I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.

Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.




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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>

But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>

So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
from?

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>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>
>
> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
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> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>
> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>

I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>> we
>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>
>
> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> from?


Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could get
very ugly.



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"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>>huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the
>>>> last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should
>>>> be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal
>>>> immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>
>
> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.

Where will your water come from? Are you in California?

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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>lot
>>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>> we
>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>> come from?
>
>
> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could
> get very ugly.

Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>>lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>>>huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>>people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>>> cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the
>>>>> last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>>>>> should
>>>>> be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal
>>>>> immigrants.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>>
>>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>>
>>
>> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.
>
> Where will your water come from? Are you in California?
>

We will have rain next winter, and then all will be forgotten. And then
everyone will be surprised when we have insufficient water during the next
totally predictable drought.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>lot
>>>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>people
>>>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>>> we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>>> come from?
>>
>>
>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could
>> get very ugly.
>
> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?

Of course I am worried. But short of moving to a wetter place I have no
options. We're all going to have to pitch in and do our part. I already
have cut my water use down to less than 10 gallons a day. The average is
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
>stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
>Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!


They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?

William

On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:

> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.

nb

On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:32:44 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >
> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
> water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
> have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
> mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>
>
Adding insult to injury, vandals created a breach in an inflatable dam
(first time I've heard of that type) that released enough water to
supply water to 500 homes for an entire year (49 million gallons). It
might have been good for the Bay, but it was bad for water
conservation.
http://kron4.com/2015/05/22/vandals-...ater-into-bay/
In the mean time, there's extreme weather of all kinds East of the
Rockies...
http://kron4.com/2015/05/22/vandals-...ater-into-bay/
and plate tectonics are ramping up too
http://dutchsinse.com/5222015-erupti...over-48-hours/

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

Yes, everyone is affected, of course the very rich are still watering their
lush landscapes by having water trucked in, but the water is coming from
somewhere so if the drought persists, I imagine the landscape is the least
of the worries. Here they want us to cut use by 35 percent, which I have
been trying to do, but some places are in worse shape.

Agriculture is a huge part of the countries food supply which comes from CA,
so I imagine prices will skyrocket.


Cheri

On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>
> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >
>
> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> from?

There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
water gets none.

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On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:08:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?

Of course we're worried, but we're hoping for a wet winter.

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"William" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of
>>stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>>Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
>
> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>
> William

You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can imagine
it, they are asking people to take military type showers already, no more
than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse off.

Cheri

On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>

The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
megadrought in the Western US.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...-a-megadrought

1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN

2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES

3. RETHINK THE ALMOND

4. FIX THE PIPES

5. SMARTER DESALINATION


They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.

And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.

On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:

>
> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> water gets none.
>

Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Yes, everyone is affected, of course the very rich are still watering
> their lush landscapes by having water trucked in, but the water is coming
> from somewhere so if the drought persists, I imagine the landscape is the
> least of the worries. Here they want us to cut use by 35 percent, which I
> have been trying to do, but some places are in worse shape.
>
> Agriculture is a huge part of the countries food supply which comes from
> CA, so I imagine prices will skyrocket.


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"sf" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:08:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?
>
> Of course we're worried, but we're hoping for a wet winter.

I do hope you get one!!!

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"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
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> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>
> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
> megadrought in the Western US.
>
> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...-a-megadrought
>
> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>
> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>
> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>
> 4. FIX THE PIPES
>
> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>
>
> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>
> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.

Oh dear

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On 5/24/2015 8:32 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
> water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
> have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
> mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.


Really?

Cite?

On 5/24/2015 9:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>> a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
>>>> the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
>>>> showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
>>>> being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
>>> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
>>> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>>> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>
> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>
>
There's truth enough in that to be a concern.

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 7:50:14 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>
> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >
>
> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

Similarly, I haven't heard my wife talking about buying a safe for the
jewelry she expects to buy after she wins the lottery.

On 5/24/2015 9:41 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>
>
> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.
>
>
+1

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:32:44 AM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>

The drought affects people around the world, most notably in Yemen.
California is about as bad off as Taiwan.

On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
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>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>>> a lot
>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last
>>>> year we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>>> come from?
>>
>>
>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It
>> could get very ugly.
>
> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?
>
>
I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence.

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>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>>> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>>>> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>>> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>>>> cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the
>>>>>> last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal
>>>>>> immigrants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>>>
>>>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.
>>
>> Where will your water come from? Are you in California?
>>
>
> We will have rain next winter, and then all will be forgotten. And then
> everyone will be surprised when we have insufficient water during the next
> totally predictable drought.
>
>
There's an el Nino already formed, but it hasn't helped Cali much...yet...

On 2015-05-24, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:

>> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>> water gets none.

> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.

Ed, I can understand your not knowing CA history, but sf has zero excuse.
In fact, sf gets her water from Hetch-Hetchy, which is 170 miles away.
How does she think that pristine Sierra snow water gets all the way to
San Fransico? By taxi!?

SoCal (Southern California) has been robbing the rest of the state
blind for water for decades. Pipelines are entirely too small.
Check out the California Aquaduct:

http://tinyurl.com/lkuv8kc

These canals are typically 100 ft wide (at surface) and 30 ft deep.
These water wars, which make up the biggest point of contention in
NorCal and SoCal politics, have been going on for decades. Even as
far back as the 19th century.

nb

On 5/24/2015 10:27 AM, William wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
>
> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>
> William
>

In a word - yes.

Think smart water meters.

On 5/24/2015 10:32 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-05-24, William > wrote:
>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>
> Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you.
>
> nb
>
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0N601V20150415

California's 3-year-old drought has thrust seawater desalination into
the spotlight as San Diego County, Santa Barbara and other cities push
ahead with treatment plants that will soon turn the Pacific Ocean into a
source of drinking water.

Desalination has emerged as a newly promising technology in California
in the face of a record dry spell that has forced tough new conservation
measures, depleted reservoirs and raised the costs of importing fresh
water from elsewhere.

But experts warn that converting seawater to drinking supplies remains
an expensive, energy-intensive enterprise that has had mixed success in
places like Australia and Florida.

The biggest ocean desalination plant in the Western Hemisphere, a $1
billion project under construction since 2012 on a coastal lagoon in the
California city of Carlsbad, is nearly completed and due to open in
November, delivering up to 50 million gallons of water a day to San
Diego County.

That is enough to supply roughly 112,000 households, or about 10 percent
of the county's drinking water needs, according to Poseidon Resources,
the Connecticut-based company behind the facility.

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 9:57:23 AM UTC-7, Cabrito del Bosque wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
> > lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
> > huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
> > people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >
> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
>
> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
> megadrought in the Western US.
>
> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...-a-megadrought
>
> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>
> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>
> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>
> 4. FIX THE PIPES
>
> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>
>
> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>
> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.

No drought in Mexico? Let's drink their milkshake.

Growing almonds is actually a smart response to drought -- yields
the most dollars per gallon. And yields of perfect nuts are highest
where irrigation is required -- no pests or diseases affect the crop.

The trouble with building desalinization plants is that they must be
used in order to pay back the investment. Therefore you lock yourself
into buying rather expensive water for the next 20 years, even if it
rains like crazy.

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:32:44 AM UTC-7, Ophelia wrote:
> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

While people want to demonize the almond, the water it takes to grow
one is the same as what's used to flush away a wee.

On 5/24/2015 10:37 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
>> from?
>
> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> water gets none.
>

Um, ekshually:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-...to-california/

William Shatner to launch $30 billion Kickstarter campaign for water
pipeline to California

William Shatner wants to turn to crowdfunding to build a water pipeline
from Seattle to Nevada's Lake Mead to fix California's drought.

Shatner, 84, revealed the news in a Yahoo! interview, saying, "So I'm
starting a Kickstarter campaign. I want $30 billion...to build a
pipeline like the Alaska pipeline. Say, from Seattle -- a place where
there's a lot of water. There's too much water. How bad would it be to
get a large, 4-foot pipeline, keep it aboveground -- because if it
leaks, you're irrigating!"

On 5/24/2015 10:39 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:08:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?
>
> Of course we're worried, but we're hoping for a wet winter.
>
With this el nino it may happen.

http://unofficialnetworks.com/2015/0...ia-this-winter

Climate scientists at the International Research Institute for Climate
and Society (IRI) announced today that El Nino is growing stronger and
could bring much needed snow to California this winter. They are so
confident with their prediction that they are saying that El Nino is
close to 100 percent, with simulations suggesting it could exceed the
historic 1997-1998 season.

However, IRI scientists said global warming has made it difficult to
predict an El Nino event. Last spring, models predicted similar El Niño
drought-busting conditions. California went on to see the driest January
in 40 years last winter.

“The difference is that this year an El Nino is already in place, with
both ocean and atmosphere participating in the coupled climate
phenomenon,” said IRI’s Chief Forecaster Tony Barnston.

If the conditions continue on this trend, then California and most of
the Northern Hemisphere would be in for a very deep winter.

On 5/24/2015 10:40 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:32:35 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> lot of
>>> stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>>
>> They may need to build massive desalinization plants on the California
>> coast to supply water for human consumption or shut California down.
>> Can you imagine "the water police" from the People's Republic of
>> California timing your shower not to exceed two (2) minutes?
>>
>> William
>
> You shut CA down, you shoot the rest of the country in the foot since CA
> supplies a whole lot of food for the rest of the country. Yes, I can
> imagine it, they are asking people to take military type showers
> already, no more than 5 minutes start to finish, get wet, soap up, rinse
> off.
>
> Cheri
>
>


Sensible request too.

On 5/24/2015 10:58 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>> water gets none.
>>
>
> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.


Shatner thinks so.

Seattle may differ.

On 5/24/2015 11:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 5/24/2015 4:32 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>
>> The worst thing imaginable is IF this becomes part of the predicted
>> megadrought in the Western US.
>>
>> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3044538/w...-a-megadrought
>>
>>
>> 1. SAY GOODBYE TO THE LAWN
>>
>> 2. REDESIGN CITIES AS SPONGES
>>
>> 3. RETHINK THE ALMOND
>>
>> 4. FIX THE PIPES
>>
>> 5. SMARTER DESALINATION
>>
>>
>> They'll need to move quickly on all of the above.
>>
>> And we'll all need to get used to buying more produce from Mexico.
>
> Oh dear
>

It's always best to plan for the worst and celebrate anything that isn't.