 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 11:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> > On 5/24/2015 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Gary" wrote:
> >>>> Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
> >>>> always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
> >>>> obviously full of something.
> >>
> >>> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
> >>> big and certainly not a pizza.
> >>
> >> Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
> >> Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
> >> deal with.
> >
> > Yeah, I doubt her freezer is 9 inches wide.
> >
> > nancy
> >
> Did she forget there is also a depth measurement? Mine side freezer is
> about 14X17. 8.75 cu. ft. according to the sticker on the inside of the
> door. That takes into account adjustable shelves. I can fit quite a
> bit of food in that small side freezer.
>

The small one I found online was totally unacceptable: deeper than it
is wide. I hate side by side refrigerators, so I can't be objective
when it comes to critiquing them.


--

sf

On 5/24/2015 8:57 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:43:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>>
>> Jill, you are *really* showing your lack of intelligence here. I've
>> always thought better of you.
>>
>> You got the house for free! Then you took over the maintenance fees
>> just like everyone else does. Other's pay a mortgage each month and
>> then they also pay for the other fees.
>>
>> You live in an expensive exclusive neighborhood. I'm sure you pay some
>> high monthly fee per month like some condo fee. Not only that, you
>> even have to pay about $1000 a year for the Pub restaurant
>> fees...whether you eat there or not. You are spending a LOT more
>> money living there than if you just sold it and bought a real private
>> home or even started renting again.
>>
>> You got the expensive house for free. If you didn't you would be
>> paying a high mortgage in addition to what you are paying now. Hello?
>>
>> Let me go "here" now..... you evidently haven't worked since you moved
>> in there. So they obviously left you a good amount of inheritance
>> money in addition to the house. Easy to see that you have the ability
>> to maintain this expensive dwelling and still not have to work to keep
>> all the payments up.
>>
>> Face it, Jill. You won. You have retired in an expensive
>> neighborhood and at a very young age. I envy you but I'm not jealous.
>> Enjoy your good fortune and quit bitching about costs and don't ever
>> tell us that you got nothing for free. You are so totally clueless if
>> you maintain that silly argument.
>>
>
> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>
>
Nope.

The house was free, something to celebrate, not make excuses for.

On 5/24/2015 9:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> Yeah... and I wound up paying the taxes on a rather large annuity
> because Mom didn't list all of us as beneficiaries. I could have kept
> it all to myself but I didn't. I gave them their share then got hit
> with the tax bill, which they refused to help me pay.
>
> Meanwhile, I suspect my oldest brother has blown through his
> inheritance. He's given up his ISP, allegedly because they raised the
> rates. (Even here in the boonies I have more than one ISP to choose
> from and could bargain for a deal.)
>
> He was a computer technician by trade. He'd get antsy if he didn't have
> access to a computer. When he visited here in 2009 not a day went by
> without him asking, "Can I use your computer?" Now, he uses the
> computer at the library... sometimes. It's free Wifi. He also doesn't
> have a telephone. Well, his girlfriend has one but she gets it free
> through some Medicaid program. I suspect he's somehow managed to run
> out of money.


TMI!!!!

On 5/24/2015 9:17 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 10:17 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> Just curious, Julie. What do you mainly keep in your freezer? You
>>>> always say you have no room in your freezer for anything. It's
>>>> obviously full of something.
>>
>>> I measured and mine is only 9" wide. So it won't hold anything very
>>> big and certainly not a pizza.
>>
>> Are you serious? 9" wide is very narrow. No wonder you have problems.
>> Even with many shelves on a side-by-side, that narrow would be hard to
>> deal with.
>
> Yeah, I doubt her freezer is 9 inches wide.
>
> nancy
>
Interior dimension?

It's entirely possible for a smaller side by side with an icemaker..

On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:06:22 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> sf wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > > sf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
> > >
> > > And just where do you find my error, sf?
> >
> > If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
> > home, HOA or property taxes.
>
> She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no
> mortgage... and more to upkeep it.
>
> WHOOSH to both of you airheads! Seriously to claim nothing free? You
> are both dumb blondes.
>
> Really Cory?
>
> Like I said....she can sell it, and whatever she walks away with is
> her free part. Whining about she got nothing free is the lamest thing
> I've ever heard someone claim....and now you agree. You're an airhead
> too. And to think you were a teacher during your working career. God
> help all those now grown up kids.

Thank god you were NEVER a teacher.

--

sf

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:21:28 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 9:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> > Yeah... and I wound up paying the taxes on a rather large annuity
> > because Mom didn't list all of us as beneficiaries. I could have kept
> > it all to myself but I didn't. I gave them their share then got hit
> > with the tax bill, which they refused to help me pay.
> >
> > Meanwhile, I suspect my oldest brother has blown through his
> > inheritance. He's given up his ISP, allegedly because they raised the
> > rates. (Even here in the boonies I have more than one ISP to choose
> > from and could bargain for a deal.)
> >
> > He was a computer technician by trade. He'd get antsy if he didn't have
> > access to a computer. When he visited here in 2009 not a day went by
> > without him asking, "Can I use your computer?" Now, he uses the
> > computer at the library... sometimes. It's free Wifi. He also doesn't
> > have a telephone. Well, his girlfriend has one but she gets it free
> > through some Medicaid program. I suspect he's somehow managed to run
> > out of money.
>
>
> TMI!!!!

Considering what a total jerk he was when his parents were in their
sunset (so to speak), it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

--

sf

On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> >
> > On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > > Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
> > > free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
> >
> > Period.
> >
> > Stop making excuses.
>
> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
> still could claim that she got nothing.

Good god, Gary. You're so full of BS, it's oozing out your ears.

--

sf

On 5/24/2015 10:43 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>>
>> And just where do you find my error, sf?
>
> If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
> home, HOA or property taxes.
>

The home was free, unquestionably.

"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 23 May 2015 22:30:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 5/23/2015 6:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2015 6:10 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >, gravesend10
>>>> @verizon.net says...
>>>>>
>>>> I can buy whole
>>>>> six-seven pound roasting chickens at typically 89¢/lb, sometimes
>>>>> priced 79¢/lb.In the US food is relatively inexpensive,
>>>>
>>>> such low prices are the result of factory farming practices in USA
>>>>
>>>> https://www.aspca.org/fight-cruelty/...cruelty/birds-
>>>> factory-farms
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>>
>>> Please don't believe it. Sheldon either has the ultimate chicken prices
>>> in the US or he's stuck in 1980. The closest I can find is $1.69/lb.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>Up until recently, it has been .99 here but is now $1.19 for the store
>>brand, about $1.59 for Perdue.

Same here, usually .99 a pound at one of the stores every week.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 11:14 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
>>
>> Period.
>>
>> Stop making excuses.
>
> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
> still could claim that she got nothing.
>


I'm not going to wade into the family side of it, it's nice she got a house.

She needs to own that, and already does!
;-)

On 5/24/2015 11:38 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:21:28 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 9:10 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> Yeah... and I wound up paying the taxes on a rather large annuity
>>> because Mom didn't list all of us as beneficiaries. I could have kept
>>> it all to myself but I didn't. I gave them their share then got hit
>>> with the tax bill, which they refused to help me pay.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I suspect my oldest brother has blown through his
>>> inheritance. He's given up his ISP, allegedly because they raised the
>>> rates. (Even here in the boonies I have more than one ISP to choose
>>> from and could bargain for a deal.)
>>>
>>> He was a computer technician by trade. He'd get antsy if he didn't have
>>> access to a computer. When he visited here in 2009 not a day went by
>>> without him asking, "Can I use your computer?" Now, he uses the
>>> computer at the library... sometimes. It's free Wifi. He also doesn't
>>> have a telephone. Well, his girlfriend has one but she gets it free
>>> through some Medicaid program. I suspect he's somehow managed to run
>>> out of money.
>>
>>
>> TMI!!!!
>
> Considering what a total jerk he was when his parents were in their
> sunset (so to speak), it couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
>
This whole thing needs to unwind soon.

sf wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Like I said....she can sell it, and whatever she walks away with is
> > her free part. Whining about she got nothing free is the lamest thing
> > I've ever heard someone claim....and now you agree. You're an airhead
> > too. And to think you were a teacher during your working career. God
> > help all those now grown up kids.
>
> Thank god you were NEVER a teacher.

LOL! Probably a true thing for sure but that doesn't distract from you
being maybe a bad one. ;-D

On 5/24/2015 1:06 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>>>
>>> And just where do you find my error, sf?
>>
>> If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
>> home, HOA or property taxes.
>
> She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no
> mortgage... and more to upkeep it.
>
No, I did not inherit a lot of money. Did you miss the point where I
said I am working? I have a job. You claim I don't.

Jill

sf wrote:
>
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> > >
> > > On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > > Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
> > > > free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
> > >
> > > Period.
> > >
> > > Stop making excuses.
> >
> > I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
> > She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
> > free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
> > one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
> > still could claim that she got nothing.
>
> Good god, Gary. You're so full of BS, it's oozing out your ears.

And where in the hell did your mind go with this one? When Jill left
her apartment in Memphis to move in and take care of her mom, she
walked away with nothing. Whenever (if ever) she walks away from her
inherited FREE house, she will walk away with a few hundred thousand
dollars. Are you also so clueless as not figure that out? whoosh!



G.

On 5/24/2015 2:38 PM, Gary wrote:
> sf wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>>>>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
>>>>
>>>> Period.
>>>>
>>>> Stop making excuses.
>>>
>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
>>> still could claim that she got nothing.
>>
>> Good god, Gary. You're so full of BS, it's oozing out your ears.
>
> And where in the hell did your mind go with this one? When Jill left
> her apartment in Memphis to move in and take care of her mom, she
> walked away with nothing. Whenever (if ever) she walks away from her
> inherited FREE house, she will walk away with a few hundred thousand
> dollars. Are you also so clueless as not figure that out? whoosh!
>
> G.
>
When did you get a look at my bank accounts? You have no idea how much
money I have. I'm working. I have a job. Whoosh!

Jill

On 5/24/2015 12:36 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 1:06 PM, Gary wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary.
>>>>
>>>> And just where do you find my error, sf?
>>>
>>> If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her
>>> home, HOA or property taxes.
>>
>> She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no
>> mortgage... and more to upkeep it.
>>
> No, I did not inherit a lot of money. Did you miss the point where I
> said I am working? I have a job. You claim I don't.
>
> Jill


I'm curious, given how hard you've been riding Julie, how does it feel
to have the same treatment going your way?

Turnabout's fair play, yes?

How long have you been beating your cats?

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:

> > sf wrote:
> >> Good god, Gary. You're so full of BS, it's oozing out your ears.
> >
> > And where in the hell did your mind go with this one? When Jill left
> > her apartment in Memphis to move in and take care of her mom, she
> > walked away with nothing. Whenever (if ever) she walks away from her
> > inherited FREE house, she will walk away with a few hundred thousand
> > dollars. Are you also so clueless as not figure that out? whoosh!
> >
> When did you get a look at my bank accounts? You have no idea how much
> money I have. I'm working. I have a job. Whoosh!

First time you've ever mentioned a job except for the old days before
Dataw.

Are you two just pulling my chain here? You got a free house, Jill. So
sad that you don't appreciate that fact. They should have left it to
your brothers since you feel this way. Your one brother was even mad
that he didn't get part of it. SF is just an all-around idiot so I
pay her no mind but I've always thought better of you.

Let me make this simple for you. When you left your apartment, you got
nothing from that situation. Whenever you leave Dataw, you will walk
away with a few hundred thousand. Tell me again how you didn't get
anything for free. good grief...this whole thing is so silly.

On 5/24/2015 12:43 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 2:38 PM, Gary wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
>>>>>
>>>>> Period.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop making excuses.
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
>>>> still could claim that she got nothing.
>>>
>>> Good god, Gary. You're so full of BS, it's oozing out your ears.
>>
>> And where in the hell did your mind go with this one? When Jill left
>> her apartment in Memphis to move in and take care of her mom, she
>> walked away with nothing. Whenever (if ever) she walks away from her
>> inherited FREE house, she will walk away with a few hundred thousand
>> dollars. Are you also so clueless as not figure that out? whoosh!
>>
>> G.
>>
> When did you get a look at my bank accounts? You have no idea how much
> money I have. I'm working. I have a job. Whoosh!
>
> Jill


Payback's a bitch, ain't it?

On Sun, 24 May 2015 13:14:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2015 5:08 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> > Hence my point. I still have to pay for maintenance so the house isn't
>> > free. My parents didn't have a mortgage either. So what?
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> YOU paid NOTHING for ownership of it = FREE...
>>
>> Period.
>>
>> Stop making excuses.
>
>I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her).
>She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for
>free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to
>one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it and Jill
>still could claim that she got nothing.

Wasn't the original issue whether it was free to live in her house
because she had inherited it? And that arose from Julie not
understanding that nothing is free, someone, somewhere pays for what
appears to be free. In this case, it costs Jill to live in the house.
She pays property taxes, lawn care, to get the house painted, get a
new roof, new carpet, etc. These costs would be included in a rent
payment if she were renting. Julie's idea that she got a 'free' lunch
at her mother's facility is wrong. It was free to Julie, but the
resident's of the facility paid for her lunch by paying their monthly
charge. Julie just doesn't see that there is cost involved in
everything, that somewhere someone is paying and someone else is
getting charged to cover that payment. She doesn't understand that we
all are paying for her SSDI.
Janet US

On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:58:46 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:49:08 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 May 2015 23:21:11 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I forgot to mention that was $1.29 at Costco. That's as low as it
>> >gets here. Grocery store prices are twice or more. Safeway's "low
>> >everyday" price is $2.99.
>>
>> You're paying for the ocean view?
>
>In a way, yes. I'm also paying for living in the middle of a hot
>employment market where median rent of a (very small) 1-bedroom
>apartment is $3460 and rising. I was down at DD's in San Jose this
>week and noticed the Safeway closest to my GD's preschool is even more
>expensive than mine is. No ocean views there... just lots of people
>who can afford to pay cash for homes in the million dollar(s) range
>and then pour remodeling money into them. Seriously!

When people move from your area to my area, they have a huge pocket of
cash. They end up buying top end houses in a top end area and then
find the job pay scale here doesn't cover the long-term cost of having
such a house.
Janet US