On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 6:01:14 PM UTC-5, Je�us wrote:
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> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:59:20 -0600, graham > wrote:
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> >On 19/07/2015 11:39 AM, wrote:
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> >> Can you return the red wine and the other case of white
> >> wine for a refund?
> >>
> >When you buy something, it's a contract unless there's a return for
> >refund agreement.
>
> Well, you have crap consumer laws over there if that's the case.
>
>
He's just rattling on. The very, very few stores here that
do not have a return/refund policy don't last long. They'd
certainly not get my business if that is their policy.

On 7/20/2015 10:20 AM, wrote:
Vice-President Dick Cheney recently returned to the UFO capitol of the
world - Roswell, New Mexico. It was his first trip there since a visit
there during the waning days of the 2000 Presidential campaign.

During his first Roswell visit in late October 2000, newspapers reported,

"Cheney was greeted by a sign that depicted a little green man with
a heart and the name ‘Cheney’—as in ‘Space Aliens Love Cheney.’" Because
Cheney had been a former Secretary of Defense, many within the UFO
community speculated that the visit might have been a hint at an
upcoming UFO disclosure. Even the October 26, 2000 New York Times noted
the extraterrestrial significance of the Cheney stopover with its
headline "The Alien Factor: And Out in Roswell."

Another reason for the Ufological optimism was that the 2000 Roswell
visit by Cheney occurred shortly after the now infamous meeting between
presidential candidate George W. Bush and Arkansas native Charles
Huffer. It was during that July 2000 campaign encounter that Huffer
asked George Bush if he were elected President would he disclose,

"the truth about UFOs." Bush in reply stated "Sure. I will... It
will be the first thing he (pointing to Cheney) will do. He’ll get right
on it."

Therefore, when Cheney arrived in Roswell a few months later, many
thought it was a sign of positive things to come. Cheney, to the
disappointment of many UFO watchers, simply made his speech with no
mention of E.T.s or anything remotely close, and flew on to Wyoming.
Disclosure didn’t come, but the UFO hopefuls still remained optimistic.

The latest October 2002 visit by Cheney to Roswell also came with signs
that this too could be a nod and a wink to the UFO community. Instead of
speaking at the town hall as he had in 2000, Cheney chose to speak to
the 3,000 faithful inside Hanger 32 at the Roswell Industrial Air
Center. (Formally Roswell Army Air Field) This hanger, of course, is
just a hop and a skip down the tarmac from Hanger 84 where the Roswell
alien bodies were rumored to have been stored following the now famous
1947 Roswell weather balloon crash.

The most recent visit to the old Roswell Air Base also closely mimicked
the visit a fellow Republican, and former president, Ronald Reagan made
to the base for a campaign speech for then Senator Harrison Schmitt in
1982. Like Cheney, Reagan made a short stopover Roswell speech in late
October, just prior to the mid-term election.

Like the Cheney visits, the Reagan visit to the Roswell Air Base also
stirred up the UFO community, occurring only months after Steven
Spielberg had visited the White House and had given a private screening
of "E.T.: The Extraterrestrial" for Reagan and three dozen of his close
friends and colleagues. While giving his Roswell speech, Reagan always
prepared to play to the audience, even mentioned the popular "E.T." in
his speech.

On 7/19/2015 6:57 PM, Acme Bully Control wrote:
> During his first Roswell
Jethro FRAUD!

On 7/20/2015 11:16 AM, Troll Disposal Service wrote:
> On 7/19/2015 6:57 PM, Acme Bully Control wrote:
>> During his first Roswell
> Jethro FRAUD!
>
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!


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On 2015-07-19 20:20, wrote:

>> Well, you have crap consumer laws over there if that's the case.
>>
>>
> He's just rattling on. The very, very few stores here that
> do not have a return/refund policy don't last long. They'd
> certainly not get my business if that is their policy.

Stores should stand behind the products they sell. If you buy a product
that fails to deliver they should offer a replacement or a refund. If,
OTOH, you want to return something because you don't really need it....
that would depend on the product. You can't order 2 pounds of meat from
your butcher and decide a day or two later that you don't need that much
and expect a refund.

On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:21:42 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-07-19 20:20, wrote:
>
>>> Well, you have crap consumer laws over there if that's the case.
>>>
>>>
>> He's just rattling on. The very, very few stores here that
>> do not have a return/refund policy don't last long. They'd
>> certainly not get my business if that is their policy.
>
>Stores should stand behind the products they sell. If you buy a product
>that fails to deliver they should offer a replacement or a refund. If,
>OTOH, you want to return something because you don't really need it....
>that would depend on the product. You can't order 2 pounds of meat from
>your butcher and decide a day or two later that you don't need that much
>and expect a refund.
>

There will always be someone that will try to though. Most stores
have liberal return policies, but they do have to protect themselves a
bit. Food store will take back anything found to be spoiled.

Records, CDs, tapes, have never been returnable unless defective or
unopened. If they just took them back, people would watch the movie
or copy the CD and return it.

People do buy specialty tools, use them, return them. Pure abuse and
stealing from the retailer and we all pay for that.

To answer the original comment, there are plenty of laws in place to
protect the consumer if a product is defective. Stores can also
protect themselves from the abusers too.

On Sunday, July 19, 2015 at 9:22:22 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
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> On 2015-07-19 20:20, wrote:
>
> >> Well, you have crap consumer laws over there if that's the case.
> >>
> >>
> > He's just rattling on. The very, very few stores here that
> > do not have a return/refund policy don't last long. They'd
> > certainly not get my business if that is their policy.
>
> Stores should stand behind the products they sell. If you buy a product
> that fails to deliver they should offer a replacement or a refund. If,
> OTOH, you want to return something because you don't really need it....
> that would depend on the product. You can't order 2 pounds of meat from
> your butcher and decide a day or two later that you don't need that much
> and expect a refund.
>
>
True, true.

It's rare I return something for a refund. The hassle of
driving back to the store, usually standing in line, explaining
why I'm returning it, etc.

A few weeks ago I bought a small wedge of Stella blue cheese
but mistakenly picked u the smoked version. Blech! I didn't
like it at all but did manage to get it down. A week or two
later I bought another wedge but made sure I did not pick up
the smoked version and told the cashier of my previous
mistake. She said I should have returned it for a refund.
It never entered my mind to take it back and it wasn't
worth the drive back to the store as it was MY mistake.