I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying that
in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that we didn't
prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the counter or we eat
while talking on the phone or while on the street. I don't recall ever
eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't recall eating anything
at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite of something. And I do
mean literally one bite. I had to stop making apple crisp. I loved it so
much that every time I went into the kitchen, I took a bite. They are also
saying that the average restaurant meal is $20 per person. I never pay that
much either.

But the real shocker is France! They say that the are 2nd in the world in
having the most McDonalds with the US being first. Frozen food is gaining
popularity there and over half of all restaurants serve frozen food. They
said that people assume it is freshly made but it is not. I do know that
most restaurants here serve frozen food. Perhaps not fine dining places but
the chain places do. And they said that most people can not tell they are
eating frozen food. Sadly, I do believe that part.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:35:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
>interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying that
>in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that we didn't
>prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the counter or we eat
>while talking on the phone or while on the street. I don't recall ever
>eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't recall eating anything
>at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite of something.

My husband does that all the time. Makes his sandwich and stands there
eating it.

When I make a sandwich for myself, I generally take it over to my desk
and eat it there while I do computer stuff.

Doris

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 5:35:29 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
> interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying that
> in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that we didn't
> prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the counter or we eat
> while talking on the phone or while on the street. I don't recall ever
> eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't recall eating anything
> at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite of something. And I do
> mean literally one bite. I had to stop making apple crisp. I loved it so
> much that every time I went into the kitchen, I took a bite.

I've eaten standing at the kitchen counter while keeping an eye on
something that's cooking. Occasionally I'm too busy to do things
sequentially and I have to do them simultaneously.

Generally, though, I eat sitting down.

> They are also
> saying that the average restaurant meal is $20 per person. I never pay that
> much either.

Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
at a sushi bar.

Cindy Hamilton

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 02:35:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
>>interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying that
>>in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that we
>>didn't
>>prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the counter or we eat
>>while talking on the phone or while on the street. I don't recall ever
>>eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't recall eating
>>anything
>>at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite of something.
>
> My husband does that all the time. Makes his sandwich and stands there
> eating it.
>
> When I make a sandwich for myself, I generally take it over to my desk
> and eat it there while I do computer stuff.

I don't eat too many sandwiches but almost always at my desk.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 5:35:29 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
>> interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying
>> that
>> in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that we
>> didn't
>> prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the counter or we
>> eat
>> while talking on the phone or while on the street. I don't recall ever
>> eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't recall eating
>> anything
>> at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite of something. And I do
>> mean literally one bite. I had to stop making apple crisp. I loved it
>> so
>> much that every time I went into the kitchen, I took a bite.
>
> I've eaten standing at the kitchen counter while keeping an eye on
> something that's cooking. Occasionally I'm too busy to do things
> sequentially and I have to do them simultaneously.
>
> Generally, though, I eat sitting down.
>
>> They are also
>> saying that the average restaurant meal is $20 per person. I never pay
>> that
>> much either.
>
> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
> at a sushi bar.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

They didn't say. I don't do liquor or sushi.

On 6/22/2015 3:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
> interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying
> that in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that
> we didn't prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the
> counter or we eat while talking on the phone or while on the street. I
> don't recall ever eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't
> recall eating anything at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite
> of something. And I do mean literally one bite. I had to stop making
> apple crisp. I loved it so much that every time I went into the
> kitchen, I took a bite. They are also saying that the average restaurant
> meal is $20 per person. I never pay that much either.
>
> But the real shocker is France! They say that the are 2nd in the world
> in having the most McDonalds with the US being first. Frozen food is
> gaining popularity there and over half of all restaurants serve frozen
> food. They said that people assume it is freshly made but it is not. I
> do know that most restaurants here serve frozen food. Perhaps not fine
> dining places but the chain places do. And they said that most people
> can not tell they are eating frozen food. Sadly, I do believe that part.

Ah the life of illusions shattered, shards of demi-reality at our toes,
sharp enough to cut, but numerous enough to be walked upon...

On 6/22/2015 11:08 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I don't do liquor or sushi.

Bully for you!

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:53:58 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:

> My husband does that all the time. Makes his sandwich and stands there
> eating it.

I did that just this morning and called it brunch. Half a sandwich:
deli sliced ham + arugula. Maybe it should be renamed a "standwich".

--

sf

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>I've eaten standing at the kitchen counter while keeping an eye on
>something that's cooking.

I can't do that, I can't eat while I'm cooking, that interferes with
my creativity and my sensory perceptions. I don't drink anything
while I cook either... my cooking gets my full undivided attention, I
don't want any conversation, I don't want anyone in the kitchen while
I'm cooking even if they never say a word. I was the same way on my
job, when running a machine I wanted no distractions... I don't want
any conversation while I'm driving an automobile either, that's why I
like mowing grass, it's a solitary job and for me is all about
precision and results. Occasionally after mowing I'll look outside
and off in the distance I'll see where I missed one blade of grass,
I'll not hesitate to walk out with a pair of scissors, I gotta or I
won't sleep that night.

>Occasionally I'm too busy to do things
>sequentially and I have to do them simultaneously.

Sounds like you'd enjoy it but I don't think I'd enjoy sex with you
while you're knitting and you holler Wait, I dropped a stitch! LOL

Cindy Hamilton > wrote in
:

>> They are also
>> saying that the average restaurant meal is $20 per person. I
>> never pay that much either.
>
> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a
> place like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially
> easy to manage at a sushi bar.

20$ average is not saying much. What you need to know is what
the least and most amount spent is with the median, which is not
the same thing as the average (or mean). But people generally
don't think in those terms. They don't ask for the indepth
analysis.

Also you would need to know WHAT they are eating and the amount of
food in each case. If the bulk are cheeseburgers with fries and
the price varies from 4,00$ at Wendy's to 55$ at a more upscale
restaurant...

--

"If you are neutral in situations of injustice,
you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

On 6/22/2015 2:55 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:53:58 -0400, Doris Night
> > wrote:
>
>> My husband does that all the time. Makes his sandwich and stands there
>> eating it.
>
> I did that just this morning and called it brunch. Half a sandwich:
> deli sliced ham + arugula. Maybe it should be renamed a "standwich".

During tomato season, I have been known to eat tomato on pita
with mayo standing right over the sink. It ain't pretty but
it's so good.

I like that, standwich.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>During tomato season, I have been known to eat tomato on pita
>with mayo standing right over the sink. It ain't pretty but
>it's so good.
>
>I like that, standwich.

During tomato season I've been known to eat as I pick... freshly
picked vine ripened warm from the sun, so good.

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-6, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/22/2015 3:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
> > interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying
> > that in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that
> > we didn't prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the
> > counter or we eat while talking on the phone or while on the street. I
> > don't recall ever eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't
> > recall eating anything at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite
> > of something. And I do mean literally one bite. I had to stop making
> > apple crisp. I loved it so much that every time I went into the
> > kitchen, I took a bite. They are also saying that the average restaurant
> > meal is $20 per person. I never pay that much either.
> >
> > But the real shocker is France! They say that the are 2nd in the world
> > in having the most McDonalds with the US being first. Frozen food is
> > gaining popularity there and over half of all restaurants serve frozen
> > food. They said that people assume it is freshly made but it is not. I
> > do know that most restaurants here serve frozen food. Perhaps not fine
> > dining places but the chain places do. And they said that most people
> > can not tell they are eating frozen food. Sadly, I do believe that part.
>
> Ah the life of illusions shattered, shards of demi-reality at our toes,
> sharp enough to cut, but numerous enough to be walked upon...

You're such a pretender...how can you stand yourself?

On 6/22/2015 5:41 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 11:46:57 AM UTC-6, La Mirada wrote:
>> On 6/22/2015 3:35 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I am watching part 1 of this show. Not sure when part 2 airs. It is
>>> interesting but I find some of this hard to believe. They are saying
>>> that in Western countries, most of us eat at least one meal a day that
>>> we didn't prepare and that we often eat sandwiches standing at the
>>> counter or we eat while talking on the phone or while on the street. I
>>> don't recall ever eating a sandwich at the counter. Not ever. I don't
>>> recall eating anything at the counter unless perhaps it was just a bite
>>> of something. And I do mean literally one bite. I had to stop making
>>> apple crisp. I loved it so much that every time I went into the
>>> kitchen, I took a bite. They are also saying that the average restaurant
>>> meal is $20 per person. I never pay that much either.
>>>
>>> But the real shocker is France! They say that the are 2nd in the world
>>> in having the most McDonalds with the US being first. Frozen food is
>>> gaining popularity there and over half of all restaurants serve frozen
>>> food. They said that people assume it is freshly made but it is not. I
>>> do know that most restaurants here serve frozen food. Perhaps not fine
>>> dining places but the chain places do. And they said that most people
>>> can not tell they are eating frozen food. Sadly, I do believe that part.
>>
>> Ah the life of illusions shattered, shards of demi-reality at our toes,
>> sharp enough to cut, but numerous enough to be walked upon...
>
> You're such a pretender...how can you stand yourself?
>
I listen to a lot of Chrissie Hynde albums; it works too.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:21:48 -0500, Michel Boucher wrote:
>
>> Cindy Hamilton > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>> They are also
>>>> saying that the average restaurant meal is $20 per person. I
>>>> never pay that much either.
>>>
>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a
>>> place like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially
>>> easy to manage at a sushi bar.
>>
>> 20$ average is not saying much. What you need to know is what
>> the least and most amount spent is with the median, which is not
>> the same thing as the average (or mean). But people generally
>> don't think in those terms. They don't ask for the indepth
>> analysis.
>>
>> Also you would need to know WHAT they are eating and the amount of
>> food in each case. If the bulk are cheeseburgers with fries and
>> the price varies from 4,00$ at Wendy's to 55$ at a more upscale
>> restaurant...
>
> Knowing that the average restaurant bill is $20 is all I need to know.
> It's a perfectly good statistic for my purposes and I'm just fine with
> it. You want it broken down by individual customer order and the
> weight of the food?
>
> Sheesh.
>
> -sw

I think the median statistic is generally far more informative than the
average. Ditto with taxes, income levels, etc. A few hundred dollar meals
can skew the average of many four dollar meals.

But actually - I don't care what people pay for their food. Or why they eat
kale.

Sqwerty wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:08:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > Occasionally after mowing I'll look outside
> > and off in the distance I'll see where I missed one blade of grass,
> > I'll not hesitate to walk out with a pair of scissors, I gotta or I
> > won't sleep that night.
>
> About 25% of people with OCD also have severe sexual obsessions,
> usually deviant, and are most often linked with childhood sexual
> abuse.
>
> As we've seen, there's no question you suffer from both OCD and sexual
> obsessions. And we already know your brother is over-the-top *** as
> Gregory Morrow. So tell us about your father, Sheldon.


Who knew!? So, Steve, do you have green skin and live under a toadstool like all good little garden gnomes do...???


> ObFood: Chili dogs with shredded cheddar and French fried onions.


PHEW...!!! Do you go down to the Houston Ship Channel to emit all of your intestinal gas, Steve...???


--
Best
Greg

On 6/23/2015 7:54 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> So add another $4-5 on top of
> that.
>
> -sw
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 6/23/2015 7:59 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You want it broken down by individual customer order and the
> weight of the food?
>
> Sheesh.
>
> -sw
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 6/23/2015 8:15 AM, Dr. Sqwertz PsyD, ABPP wrote:
> there's no question you suffer from both OCD and sexual
> obsessions.
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 6/23/2015 8:57 AM, Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Sqwerty wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:08:54 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> Occasionally after mowing I'll look outside
>>> and off in the distance I'll see where I missed one blade of grass,
>>> I'll not hesitate to walk out with a pair of scissors, I gotta or I
>>> won't sleep that night.
>>
>> About 25% of people with OCD also have severe sexual obsessions,
>> usually deviant, and are most often linked with childhood sexual
>> abuse.
>>
>> As we've seen, there's no question you suffer from both OCD and sexual
>> obsessions. And we already know your brother is over-the-top *** as
>> Gregory Morrow. So tell us about your father, Sheldon.
>
>
> Who knew!? So, Steve, do you have green skin and live under a toadstool like all good little garden gnomes do...???
>
>
>> ObFood: Chili dogs with shredded cheddar and French fried onions.
>
>
> PHEW...!!! Do you go down to the Houston Ship Channel to emit all of your intestinal gas, Steve...???
>
>
ROFLOL!!!!

On 6/23/2015 9:54 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>> at a sushi bar.
>
> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
> that.

It's so easy to spend $40 for two on dinner, even at lunch sometimes.
Lunch is $13 or $14 each, not that there aren't cheaper options on
the menu but that's not usually what I order. Right there you're
almost at $30, add a beer and iced tea. Then you add 6 or 7 for a tip,
$40 is easy as pie to reach ... that that isn't including pie. Or an
appetizer.

It was a lot harder to spend that much on lunch 20 years ago. Prices
go up over time, just like for everything else.

nancy

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
> > >> at a sushi bar.
> > >
> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
> > > that.
> >
> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>
> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> diner probably eats like that.
>

Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?


--

sf

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>> > >> manage
>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>> > >
>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> > > that.
>> >
>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>
>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>> diner probably eats like that.
>>
>
> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?

Why? We don't! Depends on your idea of fun I suppose.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:42:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>> at a sushi bar.
>>
>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> that.
>
>We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.

You've made it abundantly clear over the years that you and your
family are exceptions to normal eating, so what the point of your
replying like this all the time?

On 6/23/2015 3:01 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:42:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>>> at a sushi bar.
>>>
>>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>>> that.
>>
>> We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>
> You've made it abundantly clear over the years that you and your
> family are exceptions to normal eating, so what the point of your
> replying like this all the time?
>


What's the point in your calling attention that?

Do you really think she's going to modify their preferences to suit your
complaints?

I suggest you offer her lessons in how to kill and cook rabbits, or tips
on the home-distillation of spirits.

You've got some chops - start sharing them!

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 1:36:19 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
> > > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
> > > >> at a sushi bar.
> > > >
> > > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
> > > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
> > > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
> > > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
> > > > that.
> > >
> > > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
> >
> > If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> > diner probably eats like that.
> >
>
> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>
>
> --
>
> sf



Absolutely! We do so many fun things it would make most peoples' heads spin, and some weeks it makes my own head spin : )

But yes, eating out is fun, sometimes with a group of friends, sometimes another couple, or just the DH and I.

We eat out close to home, but more often than not we are elsewhere enjoying some advent rue or other and eating out, whether breakfast, lunch, or dinner, becomes part of the fun.

Nellie

On 6/23/2015 3:52 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>>> at a sushi bar.
>>>
>>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>>> that.
>>
>> We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>
> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> diner probably eats like that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

We can easily drop $100 when we go you to eat. The entree is $20 - $30.
Top that with a bottle of wine and you are close to $100. We don't
usually order an appetizer or dessert but if we do we share it.

Rusty in MD

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:41:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
> >> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
> >> > >> manage
> >> > >> at a sushi bar.
> >> > >
> >> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
> >> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
> >> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
> >> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
> >> > > that.
> >> >
> >> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
> >>
> >> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> >> diner probably eats like that.
> >>
> >
> > Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
> > or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>
> Why? We don't! Depends on your idea of fun I suppose.

Save your money and don't eat out.


--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room.

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:36:13 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>> > >
>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> > > that.
>> >
>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>
>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>> diner probably eats like that.
>>
>
>Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
>or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?

We always choose an appetizer (probably to share) -- that's quite
often where you get to try something special.
Janet US

On 6/23/2015 4:41 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>


>>> > >
>>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>>> > >> manage
>>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>>> > >
>>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I
>>> NEVER
>>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on
>>> top of
>>> > > that.
>>> >
>>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>>
>>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>>> diner probably eats like that.
>>>
>>
>> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
>> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>
> Why? We don't! Depends on your idea of fun I suppose.
>

With us, it depends. Sometimes we eat at a restaurant for convenience
of not cooking after a day out. No bar tab, maybe a cup of soup first,
no dessert. Typical bill for the two of us is in the $30 range. Could
be a local place or one of the chains.

Other times, eating at a nice restaurant is the reason to go.
Appetizer, bottle of wine, dessert. Typical bill is $100+. This is
never at a chain, only the nicer local places.

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:25:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 6/23/2015 4:41 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>
>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>>>> > >> manage
>>>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I
>>>> NEVER
>>>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on
>>>> top of
>>>> > > that.
>>>> >
>>>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>>>
>>>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>>>> diner probably eats like that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
>>> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>>
>> Why? We don't! Depends on your idea of fun I suppose.
>>
>
>With us, it depends. Sometimes we eat at a restaurant for convenience
>of not cooking after a day out. No bar tab, maybe a cup of soup first,
>no dessert. Typical bill for the two of us is in the $30 range. Could
>be a local place or one of the chains.
>
>Other times, eating at a nice restaurant is the reason to go.
>Appetizer, bottle of wine, dessert. Typical bill is $100+. This is
>never at a chain, only the nicer local places.

Same with us. Very occasionally we'll eat lunch somewhere if we happen
to be away from home and we're both hungry. It's usually in the $30-40
range. We try to avoid McDonalds and the like.

But if we go out specifically for a nice dinner, it might run $120 or
so. We pick the restaurant based on reputation and our past
experience, and we check the menu online in advance to make sure we
want what is offered.

We are very fortunate in that there are a number of excellent fine
dining restaurants in our area, and also that we can afford to eat at
them two or three times a year.

Doris

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>> >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>> >> at a sushi bar.
>> >
>> > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> > that.
>>
>> We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>
> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> diner probably eats like that.

Dinners were we eat are usually $12 or less, not including drink. My food
is usually on the less side.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>> > >> manage
>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>> > >
>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> > > that.
>> >
>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>
>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>> diner probably eats like that.
>>
>
> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?

I don't happen to find eating unhealthy food or getting fat fun. Now if
they have raw veggies on the menu then I will for sure order those! We all
like those. But I only know of one place who offers those. I have never
been a dessert person.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>> > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>>> > >> manage
>>> > >> at a sushi bar.
>>> > >
>>> > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>> > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>> > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I
>>> > > NEVER
>>> > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top
>>> > > of
>>> > > that.
>>> >
>>> > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>>
>>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>>> diner probably eats like that.
>>>
>>
>> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
>> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>
> Why? We don't! Depends on your idea of fun I suppose.

At this point I mostly only go out to eat to socialize. Not for the food.
Exceptions would be a few Mexican places that serve stuff that is truly
better than I can make at home. Although I do come close.

"Nellie" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 1:36:19 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a
>> > > >> place
>> > > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
>> > > >> manage
>> > > >> at a sushi bar.
>> > > >
>> > > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> > > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> > > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I
>> > > > NEVER
>> > > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top
>> > > > of
>> > > > that.
>> > >
>> > > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>> >
>> > If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>> > diner probably eats like that.
>> >
>>
>> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
>> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
>
>
> Absolutely! We do so many fun things it would make most peoples' heads
> spin, and some weeks it makes my own head spin : )
>
> But yes, eating out is fun, sometimes with a group of friends, sometimes
> another couple, or just the DH and I.
>
> We eat out close to home, but more often than not we are elsewhere
> enjoying some advent rue or other and eating out, whether breakfast,
> lunch, or dinner, becomes part of the fun.

I suppose it might be nice to have enough spare time to do a lot of fun
things. I guess I'll never know. I am too busy doing necessary things.

"Rusty" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/23/2015 3:52 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>>>> at a sushi bar.
>>>>
>>>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>>>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>>
>> If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
>> diner probably eats like that.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> We can easily drop $100 when we go you to eat. The entree is $20 - $30.
> Top that with a bottle of wine and you are close to $100. We don't
> usually order an appetizer or dessert but if we do we share it.

Holy cow! I would seriously try to avoid any place where the entrees were
that price. I do recall eating at the Hunt Club many years ago. The food
was good. Just not my kind of food because it was all meat or fish. I was
just uncomfortable being there and did not have a good time. I hate, hate,
hate getting dressed up and I hate feeling like I am continually going to be
doing something wrong. Those sorts of places just make me feel like I
might.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/23/2015 9:54 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>> at a sushi bar.
>>
>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>> that.
>
> It's so easy to spend $40 for two on dinner, even at lunch sometimes.
> Lunch is $13 or $14 each, not that there aren't cheaper options on
> the menu but that's not usually what I order. Right there you're
> almost at $30, add a beer and iced tea. Then you add 6 or 7 for a tip,
> $40 is easy as pie to reach ... that that isn't including pie. Or an
> appetizer.
>
> It was a lot harder to spend that much on lunch 20 years ago. Prices
> go up over time, just like for everything else.

Wow! Not where we eat. Lunch is more like $6-8 unless you order steak or
some other dish with a large piece of meat. The portions are small for
those prices but I like small.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:42:04 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a place
>>>> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to manage
>>>> at a sushi bar.
>>>
>>> $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
>>> alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
>>> 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I NEVER
>>> do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top of
>>> that.
>>
>>We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
>
> You've made it abundantly clear over the years that you and your
> family are exceptions to normal eating, so what the point of your
> replying like this all the time?

It's not just me. My friends rarely order those things either. Last time,
my friend did get pie but only because it came with her lunch. I have dined
out with countless people and they rarely order appetizer or dessert. They
do often have coffee after dinner though.

On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 9:35:32 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Nellie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 1:36:19 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> >> > > ...
> >> > > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 08:16:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Does $20 include the bar tab? $20 is easy enough to hit at a
> >> > > >> place
> >> > > >> like Applebee's if you drink alcohol. $20 is trivially easy to
> >> > > >> manage
> >> > > >> at a sushi bar.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > $20 at a full service casual restaurant is very normal even without
> >> > > > alcohol. Split appetizer $3.00, entree $12, soda $2.50, plus tax =
> >> > > > 19.00. And then some people just HAVE to have dessert (which I
> >> > > > NEVER
> >> > > > do at restaurants - along with sodas). So add another $4-5 on top
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > that.
> >> > >
> >> > > We just don't eat like that. Rarely an appetizer and never dessert.
> >> >
> >> > If the average price of a restaurant meal is $20, then the average
> >> > diner probably eats like that.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Agree! Where's the fun of eating out if you can't spit an appetizer
> >> or dessert when those are treats you don't usually indulge in at home?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> sf
> >
> >
> >
> > Absolutely! We do so many fun things it would make most peoples' heads
> > spin, and some weeks it makes my own head spin : )
> >
> > But yes, eating out is fun, sometimes with a group of friends, sometimes
> > another couple, or just the DH and I.
> >
> > We eat out close to home, but more often than not we are elsewhere
> > enjoying some advent rue or other and eating out, whether breakfast,
> > lunch, or dinner, becomes part of the fun.
>
> I suppose it might be nice to have enough spare time to do a lot of fun
> things. I guess I'll never know. I am too busy doing necessary things.



Oooooh " Bitter, party of one, Bitter"

Somehow I don't think doing necessary things is what's stopping you from doing fun things.

Nellie

On 6/24/2015 12:39 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


>> We can easily drop $100 when we go you to eat. The entree is $20 - $30.
>> Top that with a bottle of wine and you are close to $100. We don't
>> usually order an appetizer or dessert but if we do we share it.
>
> Holy cow! I would seriously try to avoid any place where the entrees
> were that price. I do recall eating at the Hunt Club many years ago.
> The food was good. Just not my kind of food because it was all meat or
> fish. I was just uncomfortable being there and did not have a good
> time. I hate, hate, hate getting dressed up and I hate feeling like I
> am continually going to be doing something wrong. Those sorts of places
> just make me feel like I might.


I look for places like that. Being semi-retired, Wednesday is our day
to go out and have fun. It is usually a late lunch or dinner at a very
nice restaurant. The really good places will easily be $25 for an
exceptional entree. A bottle of wine is usually $30-40.
A couple of our favorite places.
http://www.alicantema.com/
http://85main.com/

These days you don't have to be all dressed up either. Chinos or nice
shorts are very acceptable an place for lunch or hot weather.