On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
>stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
>Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!


They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?

William

On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:

> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.

nb

On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>
> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>
> nb
>
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415

California's 3-year-old drought has thrust seawater desalination into
the spotlight as San Diego County, Santa Barbara and other cities push
ahead with treatment plants that will soon turn the Pacific Ocean into a
source of drinking water.

Desalination has emerged as a newly promising technology in California
in the face of a record dry spell that has forced tough new conservation
measures, depleted reservoirs and raised the costs of importing fresh
water from elsewhere.

But experts warn that converting seawater to drinking supplies remains
an expensive, energy-intensive enterprise that has had mixed success in
places like Australia and Florida.

The biggest ocean desalination plant in the Western Hemisphere, a $1
billion project under construction since 2012 on a coastal lagoon in the
California city of Carlsbad, is nearly completed and due to open in
November, delivering up to 50 million gallons of water a day to San
Diego County.

That is enough to supply roughly 112,000 households, or about 10 percent
of the county's drinking water needs, according to Poseidon Resources,
the Connecticut-based company behind the facility.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
> >
> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> >
> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
> >
> > nb
> >
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415

Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?

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sf

On 5/24/2015 3:24 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>
>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>
>>> nb
>>>
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>
> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>

That's not a bad move, the cost could be more easily distributed to the
end users.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>> >
>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> >
>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>> >
>> > nb
>> >
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>
> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?

It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
be economically viable/



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On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> >
>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>> >
>>> > nb
>>> >
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>be economically viable/
>
treated graywater or black water could be used for irrigation. It all
comes with a cost.
Janet US

On 5/24/2015 8:07 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>
>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
> It is extremely expensive water a

**** off and STFU!

I want your damned useless head on a pike!

"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2015 8:07 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>> California
>>>>>
>>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>> It is extremely expensive water a
>
> **** off and STFU!
>
> I want your damned useless head on a pike!

Oh dear I am interested in the discussion ...



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wrote:

> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

There's your "sea salt"

On 5/25/2015 7:14 AM, wrote:

>>>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>> It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>> be economically viable/
>>
>
> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>

Build a potato ship factory next door.

The salt could be used for water softeners or winter road treatment.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>> >> California
>>>> >
>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>> >
>>>> > nb
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale
>>and
>>be economically viable/
>>
>
> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

It has commercial applications.



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On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>>
>>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>>
>>> It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale
>>> and
>>> be economically viable/
>>>
>>
>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>
> It has commercial applications.
>

We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
cuz that's what it is.

On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:14:53 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> >
>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>> >
>>>> > nb
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>>be economically viable/
>>
>
>Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

It goes back into the ocean. The whole thing is an interesting
process.
Janet US

On Mon, 25 May 2015 10:42:18 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:14:53 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"sf" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > nb
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>>
>>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>>
>>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>>>be economically viable/
>>>
>>
>>Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>
>It goes back into the ocean. The whole thing is an interesting
>process.
>Janet US

Actually the same quantity of salt (NACL) and water (H2O) has been on
this planet since its creation... it never changes.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:24:29 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>> >
>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> >
>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>> >
>> > nb
>> >
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>
>Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?

did anybody read the link?

William

On 5/25/2015 12:16 PM, William wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:24:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>
>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
> did anybody read the link?
>
> William
>

Yes. Bottom line, it is expensive and not a quick solution. If built,
people will soon bitch about the cost on the water bill for both
construction and operation. Probably some is needed, at least for
emergency insurance, but is is not the 100% solution.

"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:24:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>> >> California
>>> >
>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>> >
>>> > nb
>>> >
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>>Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
> did anybody read the link?

Yes.

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"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:24:29 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>> >> California
>>> >
>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>> >
>>> > nb
>>> >
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>>Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
> did anybody read the link?


You can get a lot of information from a title.



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"William" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of
>>stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>>Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
>
> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>
> William

You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can imagine
it, they are asking people to take military type showers already, no more
than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse off.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> lot of
>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>
>> William
>
> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
> off.
>
> Cheri
>
>


Sensible request too.

"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>> lot of
>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>> people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>>
>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri

Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the short
showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small containers for
washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down with the washing
machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the hardest things for me, is
the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I don't like that at all.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 12:18 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>
> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
> don't like that at all.
>
> Cheri

We face similar, though not as dire consequences here...so far...

I think a great deal of consumptive water could be saved if homes ran a
gray water system, similar to what RVs do.

One good 500 gallon cistern and some plumbing could make a real dent in
usage.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>
> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the hardest
> things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I don't like
> that at all.

I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>>
>>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>>>> CA
>>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>>>> rinse
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>
>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
>> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
>> don't like that at all.
>
> I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?

Bleach plus urine = mustard gas.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>> California
>>>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William
>>>>>
>>>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>>>>> CA
>>>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>>>>> rinse
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
>>> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
>>> don't like that at all.
>>
>> I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?
>
> Bleach plus urine = mustard gas.

lol not standard mustard gas I think)

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>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>> with the washing machine,

Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine,
>
> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

Not the way I wash them in two small square containers, and I don't have a
lot of dishes.

Cheri

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine,
>
> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and water
was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because she had
hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden

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On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> lot of
>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>
>> William
>
> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
> off.
>
> Cheri
>
>
5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
Save water - Shower with a friend!
Graham
--

On 5/24/2015 12:23 PM, graham wrote:
> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>> lot of
>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>> people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>>
>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> Save water - Shower with a friend!
> Graham

Amusing, but unlikely to save much, perhaps even use more.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>> lot of
>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>> people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>>
>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> Save water - Shower with a friend!

I hope you are not being saucy, Graham? ;-)

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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>> lot of
>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>> people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>>
>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> Save water - Shower with a friend!
> Graham

I assume you can shave your legs and armpits in that time as well? I can do
all that in five. LOL

Cheri

On 24/05/2015 1:15 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
>> Save water - Shower with a friend!
>> Graham
>
> I assume you can shave your legs and armpits in that time as well? I can
> do all that in five. LOL
>
> Cheri
You don't need to shave!
Graham

--

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >
> > "William" > wrote in message
> > news
> >> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
> >>> lot of
> >>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>>
> >>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >>
> >>
> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> >> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
> >> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
> >> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
> >>
> >> William
> >
> > You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
> > supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> > imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> > already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
> > off.
> >
> > Cheri
> >
> >
> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> Save water - Shower with a friend!
> Graham
> --

I tried that shower with a friend thing but my GF kept getting all the water
and I was too distracted to worry about it.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> >
>> > "William" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>> >>> lot of
>> >>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> >>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>> >>> people
>> >>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> >> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>> >> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>> >> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>> >>
>> >> William
>> >
>> > You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>> > CA
>> > supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> > imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> > already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>> > rinse
>> > off.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>> >
>> >
>> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
>> Save water - Shower with a friend!
>> Graham
>> --
>
> I tried that shower with a friend thing but my GF kept getting all the
> water
> and I was too distracted to worry about it.

lol

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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 4:50:31 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
> >> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "William" > wrote in message
> >> > news > >> >> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
> >> >>> lot of
> >> >>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >> >>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
> >> >>> people
> >> >>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> >> >> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
> >> >> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
> >> >> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
> >> >>
> >> >> William
> >> >
> >> > You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
> >> > CA
> >> > supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> >> > imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> >> > already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
> >> > rinse
> >> > off.
> >> >
> >> > Cheri
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> >> Save water - Shower with a friend!
> >> Graham
> >> --
> >
> > I tried that shower with a friend thing but my GF kept getting all the
> > water
> > and I was too distracted to worry about it.
>
> lol
>
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Thanks for contributing to the conversation again ****.

On 5/24/2015 3:55 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 4:50:31 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>>>> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William
>>>>>
>>>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>>>>> CA
>>>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>>>>> rinse
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
>>>> Save water - Shower with a friend!
>>>> Graham
>>>> --
>>>
>>> I tried that shower with a friend thing but my GF kept getting all the
>>> water
>>> and I was too distracted to worry about it.
>>
>> lol
>>
>> --
>> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/
>
> Thanks for contributing to the conversation again ****.
>

Isn't it about time you performed that Bic pen lobotomy on yourself?

On 5/24/2015 2:44 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 12:23:25 PM UTC-6, graham wrote:
>> On 24/05/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
>> Save water - Shower with a friend!
>> Graham
>> --
>
> I tried that shower with a friend thing but my GF kept getting all the water
> and I was too distracted to worry about it.
>

Wait, you showered with a weasel?

;-)

On 2015-05-24 2:23 PM, graham wrote:

>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> 5 minutes is generous. I can shower in 3!
> Save water - Shower with a friend!

Even three is luxurious. I can do it in less than a minute. It helps to
have a hand held shower so you don't get a blast of cold water. I get
into the tub and turn the water on hot and use the cold water to wet the
soap and get lather up as the water is warming up. By the time I have
hot water I am ready to rinse.