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"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message > ... >> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> Janet > wrote: >>>>> In article >, says... >>>>> >>>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). >>>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >>>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to >>>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >>>>> >>>>> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to >>>> have >>>>> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to >>>>> her brothers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Janet UK >>>> >>>> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also >>> got >>>> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by > >>> their >>>> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This > >>> continuous >>>> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here >>> in >>>> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >>> >>> If you are referring to me then that is not true at all. Washington >>> state is one in which money is shared by the spouses. When we first got >>> married, it took every dime that I had in my savings to furnish the house >>> and buy the appliances. He canceled his bank account and I put him on >>> mine. I am older than him and I had a better credit rating and higher >>> line of credit with my bank. I also worked after I was married. >>> >>> I only had to quit work when pregnant due to threatened miscarriages. I >>> had been working at a golf course and the job required heavy lifting. My >>> boss was afraid I would have trouble at work. In the end, I wouldn't >>> have been able to work, not so much from actual health problems but all >>> the Dr. and lab appointments that I had to make during what would have >>> been my working hours. I was at the Dr. at least three times a week >>> because I was considered a high risk pregnancy. >>> >>> After I had the baby, my health began to decline in many ways and I >>> eventually became disabled. I do get disability and the money that I get >>> now is what pays the bills. All of my automatic bill payments come from >>> that account. Before we were married, we split the bills up in a >>> different way. I won't bother to get into that here. We did not make >>> the same amount of money. That is very common for married people. One >>> makes more than the other. >>> >>> I also do all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc. here. Okay, >>> Angela does do some of it because there are a few things I simply can not >>> do but... My husband does none of it. That should count for something. >>> None of that would apply to Jill since she lives alone. And it doesn't >>> take away from the fact that she still inherited the house. >> >> 1. I wasn't referring to you, egoist. >> 2. Your tale of disability woe is irrelevant. >> 3. Your "shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc." is no different from Jill. > She >> does all that too. With her money. That you do it doesn't count for more >> or make you more worthy of your house than Jill of hers. > > It certainly is because she only has to do it for herself. >> >> Come to think of it, you shuffled your dad off to a nursing home in his >> final days instead of taking care of him (I don't give a shit what your >> excuse for that is), while Jill moved to entirely different state to take >> care of her parents, in their home, until the end. Both of them. She >> earned her house just as much as you think you earn yours. > > My dad was never in a nursing home. And I am not going to go into > specifics here but his medical conditions were such that nobody in the > family could properly care for him. He could no longer live in his own > home for reasons I can't get into here. Nor could we move him in here. > He needed special things. > > You also seem to be forgetting that *we* moved back here to help with > *my* parents. Yes, my husband was in the military but... The last moves > that we made were so that we could take care of parents. We specifically > got at close to PA as we could to try to help with his mother. Long > story short there, she needed to be in a nursing home. > > Taking care of a parent in their own home is a nice thought. But each > case is different. Not everyone can do that. And I myself am disabled. > The last straw came for me when I dropped my MIL trying to get her from > point A to point B. I will not give specifics. She did get hurt! I did > not want to do this but my husband insisted that I do it instead of him. > Let me just stay in her case, some family members wanted her in the > nursing home and others were fighting us on it. Then a bad situation > happened that I will not get into here. But bottom line, we were forced > to put her in there. And she is doing MUCH better in the home. She is > back in the city where she was born and raised and she knows people > there. Now she is happy. She was not happy at home. She was isolated. > > Every situation is different. But it kind of sounds like you are > claiming that if Jill had not moved back to take care of her parents, > they wouldn't have given her the house. I never claimed that in the slightest. Regardless, you taking care of your brood is hardly different than Jill taking care of her parents no matter how you try to paint it. If you really want to get persnickety about it, while you are obligated to take of your family (because you'd be homeless if you didn't), she took care of hers voluntarily. -- jinx the minx |
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"Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message > ... >> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> Janet > wrote: >>>>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). >>>>>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >>>>>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to >>>>>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to >>>>>> >>>> have >>>>>>> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not >>>>>> to >>>>>>> her brothers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janet UK >>>>>> >>>>>> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also >>>>> >>> got >>>>>> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for >>>>>> by >>>>> > >>> their >>>>>> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This > >>>>>> >>> >>>>> continuous >>>>>> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here >>>>> >>> in >>>>>> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >>>>> >>>>> If you are referring to me then that is not true at all. Washington >>>>> state is one in which money is shared by the spouses. When we first >>>> got >>>>> married, it took every dime that I had in my savings to furnish the >>>> house >>>>> and buy the appliances. He canceled his bank account and I put him on >>>>> mine. I am older than him and I had a better credit rating and higher >>>>> line of credit with my bank. I also worked after I was married. >>>>> >>>>> I only had to quit work when pregnant due to threatened miscarriages. >>>> I >>>>> had been working at a golf course and the job required heavy lifting. >>>> My >>>>> boss was afraid I would have trouble at work. In the end, I wouldn't >>>>> have been able to work, not so much from actual health problems but all >>>>> the Dr. and lab appointments that I had to make during what would have >>>>> been my working hours. I was at the Dr. at least three times a week >>>>> because I was considered a high risk pregnancy. >>>>> >>>>> After I had the baby, my health began to decline in many ways and I >>>>> eventually became disabled. I do get disability and the money that I >>>> get >>>>> now is what pays the bills. All of my automatic bill payments come >>>> from >>>>> that account. Before we were married, we split the bills up in a >>>>> different way. I won't bother to get into that here. We did not make >>>>> the same amount of money. That is very common for married people. One >>>>> makes more than the other. >>>>> >>>>> I also do all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc. here. Okay, >>>>> Angela does do some of it because there are a few things I simply can >>>> not >>>>> do but... My husband does none of it. That should count for something. >>>>> None of that would apply to Jill since she lives alone. And it doesn't >>>>> take away from the fact that she still inherited the house. >>>> >>>> 1. I wasn't referring to you, egoist. >>>> 2. Your tale of disability woe is irrelevant. >>>> 3. Your "shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc." is no different from Jill. >>> > She >>>> does all that too. With her money. That you do it doesn't count for >>> more >>>> or make you more worthy of your house than Jill of hers. >>> >>> It certainly is because she only has to do it for herself. >>>> >>>> Come to think of it, you shuffled your dad off to a nursing home in his >>>> final days instead of taking care of him (I don't give a shit what your >>>> excuse for that is), while Jill moved to entirely different state to >>> take >>>> care of her parents, in their home, until the end. Both of them. She >>>> earned her house just as much as you think you earn yours. >>> >>> My dad was never in a nursing home. And I am not going to go into >>> specifics here but his medical conditions were such that nobody in the >>> family could properly care for him. He could no longer live in his own >>> home for reasons I can't get into here. Nor could we move him in here. >>> He needed special things. >>> >>> You also seem to be forgetting that *we* moved back here to help with >>> *my* parents. Yes, my husband was in the military but... The last moves >>> that we made were so that we could take care of parents. We specifically >>> got at close to PA as we could to try to help with his mother. Long >>> story short there, she needed to be in a nursing home. >>> >>> Taking care of a parent in their own home is a nice thought. But each >>> case is different. Not everyone can do that. And I myself am disabled. >>> The last straw came for me when I dropped my MIL trying to get her from >>> point A to point B. I will not give specifics. She did get hurt! I did >>> not want to do this but my husband insisted that I do it instead of him. >>> Let me just stay in her case, some family members wanted her in the >>> nursing home and others were fighting us on it. Then a bad situation >>> happened that I will not get into here. But bottom line, we were forced >>> to put her in there. And she is doing MUCH better in the home. She is >>> back in the city where she was born and raised and she knows people >>> there. Now she is happy. She was not happy at home. She was isolated. >>> >>> Every situation is different. But it kind of sounds like you are >>> claiming that if Jill had not moved back to take care of her parents, >>> they wouldn't have given her the house. >> >> I never claimed that in the slightest. Regardless, you taking care of > your >> brood is hardly different than Jill taking care of her parents no matter >> how you try to paint it. If you really want to get persnickety about it, >> while you are obligated to take of your family (because you'd be homeless >> if you didn't), she took care of hers voluntarily. > > Because I would be homeless if I didn't? How is this? And you don't > know that she did it voluntarily. Unless you know something that I > don't. I don't know one way or the other. I'm fairly certain she wasn't court ordered or had a gun to her head making her take care of her parents, so yes, it was voluntary. She could have put them in a home but she didn't. You did. Give it up. -- jinx the minx |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 15:11:42 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message .. . >> On Tue, 26 May 2015 20:09:41 +0100, Janet > wrote: >> >>>In article >, says... >>>> >>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> > In article >, says... >>>> >> >>>> >> sf wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > sf wrote: >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary. >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > And just where do you find my error, sf? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her >>>> >> > home, HOA or property taxes. >>>> >> >>>> >> She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no >>>> >> mortgage... and more to upkeep it. >>>> > >>>> > You haven't a clue about property ownership or sales. >>>> > >>>> > It's a small house in a perpetually self-limiting market, and she has >>>> > said that far from inheriting enough money to live on, she lost out >>>> > because her brothers left her to pay all the taxes. >>>> >>>> All the taxes? How much could those taxes possibly be? >>> >>> Maybe enough she'd got none left for upkeep? >>> >>> >>> Surely they would >>>> have to be far less than monthly rent or house payments. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >> Like I said....she can sell it, >>>> > >>>> > If you bothered to pay attention Jill has repeatedly said why she >>>> > can't >>>> > afford to sell it ; market reasons entirely credible to anyone >>>> > experienced in selling and buying property. >>>> >>>> OTOH she hasn't tried to sell it. >>> >>> IIRC her neighbours have tried to sell theirs, with no success; and >>>their houses are in better condition than Jills. >>> >>> In a recession, pensions and investment incomes are often hit even >>>harder than wages. It's a retirement complex. No wonder retired people >>>(living on pensions and investments) don't want to commit themselves to >>>buying a lifetime of compulsory communal costs they can never control. >>> >>> Janet UK >> >> what about inheritance taxes? death duties? >> Janet US > >What do those things mean? From Wiki: An inheritance or estate tax is a tax paid by a person who inherits money or property or a levy on the estate (money and property) of a person who has died.[1] International tax law distinguishes between an estate tax and an inheritance tax—an estate tax is assessed on the assets of the deceased, while an inheritance tax is assessed on the legacies received by the estate's beneficiaries. Note that this distinction is not always observed; for example, the UK's "inheritance tax" is a tax on the assets of the deceased, and strictly speaking is therefore an estate tax. For historical reasons, the term death duty is still used colloquially (though not legally) in the UK and some Commonwealth countries. Janet US |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 18:33:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 5/25/2015 3:01 PM, Janet B wrote: >> On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:19:49 -0400, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >> snip >>> >>> You are clueless. When the estate was settled my brothers got a goodly >>> share of the furnishings in the house. In fact, after Dad's funeral >>> they were walking around pointing out all the things they wanted. I had >>> to tell them to shut up, Mom is in the next room and you're picking over >>> her belongings like she's already gone. >>> >>> Jill >> >> I've had nothing but bad experiences with death and inheritance. >> Grandfather, aunt, mother, and father. I figured there would be a >> period of mourning before descending like vultures. Not so. I was >> even executor, didn't make any difference. Cars were handed out to >> relative's children, stuff striped off the walls, household money >> stash gone, and house listed with a realtor by the time the last >> breath was taken. All of my father's stuff is gone -- his family had >> a history in our city -- all gone and I don't know who got the stuff. >> My advice, love your parents while you can, ease their leaving and >> don't even think that any memorabilia will pass to you. Don't fight >> about it, it ain't worth the heartache. >> Janet US >> >I'm so sorry to hear that. I remember when Grandma Ruffner McQuown died >Dad went to Ohio to meet his older sister to clear out her house. > >When asked, years before, he had told his mother there were really only >two thing of hers he wanted. One was a small drop-lid writing desk with >a glass-front bookcase on top. I remember seeing it in her house as a >child. Very pretty, and Dad always enjoyed writing by hand so I can >understand the appeal. The other thing he had been promised was a >wooden family infant's cradle. > >My parents and I were living in Tennessee when he was told she died. >Before he and his sister could get to the family home in Ohio, a swarm >of "distant cousins" from Pennsylvania (whom he, his sister and likely >Grandma Lena Ruffner McQuown herself hadn't seen or heard from in >decades) descended. They pretty much stripped the house of most of the >furniture before the immediate family could arrange to get there. > >I cannot imagine. Small town, did they have to prove who they were? >Nope, sounded to me like they just asked where the house was, walked in >and picked and chose and drove off with it. > >Dad called and told us what had happened. I felt so bad for him and my >Aunt Winifred. He was trying to sound upbeat but Mom told me what happened. > >Grandma didn't leave a Will. She depended on surviving children to sort >things out. She obviously didn't know some "distant cousins" would show >up upon hearing about her death. > >Jill Those relatives of yours showed up at my grandfather's house immediately he died. Janet US |
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jinx the minx wrote:
>Janet wrote: >>Gary says... >> >>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). >>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to >>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >> >> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to have >> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to >> her brothers. > >And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also got >their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by their >working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This continuous >rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in >RFC that are part of a single earner household. The real issue is nary a soul here makes the intimate machinations of their personal life and personal finances so public, and several times every day... I still haven't decided if she's begging for a medal, pity, or what. Truth is anyone on the net can fabricate any story, doesn't mean any portion of the rant is true. I was here every day when both my parents passed, no one here knew, it was no ones beeswax, I never said a word... had I made a big issue how I cared for them probably no one would have believed me anyway. I really don't think a cooking group is a place to openly share ones personal minutia, it would be best to take it to email with those who one trusts won't blab. All these fercocktah personal stories people tell here are not worth a whit for their truth, all are lies heavily embellished to make one look like Momma Teresa. I believe about maybe 5% of the stories I read here... just like when someone claims they have megabucks steeplechase etchings but doesn't display them how true can the fairytale be. If I claimed I was feeding bald eagles here who would believe me if I showed no proof. Fact is I've seen bald eagles here but they've been too elusive for me to get pics... one day when I least expect to I will. I don't announce when I've lost pets either, my detractors will just rub in their glee. I come here because it's a cooking group, if this kitchen is too hot for you get the **** out and don't let the door slap your 300 pound stinkin' unbathed phony balogna ass. Yoose only eat bread you baked, yeah, right... I've yet to see a slice!~ |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:48:07 +0000 (UTC), jinx the minx
> wrote: >"Julie Bove" > wrote: >> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> Janet > wrote: >>>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). >>>>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >>>>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to >>>>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >>>>>> >>>>>> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to >>>> have >>>>>> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to >>>>>> her brothers. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Janet UK >>>>> >>>>> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also >>> got >>>>> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by > >>> their >>>>> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This > >>> continuous >>>>> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here >>> in >>>>> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >>>> >>>> If you are referring to me then that is not true at all. Washington >>>> state is one in which money is shared by the spouses. When we first got >>>> married, it took every dime that I had in my savings to furnish the house >>>> and buy the appliances. He canceled his bank account and I put him on >>>> mine. I am older than him and I had a better credit rating and higher >>>> line of credit with my bank. I also worked after I was married. >>>> >>>> I only had to quit work when pregnant due to threatened miscarriages. I >>>> had been working at a golf course and the job required heavy lifting. My >>>> boss was afraid I would have trouble at work. In the end, I wouldn't >>>> have been able to work, not so much from actual health problems but all >>>> the Dr. and lab appointments that I had to make during what would have >>>> been my working hours. I was at the Dr. at least three times a week >>>> because I was considered a high risk pregnancy. >>>> >>>> After I had the baby, my health began to decline in many ways and I >>>> eventually became disabled. I do get disability and the money that I get >>>> now is what pays the bills. All of my automatic bill payments come from >>>> that account. Before we were married, we split the bills up in a >>>> different way. I won't bother to get into that here. We did not make >>>> the same amount of money. That is very common for married people. One >>>> makes more than the other. >>>> >>>> I also do all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc. here. Okay, >>>> Angela does do some of it because there are a few things I simply can not >>>> do but... My husband does none of it. That should count for something. >>>> None of that would apply to Jill since she lives alone. And it doesn't >>>> take away from the fact that she still inherited the house. >>> >>> 1. I wasn't referring to you, egoist. >>> 2. Your tale of disability woe is irrelevant. >>> 3. Your "shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc." is no different from Jill. > She >>> does all that too. With her money. That you do it doesn't count for more >>> or make you more worthy of your house than Jill of hers. >> >> It certainly is because she only has to do it for herself. >>> >>> Come to think of it, you shuffled your dad off to a nursing home in his >>> final days instead of taking care of him (I don't give a shit what your >>> excuse for that is), while Jill moved to entirely different state to take >>> care of her parents, in their home, until the end. Both of them. She >>> earned her house just as much as you think you earn yours. >> >> My dad was never in a nursing home. And I am not going to go into >> specifics here but his medical conditions were such that nobody in the >> family could properly care for him. He could no longer live in his own >> home for reasons I can't get into here. Nor could we move him in here. >> He needed special things. >> >> You also seem to be forgetting that *we* moved back here to help with >> *my* parents. Yes, my husband was in the military but... The last moves >> that we made were so that we could take care of parents. We specifically >> got at close to PA as we could to try to help with his mother. Long >> story short there, she needed to be in a nursing home. >> >> Taking care of a parent in their own home is a nice thought. But each >> case is different. Not everyone can do that. And I myself am disabled. >> The last straw came for me when I dropped my MIL trying to get her from >> point A to point B. I will not give specifics. She did get hurt! I did >> not want to do this but my husband insisted that I do it instead of him. >> Let me just stay in her case, some family members wanted her in the >> nursing home and others were fighting us on it. Then a bad situation >> happened that I will not get into here. But bottom line, we were forced >> to put her in there. And she is doing MUCH better in the home. She is >> back in the city where she was born and raised and she knows people >> there. Now she is happy. She was not happy at home. She was isolated. >> >> Every situation is different. But it kind of sounds like you are >> claiming that if Jill had not moved back to take care of her parents, >> they wouldn't have given her the house. > >I never claimed that in the slightest. Regardless, you taking care of your >brood is hardly different than Jill taking care of her parents no matter >how you try to paint it. If you really want to get persnickety about it, >while you are obligated to take of your family (because you'd be homeless >if you didn't), she took care of hers voluntarily. Bullshit, you don't have a clue... she sponged off her parents, she didn't work, who do you think paid her living expenses in TN, her parents and her brothers too. They paid her rent, food bill etc, so she could afford to feed her alcoholism. The only reason she didn't like to talk on the phone was because it was too embarrassing when mid slurred sentence she passed out drunk... I happen to know this for a fact... by her 6th-7th time at the ice machine on the fridge (I could hear it) she passed out cold, probably right on the floor... too many times talking with her on the phone she was a goner. Her parents willed her the house to put a roof over her head, her brother's were self sufficient. I've seen many times where the needy child gets the most. When parents get old and infirm they are very easily manipulated. Her parents didn't live very long with her in charge, they would have been better off and lived a lot longer in a nursing home, but then their assets would have been greatly diminished... should be crystal clear the truth of what transpired... the faster they expired the larger the inheritence. |
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On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote:
> > And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also got > their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by their > working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This continuous > rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in > RFC that are part of a single earner household. > My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two kids and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" housing. Looking forward to some of the replies you get. |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:08:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote: > > > > > And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also got > > their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by their > > working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This continuous > > rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in > > RFC that are part of a single earner household. > > > > My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two > kids and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" > housing. Looking forward to some of the replies you get. I hope you realized that jinx is talking about the attitude certain people have about what constitutes "free" and she agrees that stay at home wives are not sponging off their husbands (granted, nothing is absolute). Just reminding you that in this modern day and age, the stay at home "wife" can also be the male half of a mixed sex marriage (let's say it's a given in a same six marriage).  -- sf |
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sf > wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:08:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote: >> >>> >>> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also got >>> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by their >>> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This continuous >>> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in >>> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >>> >> >> My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two >> kids and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" >> housing. Looking forward to some of the replies you get. > > I hope you realized that jinx is talking about the attitude certain > people have about what constitutes "free" and she agrees that stay at > home wives are not sponging off their husbands (granted, nothing is > absolute). Just reminding you that in this modern day and age, the > stay at home "wife" can also be the male half of a mixed sex marriage > (let's say it's a given in a same six marriage). Exactly!! -- jinx the minx |
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"jinx the minx" > wrote in message ... > "Julie Bove" > wrote: >> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote: >>>>>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> Janet > wrote: >>>>>>>> In article >, says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with >>>>>>>>> her). >>>>>>>>> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >>>>>>>>> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> have >>>>>>>> followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and >>>>>>>> not >>>>>> to >>>>>>>> her brothers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Janet UK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) >>>>>>> also >>>>> >>> got >>>>>>> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for >>>>>>> by >>>>> > >>> their >>>>>>> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This > >>>>>>> >>> >>>>> continuous >>>>>>> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many >>>>>>> here >>>>> >>> in >>>>>>> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are referring to me then that is not true at all. Washington >>>>>> state is one in which money is shared by the spouses. When we first >>>>>> >>>> got >>>>>> married, it took every dime that I had in my savings to furnish the >>>>>> >>>> house >>>>>> and buy the appliances. He canceled his bank account and I put him >>>>>> on >>>>>> mine. I am older than him and I had a better credit rating and >>>>>> higher >>>>>> line of credit with my bank. I also worked after I was married. >>>>>> >>>>>> I only had to quit work when pregnant due to threatened miscarriages. >>>>>> >>>> I >>>>>> had been working at a golf course and the job required heavy lifting. >>>>>> >>>> My >>>>>> boss was afraid I would have trouble at work. In the end, I wouldn't >>>>>> have been able to work, not so much from actual health problems but >>>>>> all >>>>>> the Dr. and lab appointments that I had to make during what would >>>>>> have >>>>>> been my working hours. I was at the Dr. at least three times a week >>>>>> because I was considered a high risk pregnancy. >>>>>> >>>>>> After I had the baby, my health began to decline in many ways and I >>>>>> eventually became disabled. I do get disability and the money that I >>>>>> >>>> get >>>>>> now is what pays the bills. All of my automatic bill payments come >>>>>> >>>> from >>>>>> that account. Before we were married, we split the bills up in a >>>>>> different way. I won't bother to get into that here. We did not >>>>>> make >>>>>> the same amount of money. That is very common for married people. >>>>>> One >>>>>> makes more than the other. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also do all of the shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc. here. Okay, >>>>>> Angela does do some of it because there are a few things I simply can >>>>>> >>>> not >>>>>> do but... My husband does none of it. That should count for >>>>>> something. >>>>>> None of that would apply to Jill since she lives alone. And it >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> take away from the fact that she still inherited the house. >>>>> >>>>> 1. I wasn't referring to you, egoist. >>>>> 2. Your tale of disability woe is irrelevant. >>>>> 3. Your "shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc." is no different from >>>>> Jill. >>> > She >>>>> does all that too. With her money. That you do it doesn't count for >>>>> >>> more >>>>> or make you more worthy of your house than Jill of hers. >>>> >>>> It certainly is because she only has to do it for herself. >>>>> >>>>> Come to think of it, you shuffled your dad off to a nursing home in >>>>> his >>>>> final days instead of taking care of him (I don't give a shit what >>>>> your >>>>> excuse for that is), while Jill moved to entirely different state to >>>>> >>> take >>>>> care of her parents, in their home, until the end. Both of them. She >>>>> earned her house just as much as you think you earn yours. >>>> >>>> My dad was never in a nursing home. And I am not going to go into >>>> specifics here but his medical conditions were such that nobody in the >>>> family could properly care for him. He could no longer live in his own >>>> home for reasons I can't get into here. Nor could we move him in here. >>>> He needed special things. >>>> >>>> You also seem to be forgetting that *we* moved back here to help with >>>> *my* parents. Yes, my husband was in the military but... The last >>>> moves >>>> that we made were so that we could take care of parents. We >>>> specifically >>>> got at close to PA as we could to try to help with his mother. Long >>>> story short there, she needed to be in a nursing home. >>>> >>>> Taking care of a parent in their own home is a nice thought. But each >>>> case is different. Not everyone can do that. And I myself am >>>> disabled. >>>> The last straw came for me when I dropped my MIL trying to get her from >>>> point A to point B. I will not give specifics. She did get hurt! I >>>> did >>>> not want to do this but my husband insisted that I do it instead of >>>> him. >>>> Let me just stay in her case, some family members wanted her in the >>>> nursing home and others were fighting us on it. Then a bad situation >>>> happened that I will not get into here. But bottom line, we were >>>> forced >>>> to put her in there. And she is doing MUCH better in the home. She is >>>> back in the city where she was born and raised and she knows people >>>> there. Now she is happy. She was not happy at home. She was >>>> isolated. >>>> >>>> Every situation is different. But it kind of sounds like you are >>>> claiming that if Jill had not moved back to take care of her parents, >>>> they wouldn't have given her the house. >>> >>> I never claimed that in the slightest. Regardless, you taking care of > >>> your >>> brood is hardly different than Jill taking care of her parents no matter >>> how you try to paint it. If you really want to get persnickety about >>> it, >>> while you are obligated to take of your family (because you'd be >>> homeless >>> if you didn't), she took care of hers voluntarily. >> >> Because I would be homeless if I didn't? How is this? And you don't >> know that she did it voluntarily. Unless you know something that I >> don't. I don't know one way or the other. > > I'm fairly certain she wasn't court ordered or had a gun to her head > making > her take care of her parents, so yes, it was voluntary. She could have > put > them in a home but she didn't. You did. Give it up. My MIL *had* to go into a home. I am not going to drag all of her medical problems into this newsgroup. Sometimes there is no other choice. |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 26 May 2015 15:11:42 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Tue, 26 May 2015 20:09:41 +0100, Janet > wrote: >>> >>>>In article >, says... >>>>> >>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> > In article >, says... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> sf wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:34 -0400, Gary > >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > > sf wrote: >>>>> >> > > > >>>>> >> > > > She's right and you're completely wrong, Gary. >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > And just where do you find my error, sf? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > If it was a true free ride, she would never pay for upkeep on her >>>>> >> > home, HOA or property taxes. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> She inherited a lot of money...valuable house all paid for and no >>>>> >> mortgage... and more to upkeep it. >>>>> > >>>>> > You haven't a clue about property ownership or sales. >>>>> > >>>>> > It's a small house in a perpetually self-limiting market, and she >>>>> > has >>>>> > said that far from inheriting enough money to live on, she lost out >>>>> > because her brothers left her to pay all the taxes. >>>>> >>>>> All the taxes? How much could those taxes possibly be? >>>> >>>> Maybe enough she'd got none left for upkeep? >>>> >>>> >>>> Surely they would >>>>> have to be far less than monthly rent or house payments. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> Like I said....she can sell it, >>>>> > >>>>> > If you bothered to pay attention Jill has repeatedly said why she >>>>> > can't >>>>> > afford to sell it ; market reasons entirely credible to anyone >>>>> > experienced in selling and buying property. >>>>> >>>>> OTOH she hasn't tried to sell it. >>>> >>>> IIRC her neighbours have tried to sell theirs, with no success; and >>>>their houses are in better condition than Jills. >>>> >>>> In a recession, pensions and investment incomes are often hit even >>>>harder than wages. It's a retirement complex. No wonder retired people >>>>(living on pensions and investments) don't want to commit themselves to >>>>buying a lifetime of compulsory communal costs they can never control. >>>> >>>> Janet UK >>> >>> what about inheritance taxes? death duties? >>> Janet US >> >>What do those things mean? > > From Wiki: > An inheritance or estate tax is a tax paid by a person who inherits > money or property or a levy on the estate (money and property) of a > person who has died.[1] International tax law distinguishes between an > estate tax and an inheritance tax-an estate tax is assessed on the > assets of the deceased, while an inheritance tax is assessed on the > legacies received by the estate's beneficiaries. > > Note that this distinction is not always observed; for example, the > UK's "inheritance tax" is a tax on the assets of the deceased, and > strictly speaking is therefore an estate tax. For historical reasons, > the term death duty is still used colloquially (though not legally) in > the UK and some Commonwealth countries. > Janet US Okay. But Jill said that she didn't have to pay that so... |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote: > >> >> And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also >> got >> their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by >> their >> working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This >> continuous >> rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in >> RFC that are part of a single earner household. >> > > My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two kids > and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" housing. > Looking forward to some of the replies you get. Seriously! When I lived alone and had a job, I did far less work than I do now. Nobody was home all day to make a mess! |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:08:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote: >> >> > >> > And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also >> > got >> > their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by >> > their >> > working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This >> > continuous >> > rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here >> > in >> > RFC that are part of a single earner household. >> > >> >> My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two >> kids and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" >> housing. Looking forward to some of the replies you get. > > I hope you realized that jinx is talking about the attitude certain > people have about what constitutes "free" and she agrees that stay at > home wives are not sponging off their husbands (granted, nothing is > absolute). Just reminding you that in this modern day and age, the > stay at home "wife" can also be the male half of a mixed sex marriage > (let's say it's a given in a same six marriage). So you speak for her now? |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 21:02:23 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Janet B" > wrote in message snip >>>> >>>> what about inheritance taxes? death duties? >>>> Janet US >>> >>>What do those things mean? >> >> From Wiki: >> An inheritance or estate tax is a tax paid by a person who inherits >> money or property or a levy on the estate (money and property) of a >> person who has died.[1] International tax law distinguishes between an >> estate tax and an inheritance tax-an estate tax is assessed on the >> assets of the deceased, while an inheritance tax is assessed on the >> legacies received by the estate's beneficiaries. >> >> Note that this distinction is not always observed; for example, the >> UK's "inheritance tax" is a tax on the assets of the deceased, and >> strictly speaking is therefore an estate tax. For historical reasons, >> the term death duty is still used colloquially (though not legally) in >> the UK and some Commonwealth countries. >> Janet US > >Okay. But Jill said that she didn't have to pay that so... Clipped from Jill's posting above "I'm pretty sure Julie was thinking property taxes. She really shouldn't think there is no such thing as an interitance tax or that the estate has to be huge before you have to have to pay taxes on it. It depends on how everything is structured. In my case, my brothers walked away with 1/3 of the money and stuck me with a very hefty tax bill. In all fairness, when I called the IRS and explained the situation they did their *damnedest* to try help me find a way around being solely responsible. So yeah, technically and by a narrow definition, I have a "free" house. That means the structure/dwelling is free. Nothing else. Jill" |
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"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 26 May 2015 21:02:23 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Janet B" > wrote in message > > snip >>>>> >>>>> what about inheritance taxes? death duties? >>>>> Janet US >>>> >>>>What do those things mean? >>> >>> From Wiki: >>> An inheritance or estate tax is a tax paid by a person who inherits >>> money or property or a levy on the estate (money and property) of a >>> person who has died.[1] International tax law distinguishes between an >>> estate tax and an inheritance tax-an estate tax is assessed on the >>> assets of the deceased, while an inheritance tax is assessed on the >>> legacies received by the estate's beneficiaries. >>> >>> Note that this distinction is not always observed; for example, the >>> UK's "inheritance tax" is a tax on the assets of the deceased, and >>> strictly speaking is therefore an estate tax. For historical reasons, >>> the term death duty is still used colloquially (though not legally) in >>> the UK and some Commonwealth countries. >>> Janet US >> >>Okay. But Jill said that she didn't have to pay that so... > > Clipped from Jill's posting above > "I'm pretty sure Julie was thinking property taxes. > > She really shouldn't think there is no such thing as an interitance > tax > or that the estate has to be huge before you have to have to pay taxes > on it. It depends on how everything is structured. In my case, my > brothers walked away with 1/3 of the money and stuck me with a very > hefty tax bill. > > In all fairness, when I called the IRS and explained the situation > they > did their *damnedest* to try help me find a way around being solely > responsible. > > So yeah, technically and by a narrow definition, I have a "free" > house. > That means the structure/dwelling is free. Nothing else. > > Jill" Okay. |
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> > "Janet" > wrote in message > ... > > In article >, says... > > > >> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). > >> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for > >> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to > >> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it > > > > Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to have > > followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to > > her brothers. > > That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to pay > for the house itself. No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 care for the elderly. Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't choose. Janet UK |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 20:30:44 -0700, sf > wrote:
>On Tue, 26 May 2015 23:08:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 5/26/2015 3:16 PM, jinx the minx wrote: >> >> > >> > And just how many non-working women here (or men for that matter) also got >> > their houses for "free", since they are technically being paid for by their >> > working spouse? At least one in particular comes to mind. This continuous >> > rail against Jill is ridiculous considering there are likely many here in >> > RFC that are part of a single earner household. >> > >> >> My wife has been a stay-at-home mom for the past 49 years raising two >> kids and taking care of the house. I don't think she got "free" >> housing. Looking forward to some of the replies you get. > >I hope you realized that jinx is talking about the attitude certain >people have about what constitutes "free" and she agrees that stay at >home wives are not sponging off their husbands (granted, nothing is >absolute). Just reminding you that in this modern day and age, the >stay at home "wife" can also be the male half of a mixed sex marriage >(let's say it's a given in a same six marriage). No need to be same [sex] six, there are plenty of house husbands because the wife has the much greater earning capacity... I know several; my daughter earns a good income and has wonderful benefits as an FBI agent, her husband is the soccer mom for two kids and house keeper, although he does dabble in auto mechanics, he has a garage with two hydraulic lifts, in his spare moments he works on race cars only. My sister is a tenured public school teacher in NYC, earns a nice pay check and has great benefits. Her husband has for all intents and purposes never been gainfully employed nor is he employable, he cares for two kids and in spare time helps out in his father's rather small silk screening business (always operated out of his basement), he makes extra pocket money as a few small accounts are his. These days there are many house husbands due to a greatly changed job market, what were some 20 years ago mainly male dominated occupations those are now mostly plied in far away countries, and now with the modern technology more and more women have taken over those nicely paid new hi-tech occupations. In this rural farming community many of the males can no longer make a living with their traditional agri occupations but the women have in great numbers moved into the specialized medical and business fields, nowadays more and more women are bank managers, insurance company supervisors, investment house officers, and so on... today a lot of women are heavy equipment operators. Last week my AC system was due for it's yearly maintanence, for three years now Cindy arrived, she does a much better job than Jim did who is no longer employed there... this year she saved me over $100 by replacing the entire UV lamp feature with a more modern more efficient one rather than replacing two expensive UV lamps on the old system... Jim never would have suggested doing that. Anyone with central AC or a hot air heating system needs a UV lamp installed, gets rid of about 98% of bacteria and mold spores in your house... all the water in my house is treated with UV too. Ultaq Violet trated water and air keeps ones medical bills and suffering with colds, allergies, and other maladies way down... UV treated water is much better than chlorinated, UV adds nothing to water, no side effects from exposure to chlorine. One relatively inexpensive UV water treatment device is a very worthwhile investment, can even install it yourself. There are many brands, this is but one: http://www.amazon.com/Watts-270156-1...words=uv+water I would suggest this type of system for drinking water only: http://www.amazon.com/iSpring-RCC7AK...words=uv+water However I recommend a whole house UV and a separate RO system... The whole house UV keeps all your plumbing germ free, much more healthful bathing/washing, your skin will thank you, not your Dermatologist. |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 15:07:16 +0100, Janet > wrote:
> In article >, says... > > > > "Janet" > wrote in message > > ... > > > In article >, says... > > > > > >> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). > > >> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for > > >> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to > > >> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it > > > > > > Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to have > > > followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to > > > her brothers. > > > > That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to pay > > for the house itself. > > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 > care for the elderly. > > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't > choose. > > Janet UK Well said! -- sf |
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"Janet" > wrote in message ... > In article >, says... >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> ... >> > In article >, says... >> > >> >> I can't believe her stand (and equally idiot SF agreeing with her). >> >> She got a very nice inheritance and she claims she got nothing for >> >> free? What a spoiled princess. They should have willed the house to >> >> one of her brothers instead. They would have appreciated it >> > >> > Stop digging that hole, Gary. You've not been here long enough to have >> > followed the circumstances of why the house was left to Jill and not to >> > her brothers. >> >> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to >> pay >> for the house itself. > > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 > care for the elderly. > > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't > choose. I made that sacrifice for my country when I married my husband who was in the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with *him*! So you can just STFU! |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 15:46:39 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, gravesend10 says... > >> I really don't think a >> cooking group is a place to openly share ones personal minutia >> > As I recall, the first I knew of Jill's situation was when she was >having problems and asked for advice, to persuade her elderly frail >mother to eat or drink when she had no appetite but desperately needed >easily digested nutrition. A fair number of people here offered their >experience. I thought that a highly relevant discussion in a food group >as so many of us either have faced it or will face it one day. > > Janet UK Discussing nutrition is one thing, constantly discussing personal finances and family feuds is another. |
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On 2015-05-27 4:59 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... >> >> I made that sacrifice for my country > > Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin. > > > when I married my husband who was in >> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with >> *him*! > > > You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents > disabilities. > > Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop > wherever you moved to? Bear in mind that her "career" involved working for a few years in retail at "point of service". She was a cashier in a department store. We can give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe it was actually full time. She "retired" almost 20 years ago. It was about a year ago that her husband was supposedly still in the military and supposedly working in another state and only made it home once in a while. So much for moving to another state to be with him. |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:53:46 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, says... >> >> On Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:37 +0100, Janet > wrote: >> >> >In article >, >> says... >> >> >> >> On Wed, 27 May 2015 14:17:26 +0100, Janet > wrote: >> >> >> >> >In article >, >> >> says... >> >> > >> >> >> If you priced it right to allow for new owners bringing it up to date, >> >> >> it would sell >> >> > >> >> > It's a rural retirement complex. That's a limited and limiting market. >> >> > >> >> > In such a location potential buyers are not energetic young DIYers. >> >> >They are not buy-to-let investors. They are older people, protecting >> >> >their remaining assets, looking for a painless move to a key-turn home, >> >> >where they can move right in and set down the ornaments, and never need >> >> >to think about/pay for a new roof/ wiring/ kitchen/bathroom for the rest >> >> >of their lives. >> >> > >> >> >The very last thing they want is the hassle expense and disruption of a >> >> >do-er-upper. >> >> > >> >> > Janet UK >> >> >> >> I am thinking in terms of Jill getting herself out and into a more >> >> young, lively area. She inherited the house, ergo, anything is a >> >> bonus. >> > >> > Even if she could find a buyer, selling buying and moving all cost >> >money, so she'd lose equity and end up buying a cheaper place than she >> >sold. >> > >> > I think it likely someone who flips houses would definitely >> >> be interested. Heavens she is only fifty odd and lives amongst >> >> creaking wrinklies >> > >> > OTOH, the population of affluent creaking wrinklies make it a >> >relatively peaceful safe and secure environment for a single woman >> >(manned gatehouse? someone else cuts the grass?) >> > >> > Janet UK >> >> There are plenty of places like condos where the same would apply. Our >> building has a great mix of young and old, there are even a couple of >> babies around at the moment. > > Dunno about Jill but I'd hate to live with other people through the >wall/floor/ceiling. > > In the middle of the night, if I want to play LOUD music while I vacuum >the floor and dance in heavy boots, I can; and so can the neighbours.. >we'll never disturb each other. > > Janet UK Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. |
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 2:59:42 PM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... > > >> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have to > > >> pay > > >> for the house itself. > > > > > > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and > > > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in > > > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , OR > > > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 > > > care for the elderly. > > > > > > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have > > > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of > > > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't > > > choose. > > > > I made that sacrifice for my country > > Jesus Christ. A sacrificial virgin. LOL...I thought the same thing. =============================== > > > when I married my husband who was in > > the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with > > *him*! > > > > You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents > disabilities. > > Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop > wherever you moved to? > > Janet UK |
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Bruce wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote: > >>Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand >>alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. > >What do you call these then? ><http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg> >(Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p) Different dwellings. |
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On 5/27/2015 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:41:42 -0400, Brooklyn1 > > wrote: > >> Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand >> alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. > > What do you call these then? > <http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg> > > (Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p) > Row houses. very common in the cities |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:31:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 5/27/2015 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:41:42 -0400, Brooklyn1 > > > wrote: > > > >> Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand > >> alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away > >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. > > > > What do you call these then? > > <http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg> > > > > (Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p) > > > > > Row houses. very common in the cities In cities like Brooklyn. -- A kitchen without a cook is just a room. |
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"Janet" > wrote in message ... > In article >, says... >> >> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have >> >> to >> >> pay >> >> for the house itself. >> > >> > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and >> > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in >> > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , >> > OR >> > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 >> > care for the elderly. >> > >> > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd have >> > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of >> > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't >> > choose. >> >> I made that sacrifice for my country > > Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin. > > > when I married my husband who was in >> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with >> *him*! > > > > You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents > disabilities. No but she chose to go there and do what she did. > > Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop > wherever you moved to? And no, it's kind of hard to find another career when you have to move every couple of years. Many places don't want to or won't hire military spouses because they know they won't stick around. And working at the golf course wasn't a career. I didn't want to work there but there aren't a lot of jobs on Cape Cod. At least I didn't have to go far to work. |
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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2015-05-27 4:59 PM, Janet wrote: >> In article >, says... > >>> >>> I made that sacrifice for my country >> >> Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin. >> >> >> when I married my husband who was in >>> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with >>> *him*! >> >> >> You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents >> disabilities. >> >> Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop >> wherever you moved to? > > Bear in mind that her "career" involved working for a few years in retail > at "point of service". She was a cashier in a department store. We can > give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe it was actually full time. > She "retired" almost 20 years ago. It was about a year ago that her > husband was supposedly still in the military and supposedly working in > another state and only made it home once in a while. So much for moving > to another state to be with him. More lies! I worked for K Mart for 17 years and of that time, I was only a cashier briefly. Most of my years were spent doing POS work but I also worked in the office and was the Garden shop manager. That wasn't the only place where I worked either. I did have other jobs. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:31:42 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 5/27/2015 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote: >> > On Wed, 27 May 2015 17:41:42 -0400, Brooklyn1 >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand >> >> alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away >> >>from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. >> > >> > What do you call these then? >> > <http://www.bestaandewoningbouw.nl/wp-content/uploads//2012/06/Afb-Beatrixstr-Dongen.jpg> >> > >> > (Or http://tinyurl.com/q2b8e8p) >> > >> >> >> Row houses. very common in the cities > > In cities like Brooklyn. Not here although in recent years they have been putting a few up. |
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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > > "Janet" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, says... >>> >> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have >>> >> to >>> >> pay >>> >> for the house itself. >>> > >>> > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and >>> > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in >>> > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , >>> > OR >>> > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 >>> > care for the elderly. >>> > >>> > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd >>> > have >>> > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of >>> > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't >>> > choose. >>> >>> I made that sacrifice for my country >> >> Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin. >> >> >> when I married my husband who was in >>> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state with >>> *him*! >> >> >> >> You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents >> disabilities. > > No but she chose to go there and do what she did. >> >> Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop >> wherever you moved to? > > And no, it's kind of hard to find another career when you have to move > every couple of years. Many places don't want to or won't hire military > spouses because they know they won't stick around. And working at the > golf course wasn't a career. I didn't want to work there but there aren't > a lot of jobs on Cape Cod. At least I didn't have to go far to work. At least you did have a good job. Don't listen to fantasists. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... > > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Janet" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, says... >>>> >> That doesn't really matter. But bottom line is that she didn't have >>>> >> to >>>> >> pay >>>> >> for the house itself. >>>> > >>>> > No? All it cost her was leaving her independence, her career and >>>> > earned income,her chosen lifestyle, to care for her sick parents in >>>> > their own home. I'm damn sure Jill never costed that in money terms , >>>> > OR >>>> > the personal physical and emotional price of providing years of 24/7 >>>> > care for the elderly. >>>> > >>>> > Maybe if you'd ever made such a sacrifice for your parents you'd >>>> > have >>>> > more clue about real values; or the unseen and never complained of >>>> > "price" that Jill paid to end up in a house and location she didn't >>>> > choose. >>>> >>>> I made that sacrifice for my country >>> >>> Jesus christ. A sacrificial virgin. >>> >>> >>> when I married my husband who was in >>>> the military! I had to give up my career and move to another state >>>> with >>>> *him*! >>> >>> >>> >>> You chose to marry him; Jill didn't choose her parents >>> disabilities. >> >> No but she chose to go there and do what she did. >>> >>> Couldn't you find another "career" (snork) in some golf club or shop >>> wherever you moved to? >> >> And no, it's kind of hard to find another career when you have to move >> every couple of years. Many places don't want to or won't hire military >> spouses because they know they won't stick around. And working at the >> golf course wasn't a career. I didn't want to work there but there >> aren't a lot of jobs on Cape Cod. At least I didn't have to go far to >> work. > > At least you did have a good job. Don't listen to fantasists. The golf course job wasn't what I would call good in terms of benefitting me. It was a government job and yet they couldn't even pay us minimum wage which in MA was something like $5 an hour. I wasn't even getting half of the hourly wage that I had gotten before. However, I suppose I was a benefit to some of the golfers. Most of them were elderly. Many had lost a spouse and were just plain lonely. They would come into the pro shop and chat with me. My coworkers all told me not to bother chatting with them and that I should just tell them to leave. I never did that. And I know that they did appreciate it because they told me so. Told me that some of the others who worked there were rude to them. I could not believe all the hoops you had to jump through on Cape Cod to get a job. I filled out applications that were illegal. They wanted to know your ethnicity, religion and even any clubs that you might belong to. I was told that if I would just go by my maiden name (which was presumed to be Scottish but I was told that it was really English), I would get a job in no time flat. But because I chose the married name which was Italian, I would not be a hired. At one point they opened an Italian food store and it was hiring but I was told that they could not hire me because I wasn't really Italian! An office supply store would only hire me if I agreed to deliver supplies after my shift was over, on my own time for no pay. And to do so I would have to have a separate insurance policy on my car which would be paid for by me! Uh... No. The dry cleaner could only promise me 10 hours per week but they expected me to be up and dressed each morning and ready to go to work anywhere on the Cape by 7:00 a.m. in case they might need me at one of their other establishment due to illness or some such thing. They expected me to stay home all day near the phone in case they needed me. No cell phones in those days. People still had beepers. I wasn't even allowed to go to the grocery store until after 6:00 p.m. I was a smoker back then and I wasn't allowed to smoke during the week lest someone smell the smoke on me. Uh, no, again. Funny thing there was that we lived on the Cape for 5 years and that dry cleaner lady never did find an employee. She told me that she herself was a nurse but couldn't find a nursing job there so decided to do something else. Most of the wives that I knew there were either severely underemployed like me or had to leave the Cape or go further South for employment. Hyannis had a mall and a lot more stores and restaurants there but... Computers were still a new thing on the Cape and there were no POS jobs at any of those places. There was no way I was going to fight the traffic to take some part time job in a restaurant or store and still be underemployed so I chose the job closer to home. Some people I know worked only for tips. That's right! No pay. I don't know how they manage to pull that one off. And it's not just on the Cape. It's at all of the military commissaries. When you buy groceries at one of them, you use an ordinary shopping cart much like any other store would have. But as your groceries are rung up, a bagger bags them for you and puts them in/on a tall, two level cart. It has sort of hook things on it so the bags can hang on the outside as well. When we would shop there it was not uncommon for us to have two full carts. One of the bagger's carts would hold two shopping carts full of stuff. You are not allowed to take your own groceries out, unless of course you have just enough to hold in your hands. You can not use their cart to go to your vehicle. Which makes no sense to me. At the one in Marysville, the department type store is next door and you can take those carts out! Anyway... You are expected to tip the bagger. And that is the only money they make. A girl at that commissary told Angela that she should apply because she could make a lot of money but that those jobs were few and far between so it might take a long time to get hired but... The commute to and from there is horrible so it wouldn't be worth it just to work a few hours a day. |
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In article >, gravesend10
@verizon.net says... Lucretia wrote > >> There are plenty of places like condos where the same would apply. Our > >> building has a great mix of young and old, there are even a couple of > >> babies around at the moment. > > > > Dunno about Jill but I'd hate to live with other people through the > >wall/floor/ceiling. > > > > In the middle of the night, if I want to play LOUD music while I vacuum > >the floor and dance in heavy boots, I can; and so can the neighbours.. > >we'll never disturb each other. > > > > Janet UK > > Anyone paying a modicum of attention would know that house is a stand > alone residence, shares no common walls and is plenty far enough away > from other dwellings that no neighbors would hear loud sex. If you were paying a modicum of attention you'd know we moved on from Jills house; Lucretia and I are discussing condos. Try to keep up. Janet |
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