What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.

Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????

He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
$350.

Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
to get sucked into that scam.

On 7/10/2015 6:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
> Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
> available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
> $350.
>
> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
> to get sucked into that scam.

He's playing near me this fall. 40 tickets left. Cost?
$200 - $615. And that's from the box office.

nancy

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:44:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
>concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
>October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
>today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
>too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
>ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>
>Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>
> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
>Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
>available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
>$350.
>
>Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>to get sucked into that scam.

Concert tickets have gotten stupid expensive over the past 20 yerars
or so. I'm an old guy now, and I remember when concert tickets at the
Kiel here in STL were $4, $5 and $6 for most acts, and for the really
premium acts $4.50, $5.50 and $6.50!! I even saw KISS once for $2.95!!
About 1975 I think.

John Kuthe...

On 7/10/2015 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> and I sure as hell am not going to get sucked into that scam.


You whiner!

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:44:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
>concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
>October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
>today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
>too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
>ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>
>Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>
> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
>Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
>available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
>$350.
>
>Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>to get sucked into that scam.

Check again the day of the show, last minute tickets released,
desperate scalpers. Or show up twenty minutes after the show starts
and see if the scalpers will deal for less than face.

J.

On 10/07/2015 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
> concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
> October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
> today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
> too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
> ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>
> Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>
> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
> Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
> available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
> $350.
>
> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
> to get sucked into that scam.
>
Some think that the resellers are in fact Ticketmaster in disguise.
Concerts frequently sell out in seconds and the conspiracy theory gains
traction.
Graham

--

On 2015-07-10, Dave Smith > wrote:

> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
> to get sucked into that scam.

Bummer. Perhaps this will salve yer shattered soul:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk

nb

On 2015-07-10 20:20, JRStern wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:44:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
>> concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
>> October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
>> today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
>> too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
>> ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>>
>> Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>>
>> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
>> Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
>> available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
>> $350.
>>
>> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>> to get sucked into that scam.
>
> Check again the day of the show, last minute tickets released,
> desperate scalpers. Or show up twenty minutes after the show starts
> and see if the scalpers will deal for less than face.
>
I think there are few things that would give me more pleasure than
seeing scalpers lose lots of money.

On 2015-07-10 21:25, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-07-10, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>> to get sucked into that scam.
>
> Bummer. Perhaps this will salve yer shattered soul:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>
Thanks. That is one of the all time great guitar solos. It is a solo on
top of a solo on top of a solo.

On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-07-10, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>> to get sucked into that scam.
>
> Bummer. Perhaps this will salve yer shattered soul:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk

Wonderful.

nancy

On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:

> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk

> Wonderful.

I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs

nb

On 7/11/2015 9:23 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>
>> Wonderful.
>
> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs
>
> nb
>
>
>
>
OMG, they cloned Paul Simon and Chet Atkins!

On 7/11/2015 11:23 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>
>> Wonderful.
>
> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs

That kid has it all, voice, guitar skills, oozes talent.

nancy

On 7/11/2015 11:00 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-07-10, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>>> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>>> to get sucked into that scam.
>>
>> Bummer. Perhaps this will salve yer shattered soul:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>
> Wonderful.
>
> nancy
>
It's very nice to see young musical artists enjoying what is (to us
older folks) classic sound.

Jill

On 7/11/2015 12:45 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 11:23 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>
>> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
>> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
>> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
>> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs
>
> That kid has it all, voice, guitar skills, oozes talent.
>
> nancy
>
Is he a twin?! I really haven't followed this but wow:

Knock knockin' on Heaven's Door:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syCU871iprU

Jill

On 7/11/2015 1:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 12:45 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 7/11/2015 11:23 AM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>>>
>>>> Wonderful.
>>>
>>> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
>>> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
>>> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
>>> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs
>>
>> That kid has it all, voice, guitar skills, oozes talent.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> Is he a twin?! I really haven't followed this but wow:
>
> Knock knockin' on Heaven's Door:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syCU871iprU

OMG, vampire twins! No refection in the mirror!

The guy on the left looks like a street musician I just
saw on Trip Flip.

They're terrific. Funny that there are always some thumbs
down votes on these videos. Can't win them all.

nancy

The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and high tides.

On 2015-07-11 4:58 PM, wrote:
> The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was
> about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and
> high tides.
>


The first major concert I attended was enough for me. I saw the Beatles
on Toronto in 1965. The only music I heard was the opener, King Curtis.
Once the Beatles cam on stage all I could hear was thousands of teen age
girls scream hysterically. I never heard a note of their music.

However..... I got to see Jimmy Hendrix.... and didn't realize it more
more than 30 years. I learned that the guitarist for King Curtis on
that tour was Hendrix. Unfortunately, at the age of 14 I was not into R&B.


The experience turned me off the big concert thing. I prefer to catch
live music at smaller venues like bars or open air concerts. The best
open air concert I ever saw was Jeff Healey. It was a beautiful summer
night and the opener was the Downchild Blues Band.

On 7/11/2015 3:09 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 1:37 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/11/2015 12:45 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2015 11:23 AM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>>>>
>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>
>>>> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
>>>> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
>>>> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
>>>> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs
>>>
>>> That kid has it all, voice, guitar skills, oozes talent.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>>
>> Is he a twin?! I really haven't followed this but wow:
>>
>> Knock knockin' on Heaven's Door:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syCU871iprU
>
> OMG, vampire twins! No refection in the mirror!
>
I didn't even notice the non-reflection in the mirror on the wall behind
them. Spooky! <G>

> The guy on the left looks like a street musician I just
> saw on Trip Flip.
>
> They're terrific. Funny that there are always some thumbs
> down votes on these videos. Can't win them all.
>
> nancy
>
I'd like to see the folks who give them thumbs down do better.

Jill

On 7/11/2015 12:45 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 11:23 AM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2015-07-11, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/2015 9:25 PM, notbob wrote:
>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5SC1uIxXhk
>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>
>> I predict we'll be hearing/seeing more from this talented young man.
>> Apparently, he's an insanely talented bluegrass player w/ far ranging
>> six-string interests. Here's his rendition of a Paul Simon's
>> Graceland, the song which originally snagged my astonished earholes:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtYKjQLgnOs
>
> That kid has it all, voice, guitar skills, oozes talent.
>
> nancy
>
This one's fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1D17lLyn_I

According to Josh and friends, anyone can do it. All you need is a
Canon Rebel T3i and a Zoom H2. I'd have to add "talent" to the list of
technical requirements.

Jill

On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 18:44:02 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
>concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
>October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
>today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
>too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
>ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>
>Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????

How many times have I heard this same story now?
Seems to be a common complaint... world-wide.

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 17:32:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>The first major concert I attended was enough for me. I saw the Beatles
>on Toronto in 1965. The only music I heard was the opener, King Curtis.
>Once the Beatles cam on stage all I could hear was thousands of teen age
>girls scream hysterically. I never heard a note of their music.

That's because there were no PA systems of any size back then like we
have now. It was the Beatle's first concerts in the U.S that created
the demand for amplification beyond the paltry 20 or 50 watts that was
the norm at the time.

>However..... I got to see Jimmy Hendrix.... and didn't realize it more
>more than 30 years. I learned that the guitarist for King Curtis on
>that tour was Hendrix. Unfortunately, at the age of 14 I was not into R&B.
>
>
>The experience turned me off the big concert thing. I prefer to catch
>live music at smaller venues like bars or open air concerts. The best
>open air concert I ever saw was Jeff Healey. It was a beautiful summer
>night and the opener was the Downchild Blues Band.

My first 'real' concert was a big deal for me. I was about 10 y/o at
the time, and completely infatuated with Suzi Quatro.

Luckily for me, my Dad's best friend worked in management at EMI at
the time. He not only arranged for me to go to the concert, but to
meet her both after the concert and at a later gold record
presentation for her 'Quatro' album. I got lots of kisses and hugs
from her both times, and Suzi being my 'dream girl', I was pretty
pleased with all that

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:46:04 -0300, wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:20:50 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 17:32:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>The first major concert I attended was enough for me. I saw the Beatles
>>>on Toronto in 1965. The only music I heard was the opener, King Curtis.
>>>Once the Beatles cam on stage all I could hear was thousands of teen age
>>>girls scream hysterically. I never heard a note of their music.
>>
>>That's because there were no PA systems of any size back then like we
>>have now. It was the Beatle's first concerts in the U.S that created
>>the demand for amplification beyond the paltry 20 or 50 watts that was
>>the norm at the time.
>>
>>>However..... I got to see Jimmy Hendrix.... and didn't realize it more
>>>more than 30 years. I learned that the guitarist for King Curtis on
>>>that tour was Hendrix. Unfortunately, at the age of 14 I was not into R&B.
>>>
>>>
>>>The experience turned me off the big concert thing. I prefer to catch
>>>live music at smaller venues like bars or open air concerts. The best
>>>open air concert I ever saw was Jeff Healey. It was a beautiful summer
>>>night and the opener was the Downchild Blues Band.
>>
>>My first 'real' concert was a big deal for me. I was about 10 y/o at
>>the time, and completely infatuated with Suzi Quatro.
>>
>>Luckily for me, my Dad's best friend worked in management at EMI at
>>the time. He not only arranged for me to go to the concert, but to
>>meet her both after the concert and at a later gold record
>>presentation for her 'Quatro' album. I got lots of kisses and hugs
>>from her both times, and Suzi being my 'dream girl', I was pretty
>>pleased with all that
>
>My best one was a Harry Chapin concert. Believe it or not, there were
>maybe only 12 of us there - he came down off stage and sat amongst us
>and sang. Not long after that he died in a road accident. He was
>giving two performances that day on a university campus and I just
>happened to pick the right one. Many would have scrubbed it but not
>Harry, he said we were there, we had paid and he would sing.

That would have been a great experience (especially in hindsight), it
was a sad day when Chapin went way too early. I've heard of many very
famous bands/artists who still performed with even *less* of an
audience than that

On 7/11/2015 6:46 PM, wrote:

>> pleased with all that
>
> My best one was a Harry Chapin concert. Believe it or not, there were
> maybe only 12 of us there - he came down off stage and sat amongst us
> and sang. Not long after that he died in a road accident. He was
> giving two performances that day on a university campus and I just
> happened to pick the right one. Many would have scrubbed it but not
> Harry, he said we were there, we had paid and he would sing.

He was a good guy. Maybe a year before that we went to one of his
concerts. After, he was raising funds for World Hunger by selling his
poetry books and t-shirts. We waited for the crown to leave before we
got anything. While waiting, we chatted with a woman also waiting. She
later introduced us to her husband, Harry.

On 7/11/2015 2:58 PM, wrote:
> The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and high tides.
>
Or Ghost Riders in the Sky...

On 7/11/2015 4:20 PM, wrote:
> My first 'real' concert was a big deal for me. I was about 10 y/o at
> the time, and completely infatuated with Suzi Quatro.


That's Tooth's KB Lager grade musical taste, shrimpy.

On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 17:32:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-07-11 4:58 PM, wrote:
>> The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was
>> about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and
>> high tides.
>>
>
>
>The first major concert I attended was enough for me. I saw the Beatles
>on Toronto in 1965. The only music I heard was the opener, King Curtis.
>Once the Beatles cam on stage all I could hear was thousands of teen age
>girls scream hysterically. I never heard a note of their music.

You were there too?

My father stood in line to get tickets for me and a couple of my
friends. If I remember correctly, CHUM FM or another radio station was
giving out roses to parents who got tickets for their kids.

And I was the teenage girl screaming the loudest. :-)

>However..... I got to see Jimmy Hendrix.... and didn't realize it more
>more than 30 years. I learned that the guitarist for King Curtis on
>that tour was Hendrix. Unfortunately, at the age of 14 I was not into R&B.

My big music moment was in around 1968. My dad was in the military,
and was posted to Germany. Us underage kids used to go out to the
clubs drinking. One night, we went to a place where there was an
unknown band called the Yardbirds playing. My girlfriend and I invited
the guys in the band back to her house the next day. They actually
showed up, and we served them egg salad sandwiches and lemonade for
lunch.

It was only many years later that I realized we were hosting Jimmy
Page. I don't know if he liked our egg salad sandwiches.

Doris

On 7/11/2015 11:00 PM, Doris Night wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 17:32:50 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2015-07-11 4:58 PM, wrote:
>>> The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was
>>> about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and
>>> high tides.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The first major concert I attended was enough for me. I saw the Beatles
>> on Toronto in 1965. The only music I heard was the opener, King Curtis.
>> Once the Beatles cam on stage all I could hear was thousands of teen age
>> girls scream hysterically. I never heard a note of their music.
>
> You were there too?
>
> My father stood in line to get tickets for me and a couple of my
> friends. If I remember correctly, CHUM FM or another radio station was
> giving out roses to parents who got tickets for their kids.
>
> And I was the teenage girl screaming the loudest. :-)
>
>> However..... I got to see Jimmy Hendrix.... and didn't realize it more
>> more than 30 years. I learned that the guitarist for King Curtis on
>> that tour was Hendrix. Unfortunately, at the age of 14 I was not into R&B.
>
> My big music moment was in around 1968. My dad was in the military,
> and was posted to Germany. Us underage kids used to go out to the
> clubs drinking. One night, we went to a place where there was an
> unknown band called the Yardbirds playing. My girlfriend and I invited
> the guys in the band back to her house the next day. They actually
> showed up, and we served them egg salad sandwiches and lemonade for
> lunch.
>
> It was only many years later that I realized we were hosting Jimmy
> Page. I don't know if he liked our egg salad sandwiches.
>
> Doris
>
That's a fun memory!

Jill

Doris Night wrote:
>
> My big music moment was in around 1968. My dad was in the military,
> and was posted to Germany. Us underage kids used to go out to the
> clubs drinking. One night, we went to a place where there was an
> unknown band called the Yardbirds playing. My girlfriend and I invited
> the guys in the band back to her house the next day. They actually
> showed up, and we served them egg salad sandwiches and lemonade for
> lunch.
>
> It was only many years later that I realized we were hosting Jimmy
> Page. I don't know if he liked our egg salad sandwiches.

Wow. I vote this the coolest old music moment so far. :-D

Back around 1977, I found myself on the stage (behind one speaker
stack) while Aerosmith performed only 10' away from where I was
standing. It was awesome until I finally heard someone yelling at me
from behind in a RAGE. It was the stage manager and he was yelling,
"GET THE HELL OFF THE STAGE OR I'LL BEAT THE F***ING CRAP OUT OF YOU!"

So I said, "oh ok...sorry" and I got off the stage with no injuries.
heheh It was an epic moment for me though as I loved the band.

I like the Outlaws song diablo canyon.

On 7/12/2015 9:06 AM, wrote:
> I like the Outlaws song diablo canyon.
>
I like candy corn.

On 7/12/2015 12:47 PM, Acme Bully Control wrote:
> On 7/11/2015 2:58 PM, wrote:
>> The best concert I ever saw was the Outlaws when in college, I was
>> about 3 rows from the stage, much too loud. Think green grass and high
>> tides.
>>
> Or Can't Touch This...

FRAUD!

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
> concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
> October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
> today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get them
> too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
> ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>
> Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>
> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
> Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
> available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was $175-
> $350.
>
> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
> to get sucked into that scam.

The last concert I was saw Kenny Rankin. It was a great concert! He died shortly after that. I guess we lucked out because I would have felt awful if I blew off my last chance to see him play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGkvYOHC06I

On 7/10/2015 7:45 PM, graham wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> What a ripoff!!! My son had offered to take me to a Mark Knopfler
>> concert for my birthday. He is playing at the Niagara Falls casino in
>> October. He was going to try to get tickets when they went on sale
>> today at noon. He called the other day to suggest that I try to get
>> them
>> too in case he had trouble. As it turned out, we both had the
>> ticketmaster site open at noon and tried as soon as the clock turned.
>>
>> Sold Out!!!!! seconds after they went on sale ??????????
>>
>> He tried another outlet. There were some tickets available.
>> Ticketmaster had listed seats as costing from $97 to $147.. but none
>> available. Another agency had separate seats, but there price was
>> $175-
>> $350.
>>
>> Knopfler is IMP one of the world's greatest guitarists, but I am not
>> going to pay that much to see him play, and I sure as hell am not going
>> to get sucked into that scam.
>>
> Some think that the resellers are in fact Ticketmaster in disguise.
> Concerts frequently sell out in seconds and the conspiracy theory
> gains traction.

Besides getting their contractually agreed-upon free tickets to
distribute to friends and VIPS, the performers themselves usually also
purchase blocks of tickets in order to resell them at a profit to
third party sellers. Between the peformer hold, the promoter hold, the
local media hold, and the fan club hold, the venue hold/employee
pre-buy, the number of tickets available for purchase at the moment
Ticketmaster opens sales can sometimes be rather minimal.

My second concert experience (back in the 70s) had me as the second
person in line at the box office, only to discover that the first
fourteen rows had been sold out even before the box office opened. I
quickly learned that the best way to get good seats at shows is to
cultivate friendships with the concert promoters and box office
employees. No more standing in line, excellent seats always.