On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:22:46 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> Because, much like the pecan, they're water hogs - 8 gallons per nut.

Almonds only need a little more than a gallon per nut and there are
worse water hogs, like broccoli.
http://www.businessinsider.com/amoun...-tomato-2015-4

Some farmers are turning to "dry farming" with good results.
http://agwaterstewards.org/index.php...s/dry_farming/

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sf

On 5/24/2015 3:43 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:22:46 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> Because, much like the pecan, they're water hogs - 8 gallons per nut.
>
> Almonds only need a little more than a gallon per nut and there are
> worse water hogs, like broccoli.
> http://www.businessinsider.com/amoun...-tomato-2015-4
>
> Some farmers are turning to "dry farming" with good results.
> http://agwaterstewards.org/index.php...s/dry_farming/
>

You are right, and my data was bad.

http://www.latimes.com/local/abcaria...17-column.html

Maybe it was last August, when the Atlantic posted "The Dark Side of
Almond Use," implicating the tasty little nut in every environmental
crisis from bee colony collapse disorder to the struggles of the state's
Chinook salmon population.

Or maybe it was in February, when a headline in Mother Jones blared, "It
takes how much water to grow an almond?!" (Profoundly misleading answer:
1.1 gallons per nut.)




On the dry farming, one hybrid idea - couple it with focused drip
irrigation.

That feeds individually, rather than flood or channel irrigation.

We've sen that deployed at many of the pecan orchards.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:35:36 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> Or maybe it was in February, when a headline in Mother Jones blared, "It
> takes how much water to grow an almond?!" (Profoundly misleading answer:
> 1.1 gallons per nut.)

I think that was also when they (not necessarily Mother Jones) told us
that the orchards are irrigated by flooding. I don't know how much
truth there is to that though.

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sf

On 5/25/2015 2:27 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:35:36 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> Or maybe it was in February, when a headline in Mother Jones blared, "It
>> takes how much water to grow an almond?!" (Profoundly misleading answer:
>> 1.1 gallons per nut.)
>
> I think that was also when they (not necessarily Mother Jones) told us
> that the orchards are irrigated by flooding. I don't know how much
> truth there is to that though.
>

If they do, what happens to all the water? Some would go into the
ground where it is purified and finds itself in a well as drinking water.

Sometimes we forget, the same water had been around forever. You may be
drinking the same water that Jesus drank so then you can skip going to
church.

There is also enough water to take care of all of our needs, but it is
not in the places where we want it. Would be nice to move some of that
Texas flood water to CA.

On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:10:30 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> There is also enough water to take care of all of our needs, but it is
> not in the places where we want it. Would be nice to move some of that
> Texas flood water to CA.

Yup.

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sf

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/25/2015 2:27 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:35:36 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Or maybe it was in February, when a headline in Mother Jones blared, "It
>>> takes how much water to grow an almond?!" (Profoundly misleading answer:
>>> 1.1 gallons per nut.)
>>
>> I think that was also when they (not necessarily Mother Jones) told us
>> that the orchards are irrigated by flooding. I don't know how much
>> truth there is to that though.
>>
>
> If they do, what happens to all the water? Some would go into the ground
> where it is purified and finds itself in a well as drinking water.


yep, about 40% or more in the San Joaquin Valley.

On 2015-05-25, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 5/25/2015 2:27 PM, sf wrote:


>> that the orchards are irrigated by flooding. I don't know how much
>> truth there is to that though.

True enough in the past. When I was growing up in Stanislaus County,
all orchards were flooded. Now, water conservation has changed
this.

> If they do, what happens to all the water?

One of the biggest news stories of the 80s was the Kesterson
Reservoir, selenium toxicity debacle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesterson_Reservoir

Much of the flooding irrigation technique has been replaced by drip
watering or huge motorized sprinkler systems.

> There is also enough water to take care of all of our needs.......

Highly debatable. We have a fixed amt of fresh water. As the
population continues to grow, we will run out of enough fresh water to
satisfy this growth, regardless of distribution.

nb

On 5/26/2015 4:08 AM, notbob wrote:

>
>> There is also enough water to take care of all of our needs.......
>
> Highly debatable. We have a fixed amt of fresh water. As the
> population continues to grow, we will run out of enough fresh water to
> satisfy this growth, regardless of distribution.
>
> nb
>

Then it becomes a form of population control.

It would take a hell of an increase though. Water is recirculated as
long as we continue to urinate and sweat.

The Great Famine of 1315 though, was caused by too much rain, not a
shortage. .