On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> lot of
>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>
>> William
>
> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
> off.
>
> Cheri
>
>


Sensible request too.

"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
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> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>> lot of
>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>> people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>>
>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>> off.
>>
>> Cheri

Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the short
showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small containers for
washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down with the washing
machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the hardest things for me, is
the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I don't like that at all.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 12:18 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>
> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
> don't like that at all.
>
> Cheri

We face similar, though not as dire consequences here...so far...

I think a great deal of consumptive water could be saved if homes ran a
gray water system, similar to what RVs do.

One good 500 gallon cistern and some plumbing could make a real dent in
usage.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
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>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
>>> off.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>
> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the hardest
> things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I don't like
> that at all.

I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
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>>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>>
>>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>>>> CA
>>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>>>> rinse
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>
>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
>> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
>> don't like that at all.
>
> I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?

Bleach plus urine = mustard gas.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
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>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>>> news >>>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>> California
>>>>>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>>>>>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>>>>>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William
>>>>>
>>>>> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since
>>>>> CA
>>>>> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
>>>>> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
>>>>> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up,
>>>>> rinse
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine, lawn going fairly brown, etc. One of the
>>> hardest things for me, is the mellow yellow with the toilet water. I
>>> don't like that at all.
>>
>> I feel for you Does bleach not brighten it up at all?
>
> Bleach plus urine = mustard gas.

lol not standard mustard gas I think)

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>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>> with the washing machine,

Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>
>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine,
>
> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

Not the way I wash them in two small square containers, and I don't have a
lot of dishes.

Cheri

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 11:56:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
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> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.
>
I've read that statement on sites in the past. Can I assume a
dishwasher uses less water than sink washing because the
belief is when hand washing the water is left running
continually?
>
>
> Not the way I wash them in two small square containers, and I don't have a
> lot of dishes.
>
> Cheri
>
>
When I wash dishes here the stopper is put in both kitchen sinks and
one is used for washing while the other sink is used for rinsing.

On 5/25/2015 3:51 AM, wrote:
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 11:56:39 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.
>>
> I've read that statement on sites in the past. Can I assume a
> dishwasher uses less water than sink washing because the
> belief is when hand washing the water is left running
> continually?
>>
>>
>> Not the way I wash them in two small square containers, and I don't have a
>> lot of dishes.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>>
> When I wash dishes here the stopper is put in both kitchen sinks and
> one is used for washing while the other sink is used for rinsing.
>

Key words: Full load
Those two small containers probably use half what the machine uses.
That saves when doing just a few dishes, but if you can wait and fill
the machine, you could be ahead.

Many studies have been done. These took a sensible approach.
http://www.treehugger.com/kitchen-de...s-greener.html

http://www.nrdc.org/living/stuff/gre...her-debate.asp

On Mon, 25 May 2015 00:51:14 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>When I wash dishes here the stopper is put in both kitchen sinks and
>one is used for washing while the other sink is used for rinsing.


your rinse technique is not sanitary as there are numerous microbes
living in the sink basin. Your county health department would declare
your washed dishes unsanitary. They must be sterilized with fresh tap
water heated to at least 140 degrees (F).

William

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 3:37:38 AM UTC-5, The Other Guy wrote:
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> On Mon, 25 May 2015 00:51:14 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >When I wash dishes here the stopper is put in both kitchen sinks and
> >one is used for washing while the other sink is used for rinsing.
>
> I used to do that, then I got a sink with a sprayer attachment
> on the faucet, and using that saves a BUNCH of water when rinsing.
>
>
My sink has a sprayer, too, and I use it after scrubbing the
sink or to rinse a large and cumbersome pot.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>
>
>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>> with the washing machine,
>
> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.

I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and water
was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because she had
hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>>> with the washing machine,
>>
>> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.
>
> I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and
> water was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because she
> had hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden

Some people do that here.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>>>> with the washing machine,
>>>
>>> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.
>>
>> I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and
>> water was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because she
>> had hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden
>
> Some people do that here.

It is a very good idea


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Julie Bove wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yes, I have completely given up my deep baths, and have been doing the
>>>>> short showers. Also saving the water for potted plants, using small
>>>>> containers for washing dishes, instead of dishwasher, and cutting down
>>>>> with the washing machine,
>>>
>>> Fully loaded, a dishwasher uses less water than other methods.
>>
>> I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and
>> water was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because she
>> had hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden
>
>Some people do that here.

Bath water/laundry water (gray water) is fine for gardening... where
do people think plants grow... in DIRT! Actually water used for
cleaning dirty clothes/dishes/bodies makes good fertilzer. Lots of
people plant their vegetable gardens over their sceptic leaching
field, hurts nothing... all kinds of critters poop and pee in my
vegetable garden, same as they do on all farm land. Plants are very
selective in which nutrients they absorb... it's only particular man
made chemicals that cause a negative affect, like pesticides,
herbicides, and manufacturing waste... when a possum, raccoon, rodent,
bird, even a cat poops in my garden I consider it a gift. I apply no
chemicals but my lawn is lusher, greener, and healthier than anything
Scotts Turf Builder/Weed & Feed can do... you can eat a salad of my
lawn greens and never become ill from it... the same critters that
fertilize my lawn are the ones that constantly eat my lawn. Next time
you drink milk remember that those cows eat the same greens they poop
and pee on. Freshly mowed two days ago, no chemicals but lots of
critter poops, even hummingbird poops:
http://i59.tinypic.com/30xk520.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/5vhpy.jpg
See those two crab apple trees, both bought together and planted
together ten years ago, both same size seedlings in pots... guess
which one is planted nearer the discharge pipe of my sceptic field:
http://i59.tinypic.com/33e0okx.jpg

"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 May 2015 01:59:33 -0700, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>>> I remember many years ago in England when we had a very hot summer and
>>> water was rationed, a friend was shown in the local newspaper because
>>> she
>>> had hooked up a pipe to channel her bath water down into her garden
>>
>>Some people do that here.
>
> That's known as grey water, and is illegal is some places,
> yet required in other places.

Why is it illegal?

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