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>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
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>>>
>>>
>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> > > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>>> > > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were
>>> > > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They
>>> > > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools
>>> > > were being demonised.
>>> > >
>>> > > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
>>> > megadrought in the Western US.
>>> >
>>> > http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>>> > ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>>> >
>>> > 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>> >
>>> > 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>> >
>>> > 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>> >
>>> > 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>> >
>>> > 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>> >
>>> > And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.
>>>
>>> Oh dear
>>
>> Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>> example. It could be people in *California* (southern part) might get
>> more food from south of them but the only real effect will be the big
>> wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of drought,
>> producing simply less grapes.
>>
>> California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is becsause they
>> export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find on your shelves.
>> It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the USA. Not a single
>> product grown there in any quantity hits our top 10 food exports for
>> example.
>>
>> I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go hungry
>> over California's drought.
>
> It sounds pretty serious to me

It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose ox is
getting gored in these cases.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 3:17 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> > > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>>>> > > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were
>>>> > > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They
>>>> > > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools
>>>> > > were being demonised.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
>>>> > megadrought in the Western US.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>>>> > ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>>> >
>>>> > 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>>> >
>>>> > 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>>> >
>>>> > 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>>> >
>>>> > And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear
>>>
>>> Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>>> example. It could be people in *California* (southern part) might get
>>> more food from south of them but the only real effect will be the big
>>> wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of drought,
>>> producing simply less grapes.
>>>
>>> California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is becsause they
>>> export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find on your shelves.
>>> It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the USA. Not a single
>>> product grown there in any quantity hits our top 10 food exports for
>>> example.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go hungry
>>> over California's drought.
>>
>> It sounds pretty serious to me
>
> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose ox
> is getting gored in these cases.
>
> Cheri

I'm pretty sure I'll pay a higher price for things that aren't grown
here in SC, like avocados and artichokes.

Jill

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>> > > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>>>> > > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were
>>>> > > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They
>>>> > > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools
>>>> > > were being demonised.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
>>>> > megadrought in the Western US.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>>>> > ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>>> >
>>>> > 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>>> >
>>>> > 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>>> >
>>>> > 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>>> >
>>>> > And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear
>>>
>>> Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>>> example. It could be people in *California* (southern part) might get
>>> more food from south of them but the only real effect will be the big
>>> wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of drought,
>>> producing simply less grapes.
>>>
>>> California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is becsause they
>>> export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find on your shelves.
>>> It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the USA. Not a single
>>> product grown there in any quantity hits our top 10 food exports for
>>> example.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go hungry
>>> over California's drought.
>>
>> It sounds pretty serious to me
>
> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose ox
> is getting gored in these cases.

Quite and it is ill-advised to belittle it.

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On 5/24/2015 3:43 PM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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>>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> > On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> > > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>>>>> > > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were
>>>>> > > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They
>>>>> > > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools
>>>>> > > were being demonised.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
>>>>> > megadrought in the Western US.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>>>>> > ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear
>>>>
>>>> Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>>>> example. It could be people in *California* (southern part) might get
>>>> more food from south of them but the only real effect will be the big
>>>> wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of drought,
>>>> producing simply less grapes.
>>>>
>>>> California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is becsause they
>>>> export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find on your shelves.
>>>> It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the USA. Not a single
>>>> product grown there in any quantity hits our top 10 food exports for
>>>> example.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go hungry
>>>> over California's drought.
>>>
>>> It sounds pretty serious to me
>>
>> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose
>> ox is getting gored in these cases.
>
> Quite and it is ill-advised to belittle it.
>
I haven't seen anyone belittling the drought. Seems to me they had
similar conditions last year. That makes it even more serious now, for
farmers in particular and people who depend on California for food.

Jill

On Sun, 24 May 2015 15:53:12 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

snip
>>
>I haven't seen anyone belittling the drought. Seems to me they had
>similar conditions last year. That makes it even more serious now, for
>farmers in particular and people who depend on California for food.
>
>Jill
Then there are all the laborers out of farming work, trucking
business no longer carrying produce (ditto airlines), trucker's
families without income, companies that depend on various fruits and
vegetables for drying, canning, freezing, and the list goes on. As
was said elsewhere, there is no free lunch. To say it only affects
California is shallow thinking.
Janet US

Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >>>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> >>>> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
> >>>> > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We
> were >>>> > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them.
> They >>>> > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming
> pools >>>> > were being demonised.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >>>> >
> > > > >
> >>>> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the
> predicted >>>> megadrought in the Western US.
> > > > >
> >>>>
> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
> >>>> ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
> > > > >
> >>>> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
> > > > >
> >>>> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
> > > > >
> >>>> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
> > > > >
> >>>> 4. FIX THE PIPES
> > > > >
> >>>> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >>>> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
> > > > >
> >>>> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from
> Mexico.
> > > >
> > > > Oh dear
> > >
> > > Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
> > > example. It could be people in California (southern part) might
> > > get more food from south of them but the only real effect will be
> > > the big wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of
> > > drought, producing simply less grapes.
> > >
> > > California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is
> > > becsause they export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find
> > > on your shelves. It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the
> > > USA. Not a single product grown there in any quantity hits our
> > > top 10 food exports for example.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go
> > > hungry over California's drought.
> >
> > It sounds pretty serious to me
>
> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose
> ox is getting gored in these cases.
>
> Cheri

I didnt ay it isnt serious for you folks. I said it is bogus that it
will cause wild famine in the USA. The product from California are
largly luxury items or produced in near the same amounts elsewhere in
the USA.

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On 5/24/2015 4:23 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
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>>>> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>>>>>>> had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We
>> were >>>> > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them.
>> They >>>> > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming
>> pools >>>> > were being demonised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the
>> predicted >>>> megadrought in the Western US.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>>>>>> ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from
>> Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear
>>>>
>>>> Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>>>> example. It could be people in California (southern part) might
>>>> get more food from south of them but the only real effect will be
>>>> the big wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of
>>>> drought, producing simply less grapes.
>>>>
>>>> California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is
>>>> becsause they export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find
>>>> on your shelves. It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the
>>>> USA. Not a single product grown there in any quantity hits our
>>>> top 10 food exports for example.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go
>>>> hungry over California's drought.
>>>
>>> It sounds pretty serious to me
>>
>> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose
>> ox is getting gored in these cases.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I didnt ay it isnt serious for you folks. I said it is bogus that it
> will cause wild famine in the USA.

OK, so who said "famine"?

Huh?

> The product from California are
> largly luxury items or produced in near the same amounts elsewhere in
> the USA.

Dead wrong, as posted and proved already.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> Cheri wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >
>> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > > Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >>>"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
>> > > > ...
>> >>>> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>>> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have
>> >>>> > had a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We
>> were >>>> > shown the huge reservoirs with very little water in them.
>> They >>>> > were showing how people with lush grass and full swimming
>> pools >>>> > were being demonised.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>> >>>> >
>> > > > >
>> >>>> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the
>> predicted >>>> megadrought in the Western US.
>> > > > >
>> >>>>
>> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...s/5-things-cal
>> >>>> ifornia-can-do-to-survive-a-megadrought
>> > > > >
>> >>>> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>> > > > >
>> >>>> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>> > > > >
>> >>>> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>> > > > >
>> >>>> 4. FIX THE PIPES
>> > > > >
>> >>>> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> >>>> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>> > > > >
>> >>>> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from
>> Mexico.
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh dear
>> > >
>> > > Ophelia, relax. He's massively overestimated the food issues for
>> > > example. It could be people in California (southern part) might
>> > > get more food from south of them but the only real effect will be
>> > > the big wine industry, yet most grapes are pretty tolerant of
>> > > drought, producing simply less grapes.
>> > >
>> > > California does have the biggest ticket sales but that is
>> > > becsause they export most of it as in fancy stuff you might find
>> > > on your shelves. It's not an never has been a breadbasket of the
>> > > USA. Not a single product grown there in any quantity hits our
>> > > top 10 food exports for example.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not saying it isnt serious, but neither they nor we will go
>> > > hungry over California's drought.
>> >
>> > It sounds pretty serious to me
>>
>> It is, but not to people who don't live here. It all depends on whose
>> ox is getting gored in these cases.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I didnt ay it isnt serious for you folks. I said it is bogus that it
> will cause wild famine in the USA. The product from California are
> largly luxury items or produced in near the same amounts elsewhere in
> the USA.
>

That's utter nonsense. California grows more carrots than anyplace in the
country and that goes for a lot of vegetables and fruits like peaches,
pears, apricots, grapes, oranges, lemons, limes, melons of all kinds,
squashes, tomatoes, beets and a zillion other foods that one can hardly call
"luxury."

Why not just stop typing while you're ahead, you ignorant dolt? Read up
knucklehead:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...t_without.html

"California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables,
and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of
kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89
percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots
(and the list goes on ...Jul 10, 2013"



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"The Other Guy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:23:30 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>I didnt ay it isnt serious for you folks. I said it is bogus that it
>>will cause wild famine in the USA. The product from California are
>>largly luxury items or produced in near the same amounts elsewhere in
>>the USA.
>
> That is SIMPLY NOT TRUE!!

And I don't think anyone said it would cause massive famine, but...it can be
serious price wise, and product wise.

Cheri