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On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins wrote: >> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone that I >> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am curious, >> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >> >> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt their >> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from eating dogs >> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >> >> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >> >> Steve Perkins >> > > ching chong ping pong > http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. The World Animal Protection agency called the decision “shocking,” and vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to continue. |
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On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins wrote: >>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>> that I >>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>> curious, >>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>> >>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>> their >>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>> eating dogs >>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>> >>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>> >>> Steve Perkins >>> >> >> ching chong ping pong >> > http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html > > > http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ > > A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell > dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the > consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > > Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional > permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides > if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 > dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. > The World Animal Protection agency called the decision “shocking,” and > vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to > continue. I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way to kill a dog for food? These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats and chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad idea. If we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. |
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On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>> wrote: >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>> that I >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>> curious, >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>> >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>>> their >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>> eating dogs >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>> >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>> >>>> Steve Perkins >>>> >>> >>> ching chong ping pong >>> >> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >> >> >> >> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >> >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >> >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision “shocking,” and >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >> continue. > > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way > to kill a dog for food? It sure raises some issues. Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. Chickens tend to be electrocuted. I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer > generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't > get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as > untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats and > chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad idea. If > we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only > if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. Very inconsistent, isn't it. If I were a cow I'd move to India. |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: > >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins > >>> wrote: > >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone > >>>> that I > >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or > >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am > >>>> curious, > >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. > >>>> > >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from > >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt > >>>> their > >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from > >>>> eating dogs > >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? > >>>> > >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) > >>>> > >>>> Steve Perkins > >>>> > >>> > >>> ching chong ping pong > >>> > >> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ > >> > >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell > >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the > >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > >> > >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional > >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides > >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 > >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. > >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and > >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to > >> continue. > > > > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what > > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a > > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a > > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way > > to kill a dog for food? > > It sure raises some issues. > > Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. > > Chickens tend to be electrocuted. > > I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. > --Bryan |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote: >I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to food (as long as it doesn't contain artificial ingredients or overly processed - I AM anal about those things), but I must admit that I'm not at all keen on the idea of eating carnivorous mammals. Knowing what their diet is - no thanks... |
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On 6/27/2015 8:50 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>>>> that I >>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>>>> curious, >>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>>>>> their >>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>>>> eating dogs >>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Perkins >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ching chong ping pong >>>>> >>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>> >>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>> >>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides >>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 >>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. >>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>> continue. >>> >>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way >>> to kill a dog for food? >> >> It sure raises some issues. >> >> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >> >> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >> >> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >> > I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for > meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. This is true, sadly. > I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. I guess I generally do not either. I just think it's a tragedy to see them killed. My .02c. >> > --Bryan |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:18:55 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 8:50 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: > > On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: > >> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: > >>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: > >>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone > >>>>>> that I > >>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or > >>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am > >>>>>> curious, > >>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from > >>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt > >>>>>> their > >>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from > >>>>>> eating dogs > >>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Steve Perkins > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ching chong ping pong > >>>>> > >>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ > >>>> > >>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell > >>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the > >>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > >>>> > >>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional > >>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides > >>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 > >>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. > >>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and > >>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to > >>>> continue. > >>> > >>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what > >>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a > >>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a > >>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way > >>> to kill a dog for food? > >> > >> It sure raises some issues. > >> > >> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. > >> > >> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. > >> > >> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > >> > > I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for > > meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. > > This is true, sadly. > > > I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. > > I guess I generally do not either. > > I just think it's a tragedy to see them killed. > > My .02c. > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. > > >> > > --Bryan --Bryan |
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On 6/27/2015 9:31 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:18:55 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 8:50 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>>>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>>>>>> curious, >>>>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>>>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>>>>>> eating dogs >>>>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Perkins >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ching chong ping pong >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>>>> >>>>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >>>>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>>>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>>>> >>>>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides >>>>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 >>>>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. >>>>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >>>>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>>>> continue. >>>>> >>>>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >>>>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>>>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >>>>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way >>>>> to kill a dog for food? >>>> >>>> It sure raises some issues. >>>> >>>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >>>> >>>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >>>> >>>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >>>> >>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >> >> This is true, sadly. >> >>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >> >> I guess I generally do not either. >> >> I just think it's a tragedy to see them killed. >> >> My .02c. >> > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. Yes. I am 100% in agreement with you on that. Let's hear it for Bob Barker. A visionary in the movement. |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW > > wrote: > > >I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for > >meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. > >I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. > > I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to food (as long as it doesn't > contain artificial ingredients or overly processed - I AM anal about > those things), but I must admit that I'm not at all keen on the idea > of eating carnivorous mammals. Knowing what their diet is - no > thanks... I find the idea of *me* eating a carnivore rather revolting, and I'm very glad that my wife does too, but if others want to eat them, I'm content to let them, as long as they keep it the Hell away from me. --Bryan |
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On 6/27/2015 9:36 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW >> > wrote: >> >>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >> >> I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to food (as long as it doesn't >> contain artificial ingredients or overly processed - I AM anal about >> those things), but I must admit that I'm not at all keen on the idea >> of eating carnivorous mammals. Knowing what their diet is - no >> thanks... > > I find the idea of *me* eating a carnivore rather revolting, and I'm very > glad that my wife does too, but if others want to eat them, I'm content to > let them, as long as they keep it the Hell away from me. > > --Bryan > So how much of your dental intention do you find "revolting"? |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:36:14 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 9:31 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: > > On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:18:55 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: > >> On 6/27/2015 8:50 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: > >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: > >>>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >>>>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: > >>>>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone > >>>>>>>> that I > >>>>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or > >>>>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am > >>>>>>>> curious, > >>>>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from > >>>>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from > >>>>>>>> eating dogs > >>>>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Steve Perkins > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ching chong ping pong > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell > >>>>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the > >>>>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional > >>>>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides > >>>>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 > >>>>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. > >>>>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and > >>>>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to > >>>>>> continue. > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what > >>>>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a > >>>>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a > >>>>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way > >>>>> to kill a dog for food? > >>>> > >>>> It sure raises some issues. > >>>> > >>>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. > >>>> > >>>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. > >>>> > >>>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > >>>> > >>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for > >>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. > >> > >> This is true, sadly. > >> > >>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. > >> > >> I guess I generally do not either. > >> > >> I just think it's a tragedy to see them killed. > >> > >> My .02c. > >> > > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. > > Yes. > > I am 100% in agreement with you on that. > > Let's hear it for Bob Barker. > > A visionary in the movement. Bob Barker kind of creeps me out because he is too similar in both appearance and mannerisms to my father, though he's probably a nicer person than my father was. --Bryan |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:46:58 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 9:36 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: > > On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for > >>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. > >>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. > >> > >> I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to food (as long as it doesn't > >> contain artificial ingredients or overly processed - I AM anal about > >> those things), but I must admit that I'm not at all keen on the idea > >> of eating carnivorous mammals. Knowing what their diet is - no > >> thanks... > > > > I find the idea of *me* eating a carnivore rather revolting, and I'm very > > glad that my wife does too, but if others want to eat them, I'm content to > > let them, as long as they keep it the Hell away from me. > > > > --Bryan > > > > > So how much of your dental intention do you find "revolting"? Not having a clue what you meant by "dental intention," I Googled the phrase. No clarification was apparent. --Bryan |
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On 6/27/2015 10:12 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:36:14 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 9:31 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:18:55 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 8:50 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >>>>>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>>>>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>>>>>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>>>>>>>> curious, >>>>>>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>>>>>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>>>>>>>> eating dogs >>>>>>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve Perkins >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ching chong ping pong >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >>>>>>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>>>>>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>>>>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides >>>>>>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 >>>>>>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. >>>>>>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >>>>>>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>>>>>> continue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >>>>>>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>>>>>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >>>>>>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way >>>>>>> to kill a dog for food? >>>>>> >>>>>> It sure raises some issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >>>>>> >>>>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >>>>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >>>> >>>> This is true, sadly. >>>> >>>>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >>>> >>>> I guess I generally do not either. >>>> >>>> I just think it's a tragedy to see them killed. >>>> >>>> My .02c. >>>> >>> The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. >> >> Yes. >> >> I am 100% in agreement with you on that. >> >> Let's hear it for Bob Barker. >> >> A visionary in the movement. > > Bob Barker kind of creeps me out because he is too similar in both appearance > and mannerisms to my father, though he's probably a nicer person than my father > was. > > --Bryan > I'm very sorry you have that association. He has done some majorly cool things in terms of ending whale slaughter by the Japanese. The guy is a big time animal rights hero. |
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On 6/27/2015 10:19 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:46:58 PM UTC-5, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 9:36 PM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote: >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 10:08:30 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote: >>>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >>>>> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >>>>> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >>>> >>>> I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to food (as long as it doesn't >>>> contain artificial ingredients or overly processed - I AM anal about >>>> those things), but I must admit that I'm not at all keen on the idea >>>> of eating carnivorous mammals. Knowing what their diet is - no >>>> thanks... >>> >>> I find the idea of *me* eating a carnivore rather revolting, and I'm very >>> glad that my wife does too, but if others want to eat them, I'm content to >>> let them, as long as they keep it the Hell away from me. >>> >>> --Bryan >>> >> >> >> So how much of your dental intention do you find "revolting"? > > Not having a clue what you meant by "dental intention," I Googled the phrase. > No clarification was apparent. > > --Bryan > OK fine. You have a set of teeth. They are intended to do certain things. Do you deny the intent of your canines and incisors in favor of your grinding molars? What was your mouth built to consume and tear down? |
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![]() "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. >> > --Bryan I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets safe. I saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my town on Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over to at least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the other direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow their pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. Cheri |
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![]() "Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message > news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- > >> The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. > >>> > --Bryan > > I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets safe. I > saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my town on > Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over to at > least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the other > direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow their > pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. Yeah. I took my friend home yesterday and couldn't believe how many cats I saw out there running across the street! And it's a very busy street. She said they are always out there. |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: > >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins > >>> wrote: > >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone > >>>> that I > >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or > >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am > >>>> curious, > >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. > >>>> > >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from > >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt > >>>> their > >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from > >>>> eating dogs > >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? > >>>> > >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) > >>>> > >>>> Steve Perkins > >>>> > >>> > >>> ching chong ping pong > >>> > >> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ > >> > >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell > >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the > >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > >> > >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional > >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides > >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 > >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. > >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and > >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to > >> continue. > > > > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what > > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a > > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a > > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way > > to kill a dog for food? > > It sure raises some issues. > > Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. > > Chickens tend to be electrocuted. > > I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not real practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal if I can help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. > > > These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer > > generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't > > get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as > > untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats and > > chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad idea. If > > we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only > > if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. > > > Very inconsistent, isn't it. > > If I were a cow I'd move to India. Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) |
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On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:35:58 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message > news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- > > > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. > > >> > --Bryan > > I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets safe. I > saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my town on > Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over to at > least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the other > direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow their > pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. > > Cheri My neighbor used to get stinking drunk and walk her dog. One night the dog was outside by itself and got hit by a car. Another neighbor retrieved the dog and took it up to her apartment. She was surprised to see the dog was outside and told the guy to put him in the corner of the living room cause he was sleeping. "Lady, this dog is not sleeping, he's dead. It's never going to wake up!" The guy owns a dog that everybody loves and it was to his credit to take that broken dog to it's home. That must have been really weird the next morning when she awoke from her drunken stupor and found that dog dead in the corner. |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> > On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >> >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >> >>>> that I >> >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy >> >>>> or >> >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >> >>>> curious, >> >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >> >>>> >> >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants >> >>>> from >> >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to >> >>>> adapt >> >>>> their >> >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >> >>>> eating dogs >> >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >> >>>> >> >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >> >>>> >> >>>> Steve Perkins >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> ching chong ping pong >> >>> >> >> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >> >> >> >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and >> >> sell >> >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >> >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >> >> >> >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >> >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court >> >> decides >> >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to >> >> 3 >> >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down >> >> humanely. >> >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >> >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >> >> continue. >> > >> > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >> > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >> > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >> > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best >> > way >> > to kill a dog for food? >> >> It sure raises some issues. >> >> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >> >> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >> >> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > > A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not real > practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal if I can > help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. > >> >> > These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer >> > generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't >> > get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as >> > untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats >> > and >> > chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad idea. >> > If >> > we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only >> > if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. >> >> >> Very inconsistent, isn't it. >> >> If I were a cow I'd move to India. > > Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) They are a bloomin' pest though. Roaming around the roads and streets, doing what cows do .... in big piles everywhere ... They are a danger to traffic but given the mass of cars, rickshaws, autorickshaws, bikes, animals pulling carts etc etc on the roads and the rubbish drivers etc ... They seem to get by. They must be blessed! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:35:58 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message >> news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- >> >> > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. >> >> >> > --Bryan >> >> I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets safe. I >> saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my town on >> Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over to >> at >> least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the >> other >> direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow their >> pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. >> >> Cheri > > My neighbor used to get stinking drunk and walk her dog. One night the dog > was outside by itself and got hit by a car. Another neighbor retrieved the > dog and took it up to her apartment. She was surprised to see the dog was > outside and told the guy to put him in the corner of the living room cause > he was sleeping. "Lady, this dog is not sleeping, he's dead. It's never > going to wake up!" The guy owns a dog that everybody loves and it was to > his credit to take that broken dog to it's home. > > That must have been really weird the next morning when she awoke from her > drunken stupor and found that dog dead in the corner. My dogs are never, and have never been allowed out on their own ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW
> wrote: >I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >> >--Bryan In Yulin, China the people enjoy dog. They think Americans are crazy to eat their Cows. A Cow is strong enough to plow a garden. Why would you destroy your farming implement? Here's a look at the Yulin Festival: https://youtu.be/iv8Z4u5ZqWw William |
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On 2015-06-28, William > wrote:
> In Yulin, China the people enjoy dog. They think Americans are crazy > to eat their Cows. A Cow is strong enough to plow a garden. Why would > you destroy your farming implement? I suspect ppl will be eating much more than dogs n' cats, when the end is nigh. nb |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote: > > Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) > > They are a bloomin' pest though. Roaming around the roads and streets, > doing what cows do .... in big piles everywhere ... They are a danger to > traffic but given the mass of cars, rickshaws, autorickshaws, bikes, animals > pulling carts etc etc on the roads and the rubbish drivers etc ... They seem > to get by. > They must be blessed! India ppls should export all the cows since they don't eat them. G. |
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Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says... > > > India ppls should export all the cows since they don't eat them. > > Duh, Gary. People in India who don't eat beef, do consume milk, curds > and butter; and dry dung is used for fuel. > > Janet UK Oh well. I tried. That's what I get for not using Google. ;-) I yield to your response. Don't forget the world's stern environmentalists though...they claim that cow farts are ruining our atmosphere. G. |
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![]() "Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> "dsi1" wrote: >> > Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) >> >> They are a bloomin' pest though. Roaming around the roads and streets, >> doing what cows do .... in big piles everywhere ... They are a danger to >> traffic but given the mass of cars, rickshaws, autorickshaws, bikes, >> animals >> pulling carts etc etc on the roads and the rubbish drivers etc ... They >> seem >> to get by. >> They must be blessed! > > India ppls should export all the cows since they don't eat them. They are sacred, which is why they don't eat them, so they are not going to send them to you to eat. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 2015-06-28, Janet > wrote:
> and butter; and dry dung is used for fuel. And a fly repellent! No kidding. Saw a documentary about how small village Indians were dupped into an American style milk co-op. Sell all yer cow's milk output to central processing point and reap the profits. Problem was, the co-op hadda collect all the rented cattle to one spot to milk them and this left no living cows in the village. No cows, no dung. No dung, no fuel. The most surprising thing learned, the village folk would take the dung and spread it on their homes and patios, like a plaster, and the dung actually cut down on the severe fly problem. When the dung/plaster dried, it actually repelled flies. Go figure. The village folk got their cows back, got their fuel and fly repellent back, and told the co-op to take fly-ing leap. ![]() nb |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > They are sacred, which is why they don't eat them, so they are not going to > send them to you to eat. Interesting though how McDonald's became a hit in India (hold the beef!) http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30115555 |
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![]() "Gary" > wrote in message ... > Ophelia wrote: >> >> They are sacred, which is why they don't eat them, so they are not going >> to >> send them to you to eat. > > Interesting though how McDonald's became a hit in India (hold the > beef!) > http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30115555 I have seen them even when I lived there, but I see from your link that they serve veggies burgers. I don't know about now. Btw did I see someone had written about cows being needed for dung, milk etc?? Good luck with getting milk. Bulls are not allowed to run around in the road with the cows ... the cows are not owned they just run free. As for dung, you can pick it up off the pavement and road .. anywhere ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 6/28/2015 3:36 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote: >> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>>>> that I >>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's Snoopy or >>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>>>> curious, >>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how immigrants from >>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to adapt >>>>>> their >>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>>>> eating dogs >>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Perkins >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ching chong ping pong >>>>> >>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>> >>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>> >>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court decides >>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up to 3 >>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down humanely. >>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>> continue. >>> >>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best way >>> to kill a dog for food? >> >> It sure raises some issues. >> >> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >> >> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >> >> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. > > A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not real practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal if I can help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. I will share my boot with you ;-) >> >>> These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer >>> generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't >>> get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as >>> untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats and >>> chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad idea. If >>> we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only >>> if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. >> >> >> Very inconsistent, isn't it. >> >> If I were a cow I'd move to India. > > Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) Ah to be worshiped by all, what a deal! |
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On 6/28/2015 3:47 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:35:58 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message >> news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- >> >>> The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. >> >>>>> --Bryan >> >> I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets safe. I >> saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my town on >> Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over to at >> least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the other >> direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow their >> pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. >> >> Cheri > > My neighbor used to get stinking drunk and walk her dog. One night the dog was outside by itself and got hit by a car. Another neighbor retrieved the dog and took it up to her apartment. She was surprised to see the dog was outside and told the guy to put him in the corner of the living room cause he was sleeping. "Lady, this dog is not sleeping, he's dead. It's never going to wake up!" The guy owns a dog that everybody loves and it was to his credit to take that broken dog to it's home. > > That must have been really weird the next morning when she awoke from her drunken stupor and found that dog dead in the corner. > Wow. That's a really sad tale. |
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On 6/28/2015 7:20 AM, William wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 19:50:28 -0700 (PDT), Bryan-TGWWW > > wrote: > >> I think that many Americans would be uncomfortable with dogs being raised for >> meat, but the fact is, many unwanted dogs are killed because no one wants them. >> I don't see any point in forbidding persons from eating *those* dogs. >>> >> --Bryan > > In Yulin, China the people enjoy dog. They think Americans are crazy > to eat their Cows. A Cow is strong enough to plow a garden. Why would > you destroy your farming implement? Here's a look at the Yulin > Festival: > > > https://youtu.be/iv8Z4u5ZqWw > > > William > > They also like to asphyxiate themselves with coal smog. Smart lot, eh? |
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On 6/28/2015 8:06 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-06-28, William > wrote: > >> In Yulin, China the people enjoy dog. They think Americans are crazy >> to eat their Cows. A Cow is strong enough to plow a garden. Why would >> you destroy your farming implement? > > I suspect ppl will be eating much more than dogs n' cats, when the end > is nigh. > > nb > Mad Max? Likely. |
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On 6/28/2015 11:59 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: > >>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>> >>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and sell >>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. > > It only figures that the idiot Boner Boy would fall for a hoax like > this. > > http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/dogmeat.asp > > -sw > http://www.animalliberationfront.com...ogMeatInLA.htm WESTERN PET CENTER - I'm positive you've heard stories about this place, as every animal rights group I contacted had, although no one ever did much of anything. I know for an absolute fact that this place shaves puppies and sells them to restaurant chefs from a back entrance easily accessible thru an alley next to the store. I don't know if they do this any longer but I witnessed them displaying puppies in a foldaway pen in the parking lot after hours (they close at 7 but the pen would still be up as late as 9PM - never stayed around long enough to see when they took it down) and chefs (dressed in cooking outfits) came and bought shaved Chows. I've seen a lot of other very weird and incriminating stuff here as well. the owner is either owner of Mt. High Ranch (Phelan) or Hans Farm (Little Rock). Both are dog farms, off the 138, their signs (in Korean) are easily seen from highway. Mt. High is a "goat ranch". they raise dogs and goats, and slaughter them on premises. They appear to be a retreat and offer a menu on the door of the main building (similar to a lodge office. For awhile there was a Korean dogmeat restaurant very nearby, even picturing a dog on their sign. Hans Farm masquerades as a fruit farm but neighbors say that they never harvest their tiny grove of fruit. They have kennels on premises with about 200 dogs and slaughter them there (again, neighbors have heard the killings, and one found a dog head in his yard. The Koreans told his 8 year old son that they eat the dogs. One of the neighbors also told me that his friend works with a humane society in the area that actually did a raid and found a refrigerator full of dogmeat and a menu posted on the refrigerator with prices. For some reason that I no longer recall, they couldn't bust them, They offer weekend bbqs in the summer and Korean families are bussed there for picnics. If memory serves me, these tours are arranged through Big Bear Farms and HWA (I believe Big Bear has a storefront on Western - if not, Vermont). They advertise the picnics in the Korean newspapers. Besides the main kennels, there are assorted manmade kennel cages alongside the driveway/road that veers left once you drive in. The reason I know about these two farms is that I was doing my own investigation for several years and finally interested frank Snepp from (then) Ch. 9 News to do a feature. He had a Korean assistant named Julie who helped me considerably with translations and information. Her uncle told her that all the dogmeat used in L.A.'s Koreatown came from a farm in the desert, near Victorville. I went out there and drove all around for about 7 hours until I found Mt. High. Their sign said they sold "health broth made from domestic animals." This sign was later destroyed by someone who obviously knew what it meant and posted a note on their handiwork indicating so. Little Rock is not really a town but a small group of houses (maybe 30), and from interviewing neighbors over a period of a few weeks, I can safely say that most, if not all of the folks I spoke to are druggies and fugitives from the law. I went to city hall and looked up property owners there and none of the street signs match the real addresses registered! Here is information on the bussed picnic tours (from the Korean newspaper): e-address being Ham Ji Park. Tours run by 3RD STREET BLACK GOAT EXTRACT , 35591/2 W. 3rd St., LA. 90020 between Normandie & New Hampshire 213-380-5749 (unlisted)/922 S. Vermont Ave., LA. 90006 213-388-9099 (Big Bear Farm, 922 S. Vermont)/213-388-6966(unlisted) > www.bigbearfarm.net Toll free 800-491-2440 (UNLISTED) TEL # FROM REVERSE LOOKUP: 213-388-6618 REVERSE LOOKUP: under CORRADI, James P Co Tr mail address: 1701 Camino De Villas, Burbank 91501 818-846-3758 This place is listed on the advert as well: BIG BEAR MARKET 2600 E. 1st St, LA 323-266-1025 Mt. High Dog Farm This is some old info I had on Mt. High. It may have changed owners since, as I'm positive the pet shop owners were tied in on a paper trail I did, but unfortunately most of my notes are in a storage space in Los Angeles. MOUNTAIN HIGH RANCH 6888 Monte Vista Rd., Phelan (note different filing address than address on HWY 138) OWNERS: LEE, Kwang N and BAE, Richard J FBN# 00185251 FILING TYPE: First Filing FEE: $29 paid STATUS: Awaiting Affidavit STARTED: 8/1/96 FILED: 12/11/96 EXPIRES: 12/11/2001 CONDUCTED BY: A General Partnership LAST UPDATED: 12/11/96 HOME ADDRESS: Kwang LEE, 4028 HWY 138, Phelan PHONE: 760-249-1108 |
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On 6/28/2015 2:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... >> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote: >>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> > On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>> >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>> >>>> that I >>> >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's >>> Snoopy >>>> or >>> >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>> >>>> curious, >>> >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how >>> immigrants >>>> from >>> >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to >>> >>>> adapt >>> >>>> their >>> >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>> >>>> eating dogs >>> >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Steve Perkins >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ching chong ping pong >>> >>> >>> >> >>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>> >> >>> >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume >>> and >> sell >>> >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of >>> the >>> >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>> >> >>> >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>> >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court >>> >> decides >>> >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up >>> to >> 3 >>> >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down >> >>> humanely. >>> >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," >>> and >>> >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>> >> continue. >>> > >>> > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is >>> what >>> > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>> > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them >>> with a >>> > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the >>> best > way >>> > to kill a dog for food? >>> >>> It sure raises some issues. >>> >>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >>> >>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >>> >>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >> >> A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not >> real practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal >> if I can help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. >> >>> >>> > These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The >>> newer >>> > generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't >>> > get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as >>> > untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray >>> cats > and >>> > chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad >>> idea. > If >>> > we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but >>> only >>> > if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. >>> >>> >>> Very inconsistent, isn't it. >>> >>> If I were a cow I'd move to India. >> >> Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) > > They are a bloomin' pest though. Roaming around the roads and streets, > doing what cows do .... in big piles everywhere ... They are a danger > to traffic but given the mass of cars, rickshaws, autorickshaws, bikes, > animals pulling carts etc etc on the roads and the rubbish drivers etc > ... They seem to get by. > They must be blessed! > > I can imagine - but rather not! Hee hee. |
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On 6/28/2015 2:26 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" > wrote in message > ... >> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:35:58 PM UTC-10, Cheri wrote: >>> "Bryan-TGWWW" > wrote in message >>> news:3199ee28-1da0-4e35-9fb7- >>> >>> > The tragedy is caused by folks not spaying/neutering their pets. >>> >>> >> > --Bryan >>> >>> I agree, also in not doing everything possible to keep their pets >>> safe. I >>> saw a large Siamese cat dead in the middle of Church Street in my >>> town on >>> Thursday, obviously run over by a car who didn't stop. I pulled over >>> to at >>> least get it out of the street, but a man in a truck coming from the >>> other >>> direction stopped and removed it. I really despise owners who allow >>> their >>> pets to be put in that kind of danger, and It's not a rare sight, sadly. >>> >>> Cheri >> >> My neighbor used to get stinking drunk and walk her dog. One night the >> dog was outside by itself and got hit by a car. Another neighbor >> retrieved the dog and took it up to her apartment. She was surprised >> to see the dog was outside and told the guy to put him in the corner >> of the living room cause he was sleeping. "Lady, this dog is not >> sleeping, he's dead. It's never going to wake up!" The guy owns a dog >> that everybody loves and it was to his credit to take that broken dog >> to it's home. >> >> That must have been really weird the next morning when she awoke from >> her drunken stupor and found that dog dead in the corner. > > My dogs are never, and have never been allowed out on their own ![]() > > Your problem is that you're not getting drunk enough. Consume enough alcohol and your dogs will be scampering about in the moorlands under the light of the new moon. The lady sold her condo years ago. The weird part is nobody's living in the unit. That's like tossing away $1600/month. You're talking over $40,000 in income down the drain. Hopefully, she never got another dog or she moved to a place that's far from traffic. |
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On 6/28/2015 6:04 AM, La Mirada wrote:
> On 6/28/2015 3:36 AM, dsi1 wrote: >> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote: >>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>>> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>>>>> that I >>>>>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's >>>>>>> Snoopy or >>>>>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I am >>>>>>> curious, >>>>>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how >>>>>>> immigrants from >>>>>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to >>>>>>> adapt >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>>>>> eating dogs >>>>>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Perkins >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ching chong ping pong >>>>>> >>>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>>> >>>>> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume and >>>>> sell >>>>> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of the >>>>> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>>> >>>>> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>>> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court >>>>> decides >>>>> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up >>>>> to 3 >>>>> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down >>>>> humanely. >>>>> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," and >>>>> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>>> continue. >>>> >>>> I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is what >>>> is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>>> chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them with a >>>> knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the best >>>> way >>>> to kill a dog for food? >>> >>> It sure raises some issues. >>> >>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >>> >>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >>> >>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >> >> A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not >> real practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal >> if I can help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. > > > I will share my boot with you ;-) > >>> >>>> These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The newer >>>> generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I don't >>>> get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated as >>>> untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray cats >>>> and >>>> chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad >>>> idea. If >>>> we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but only >>>> if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. >>> >>> >>> Very inconsistent, isn't it. >>> >>> If I were a cow I'd move to India. >> >> Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) > > Ah to be worshiped by all, what a deal! > > The Hawaiians thought that Captain Cook was a God. That didn't turn out too good for Cook but what the heck, I'm willing to give it a go. Hee hee. http://www.coffeetimes.com/cook.htm |
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![]() "dsi1" > wrote in message ... > On 6/28/2015 2:16 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 12:06:33 PM UTC-10, La Mirada wrote: >>>> On 6/27/2015 3:15 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> > On 6/27/2015 10:25 AM, La Mirada wrote: >>>> >> On 6/27/2015 1:53 PM, wrote: >>>> >>> On Wednesday, May 18, 1994 at 6:26:12 AM UTC+3, Stephen R. Perkins >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I ought to invest in fire insurance right away and assure everyone >>>> >>>> that I >>>> >>>> (at present) have no intentions whatsoever of eating anyone's >>>> Snoopy >>>> or >>>> >>>> Benji or Muffy, or of actually chowing down on a mutt at all. I >>>> >>>> am >>>> >>>> curious, >>>> >>>> however, about whether it would be legal to do so or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess what raises my curiosity is wondering about how >>>> immigrants >>>> from >>>> >>>> certain eastern cultures, that freely eat such animals, have to >>>> >>>> adapt >>>> >>>> their >>>> >>>> lifestyles or dietary habits. Are they legally prohibited from >>>> >>>> eating dogs >>>> >>>> (or rats or anything else very un-American) in the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Not morbid, just curious, (OK, maybe a LITTLE morbid...) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Perkins >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> ching chong ping pong >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/...es-101714.html >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/ame...ling-dog-meat/ >>>> >> >>>> >> A Los Angeles restaurant has been granted permission to consume >>>> and >> sell >>>> >> dog meat. A Filipino group successfully argued that the banning of >>>> the >>>> >> consumption of dog meat violated their religious rights. >>>> >> >>>> >> Puchow de Manila Eatery and Fine Dining has been granted provisional >>>> >> permission to sell and consume dog meat, while the Supreme Court >>>> >> decides >>>> >> if their case has merit. The restaurant is allowed to slaughter up >>>> to >> 3 >>>> >> dogs per day, with the stipulation that they must be put down >> >>>> humanely. >>>> >> The World Animal Protection agency called the decision "shocking," >>>> and >>>> >> vowed to fight tooth and nail to ensure this act is not allowed to >>>> >> continue. >>>> > >>>> > I don't have any problems with people eating dogs, the question is >>>> what >>>> > is meant by humanely killing them. Do we break their necks like a >>>> > chicken or shoot them between the eyes like a cow, or stick them >>>> with a >>>> > knife like a pig? Do we give them lethal injections? What's the >>>> best > way >>>> > to kill a dog for food? >>>> >>>> It sure raises some issues. >>>> >>>> Cattle typically get it with a stun gun and are bled out. >>>> >>>> Chickens tend to be electrocuted. >>>> >>>> I'd sooner eat my boot than kill a dog. >>> >>> A stun gun and electrocution are probably really efficient but not >>> real practical for at-home killing. I wouldn't want to kill any animal >>> if I can help it. I guess it all depends on how hungry I get. >>> >>>> >>>> > These days it's mostly the old Filipinos that would eat dogs. The >>>> newer >>>> > generation is not interested in such distasteful notions. What I >>>> > don't >>>> > get is why people think that a select few animals should be treated >>>> > as >>>> > untouchable. I tell you, this entire town is overrun with stray >>>> cats > and >>>> > chickens. People eating more cats and chickens ain't such a bad >>>> idea. > If >>>> > we want to ban eating dogs and cats and other pets that's OK - but >>>> only >>>> > if we ban the killing of cows, chicken, and pigs, too. >>>> >>>> >>>> Very inconsistent, isn't it. >>>> >>>> If I were a cow I'd move to India. >>> >>> Those cows in India ain't dumb! :-) >> >> They are a bloomin' pest though. Roaming around the roads and streets, >> doing what cows do .... in big piles everywhere ... They are a danger >> to traffic but given the mass of cars, rickshaws, autorickshaws, bikes, >> animals pulling carts etc etc on the roads and the rubbish drivers etc >> ... They seem to get by. >> They must be blessed! >> >> > > I can imagine - but rather not! Hee hee. I lived in Delhi. The noise is incredible. Every driver uses their horn constantly ![]() You can google plenty of pics and youtube film ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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