I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot of
stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.

Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>
> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!

Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.




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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>

But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>
>
> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>
> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>

I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.

"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>>huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the
>>>> last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should
>>>> be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal
>>>> immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>
>
> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.

Where will your water come from? Are you in California?

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On 5/24/2015 9:41 AM, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the
>>>>> huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>>> we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>>
>
> I don't see anarchy arising from our current totalitarian state.
>
>
+1

On 5/24/2015 9:40 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "taxed and spent" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>> a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
>>>> the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
>>>> showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
>>>> being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
>>> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
>>> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>>> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>
> So the prediction of anarchy might not be too far away from the truth??
>
>
There's truth enough in that to be a concern.

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 7:50:14 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>
> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >
>
> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.

Similarly, I haven't heard my wife talking about buying a safe for the
jewelry she expects to buy after she wins the lottery.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 7:50:14 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>> >>lot
>> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>> >>people
>> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>> >>
>> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>> >
>> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>> > food,
>> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>> > cutback
>> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>> > we
>> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>> >
>>
>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>
> Similarly, I haven't heard my wife talking about buying a safe for the
> jewelry she expects to buy after she wins the lottery.

That is a bit different, isn't it. Years with heavy rains are quite
frequent. We need to be putting more away for those non-rainy days.

On 2015-05-24, taxed and spent > wrote:


> We need to be putting more away for those non-rainy days.

They can't fill the dams/resevoirs/aquifers they already have!

nb

On 5/24/2015 1:11 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 7:50:14 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>> lot
>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>>> we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> Similarly, I haven't heard my wife talking about buying a safe for the
>> jewelry she expects to buy after she wins the lottery.
>
> That is a bit different, isn't it. Years with heavy rains are quite
> frequent. We need to be putting more away for those non-rainy days.
>
>
That is precisely what desert states are doing with groundwater
injection - water banking!

"taxed and spent" > wrote in message
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>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 7:50:14 AM UTC-7, taxed and spent wrote:
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> >>lot
>>> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>> >>people
>>> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>> >
>>> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>> > food,
>>> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>> > cutback
>>> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last
>>> > year we
>>> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>> >
>>>
>>> But I still have not heard any talk about adding storage capacity or
>>> groundwater replenishment basins, for the times we do have rain.
>>
>> Similarly, I haven't heard my wife talking about buying a safe for the
>> jewelry she expects to buy after she wins the lottery.
>
> That is a bit different, isn't it. Years with heavy rains are quite
> frequent. We need to be putting more away for those non-rainy days.


That would take tax money.

We have enough damns and reservoirs., What do you think has kept us going?
This is year 4 of extreme drought. Just how much capacity can you plan for?




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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>

So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
from?

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>
>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>> we
>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>
>
> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> from?


Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could get
very ugly.



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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>lot
>>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>> we
>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>> come from?
>
>
> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could
> get very ugly.

Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>>>>lot
>>>>>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>>people
>>>>>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year
>>>> we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>>> come from?
>>
>>
>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could
>> get very ugly.
>
> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?

Of course I am worried. But short of moving to a wetter place I have no
options. We're all going to have to pitch in and do our part. I already
have cut my water use down to less than 10 gallons a day. The average is
65.



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On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:08:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?

Of course we're worried, but we're hoping for a wet winter.

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On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>>>> a lot
>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>>>> people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>>> food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>>> cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last
>>>> year we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>>> come from?
>>
>>
>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It
>> could get very ugly.
>
> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?
>
>
I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:08:09 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It could
>> get very ugly.
>
>Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone
>speaking about it. Are you not all very worried?

Well it's a little off-topic.

J.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>
> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >
>
> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> from?

There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
water gets none.

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On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:

>
> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> water gets none.
>

Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.

On 2015-05-24, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:

>> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>> water gets none.

> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.

Ed, I can understand your not knowing CA history, but sf has zero excuse.
In fact, sf gets her water from Hetch-Hetchy, which is 170 miles away.
How does she think that pristine Sierra snow water gets all the way to
San Fransico? By taxi!?

SoCal (Southern California) has been robbing the rest of the state
blind for water for decades. Pipelines are entirely too small.
Check out the California Aquaduct:

http://tinyurl.com/lkuv8kc

These canals are typically 100 ft wide (at surface) and 30 ft deep.
These water wars, which make up the biggest point of contention in
NorCal and SoCal politics, have been going on for decades. Even as
far back as the 19th century.

nb

On 5/24/2015 10:58 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:
>
>>
>> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>> water gets none.
>>
>
> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.


Shatner thinks so.

Seattle may differ.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:58:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 12:37 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >
> > There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> > water gets none.
> >
>
> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.

Who needs a reasonable distance? If oil can be piped from Mid-Canada
to the Gulf coast then water can go that distance too.

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On 2015-05-24 1:57 PM, wrote:

>> Where would the pipeline come from? Is there enough water in a
>> reasonable distance? If so, it would be a smart idea.
>
> I recall years ago they approached British Columbia about all their
> lakes with the water not being used. Apparently it would be a
> federal, not provincial matter and permission was not given but rather
> the exhortation to fix the problem at home, not prolong by sucking BC
> lakes dry.
>
Those lakes and rivers are part of the ecosystem. Sucking water from
those sources will just cause hardship for the stuff downstream. There
are international treaties concerning the Great Lakes, though there is a
river some... Illinois<?>.. that has been engineered to suck water out
of Lake Michigan instead of feeding into it.

On 5/24/2015 10:37 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>
>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
>> from?
>
> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> water gets none.
>

Um, ekshually:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-...to-california/

William Shatner to launch $30 billion Kickstarter campaign for water
pipeline to California

William Shatner wants to turn to crowdfunding to build a water pipeline
from Seattle to Nevada's Lake Mead to fix California's drought.

Shatner, 84, revealed the news in a Yahoo! interview, saying, "So I'm
starting a Kickstarter campaign. I want $30 billion...to build a
pipeline like the Alaska pipeline. Say, from Seattle -- a place where
there's a lot of water. There's too much water. How bad would it be to
get a large, 4-foot pipeline, keep it aboveground -- because if it
leaks, you're irrigating!"

On Sun, 24 May 2015 11:37:55 -0600, Cabrito del Bosque
> wrote:

> On 5/24/2015 10:37 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >>>
> >>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> >>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> >>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> >>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> >>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >>>
> >>
> >> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> >> from?
> >
> > There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> > water gets none.
> >
>
> Um, ekshually:
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-...to-california/
>
> William Shatner to launch $30 billion Kickstarter campaign for water
> pipeline to California
>
> William Shatner wants to turn to crowdfunding to build a water pipeline
> from Seattle to Nevada's Lake Mead to fix California's drought.
>
> Shatner, 84, revealed the news in a Yahoo! interview, saying, "So I'm
> starting a Kickstarter campaign. I want $30 billion...to build a
> pipeline like the Alaska pipeline. Say, from Seattle -- a place where
> there's a lot of water. There's too much water. How bad would it be to
> get a large, 4-foot pipeline, keep it aboveground -- because if it
> leaks, you're irrigating!"

Why pick Seattle? I wouldn't pick such a populated area.

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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:37:58 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>> >>
>> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>> >
>> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
>> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>> >
>>
>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
>> from?
>
>There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>water gets none.

who were you wanting to take the water from?
Janet US

On 5/24/2015 12:52 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:37:58 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>>
>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
>>> from?
>>
>> There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>> water gets none.
>
> who were you wanting to take the water from?
> Janet US
>

Shatner says Seattle.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:37:58 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a
>>> >>lot
>>> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>>> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how
>>> >>people
>>> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>> >
>>> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>> > food,
>>> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35%
>>> > cutback
>>> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last
>>> > year we
>>> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
>>> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>>> >
>>>
>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water
>>> come
>>> from?
>>
>>There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>>water gets none.
>
> who were you wanting to take the water from?


Time to invade Canada. We will be greeted as liberators and the cost of the
war will pay for itself with water revenues.



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On Sun, 24 May 2015 12:52:53 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:37:58 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:39:10 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >>I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >> >>of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >> >>reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >> >>with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >> >
> >> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> >> > half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback
> >> > on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we
> >> > will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full
> >> > anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water come
> >> from?
> >
> >There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
> >water gets none.
>
> who were you wanting to take the water from?

Not "take", buy. Answered in a previous post.


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On Sun, 24 May 2015 09:37:58 -0700, sf > wrote:

>There's no talk of a water pipeline yet. Oil gets lots of pipelines,
>water gets none.

When the distance goes over about 500 miles of flat land, desalination
is cheaper, for the coastal cities.

J.

On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:32:44 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
> >of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
> >reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
> >with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
> >
> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
> water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
> have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
> mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.
>
>
Adding insult to injury, vandals created a breach in an inflatable dam
(first time I've heard of that type) that released enough water to
supply water to 500 homes for an entire year (49 million gallons). It
might have been good for the Bay, but it was bad for water
conservation.
http://kron4.com/2015/05/22/vandals-...ater-into-bay/
In the mean time, there's extreme weather of all kinds East of the
Rockies...
http://kron4.com/2015/05/22/vandals-...ater-into-bay/
and plate tectonics are ramping up too
http://dutchsinse.com/5222015-erupti...over-48-hours/

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On 5/24/2015 8:32 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had a lot
>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge
>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how people
>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised.
>>
>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's food,
> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% cutback on
> water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last year we will
> have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full anarchy
> mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants.


Really?

Cite?

Paul M. Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
> > a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
> > the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
> > showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
> > being demonised.
> >
> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>
> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
> illegal immigrants.
>
>
>
>
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Paul, major correction. California grows maybe 5% of our food. It's
only a major cropper of some items and those can be grown elsewhere.

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Paul M. Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>> > a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
>> > the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
>> > showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
>> > being demonised.
>> >
>> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
>> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
>> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
>> illegal immigrants.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Paul, major correction. California grows maybe 5% of our food. It's
> only a major cropper of some items and those can be grown elsewhere.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ure-explainer/




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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Paul M. Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>> > a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
>> > the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
>> > showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
>> > being demonised.
>> >
>> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>
>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
>> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
>> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
>> illegal immigrants.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Paul, major correction. California grows maybe 5% of our food. It's
> only a major cropper of some items and those can be grown elsewhere.

Food Facts

California has been the number one food and agricultural producer in the
United States for more than 50 consecutive years.

More than half the nation's fruit, nuts, and vegetables come from here.

California is the nation's number one dairy state.

California's leading commodity is milk and cream. Grapes are second.

California's leading export crop is almonds.

Nationally, products exclusively grown (99% or more) in California include
almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, kiwifruit, olives, persimmons, pistachios,
prunes, raisins, clovers, and walnuts.

From 70 to 80% of all ripe olives are grown in California.

California is the nation's leading producer of strawberries, averaging 1.4
billion pounds of strawberries or 83% of the country's total fresh and
frozen strawberry production. Approximately 12% of the crop is exported to
Canada, Mexico, United Kingdom, Hong Kong and Japan primarily. The value of
the California strawberry crop is approximately $700 million with related
employment of more than 48,000 people.

California produces 25% of the nation's onions and 43% of the nation's green
onions.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Paul M. Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
>>> > a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
>>> > the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
>>> > showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
>>> > being demonised.
>>> >
>>> > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
>>>
>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
>>> food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
>>> 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
>>> the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
>>> should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
>>> illegal immigrants.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Paul, major correction. California grows maybe 5% of our food. It's
>> only a major cropper of some items and those can be grown elsewhere.
>
> Food Facts
>
> California has been the number one food and agricultural producer in the
> United States for more than 50 consecutive years.
>
> More than half the nation's fruit, nuts, and vegetables come from here.
>
> California is the nation's number one dairy state.
>
> California's leading commodity is milk and cream. Grapes are second.
>
> California's leading export crop is almonds.
>
> Nationally, products exclusively grown (99% or more) in California include
> almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, kiwifruit, olives, persimmons,
> pistachios, prunes, raisins, clovers, and walnuts.
>
> From 70 to 80% of all ripe olives are grown in California.
>
> California is the nation's leading producer of strawberries, averaging 1.4
> billion pounds of strawberries or 83% of the country's total fresh and
> frozen strawberry production. Approximately 12% of the crop is exported to
> Canada, Mexico, United Kingdom, Hong Kong and Japan primarily. The value
> of the California strawberry crop is approximately $700 million with
> related employment of more than 48,000 people.
>
> California produces 25% of the nation's onions and 43% of the nation's
> green onions.

Now THAT is no small production!! I suspect much of that could be at risk if
this water problem is not resolved!

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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 11:10:44 AM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:
> Paul M. Cook wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >
> > "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had
> > > a lot of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown
> > > the huge reservoirs with very little water in them. They were
> > > showing how people with lush grass and full swimming pools were
> > > being demonised.
> > >
> > > Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening!
> >
> > Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's
> > food, half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a
> > 35% cutback on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is
> > the last year we will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we
> > should be in full anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on
> > illegal immigrants.
> >


> Paul, major correction. California grows maybe 5% of our food. It's
> only a major cropper of some items and those can be grown elsewhere.
>

Mexico, Turkey, Iran, and Spain. Milk will be flown in daily from
Wisconsin.