My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
to make him something to cheer him up.

nancy

In article >, replyto@inemail
says...
>
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
> nancy



Meringue (non-sugar sweetener) with raspberries/ strawberries?

Janet UK

On 6/1/2015 12:35 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, replyto@inemail
> says...
>>
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> to make him something to cheer him up.

> Meringue (non-sugar sweetener) with raspberries/ strawberries?

That sounds good, and I was thinking of checking out some
of the non-sugar sweeteners I've seen mentioned in recipes
on diabetes.org.

Thanks for the suggestion.

nancy

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:26:45 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
wrote:

> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.
>

He loves oranges and whole fruit is best for a diabetic, so I'd peel
the orange, cut it into "wheels" and lightly sprinkle with cinnamon.
Think: low carb.

Have you seen this web site?
http://www.diabeticlivingonline.com/...essert-recipes

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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.


Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla wine
and cognac.



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On 6/1/2015 1:35 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:26:45 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
> wrote:
>
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> to make him something to cheer him up.
>>
>
> He loves oranges and whole fruit is best for a diabetic, so I'd peel
> the orange, cut it into "wheels" and lightly sprinkle with cinnamon.
> Think: low carb.

Mmmm ... I have stuff going on here and I'm thinking just
buying oranges will be my limit for tomorrow. I'll
make him something for another day. Thanks for the
cinnamon idea.
>
> Have you seen this web site?
> http://www.diabeticlivingonline.com/...cipes/dessert/
> delicious-diabetes-friendly-dessert-recipes

Thanks very much! I've bookmarked that and I'll be sending
it to my sil.

nancy

On 6/1/2015 1:43 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote

>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas?

> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla wine
> and cognac.

Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.

What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.

nancy

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 11:17:35 AM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 6/1/2015 1:43 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> > "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote
>
> >> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> >> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas?
>
> > Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla wine
> > and cognac.
>
> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>
> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>
> nancy

Google low carb no sugar desserts. There are a ton of sites now that have diabetic frendly Paleo and Primal desserts.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/1/2015 1:43 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote
>
>>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas?
>
>> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla wine
>> and cognac.
>
> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>
> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>

It is very, very little alcohol. In the whole cake, maybe 1/4 cup of
Marsala at most and a teaspoon of cognac. It's just the aromatics you're
after, not the alcohol.

A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I never
put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.



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On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:26:49 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
wrote:

> A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I never
> put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.

Do you glance at a recipe or fly by the seat of your pants?

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"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 11:17:35 AM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 6/1/2015 1:43 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> > "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote
>>
>> >> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> >> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas?
>>
>> > Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla
>> > wine
>> > and cognac.
>>
>> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>>
>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>>
>> nancy
>
> Google low carb no sugar desserts. There are a ton of sites now that have
> diabetic frendly Paleo and Primal desserts.
>

Iced, jellied bison liver is good, I hear.



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...
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:26:49 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>> A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I
>> never
>> put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.
>
> Do you glance at a recipe or fly by the seat of your pants?

Brain freeze. I was thinking sorbet. So nice of you to catch that.



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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
> nancy

This is always nice, but the oranges would be enough carb wise if he's type
2.

Almond-Flour Pound Cake

1 C butter
1 C pourable Splenda
5 eggs
2 C almond flour
1 t baking powder
1 t lemon extract
1 t vanilla extract

Cream butter and Splenda well. Add eggs one at a time, beating after each.
Mix flour with baking powder and add to egg mixture a little at a time while
beating. Add lemon and vanilla extracts. Pour into greased 9" cake pan and
bake at 350 for 50-55 minutes

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:13:13 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

> Thanks very much! I've bookmarked that and I'll be sending
> it to my sil.

YW! Tell her to look up "resistant starch". Does she know about
KalynsKitchen.com? It's full of good ideas.
https://www.pinterest.com/source/kalynskitchen.com/


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On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:17:29 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 6/1/2015 1:43 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote
>
>>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas?
>
>> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it Marsalla wine
>> and cognac.
>
>Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>
>What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>
>nancy

Why does it need to be food... I know I never never consider food a
birthday gift... does he have any hobbies?

On 6/1/2015 3:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:17:29 -0400, Nancy Young

>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.

> Why does it need to be food... I know I never never consider food a
> birthday gift... does he have any hobbies?

I didn't say it was his birthday gift. As far as that goes,
he doesn't need any stuff, things are way more complicated
than that. nuff said.

nancy

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:24:27 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 6/1/2015 3:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:17:29 -0400, Nancy Young
>
>>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>
>> Why does it need to be food... I know I never never consider food a
>> birthday gift... does he have any hobbies?
>
>I didn't say it was his birthday gift. As far as that goes,
>he doesn't need any stuff, things are way more complicated
>than that. nuff said.
>
>nancy

Well, when things are "way more complicated" they shouldn't be posted
at any Newsgroup. How are strangers supposed to know the
"complications"? Okay, sorry I misread "BP" as Birth Day, but still.
.. . I never consider food an appropriate personal gift for any
occasion unless it's requested specifically... I know there are
zillions of companys pushing foods as gifts but I consider all of them
spammers. I will *bring* food like a cake or fresh fruit as a
communal gift for a group of people I don't know but never as a
personal gift unless a particular food item is specifically requested.
Were I going to give a relative a gift I'd think a dozen pair of warm
socks or a quality bath towel set makes a far classier gift than some
cheese, sausage, and crackers from some on line spammer. I consider
giving food as a gift a cop out for those who'd rather not expend the
brain cells to think of somthing appropriate. Buy him a fishing rod,
better a gift certificate for Cabelas.

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:26:50 AM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
> nancy



Nancy,

I know nothing about diabetic desserts, but I think the oranges would be lovely. How about presenting them in a pretty basket or bowl?

Nellie

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 1:52:10 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> ...
> > My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> > him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> > oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> > to make him something to cheer him up.
> >
> > nancy
>
> This is always nice, but the oranges would be enough carb wise if he's type
> 2.
>
> Almond-Flour Pound Cake
>
> 1 C butter
> 1 C pourable Splenda
> 5 eggs
> 2 C almond flour
> 1 t baking powder
> 1 t lemon extract
> 1 t vanilla extract
>
> Cream butter and Splenda well. Add eggs one at a time, beating after each.
> Mix flour with baking powder and add to egg mixture a little at a time while
> beating. Add lemon and vanilla extracts. Pour into greased 9" cake pan and
> bake at 350 for 50-55 minutes

You should buy yourself a packet of pure sucralose. Splenda is very pricey,
and the carrier is pure carb.

http://www.amazon.com/Sucralose-Powd.../dp/B006M0HNF2

--Bryan

Nellie wrote:
>Nancy Young wrote:
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
>I know nothing about diabetic desserts, but I think the oranges would be lovely. How about presenting them in a pretty basket or bowl?
>
>Nellie

Oranges as is most fruit is very high in sugar, I doubt it's a good
choice for a diabetic. I'd definitily not give food as a gift for a
diabetic. An article of clothing would be much more appropriate,
perhaps a nice bathrobe... but I'd not consider gfting food to anyone
whose illness revolves around their diet... doesn't get more brain
dead.

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

>> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it
>> Marsalla wine and cognac.
>
> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>
> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.

Not to mention that alcohol converts to sugar.

--

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you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
> nancy

Oranges? Those are probably one of the worst things for a diabetic.
Diabetics need to watch their carbs. Oranges are high in carbs. Does he
even eat dessert? I am diabetic and I usually don't eat it. Nuts should be
fine. Perhaps even lightly sweetened ones if he eats those. I sometimes
eat Sahale Snacks. Just beware of anything with sugar alcohols in it.
Those are laxatives and often touted for diabetics.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:26:49 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> wrote:
>
>> A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I
>> never
>> put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.
>
> Do you glance at a recipe or fly by the seat of your pants?

Wouldn't gelato have dairy?

On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 20:52:02 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:50:33 -0400, Brooklyn1
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:24:27 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/1/2015 3:12 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:17:29 -0400, Nancy Young
>>>
>>>>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>>>>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>>>>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>>>
>>>> Why does it need to be food... I know I never never consider food a
>>>> birthday gift... does he have any hobbies?
>>>
>>>I didn't say it was his birthday gift. As far as that goes,
>>>he doesn't need any stuff, things are way more complicated
>>>than that. nuff said.
>>>
>>>nancy
>>
>>Well, when things are "way more complicated" they shouldn't be posted
>>at any Newsgroup. How are strangers supposed to know the
>>"complications"? Okay, sorry I misread "BP" as Birth Day, but still.
>>. . I never consider food an appropriate personal gift for any
>>occasion unless it's requested specifically... I know there are
>>zillions of companys pushing foods as gifts but I consider all of them
>>spammers. I will *bring* food like a cake or fresh fruit as a
>>communal gift for a group of people I don't know but never as a
>>personal gift unless a particular food item is specifically requested.
>>Were I going to give a relative a gift I'd think a dozen pair of warm
>>socks or a quality bath towel set makes a far classier gift than some
>>cheese, sausage, and crackers from some on line spammer. I consider
>>giving food as a gift a cop out for those who'd rather not expend the
>>brain cells to think of somthing appropriate. Buy him a fishing rod,
>>better a gift certificate for Cabelas.
>
>You really are a miserable person.

And you're a pinhead whose looking to *murder* a diabetic.

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:35:24 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:26:49 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I
> >> never
> >> put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.
> >
> > Do you glance at a recipe or fly by the seat of your pants?
>
> Wouldn't gelato have dairy?

Typically gelato has less dairy content...depends who makes it.
Not all diabetics avoid dairy products entirely. My GF eats ice-cream
but limits her intake. Some people know how to enjoy food without
going overboard.

On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:33:34 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> ...
> > My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> > him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> > oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> > to make him something to cheer him up.
> >
> > nancy
>
> Oranges? Those are probably one of the worst things for a diabetic.
> Diabetics need to watch their carbs. Oranges are high in carbs. Does he
> even eat dessert? I am diabetic and I usually don't eat it. Nuts should be
> fine. Perhaps even lightly sweetened ones if he eats those. I sometimes
> eat Sahale Snacks. Just beware of anything with sugar alcohols in it.
> Those are laxatives and often touted for diabetics.

Only in SOME people do they have a laxative effect. Not ALL people have
the same problems you have...THANK GAWD.

The diabetic web sites can provide more guidance.
=====

On 6/1/2015 8:13 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:33:34 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote

>>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>>> to make him something to cheer him up.

>> Oranges? Those are probably one of the worst things for a diabetic.
>> Diabetics need to watch their carbs.

I'm going by diabetes.org, which says citrus are one of
the diabetes superfoods. I didn't expect that, but there
you go.

> The diabetic web sites can provide more guidance.

That's my guide. He was also permitted oranges while he was
in the hospital.

If my sil tells me they are not allowed, I will take them back
home with me after the party.

nancy

On 6/1/2015 6:44 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:

> You should buy yourself a packet of pure sucralose. Splenda is very pricey,
> and the carrier is pure carb.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sucralose-Powd.../dp/B006M0HNF2

Interesting! I checked out the sugar free sweeteners at my
local supermarket and there wasn't much of a choice.

Thanks very much, I'll ask my sil if she'd like me to get that
for her. She bakes and she's been working around his numerous
food intolerances for years.

nancy

On 6/1/2015 3:01 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:13:13 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much! I've bookmarked that and I'll be sending
>> it to my sil.
>
> YW! Tell her to look up "resistant starch". Does she know about
> KalynsKitchen.com? It's full of good ideas.
> https://www.pinterest.com/source/kalynskitchen.com/

Thanks again! Strictly coincidentally, I have a blurb
I clipped right here about pasta. It says that when
noodles cool, their molecular structure changes. They
become a resistant starch, which passes through the body
as fiber instead of being absorbed as sugar.

So there you have it.

nancy

On 6/1/2015 6:26 PM, Nellie wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 9:26:50 AM UTC-7, Nancy Young wrote:
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy.

> Nancy,
>
> I know nothing about diabetic desserts, but I think the oranges
> would be lovely. How about presenting them in a pretty basket or bowl?

Thanks, Nellie, I think I have something nice to bring.
Not that he'll notice. Heh. I also made three bean salad
(okay, four), perhaps he can eat that. Beans are another
superfood.

I won't be bringing him a birthday gift, exactly. We're all
just getting together for some burgers, maybe cheer him up
a bit.

nancy

"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young > wrote in
> :
>
>>> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it
>>> Marsalla wine and cognac.
>>
>> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>>
>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>
> Not to mention that alcohol converts to sugar.


Not at all true. Sugar is a carbohydrate that changes to alcohol. Not the
other way around. Ethyl alcohol which is broken down in the human body is
first converted to acetaldehyde, and then this acetaldehyde is converted
into acetic acid radicals--also known as acetyl radicals. Not sugar.



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On 6/1/15 12:26 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> to make him something to cheer him up.

Fruit tart with a Crisco-based crust?

-- Larry

On 6/1/2015 2:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> ...
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> to make him something to cheer him up.
>>
>> nancy
>
> This is always nice, but the oranges would be enough carb wise if he's
> type 2.
>
> Almond-Flour Pound Cake
>
> 1 C butter
> 1 C pourable Splenda
> 5 eggs
> 2 C almond flour
> 1 t baking powder
> 1 t lemon extract
> 1 t vanilla extract
>
> Cream butter and Splenda well. Add eggs one at a time, beating after
> each. Mix flour with baking powder and add to egg mixture a little at a
> time while beating. Add lemon and vanilla extracts. Pour into greased
> 9" cake pan and bake at 350 for 50-55 minutes

Ooops, did I miss thanking you for this? Sorry, and if I missed
anyone else, I apologize. I did look for almond flour at the
store, but big surprise, no luck, and I'm not able to try making
my own tomorrow.

I've saved the recipe, thank you.

nancy

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:26:45 -0400, Nancy Young <replyto@inemail>
> wrote:
>
>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> to make him something to cheer him up.
>>
>
> He loves oranges and whole fruit is best for a diabetic, so I'd peel
> the orange, cut it into "wheels" and lightly sprinkle with cinnamon.
> Think: low carb.


Oranges are bad. They are very high in sugar. As they tell all diabetics,
sugar is sugar, does not matter if it fructose, sucrose or lactose - it's
all sugar.



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"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
...
> On 6/1/2015 3:01 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:13:13 -0400, Nancy Young
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks very much! I've bookmarked that and I'll be sending
>>> it to my sil.
>>
>> YW! Tell her to look up "resistant starch". Does she know about
>> KalynsKitchen.com? It's full of good ideas.
>> https://www.pinterest.com/source/kalynskitchen.com/
>
> Thanks again! Strictly coincidentally, I have a blurb
> I clipped right here about pasta. It says that when
> noodles cool, their molecular structure changes. They
> become a resistant starch, which passes through the body
> as fiber instead of being absorbed as sugar.
>
> So there you have it.

Nancy, pardon my French - but that is absolute horse hockey. Pasta will
spike your blood sugar worse than white rice. It is one enzyme away from
glucose and is immediately converted in the stomach to sugar. My love of
pasta is what led to my diabetes.



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"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:33:34 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
>> ...
>> > My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
>> > him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
>> > oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
>> > to make him something to cheer him up.
>> >
>> > nancy
>>
>> Oranges? Those are probably one of the worst things for a diabetic.
>> Diabetics need to watch their carbs. Oranges are high in carbs. Does he
>> even eat dessert? I am diabetic and I usually don't eat it. Nuts should
>> be
>> fine. Perhaps even lightly sweetened ones if he eats those. I sometimes
>> eat Sahale Snacks. Just beware of anything with sugar alcohols in it.
>> Those are laxatives and often touted for diabetics.
>
> Only in SOME people do they have a laxative effect. Not ALL people have
> the same problems you have...THANK GAWD.
>
> The diabetic web sites can provide more guidance.
> =====

I don't know about that. Bottom line is whatever diet her brother eats.
Diabetic websites do not have any useful information for me.

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:35:24 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:26:49 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> A homemade gelato would also be nice. Easy to controil the sugar - I
>> >> never
>> >> put any in I just let the fruit speak for itself.
>> >
>> > Do you glance at a recipe or fly by the seat of your pants?
>>
>> Wouldn't gelato have dairy?
>
> Typically gelato has less dairy content...depends who makes it.
> Not all diabetics avoid dairy products entirely. My GF eats ice-cream
> but limits her intake. Some people know how to enjoy food without
> going overboard.

She said that he can't have dairy. Dairy in and of itself has nothing to do
with diabetes.

"Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
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> On 6/1/2015 8:13 PM, Roy wrote:
> > On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 5:33:34 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote
>
> >>> My brother's birthday is tomorrow and I'd like to bring
> >>> him something. He can't have dairy. Any ideas? He loves
> >>> oranges, so I'll pick up some nice ones for him but I'd like
> >>> to make him something to cheer him up.
>
> >> Oranges? Those are probably one of the worst things for a diabetic.
> >> Diabetics need to watch their carbs.
>
> I'm going by diabetes.org, which says citrus are one of
> the diabetes superfoods. I didn't expect that, but there
> you go.
>
> > The diabetic web sites can provide more guidance.
>
> That's my guide. He was also permitted oranges while he was
> in the hospital.
>
> If my sil tells me they are not allowed, I will take them back
> home with me after the party.

Please do not go by what they fed him in the hospital. That is anything but
a typical diet for diabetics. The hospital will permit a person to eat
anything.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Nancy Young" <replyto@inemail> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 6/1/2015 3:01 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:13:13 -0400, Nancy Young
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks very much! I've bookmarked that and I'll be sending
>>>> it to my sil.
>>>
>>> YW! Tell her to look up "resistant starch". Does she know about
>>> KalynsKitchen.com? It's full of good ideas.
>>> https://www.pinterest.com/source/kalynskitchen.com/
>>
>> Thanks again! Strictly coincidentally, I have a blurb
>> I clipped right here about pasta. It says that when
>> noodles cool, their molecular structure changes. They
>> become a resistant starch, which passes through the body
>> as fiber instead of being absorbed as sugar.
>>
>> So there you have it.
>
> Nancy, pardon my French - but that is absolute horse hockey. Pasta will
> spike your blood sugar worse than white rice. It is one enzyme away from
> glucose and is immediately converted in the stomach to sugar. My love of
> pasta is what led to my diabetes.

Everyone is different Paul. I can eat white rice or pasta with no problems
at all, provided that I don't eat too much of it. I can't eat *any* corn,
barely or potatoes now. Even a speck causes spike city. Didn't used to be
that way for me. She needs to go by what her brother *can* or *can't* eat.
Or better still, give him something non-edible.

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Nancy Young > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>> Tiramisu is heavenly and uses very little sugar. I make it
>>>> Marsalla wine and cognac.
>>>
>>> Ooo, I'd love to make that for myself.
>>>
>>> What I didn't mention was that he's also had a mini stroke
>>> and I'm pretty sure I should avoid booze with his BP meds,
>>> so I'm keeping it simple, but thanks very much for the idea.
>>
>> Not to mention that alcohol converts to sugar.
>
>
> Not at all true. Sugar is a carbohydrate that changes to alcohol. Not
> the other way around. Ethyl alcohol which is broken down in the human
> body is first converted to acetaldehyde, and then this acetaldehyde is
> converted into acetic acid radicals--also known as acetyl radicals. Not
> sugar.

In the body of a diabetic, alcohol acts as a fat. It sort of ties up the
liver for a time and can cause the diabetic to have a hypo. Some diabetics
can have alcohol, some can't. I can't.