"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>> >
>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> >
>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>> >
>> > nb
>> >
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>
> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?

It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
be economically viable/



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On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
>"sf" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>> >
>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>> >
>>> > nb
>>> >
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>be economically viable/
>
treated graywater or black water could be used for irrigation. It all
comes with a cost.
Janet US

On 5/24/2015 8:07 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>
>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>
>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>
> It is extremely expensive water a

**** off and STFU!

I want your damned useless head on a pike!

"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2015 8:07 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>> California
>>>>>
>>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>> It is extremely expensive water a
>
> **** off and STFU!
>
> I want your damned useless head on a pike!

Oh dear I am interested in the discussion ...



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wrote:

> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

There's your "sea salt"

On 5/25/2015 7:14 AM, wrote:

>>>>>
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>> It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>> be economically viable/
>>
>
> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>

Build a potato ship factory next door.

The salt could be used for water softeners or winter road treatment.

> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>> >> California
>>>> >
>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>> >
>>>> > nb
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale
>>and
>>be economically viable/
>>
>
> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

It has commercial applications.



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On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the
>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>>
>>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>>
>>> It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale
>>> and
>>> be economically viable/
>>>
>>
>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>
> It has commercial applications.
>

We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
cuz that's what it is.

On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:15:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>>
>> It has commercial applications.
>>
>
>We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
> cuz that's what it is.

From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.

On 2015-05-25 6:46 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:15:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>>>
>>> It has commercial applications.
>>>
>>
>> We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
>> cuz that's what it is.
>
> From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.
>

It is, but it is better than dealing with the damage from cars sliding
into each other on icy roads.

On Mon, 25 May 2015 18:57:23 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-05-25 6:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:15:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>>>>
>>>> It has commercial applications.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
>>> cuz that's what it is.
>>
>> From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.
>>
>
>It is, but it is better than dealing with the damage from cars sliding
>into each other on icy roads.

True. We have plenty of ice on our roads here (as we do right now) but
we don't use salt here. I have seen sand used here. Personally, even
though the black ice is problematic, I think all in all I prefer that
salt isn't used here, I suppose an exception could be made for really
steep sections of roads though.

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 6:46:32 PM UTC-4, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:15:15 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
> >>
> >> It has commercial applications.
> >>
> >
> >We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
> > cuz that's what it is.
>
> From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.

Yeah. But it's either rusting out over the long term, or
immediate auto body damage from sliding on the ice.

My car is about 15 years old, and isn't a rusted-out hulk
by any means.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2015-05-26 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>> We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
>>> cuz that's what it is.
>>
>> From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.
>
> Yeah. But it's either rusting out over the long term, or
> immediate auto body damage from sliding on the ice.
>
> My car is about 15 years old, and isn't a rusted-out hulk
> by any means.
>




Cars have much better rust protection now than they did in the past.
Back in the 1970s when I started buying cars you could count on serious
rust damage within a few years. Engines also tended to die quickly, so
if you were putting a lot of miles on a car you would be lucky to get 5
years out of it. I just replaced my mother's 1997 Buick last week. It
only had 140,000 clicks on it and was running great. I sent it to the
shop for a leak in the fuel system and when my mechanic put it up on the
hoist he spotted some serious rust damage. There was only one spot on
one of the doors that showed surface rust.

On 2015-05-26 11:00 AM, wrote:

> I just sold my 14 year old car but rust was definitely not why - I
> figured I was going to face bills here and there and this was the
> moment to decide whether to put more money in, or change.
>
> This one has undercoat protection and I figure it will see me out.
>


I would have sold that Buick years ago but my wife loved it and did not
want to give it up. Even when the front end was rotted she thought I had
coached the mechanic to say that. Three years ago I had a problem with
the transmission slipping. I took it to my mechanic to check it out and
went looking for a replacement. Then he called me and said it was a
leaking line. With parts and labour it was only $150 to get it fixed.
Last year I had to replace the fuel tank. She is retired and didn't put
a lot of miles on the car, so it was cheaper to spend $100-200 on
repairs 2-3 times a year than to make payments on a new car.

On Tue, 26 May 2015 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 6:46:32 PM UTC-4, Je�us wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2015 17:15:15 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2015-05-25 12:29 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>> >>
>> >> It has commercial applications.
>> >>
>> >
>> >We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
>> > cuz that's what it is.
>>
>> From pics I have seen, it's really bad for rusting out cars though.
>
>Yeah. But it's either rusting out over the long term, or
>immediate auto body damage from sliding on the ice.

Now that's true...

I suppose we have been lucky here, we get lots of black ice (as we
have now) and many roads are steep because we live in a mountainous
area, but so far no serious incidents.

>My car is about 15 years old, and isn't a rusted-out hulk
>by any means.

Well that's not too bad then. Last year I saw some pics of some
Subarus on a USAian Subaru forum and I was taken aback at the amount
of rust in what were only ten year old cars - from salt.

On 26/05/2015 3:40 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2015 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>

>>>> We throw it on roads in the winter. It can also be sold as "sea salt",
>>>> cuz that's what it is.
>>>
>
>
>> My car is about 15 years old, and isn't a rusted-out hulk
>> by any means.
>
> Well that's not too bad then. Last year I saw some pics of some
> Subarus on a USAian Subaru forum and I was taken aback at the amount
> of rust in what were only ten year old cars - from salt.
>
We don't have that problem on the Prairies where the humidity is
generally low. If I see a rusty car, it's almost certainly from
Vancouver or eastern Canada.
Graham
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:14:53 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>> >
>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>> >
>>>> > nb
>>>> >
>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>
>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>
>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>>be economically viable/
>>
>
>Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?

It goes back into the ocean. The whole thing is an interesting
process.
Janet US

On Mon, 25 May 2015 10:42:18 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Mon, 25 May 2015 08:14:53 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:07:32 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"sf" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:34:45 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>>> > On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > nb
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415
>>>>
>>>> Why not use the desalinized water for agriculture?
>>>
>>>It is extremely expensive water and could not be produced on that scale and
>>>be economically viable/
>>>
>>
>>Plus, when the salt is taken out, what happens to all that salt ?
>
>It goes back into the ocean. The whole thing is an interesting
>process.
>Janet US

Actually the same quantity of salt (NACL) and water (H2O) has been on
this planet since its creation... it never changes.