I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!

I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and lemon
water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the
candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?

I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag so
quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in there.

Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out and
washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
>I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>
>I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and lemon
>water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the
>candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>
>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag so
>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in there.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out and
>washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
>just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.

Add and mix some shredded newspaper or cardboard, dry leaves or other
dry material throughout all the wet stuff. Maybe buy a bag of lime and
throw a handful into the compost each time you throw a bucket of
scraps in there - that will help. I've no idea what 'biobags' are, or
whether they make my advice redundant or not. The basic problem is a
lack of aeration - all that wet food and grass cuttings can't
decompose due to lack of air flow and can't get rid of the moisture.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>As
>>I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>>have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>>
>>I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>lemon
>>water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>>organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>the
>>candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>>Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>
>>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>so
>>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>there.
>>
>>Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>and
>>washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
>>just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>
> Add and mix some shredded newspaper or cardboard, dry leaves or other
> dry material throughout all the wet stuff. Maybe buy a bag of lime and
> throw a handful into the compost each time you throw a bucket of
> scraps in there - that will help. I've no idea what 'biobags' are, or
> whether they make my advice redundant or not. The basic problem is a
> lack of aeration - all that wet food and grass cuttings can't
> decompose due to lack of air flow and can't get rid of the moisture.

I have no newspaper and am not going to buy it. I also don't think I can
put that in there or cardboard, unless I have a pizza box and I rarely have
one of those. Biobags are biodegradable bags. And there wouldn't be any
aeration in a bin like this. It's merely a waste bin. Not a compost heap.
Not sure I can put lime in there either but I will check. That would be
really bad if I have to buy that on top of the Biobags just to get rid of
stuff.

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>
> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and lemon
> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the
> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>
> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag so
> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in there.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out and
> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.

You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as you describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.

I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
a thing and BUY one.

This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
===

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
> As
> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>
> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
> lemon
> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
> the
> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>
> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
> so
> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
> there.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
> and
> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.

You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as you
describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.

I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
a thing and BUY one.

This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
===

No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put it
in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste is
composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.

In article >,
Roy > wrote:

> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall
> > anyway. As I have said before, we are required to compost food
> > scraps now and I don't have a compost pile or need or want one so I
> > put the scraps in the yard waste bin. But we are having a long
> > stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
> >
> > I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet
> > grass clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it
> > smelled like liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was
> > lemon rinds/slices and other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been
> > making a lot of smoothies and lemon water. I also tossed out some
> > candy that I bought for myself only to discover that I couldn't eat
> > it and nobody else I know likes it. They're organic candies that
> > are akin to gum drops. And while the candies themselves do not
> > contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the candies
> > will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
> > Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
> >
> > I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in
> > Biobags, I don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat
> > through a Biobag so quickly that I can't always get it out to the
> > bin before I have a hole in the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and
> > slices went right straight in there.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin
> > out and washing it out are not working for me as someone else who
> > lives here will just put the stuff right back in the bin and close
> > the lid.
>
> You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS
> THE PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone
> else" as you describe the unknown person that inhabits your house,
> has no other alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>
> I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for
> such a thing and BUY one.
>
> This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste. ===

one wonders what might happen if she called the waste people and asked
them what she could do about this "problem"

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>> As
>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>>
>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>> lemon
>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>> the
>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>
>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>> so
>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>> there.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>> and
>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>
>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as you
>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>
>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>a thing and BUY one.
>
>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>===
>
>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put it
>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste is
>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.

So problem solved then.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:51:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>>As
>>>I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>>>have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>>waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>>>
>>>I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>>other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>lemon
>>>water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>>>organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>>the
>>>candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>>>Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>
>>>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>>>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>>so
>>>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>>>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>there.
>>>
>>>Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>>and
>>>washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here will
>>>just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>
>> Add and mix some shredded newspaper or cardboard, dry leaves or other
>> dry material throughout all the wet stuff. Maybe buy a bag of lime and
>> throw a handful into the compost each time you throw a bucket of
>> scraps in there - that will help. I've no idea what 'biobags' are, or
>> whether they make my advice redundant or not. The basic problem is a
>> lack of aeration - all that wet food and grass cuttings can't
>> decompose due to lack of air flow and can't get rid of the moisture.
>
>I have no newspaper and am not going to buy it. I also don't think I can
>put that in there or cardboard, unless I have a pizza box and I rarely have
>one of those. Biobags are biodegradable bags. And there wouldn't be any
>aeration in a bin like this. It's merely a waste bin. Not a compost heap.
>Not sure I can put lime in there either but I will check. That would be
>really bad if I have to buy that on top of the Biobags just to get rid of
>stuff.

Yep. Nice work.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:51:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>>>As
>>>>I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>>>don't
>>>>have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>>>waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>>>weather!
>>>>
>>>>I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>>clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>>liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>>>other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>>lemon
>>>>water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>>discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>>>They're
>>>>organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>>themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>>>the
>>>>candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>>>crystals.
>>>>Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>>
>>>>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>>>I
>>>>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>>>so
>>>>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>>>in
>>>>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>>there.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>>>and
>>>>washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>>>will
>>>>just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>>
>>> Add and mix some shredded newspaper or cardboard, dry leaves or other
>>> dry material throughout all the wet stuff. Maybe buy a bag of lime and
>>> throw a handful into the compost each time you throw a bucket of
>>> scraps in there - that will help. I've no idea what 'biobags' are, or
>>> whether they make my advice redundant or not. The basic problem is a
>>> lack of aeration - all that wet food and grass cuttings can't
>>> decompose due to lack of air flow and can't get rid of the moisture.
>>
>>I have no newspaper and am not going to buy it. I also don't think I can
>>put that in there or cardboard, unless I have a pizza box and I rarely
>>have
>>one of those. Biobags are biodegradable bags. And there wouldn't be any
>>aeration in a bin like this. It's merely a waste bin. Not a compost
>>heap.
>>Not sure I can put lime in there either but I will check. That would be
>>really bad if I have to buy that on top of the Biobags just to get rid of
>>stuff.
>
> Yep. Nice work.

I am doing what we are supposed to do. All of my neighbors use those bins.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>> As
>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>> don't
>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>> weather!
>>>
>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>> lemon
>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>> They're
>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>> the
>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>> crystals.
>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>
>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>> I
>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>> so
>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>> in
>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>> and
>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>> will
>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>
>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>you
>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>
>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>a thing and BUY one.
>>
>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>===
>>
>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>it
>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>is
>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>
> So problem solved then.

Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
problems with fruit flies before but never this.

On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't

LOL @ "required to compost food scraps"....really? Do they come around and check your plates after every meal?

On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
> problems with fruit flies before but never this.

Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
it again.

Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" wrote:
> > So problem solved then.
>
> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
> problems with fruit flies before but never this.

So how often do they pick up your trash (bio-bin), Julie? You said you
are supposed to compost it but then you said you didn't have to do
that. ?

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-6, Miss Kitty wrote:
> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
> > I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>
> LOL @ "required to compost food scraps"....really? Do they come around and check your plates after every meal?

A multitude of practical solutions for her "problem"...how many will be
tried? Answer...NONE.
Won't work, can't work, will not do that, would never do that, have no
use for that, never had this problem before, I don't do what I should do
but that shouldn't matter...and on and on and on.
=====

On 6/26/2015 9:31 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-6, Miss Kitty wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>>
>> LOL @ "required to compost food scraps"....really? Do they come around and check your plates after every meal?
>
> A multitude of practical solutions for her "problem"...how many will be
> tried? Answer...NONE.
> Won't work, can't work, will not do that, would never do that, have no
> use for that, never had this problem before, I don't do what I should do
> but that shouldn't matter...and on and on and on.
> =====
>
Range Rd. 64A

Vermillion, Alberta.

On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
>I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
>have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>
>I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and lemon
>water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it. They're
>organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the
>candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>
>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags, I
>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag so
>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in there.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions?

You have a back yard, no excuse to not have a composter... I have a 1
gallon stainless steel bucket with lid on my kitchen counter, on
average it fills up once a week and gets dumped in my composter, not a
lot of effort involved and with just kitchen scraps it can be two
three years before you need to empty the composter, and that's not
much effort either, the one I have just lifts right off the composted
material. Set the composter in a new spot and start over. Rake the
composted materal and shovel that which isn't fully composted back
into the composter. I shovel my compost into five gallon contractor's
buckets to dry out, then use it for gardening.
I have this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Algreen-Produc...rds=composters
This is the only composter with a 25 year manufacturer's warranty...
I've been using mine for almost thirty years and is still as good as
new. I bought mine from a different company but now Amazon has the
lowest price. Don't bother with wire mesh on the bottom, will just
cause grief when emptying. I don't bother with the little doors at
the bottom nor do I bother stirring or using any starter chemical...
you'll know when it's ready to empty, just lift it off the compost
pile, lifts off very easily... any normal three year old can lift it
so you, the can't-do princess has no excuse. It's made from
relatively thick plastic but it's extremely light weight yet strong. I
believe it's made in Canada. My next door neighbor bought a
$600 composter, one of those fancy gear driven rotating drums on a
fancy stand. When he showed it to me I told him it wouldn't work,
that off the ground it cannot compost, all it can do is ferment (rot
n' stchink). After the first summer he admitted I was right, and so
he bought a composter like mine and he's very happy with it. I keep
telling people that composting must be done on the ground so the micro
organisms that do the composting have access to the organic matter...
worms play no part in composting, none whatsoever, buying worms for
composting is a waste of money and most of the worms will die. Earth
worms feed on the micro organisms, NOT the organic matter one is
composting.... I've yet to see an earthworm inside my composter...
earthworms will be in the soil around the compster but they are
feeding on micro organisms in the soil that are attracted to the
organic matter, NOT the organic material one is attempting to compost.
That earthworms are needed to compost is worse than a myth, it's a big
fat LIE!.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-6, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/26/2015 9:31 AM, Roy wrote:
> > On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 7:31:36 AM UTC-6, Miss Kitty wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway. As
> >>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I don't
> >>
> >> LOL @ "required to compost food scraps"....really? Do they come around and check your plates after every meal?
> >
> > A multitude of practical solutions for her "problem"...how many will be
> > tried? Answer...NONE.
> > Won't work, can't work, will not do that, would never do that, have no
> > use for that, never had this problem before, I don't do what I should do
> > but that shouldn't matter...and on and on and on.
> > =====
> >
> Range Rd. 64A
>
> Vermillion, Alberta.

You were expecting the "Kremlin" perhaps? Vermilion has one "l" not
two FYI.
====

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 02:56:55 -0700, Malcom Mal Reynolds
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Roy > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall
>> > anyway. As I have said before, we are required to compost food
>> > scraps now and I don't have a compost pile or need or want one so I
>> > put the scraps in the yard waste bin. But we are having a long
>> > stretch of unseasonable hot weather!
>> >
>> > I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet
>> > grass clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it
>> > smelled like liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was
>> > lemon rinds/slices and other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been
>> > making a lot of smoothies and lemon water. I also tossed out some
>> > candy that I bought for myself only to discover that I couldn't eat
>> > it and nobody else I know likes it. They're organic candies that
>> > are akin to gum drops. And while the candies themselves do not
>> > contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that the candies
>> > will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar crystals.
>> > Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>> >
>> > I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in
>> > Biobags, I don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat
>> > through a Biobag so quickly that I can't always get it out to the
>> > bin before I have a hole in the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and
>> > slices went right straight in there.
>> >
>> > Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin
>> > out and washing it out are not working for me as someone else who
>> > lives here will just put the stuff right back in the bin and close
>> > the lid.
>>
>> You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS
>> THE PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone
>> else" as you describe the unknown person that inhabits your house,
>> has no other alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>
>> I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for
>> such a thing and BUY one.
>>
>> This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste. ===
>
>one wonders what might happen if she called the waste people and asked
>them what she could do about this "problem"

They'll tell her to use two bio-bags... one for the garbage and one to
tie over her head! I bet yoose thought I was going to say to double
bag. LOL

I never heard of Bio-Bags for wet trash... in some NY surburban areas
the trash collection companys hand out huge paper bags for leaf and
grass clipping collection... the paper bags compost along with their
contents. Seems dumb to use water soluable bags for wet garbage.
Most of the trash I put out is used cat litter. Paper/cardboard,
plastics, metals, glass, and other recyclables go in a separate bin.
About the only food trash I put out are meat bones and a few other non
compostable items. All food garbage either gets fed to critters or is
composted. Other than pure laziness I see no reason the Bove can't
compost her wet trash.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
news
> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
> it again.

Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe respiratory
problems.
>
> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.

That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that would
likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
kinds this year.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>> > So problem solved then.
>>
>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> So how often do they pick up your trash (bio-bin), Julie? You said you
> are supposed to compost it but then you said you didn't have to do
> that. ?

The food waste is to be composted but we do not have to have our own compost
pile. If we do not have our own (and from the looks of it, no one does), we
are to put it in the green bin and it is picked up weekly.

This is not normally a problem but we are having freak hot weather and it's
only getting worse. Farmer's Almanac said it was to be cooler than usual
with a high of 67. It is 84 today and will be in, over or around the 90's
for the next 10 days. That is highly unusual for this area. If we do get
that kind of heat it is not usually until August, aside from a rare day here
and there.

I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that. I think it
is the heat that is causing things to ferment. We don't normally go through
fruit like we are now either.

"Miss Kitty" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 10:56:57 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>> As
>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>> don't
>
> LOL @ "required to compost food scraps"....really? Do they come around
> and check your plates after every meal?

No but they check the bins every so often.

On 6/26/2015 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>
>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and
>> wash it again.
>
> Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
> respiratory problems.
>>
>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>
> That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in.
> I can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies
> and quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with
> some sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then
> that would likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with
> bugs of all kinds this year.

Never heard of pesticides?

Jill

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:56:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall anyway.
>>>> As
>>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>>> don't
>>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the yard
>>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>>> weather!
>>>>
>>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices and
>>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>> lemon
>>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>>> They're
>>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so that
>>>> the
>>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>>> crystals.
>>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>>
>>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>>> I
>>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>>> so
>>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>>> in
>>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin out
>>>> and
>>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>>> will
>>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>>
>>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>>you
>>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>>
>>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>>a thing and BUY one.
>>>
>>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>>===
>>>
>>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>>it
>>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>>is
>>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>>
>> So problem solved then.
>
>Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>problems with fruit flies before but never this.

I was being sarcastic, obviously.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>news
>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>
>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
>> it again.
>
>Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe respiratory
>problems.
>>
>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>
>That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
>can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
>quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
>sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that would
>likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
>kinds this year.

You've been told how to solve the problem - but you don't want to
actually do it. You appear to be looking for a magical or supernatural
solution that requires little to no effort, and not one that will
actually result in effectively solving the problem.

And despite your protestations, NO reason you couldn't do what I
suggested. You can't find free newspaper, cardboard or dry leaves?
Really???

Washing the bin out (or whatever it is) is an exercise in futility if
you don't address the core problem.

So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
per usual.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.

Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.

I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
washed out and put back in the freezer.

I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
month.

Doris

On 6/26/2015 7:49 PM, wrote:
> So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
> per usual.


Which, if by any stretch true, you are oh so willing to provide, you
rabbit-killing hypocrite.

On 6/26/2015 8:48 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:43:28 -0600, La Mirada > wrote:
>
>> On 6/26/2015 7:49 PM, wrote:
>>> So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
>>> per usual.
>>
>>
>> Which, if by any stretch true, you are oh so willing to provide, you
>> rabbit-killing hypocrite.
>
> Don't you eat meat?
>
Don't you lie regularly?

On 6/26/2015 9:55 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You can respond with some bullshit excuses but I probably wont see it
> or will dismiss it as absurd (piggybacking already). So don't bother.
>
> -sw


You should be shot and put down as a woman-hating *******, soon!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 6/26/2015 5:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have
>>>> had
>>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>>
>>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and
>>> wash it again.
>>
>> Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
>> respiratory problems.
>>>
>>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>>
>> That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in.
>> I can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies
>> and quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with
>> some sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then
>> that would likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with
>> bugs of all kinds this year.
>
> Never heard of pesticides?

I suppose those are blatantly used where you live. Here, we try not to use
them. I do have to use them on occasion though.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:56:35 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 01:13:59 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Roy" > wrote in message
...
>>>>On Thursday, June 25, 2015 at 9:56:57 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I haven't really had this problem before. Not that I can recall
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>> As
>>>>> I have said before, we are required to compost food scraps now and I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have a compost pile or need or want one so I put the scraps in the
>>>>> yard
>>>>> waste bin. But we are having a long stretch of unseasonable hot
>>>>> weather!
>>>>>
>>>>> I attempted to clean the bin out last week because the super wet grass
>>>>> clippings made it smell like a cow pasture. But today it smelled like
>>>>> liquor! Most of what was stuck to the bottom was lemon rinds/slices
>>>>> and
>>>>> other fruit/vegetable scraps. I've been making a lot of smoothies and
>>>>> lemon
>>>>> water. I also tossed out some candy that I bought for myself only to
>>>>> discover that I couldn't eat it and nobody else I know likes it.
>>>>> They're
>>>>> organic candies that are akin to gum drops. And while the candies
>>>>> themselves do not contain corn, they put cornstarch in the molds so
>>>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> candies will plop out easier. The candies are covered in sugar
>>>>> crystals.
>>>>> Could the sugary candy have been the culprit here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in
>>>>> Biobags,
>>>>> I
>>>>> don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a
>>>>> Biobag
>>>>> so
>>>>> quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole
>>>>> in
>>>>> the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any suggestions? Trying to dump the remains of the bin
>>>>> out
>>>>> and
>>>>> washing it out are not working for me as someone else who lives here
>>>>> will
>>>>> just put the stuff right back in the bin and close the lid.
>>>>
>>>>You are required to have a composter but refuse to buy one. THERE IS THE
>>>>PROBLEM...you refuse to play by the rules. And...that "someone else" as
>>>>you
>>>>describe the unknown person that inhabits your house, has no other
>>>>alternative but to make the best of a bad situation.
>>>>
>>>>I see composters for sale quite often...perhaps you might watch for such
>>>>a thing and BUY one.
>>>>
>>>>This might solve your problem of home brewing of your waste.
>>>>===
>>>>
>>>>No. I am not required to have a composter. I can either compost or put
>>>>it
>>>>in the yards waste. I have no need whatever for compost. My yard waste
>>>>is
>>>>composted elsewhere. I think the problem is the hot weather.
>>>
>>> So problem solved then.
>>
>>Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have had
>>problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>
> I was being sarcastic, obviously.

Not obviously.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On 6/26/2015 6:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardly. I have to smell the stink each time I open the bin! I have
>>>> had
>>>> problems with fruit flies before but never this.
>>>
>>> Once emptied, wash it out with a hose, then put a little bleach and wash
>>> it again.
>>
>>Is there something else that would work? Bleach gives me severe
>>respiratory
>>problems.
>>>
>>> Let the garbage dry a little before adding it to the bin.
>>
>>That's what I had tried to do. But someone else put it right back in. I
>>can't keep the food in the house now because it is drawing fruit flies and
>>quickly stinking in the heat. But maybe I will have to come up with some
>>sort of other, smaller bin to put outside and dry out. But then that
>>would
>>likely draw ants or something. We are having problems with bugs of all
>>kinds this year.
>
> You've been told how to solve the problem - but you don't want to
> actually do it. You appear to be looking for a magical or supernatural
> solution that requires little to no effort, and not one that will
> actually result in effectively solving the problem.

He told me to use bleach. But I can not do that. Two days worth of chest
pains is not worth it to me.
>
> And despite your protestations, NO reason you couldn't do what I
> suggested. You can't find free newspaper, cardboard or dry leaves?
> Really???

There very much is a reason. I did say that bleach causes me severe
respiratory problems.
>
> Washing the bin out (or whatever it is) is an exercise in futility if
> you don't address the core problem.

My husband?
>
> So WTF is the point of this thread... attention-seeking trolling, as
> per usual.

No. This was something new to me. And my friend who lives in a different
but nearby city said that she too is having this problem for the first time
ever.

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.
>
> Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
> I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
> keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.

There isn't much food in there. There is a lot of ice. And I have the
frozen treats because it's very hot here. We need them.
>
> I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
> non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
> I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
> washed out and put back in the freezer.

What is non-compostable food waste? Everything we have here is compostable
except for fat and I rarely ever have that.
>
> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
> we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
> compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
> scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
> scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
> month.

Bones and scraps are fine here. We do have coyotes. We generally have a
full can when my husband is home. We can't recycle lids and I often get
things like Styrofoam that I can't recycle.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:56:52 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> ....
>>>I should also add that while we are supposed to put the food in Biobags,
>>>I
>>>don't always do that. Reason being, wet foods will eat through a Biobag
>>>so
>>>quickly that I can't always get it out to the bin before I have a hole in
>>>the bag. So those wet lemon rinds and slices went right straight in
>>>there.
> ..
>
> Looking at your city's Waste Management website, there is no
> requirement that Biobags be used at any time. And this supposed
> requirement has been the basis for at least 2 dozen of your
> long-winded, whiny complaints over the years. Could it be that you're
> just blowing smoke up people's asses making all that up so you'll have
> yet another thing to bitch about?
>
> http://wmnorthwest.com/bothell/yardwaste.html

And I am not in the city of Bothell. I am in unincorporated Snohomish
County. My address is Bothell but I am not in the city proper. I have said
that countless times.
>
> It also looks like you have at least a dozen options for biodegradable
> bags, should you CHOOSE to use them.
>
> http://wmnorthwest.com/guidelines/pd...stablebags.pdf

Again, doesn't apply. But yes, technically I could use other brands and
yet... That brand is the only one sold around here that I know of. Costco
carries them and they are cheaper there.
>
> And they will give you a free food scrap pails that you can use to
> temporarily hold food scraps before transport to the food/yard waste
> bin. No bags required.

Not here they won't. And I can't use those in the house because they
attract fruit flies. I tried one. You might recall my asking about it some
years ago. Now I just use a very small trash can and run the contents
outside several times a day at least at this time of year.
>
> You can respond with some bullshit excuses but I probably wont see it
> or will dismiss it as absurd (piggybacking already). So don't bother.

Not bullshit. You're just wrong again. As usual.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 10:42:31 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:

> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out,

That made me want to estimate how much I pay per bag. Not, you know,
to make you feel bad, but to get a feel for things.

We pay $17.02 per month (it's called out as a separate line item
on our water bill, but we don't have a choice about paying it).
We've been provided with a 95-gallon garbage can (on wheels) and
another that same size for recycling. They're picked up by a hydraulic
arm on the truck, but apparently if we have more than 95 gallons in
a single week, we can set bags next to the can and the driver will
get out and take care of it.

There's no requirement or incentive to compost or even to recycle.
We could put all of our recyclables into the garbage (and I'm sure
some people in our township do that). No penalty.

We typically generate three medium bags of trash per week, although
I'm going to round that up to four, because we often have a bag
or two from the workshop or garage.

So 17.02 / 4 = $4.26 per week, or about a buck a bag for us.

We generally fill the recycle bin about halfway up.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:55:56 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:

> He told me to use bleach. But I can not do that. Two days worth of chest
> pains is not worth it to me.

Have your daughter do it. She's old enough to do that chore.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:55:56 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> He told me to use bleach. But I can not do that. Two days worth of
>> chest
>> pains is not worth it to me.
>
> Have your daughter do it. She's old enough to do that chore.

Please don't tell me to tell my family members to do things. You all know
nothing of our situation here and I will not get into it here. And even if
someone did clean it out with bleach, I wouldn't be able to go near it or
even into my driveway where it is kept. So that's not an option.

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 10:42:31 PM UTC-4, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out,
>
> That made me want to estimate how much I pay per bag. Not, you know,
> to make you feel bad, but to get a feel for things.
>
> We pay $17.02 per month (it's called out as a separate line item
> on our water bill, but we don't have a choice about paying it).
> We've been provided with a 95-gallon garbage can (on wheels) and
> another that same size for recycling. They're picked up by a hydraulic
> arm on the truck, but apparently if we have more than 95 gallons in
> a single week, we can set bags next to the can and the driver will
> get out and take care of it.
>
> There's no requirement or incentive to compost or even to recycle.
> We could put all of our recyclables into the garbage (and I'm sure
> some people in our township do that). No penalty.
>
> We typically generate three medium bags of trash per week, although
> I'm going to round that up to four, because we often have a bag
> or two from the workshop or garage.
>
> So 17.02 / 4 = $4.26 per week, or about a buck a bag for us.
>
> We generally fill the recycle bin about halfway up.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Holy crap! Our normal bill is tons more than that! I had 4 bins of
recycling this week but that's more than usual. I got rid of some old cat
carriers and there was a lot of packing stuff in some boxes that large
things came in.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:42:22 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.
>
>Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
>I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
>keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.
>
>I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
>non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
>I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
>washed out and put back in the freezer.
>
>I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
>we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
>compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
>scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
>scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
>month.
>
>Doris

I toss all meat scraps outside, crows get them before I get back
inside... there are coyotes here too but they don't get a chance at
the meat scraps... the crows are way off in the distance atop the tall
spruce, watching for me to open the slider to my deck. In no time
there's a murder of crows picking up every bit and then they fly off
to gorge, crows are smart, they don't eat where they find food.

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 03:34:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:55:56 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> He told me to use bleach. But I can not do that. Two days worth of chest
>> pains is not worth it to me.
>
>Have your daughter do it. She's old enough to do that chore.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I wash trash cans with lavender scented Fabuloso... I use it to wash
cat litter pans too... a great cleanser and deodorizer. Chlorine
bleach fumes are very dangerous, no one should keep any in their home.
http://www.colgate.com/app/Colgate/U.../Fabuloso.cvsp

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 02:59:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Doris Night" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:00:15 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I know I have read about people in hot areas putting food waste in the
>>>freezer until trash day but I don't have the space to do that.
>>
>> Free up some space in your freezer by using some of the food in there.
>> I believe you have said you have a lot of "frozen treats" that you
>> keep for your family. I'd start by not replenishing that stockpile.
>
>There isn't much food in there. There is a lot of ice. And I have the
>frozen treats because it's very hot here. We need them.

Well then, get rid of some of the ice.

>> I have a storage container that I keep in my freezer for
>> non-compostable food waste. It gets emptied into the trash every time
>> I'm going to put out a bag of garbage, then the storage container gets
>> washed out and put back in the freezer.
>
>What is non-compostable food waste? Everything we have here is compostable
>except for fat and I rarely ever have that.

Non-compostable food waste is meat scraps and bones. My husband puts
all other organic waste on his compost pile.

>> I do this because we have to pay $3 per bag of garbage going out, and
>> we generate *very* little trash other than cat litter. We either
>> compost or recycle everything, but you can't compost meat bones and
>> scraps around here because it attracts coyotes. By freezing my meat
>> scraps, I can get away with only putting out a bag of garbage once a
>> month.
>
>Bones and scraps are fine here. We do have coyotes. We generally have a
>full can when my husband is home. We can't recycle lids and I often get
>things like Styrofoam that I can't recycle.

Why can't you recycle styrofoam and lids? They are perfectly fine to
recycle here.

Doris