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Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > Hamlet: To have knitted socks or not to have knitted socks?
> > (short pause) Not to have knitted socks.

>
> Oi careful <g>


This was actually a joke about an old Arnold S. movie,
"Last Action Hero"

In that movie, Arnold was playing Hamlet....
They showed him sitting outside with the castle in the background...

Arnold: To be or not to be. <short pause> Not to be.
And he pushed a remote control and the castle behind him exploded.
heheh

It was a funny part to me.
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On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:35:37 AM UTC-4, wrote:

> I am not knitting thick, heavy socks, except for those who want them
> and I also do two or three pairs of those to give to a mens shelter
> downtown, they love them. I knit on tiny sized needles with very
> fine wool and I know myself I can wear them with the shoes I wear all
> year, no problem. I just switch when the temperature drops. They are
> thin, but warm.


Still wool, though. Not gonna be up against my skin. I'll stick
with acrylic and cotton. And when they wear out, I darn them by
saying "Darned socks" as they hit the trash bin. Just threw out
some cotton socks I'd had for 20 years.

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In article >,
says...
>
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:20:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:46:30 -0300,
wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:50:18 -0400, S Viemeister
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On 7/24/2015 4:59 PM, Janet wrote:
> >> >>> In article >,
says...
> >> >>>> Really? Who in the world would spend time to knit socks?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My grandchildrens other grandmother in Norway. Her hand knit socks
> >> >>> are works of art, and very, very expensive.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Who ever wears home knitted socks?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scots
> >> >>>
> >> >>Yes.
> >> >>The little gift shop down the road from my house sells loads of handknit
> >> >>socks.
> >> >>
> >> >My neighbour just returned from three weeks in Newfoundland - this
> >> >morning we are going to the yarn shop so she can buy three or four of
> >> >sock yarns to send back to her sister who will then take them to her
> >> >yarn shop to get them stocking it.
> >> >
> >> >All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand knitted
> >> >socks must never have had a pair!
> >>
> >> The mere thought of a life without hand knitted socks sends shivers
> >> down my spine.

> >
> > You need a hand knitted vest.
> >
> > Janet UK

>
> Explain 'vest' in UK terms. A vest here is an over garment. I think
> you are meaning something like what we would call an undershirt?
> Janet US


http://s203.photobucket.com/user/1li...-vest.jpg.html

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On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 1:32:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:35:37 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> >> I am not knitting thick, heavy socks, except for those who want them
> >> and I also do two or three pairs of those to give to a mens shelter
> >> downtown, they love them. I knit on tiny sized needles with very
> >> fine wool and I know myself I can wear them with the shoes I wear all
> >> year, no problem. I just switch when the temperature drops. They are
> >> thin, but warm.

> >
> >Still wool, though. Not gonna be up against my skin. I'll stick
> >with acrylic and cotton. And when they wear out, I darn them by
> >saying "Darned socks" as they hit the trash bin. Just threw out
> >some cotton socks I'd had for 20 years.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton

>
> I would have thought it was hard to keep their shape in cotton, but I
> have never tried it and do like cotton sweaters.


These were machine-knitted crew socks. Bought them very cheaply at Kmart
or someplace like that. Except for fading and getting thin at the
heels, they looked just like the day I bought them. Perhaps there
was some elastic in them; the packaging is long, long gone.

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > Hamlet: To have knitted socks or not to have knitted socks?
>> > (short pause) Not to have knitted socks.

>>
>> Oi careful <g>

>
> This was actually a joke about an old Arnold S. movie,
> "Last Action Hero"
>
> In that movie, Arnold was playing Hamlet....
> They showed him sitting outside with the castle in the background...
>
> Arnold: To be or not to be. <short pause> Not to be.
> And he pushed a remote control and the castle behind him exploded.
> heheh
>
> It was a funny part to me.


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> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:50:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:51:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On 7/25/2015 7:34 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 6:46 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand
>>>>>>>> knitted
>>>>>>>> socks must never have had a pair!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or only poorly-executed, ill-fitting ones, made with unsuitable
>>>>>>> yarn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never had any hand knitted socks. My Grandmother was always
>>>>>> knitting 'AB' socks for sailors, but I never got any
>>>>>>
>>>>> You poor thing.
>>>>> Time you got out your needles, then!
>>>>> We should have a sock knitalong.
>>>>
>>>>Heh, atm I am knitting a coat for my new (to me) dog. When I got her
>>>>she
>>>>was so thin, I thought she would need one for the winter . But, she has
>>>>gained quite a lot of weight since then and the vet has advised she lose
>>>>a
>>>>kg <g>
>>> Is she a short-haired or long-haired dog? I knit a sweater for my
>>> German Shorthaired Pointer and the thing kept creeping backward. As
>>> he walked, the bristly short hairs would grab the knit and pull it
>>> backward.. Darn! I was always so difficult to find coats for a
>>> really deep-chested dog.

>>
>>Fairly short. She is a Collie/Whippet. The Whippet part means she is
>>very
>>narrow in the chest and body with long legs, a small Collie face and a
>>long Whippet nose <g> Oh yes she has totally Collie colouring Her coat
>>is not as long as that of a Collie, but it is longer than a Whippet. It
>>is
>>soft though and not at all bristly so I hope I don't have your problems
>>with
>>it.
>>
>>It was very hard to find a rain coat for her in the pet shops as she is so
>>narrow and I had to order a special one for Whippets. Even then I had to
>>add extra velcro so it would fasten higher or it just sagged around her
>>neck. Once I did that it is fine, it just looks a bit odd when some of
>>the
>>fastening is up around her ear
>>
>>I guess I will be able to report back when the weather gets colder. I
>>first started to knit one in a pretty blue, then realised that since she
>>is
>>black and white, it might not look too good. Anyway, I am now knitting a
>>black one now

>
> I don't think she'd mind blue - it would look grey to her anyway
>
> (There's a dog that sure fell on her feet this time round!!!!)


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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:50:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Janet B" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:51:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 7/25/2015 7:34 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 6:46 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand knitted
>>>>>>> socks must never have had a pair!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or only poorly-executed, ill-fitting ones, made with unsuitable yarn.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never had any hand knitted socks. My Grandmother was always
>>>>> knitting 'AB' socks for sailors, but I never got any
>>>>>
>>>> You poor thing.
>>>> Time you got out your needles, then!
>>>> We should have a sock knitalong.
>>>
>>>Heh, atm I am knitting a coat for my new (to me) dog. When I got her she
>>>was so thin, I thought she would need one for the winter . But, she has
>>>gained quite a lot of weight since then and the vet has advised she lose a
>>>kg <g>

>> Is she a short-haired or long-haired dog? I knit a sweater for my
>> German Shorthaired Pointer and the thing kept creeping backward. As
>> he walked, the bristly short hairs would grab the knit and pull it
>> backward.. Darn! I was always so difficult to find coats for a
>> really deep-chested dog.

>
>Fairly short. She is a Collie/Whippet. The Whippet part means she is very
>narrow in the chest and body with long legs, a small Collie face and a
>long Whippet nose <g> Oh yes she has totally Collie colouring Her coat
>is not as long as that of a Collie, but it is longer than a Whippet. It is
>soft though and not at all bristly so I hope I don't have your problems with
>it.
>
>It was very hard to find a rain coat for her in the pet shops as she is so
>narrow and I had to order a special one for Whippets. Even then I had to
>add extra velcro so it would fasten higher or it just sagged around her
>neck. Once I did that it is fine, it just looks a bit odd when some of the
>fastening is up around her ear
>
>I guess I will be able to report back when the weather gets colder. I
>first started to knit one in a pretty blue, then realised that since she is
>black and white, it might not look too good. Anyway, I am now knitting a
>black one now


she's a girl. she needs pretties.
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:33:19 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:20:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> says...
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:46:30 -0300, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:50:18 -0400, S Viemeister
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On 7/24/2015 4:59 PM, Janet wrote:
>> >> >>> In article >,
says...
>> >> >>>> Really? Who in the world would spend time to knit socks?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> My grandchildrens other grandmother in Norway. Her hand knit socks
>> >> >>> are works of art, and very, very expensive.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Who ever wears home knitted socks?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Scots
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>Yes.
>> >> >>The little gift shop down the road from my house sells loads of handknit
>> >> >>socks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >My neighbour just returned from three weeks in Newfoundland - this
>> >> >morning we are going to the yarn shop so she can buy three or four of
>> >> >sock yarns to send back to her sister who will then take them to her
>> >> >yarn shop to get them stocking it.
>> >> >
>> >> >All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand knitted
>> >> >socks must never have had a pair!
>> >>
>> >> The mere thought of a life without hand knitted socks sends shivers
>> >> down my spine.
>> >
>> > You need a hand knitted vest.
>> >
>> > Janet UK

>>
>> Explain 'vest' in UK terms. A vest here is an over garment. I think
>> you are meaning something like what we would call an undershirt?
>> Janet US

>
>
http://s203.photobucket.com/user/1li...-vest.jpg.html
>
> Janet UK

thanks )
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On 7/25/2015 12:58 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:35:07 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:


>> I admit the idea brings back memories of getting hand knit
>> slippers for Christmas as a kid. They would burn the bottom
>> of my feet due to the bumpy stitches. I hated wearing them.

>
> That would drive me nuts, too. I have even had store-bought socks that
> "burn" my feet and have chucked them


Burning is the only description that came to mind. I've
also thrown out socks that bring back that feeling, otherwise
they just jam up my sock drawer making me feel guilty.

>> I guess a knit/purl stitch would work with the smooth side in.
>> Not knocking hand knit socks, I was looking at images and it's
>> great to see the work that goes into them. Beautiful.


> Good sock yarn is even softer than baby yarn and is knitted at such a
> small gauge that it should be comfy...."should" being the operative
> word there. One tries, but tootsie sensitivities vary.


You wouldn't think I had such delicate feet. Heh. I can't imagine
trying those long ago slippers after using Baby Foot. Now, that
would smart.

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"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:50:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Janet B" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:51:08 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"S Viemeister" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On 7/25/2015 7:34 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote
>>>>>>> On 7/25/2015 6:46 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand
>>>>>>>> knitted
>>>>>>>> socks must never have had a pair!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or only poorly-executed, ill-fitting ones, made with unsuitable
>>>>>>> yarn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never had any hand knitted socks. My Grandmother was always
>>>>>> knitting 'AB' socks for sailors, but I never got any
>>>>>>
>>>>> You poor thing.
>>>>> Time you got out your needles, then!
>>>>> We should have a sock knitalong.
>>>>
>>>>Heh, atm I am knitting a coat for my new (to me) dog. When I got her
>>>>she
>>>>was so thin, I thought she would need one for the winter . But, she has
>>>>gained quite a lot of weight since then and the vet has advised she lose
>>>>a
>>>>kg <g>
>>> Is she a short-haired or long-haired dog? I knit a sweater for my
>>> German Shorthaired Pointer and the thing kept creeping backward. As
>>> he walked, the bristly short hairs would grab the knit and pull it
>>> backward.. Darn! I was always so difficult to find coats for a
>>> really deep-chested dog.

>>
>>Fairly short. She is a Collie/Whippet. The Whippet part means she is
>>very
>>narrow in the chest and body with long legs, a small Collie face and a
>>long Whippet nose <g> Oh yes she has totally Collie colouring Her coat
>>is not as long as that of a Collie, but it is longer than a Whippet. It
>>is
>>soft though and not at all bristly so I hope I don't have your problems
>>with
>>it.
>>
>>It was very hard to find a rain coat for her in the pet shops as she is so
>>narrow and I had to order a special one for Whippets. Even then I had to
>>add extra velcro so it would fasten higher or it just sagged around her
>>neck. Once I did that it is fine, it just looks a bit odd when some of
>>the
>>fastening is up around her ear
>>
>>I guess I will be able to report back when the weather gets colder. I
>>first started to knit one in a pretty blue, then realised that since she
>>is
>>black and white, it might not look too good. Anyway, I am now knitting a
>>black one now

>
> she's a girl. she needs pretties.


Hmm I never thought of that. I just thought it would look smarter since she
is black and white ...


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On 25/07/2015 9:40 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> It's the same sort of reaction if you give or receive a bath robe as a
>> gift. Gee, thanks!

>
> And back to OB food.... when my daughter was young, I would often
> experiment with new meals. I would always ask if she liked them (and a
> friend of hers too that almost lived here full time).
>
> In the beginning, they would always highly praise the meals even if
> they didn't like them. They were afraid of offending my cooking.
> heheh Big mistake too because once they convinced me that they loved
> the meal, I would make repeat dinners often.
>
> It finally came to light. I told them to be completely honest. I
> experiment and I won't be offended if you don't like something....but
> tell me you love it and you'll get it again.
>
> Everyone has different tastes, nobody would ever "offend" me by saying
> they don't like what I made.
>
> G.
>

The opposite happened to me. I'd make stews from blade steak that they
really loved. However, I hated the flavour.
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On 25/07/2015 12:42 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:33:19 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:20:22 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article >,
>>>>
lid says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:46:30 -0300,
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:50:18 -0400, S Viemeister
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/24/2015 4:59 PM, Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article >,
says...
>>>>>>>>> Really? Who in the world would spend time to knit socks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My grandchildrens other grandmother in Norway. Her hand knit socks
>>>>>>>> are works of art, and very, very expensive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who ever wears home knitted socks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>> The little gift shop down the road from my house sells loads of handknit
>>>>>>> socks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> My neighbour just returned from three weeks in Newfoundland - this
>>>>>> morning we are going to the yarn shop so she can buy three or four of
>>>>>> sock yarns to send back to her sister who will then take them to her
>>>>>> yarn shop to get them stocking it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I can say is that people who believe they don't like hand knitted
>>>>>> socks must never have had a pair!
>>>>>
>>>>> The mere thought of a life without hand knitted socks sends shivers
>>>>> down my spine.
>>>>
>>>> You need a hand knitted vest.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> Explain 'vest' in UK terms. A vest here is an over garment. I think
>>> you are meaning something like what we would call an undershirt?
>>> Janet US

>>
>>
http://s203.photobucket.com/user/1li...-vest.jpg.html
>>
>> Janet UK

> thanks )
> Janet US
>

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:25:16 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 25/07/2015 12:42 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:33:19 +0100, Janet > wrote:
>>
>>> I

snip
>>>>
>>>> Explain 'vest' in UK terms. A vest here is an over garment. I think
>>>> you are meaning something like what we would call an undershirt?
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> http://s203.photobucket.com/user/1li...-vest.jpg.html
>>>
>>> Janet UK

>> thanks )
>> Janet US
>>

>Also: http://tiny.cc/wv310x
>
>Graham

thank you
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> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:33:52 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
wrote:
>>>
>>> These are this years for Xmas - can't believe I am doing this - must
>>> go for walkies and be constructive I store them in a small
>>> camphorwood chest, out of sight.
>>>
>>> http://tinypic.com/r/5nrj8h/8

>>
>>OMG! Your work is amazing - seriously. I still would not wear things
>>like that. IMO, those are "art" and not just "socks" and hat. You
>>definitely have the talent. Thank you for posting that picture. I'm so
>>very impressed.
>>
>>No more picking on you about knitting, that's for sure.

>
> When I was out walking (in the rain) it suddenly occurred to me, I
> give them socks as part of their present, they are not the whole
> present. Particularly little ones I like to buy this and that
> throughout the year so they each have a box with lots of things in it.


And I imagine that they would be treasured by the older ones. Very nice.

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On 7/27/2015 3:10 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
Perhaps Bush shares the same views as his wife Barbara, who told ABC's
"Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003 "Why should we hear about body
bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?" In December 2011, current
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who was formerly the CIA Director,
similarly said that the systematic slaughter of 1.5 million Iraqis and
the destruction of their nation was also "worth it": "As difficult as
[the Iraq invasion and occupation] was, and the cost in both American
and Iraqi lives, "I think the price has been worth it, to establish a
stable government in a very important region of the world".

There are no photos of George H.W. Bush at his Masonic Yale Skulll and
Bones 'tomb' which admitedly has skeletins of dead human babies hanging
on the walls: "Dozens of skeletons and skulls, human and animal, dangle
from the walls, on which German and Latin phrases have been chiseled
("Whether poor or rich, all are equal in death") [Skull & Bones Society
- A rare look inside Skull and Bones, the Yale secret society by
Alexandra Robbins. See alsoCremationofcare skull & bones archive and
Bilderberg.org for more details on this matter.]
Bush's father Prescott, the Nazi financier, and his son, George W. Bush,
were also both members of Skull and Bones. In his autobiography, George
W. Bush wrote "My senior year (at Yale University) I joined Skull and
Bones, a secret society ... so secret, I can't say anything more."
[White House 'Bonesman' leads nation into the dark USATODAY 9/25/02.] In
2004 both George W. Bush and his cousin John Kerry laughed about the
secrecy of their Skull and Bones memberships in separate TV interviews
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On 7/26/2015 12:28 PM, Troll Disposal Service wrote:
> Perhaps Bush shares the same views


http://townhall.com/columnists/johnh...2995/page/full

1) “Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped
you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably
going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take
things away from you on behalf of the common good.” – Hillary Clinton

2) “Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses
that create jobs.” -- Hillary Clinton

3) “You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil
and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses
to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go
on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.” –
Hillary Clinton

4) “I can’t worry about every undercapitalized business” — Hillary
Clinton testifying before Congress on the effects of Nationalized Health
Care.

5) “Yes, we've cut the maternal mortality rate in half, but far too many
women are still denied critical access to reproductive health care and
safe childbirth, and laws don't count for much if they're not enforced.
Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper. Laws have to be
backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural
codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed.” –
Hillary Clinton

6) "We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of
the great challenges facing all of us in the West." -- Hillary Clinton
per Barbara Olson's Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham
Clinton

7) "There are rich people everywhere. And yet they do not contribute to
the growth of their own countries.....They don't invest in public
schools, in public hospitals, in other kinds of development internally."
– Hillary Clinton

8) "No. We just can't trust the American people to make those types of
choices ... Government has to make those choices for people." – Hillary
Clinton

9) "If you have guns in your home, tell your parents to keep them away
from you and your friends and your little brothers and sisters." --
Hillary Clinton to middle school students

10) "I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be
registered in a national registry..." -- Hillary Clinton

11) "I think again we’re way out of balance. We’ve got to rein in what
has become almost an article of faith that almost anybody can have a gun
anywhere at any time. And I don’t believe that is in the best interest
of the vast majority of people." -- Hillary Clinton

12) "We came out of the White House not only dead-broke, but in debt. We
had no money when we got there and we struggled to piece together the
resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea's education. It was not
easy." – Hillary Clinton

13) “I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some
kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with
our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” — Hillary
Clinton makes up a ridiculous, untrue story about her trip to Bosnia.

14) “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no
evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11,
2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will
continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical
warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

15) "There’s a different leader in Syria now. Many of the members of
Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have
said they believe he’s a reformer." -- Hillary Clinton on tyrannical
maniac Bashar Assad

16) “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was
it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one
night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point,
does it make?” -- Hillary Clinton

17) “My husband may have his faults, but he has never lied to me.” --
Hillary Clinton per Kim Eisler's Masters of the Game: Inside the World's
Most Powerful Law Firm

18) "Put this (helicopter) on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the
limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!" -- Hillary Clinton
from Air Force Lt. Colonel Robert Patterson's Dereliction of Duty.

19) "I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have
learned (about Islam) has come from my daughter. (As) some of you who
are our friends know, she took a course last year in Islamic history." –
Hillary Clinton

20) “The last time I actually drove a car myself was 1996.” -- Hillary
Clinton



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On 7/26/2015 2:12 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
As Jeb Bush prepares for his imminent presidential campaign, the
American people must keep in mind just who this man is and the crimes he
committed rigging the 2000 presidential election, which put his brother
George W. in the Oval Office, set us on the road to the Iraq War, the
Great Recession, destroyed America’s standing in the world, altered
American history forever.

Jeb Bush just so happened to be the Governor of Florida during that
election, and as you may recall, the Florida vote was so close that
recounts were requested and eventually declared his brother the winner.
Katherine Harris, Jeb’s secretary of state and the co-chair of the
George W. campaign, organized the election system that somehow ended up
losing or spoiling the ballots of hundreds of thousands of
African-American voters, who just so coincidentally tend to vote
Democratic. During the recount period, it is documented that the
Governor’s office made 95 calls to the Bush campaign- calls which Jeb
somehow “cannot remember” the reason for. That answer is unacceptable
for allegations of such importance. Why can’t you remember, Jeb?


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On 7/24/2015 8:39 AM, Dr. Edward Morbius wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.
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