On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:14:09 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive.

As many of the Subaru engines have an interference design if the timing belt breaks the engine is destroyed. They can't be "fixed".

http://www.richardfisher.com

On 28/05/2015 11:18 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:14:09 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
>> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
>> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive.
>
> As many of the Subaru engines have an interference design if the timing belt breaks the engine is destroyed. They can't be "fixed".
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>
Yet Consumer Reports puts them at the top of their list! Why, I don't
know because if you look at the CR records, after 4 or 5 years, there
are black dots in important areas.
Graham

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:40:22 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 28/05/2015 11:18 AM, Helpful person wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:14:09 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
>>> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
>>> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive.
>>
>> As many of the Subaru engines have an interference design if the timing belt breaks the engine is destroyed. They can't be "fixed".
>>
>> http://www.richardfisher.com
>>
>Yet Consumer Reports puts them at the top of their list!


I have a 2001 Forester GT, bought it second hand in 2009 (I think),
and it is more reliable than most other car-like vehicles around here.
Most of our roads are very punishing on vehicles of all types,
suspension is lucky to last 3 years on most cars here. Even so, mine
has held together fine, never had a breakdown of any type and it's
good on fuel, yet still has reasonable power. I've had a few other
Subarus in the past and IME I would say there a better and more
reliable vehicle than most.

>Why, I don't
>know because if you look at the CR records, after 4 or 5 years, there
>are black dots in important areas.

On 5/28/2015 7:18 AM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:14:09 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
>> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
>> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive.
>
> As many of the Subaru engines have an interference design if the timing belt breaks the engine is destroyed. They can't be "fixed".
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com
>

It's untrue that a broken cam belt will destroy an engine. I suppose it
could happen - I suppose anything can happen. Most of the time, you just
replace bent valves.

At the time that I had my subaru, the engine was a non-interference
design. I could also tell you if your belt was gonna break because the
belt would de-laminate and make a most peculiar noise. I must be some
kind of damn genius!

On 2015-05-28 2:11 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> It's untrue that a broken cam belt will destroy an engine. I suppose it
> could happen - I suppose anything can happen. Most of the time, you just
> replace bent valves.
>
> At the time that I had my subaru, the engine was a non-interference
> design. I could also tell you if your belt was gonna break because the
> belt would de-laminate and make a most peculiar noise. I must be some
> kind of damn genius!


If only you could learn to keep your stories straight:
"OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive. "

On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 11:20:10 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-05-28 2:11 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > It's untrue that a broken cam belt will destroy an engine. I suppose it
> > could happen - I suppose anything can happen. Most of the time, you just
> > replace bent valves.
> >
> > At the time that I had my subaru, the engine was a non-interference
> > design. I could also tell you if your belt was gonna break because the
> > belt would de-laminate and make a most peculiar noise. I must be some
> > kind of damn genius!
>
>
> If only you could learn to keep your stories straight:
> "OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive. "

Well pardner, there's nobody here that's more of a straight shooter than I. Subaru have had a good reputation for reliability for a long time. That would be because people are stupid. They did have a problem with broken timing belts. I would see quite a few on the side of the road.

Subaru backwards is U R a Bus. That's so true and driving my Subaru was a real drag. These remarks are about the ones that had the engines with two timing belts. I believe they're better cars these days but I can't comment on that because I don't have much experience with one. I'm fairly sure that I'd dig a new WRX though. Who the hell wouldn't?

In article >,
says...

> there's nobody here that's more of a straight shooter than I.

Bryan and Kuthe will probably challenge you for that self-awarded
title.

Janet

On 2015-05-29 11:40 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> there's nobody here that's more of a straight shooter than I.
>
> Bryan and Kuthe will probably challenge you for that self-awarded
> title.
>

Bear in mind this is the guy who didn't like having to shift into 5th
gear all the time, the gear that most normal drivers use only when they
get up to highway speed. He figures cars are more efficient when driven
in the highest possible gear.... which helps to explain why so many auto
manufacturers are switching to 2 speed transmissions instead of 5.

On 5/29/2015 5:40 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>> there's nobody here that's more of a straight shooter than I.
>
> Bryan and Kuthe will probably challenge you for that self-awarded
> title.
>
> Janet
>
>
>

You would probably be correct in that regard, madam. No matter, I love a
challenge. :-)

On 2015-05-28 1:18 PM, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 12:14:09 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> OTOH, Subarus have always had good press but when I'd see them on the
>> side of the road, I knew exactly what happened to them - broken timing
>> belt. That's easy enough to fix. To bad they're a drag to drive.
>
> As many of the Subaru engines have an interference design if the timing belt breaks the engine is destroyed. They can't be "fixed".
>
>


How could you dare to disagree with a guy who can tell you that a Subaru
broken down at the side of the road has a broken timing belt?