On 7/30/2015 8:20 AM, Cheri wrote:
The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America
and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms
a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity,
Jesus, or any supreme being. (For those who think the date of the
Constitution contradicts the last sentence, see note 1 at the end.) The
U.S. government derives from people (not God), as it clearly states in
the preamble: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a
more perfect Union...." The omission of God in the Constitution did not
come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers
purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.

Although the Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of
Church & State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." However, the
Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment. As to our freedoms, the
1st Amendment provides exclusionary wording:

Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[bold caps, mine]

Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his
January 1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist
Association calling it a "wall of separation between church and State."
Madison had also written that "Strongly guarded. . . is the separation
between religion and government in the Constitution of the United
States." There existed little controversy about this interpretation from
our Founding Fathers.

If religionists better understood the concept of separation of Church &
State, they would realize that the wall of separation actually protects
their religion. Our secular government allows the free expression of
religion and non-religion. Today, religions flourish in America; we have
more churches than Seven-Elevens.

Although many secular and atheist groups today support and fight for the
wall of separation, this does not mean that they wish to lawfully
eliminate religion from society. On the contrary, you will find no
secular or atheist group attempting to ban Christianity, or any other
religion from American society. Keeping religion separate allows
atheists and religionists alike, to practice their belief systems,
regardless how ridiculous they may seem, without government intervention.

Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:45:15 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > A few months ago I cooked a 4 lb. chuck roast in the crock pot. I
> > froze the leftovers in individual portions.
> >
> > For dinner tonight, I had a portion of chuck roast, mashed russet
> > potatoes and Fordhook lima beans. Yep, I love lima beans.
> >
> > http://i59.tinypic.com/fclnxf.jpg
> >
> > If you looked at the picture you may have noticed I didn't put
> > gravy on the mashed potatoes. When it comes to mashed potatoes I
> > really prefer only butter, S&P.
> >
> > What did you have for dinner tonight?
> >
> > Jill
> Pulled pork. I really do not care for pulled pork but my husband
> loves it so I make it 3,4 times a year. I have finally settled on a
> happy compromise. I pull half the roast and leave half in one piece.
> Husband can have his pulled pork with sauce and I can have cold sliced
> pork sandwiches.
> Janet US

Oddly, I do that too. I have a big one going right now. I didnt check
size before I opened the package but Don had to trim it a bit to fit in
the large oval crockpot (trimmed bit in the freezer).

I plan several meals from it, only some to be pulled pork.

Carol

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Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Janet B wrote:
> >
> > Pulled pork. I really do not care for pulled pork but my husband
> > loves it so I do it 3,4 times a year.
>
> Most men enjoy their pork pulled 3-4 times a year.

Snicker!

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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > I pulled a small meatloaf out of the freezer and made some onion &
> > mushroom gravy to go over it. I also heated up some baked beans and
> > a bit of scalloped potatoes from a couple of nights ago. The
> > greenery was supplied by a cucumber out of our garden.
> >
> > It was really good.
>
> That is very interesting. I eat cucumber with salad but would never
> have though of using it with hot cooked food.

To us it is a side vegetable all on it's own. We slice it at an angle
(for pretty) and have little japanese dip bowls with various dressings.
Often fixed with a simple rice and fish.

Carol

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On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 16:19:14 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Pulled pork. I really do not care for pulled pork but my husband
> > loves it so I make it 3,4 times a year. I have finally settled on a
> > happy compromise. I pull half the roast and leave half in one piece.
> > Husband can have his pulled pork with sauce and I can have cold sliced
> > pork sandwiches.
> > Janet US
>
> Oddly, I do that too. I have a big one going right now. I didnt check
> size before I opened the package but Don had to trim it a bit to fit in
> the large oval crockpot (trimmed bit in the freezer).
>
> I plan several meals from it, only some to be pulled pork.
>

Me too. Hubby isn't crazy about any form of BBQ sauce and prefers his
dinner on a plate, so I slice his, serve it with a couple of sides and
make a pulled pork sandwich for myself. The rest of it is used for
carnitas and other pork based dinners ending in my version of posole,
which uses fresh corn in place of the hominy.


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sf

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 16:19:14 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > Pulled pork. I really do not care for pulled pork but my husband
> > > loves it so I make it 3,4 times a year. I have finally settled
> > > on a happy compromise. I pull half the roast and leave half in
> > > one piece. Husband can have his pulled pork with sauce and I can
> > > have cold sliced pork sandwiches.
> > > Janet US
> >
> > Oddly, I do that too. I have a big one going right now. I didnt
> > check size before I opened the package but Don had to trim it a bit
> > to fit in the large oval crockpot (trimmed bit in the freezer).
> >
> > I plan several meals from it, only some to be pulled pork.
> >
>
> Me too. Hubby isn't crazy about any form of BBQ sauce and prefers his
> dinner on a plate, so I slice his, serve it with a couple of sides and
> make a pulled pork sandwich for myself. The rest of it is used for
> carnitas and other pork based dinners ending in my version of posole,
> which uses fresh corn in place of the hominy.

I might wantto try that Posole for a work lunch. Got a rough idea of
how you do it?

Carol

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On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 18:51:41 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 16:19:14 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > Janet B wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > Pulled pork. I really do not care for pulled pork but my husband
> > > > loves it so I make it 3,4 times a year. I have finally settled
> > > > on a happy compromise. I pull half the roast and leave half in
> > > > one piece. Husband can have his pulled pork with sauce and I can
> > > > have cold sliced pork sandwiches.
> > > > Janet US
> > >
> > > Oddly, I do that too. I have a big one going right now. I didnt
> > > check size before I opened the package but Don had to trim it a bit
> > > to fit in the large oval crockpot (trimmed bit in the freezer).
> > >
> > > I plan several meals from it, only some to be pulled pork.
> > >
> >
> > Me too. Hubby isn't crazy about any form of BBQ sauce and prefers his
> > dinner on a plate, so I slice his, serve it with a couple of sides and
> > make a pulled pork sandwich for myself. The rest of it is used for
> > carnitas and other pork based dinners ending in my version of posole,
> > which uses fresh corn in place of the hominy.
>
> I might wantto try that Posole for a work lunch. Got a rough idea of
> how you do it?
>

It varies according to what I have in the refrigerator. Look at any
posole recipe (which seem to vary by cook) and use what appeals. I
use the pork broth and extend it with chicken broth if necessary,
fresh chilies that I prepare and keep in the freezer, some salsa,
onion, cilantro, leftover bits of pork, seasonings and the corn.
Other additions can be tomatoes and/or beans.

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sf

On 8/2/2015 9:13 AM, sf wrote:
The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense
founded on the Christian religion

The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America
and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms
a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity,
Jesus, or any supreme being. (For those who think the date of the
Constitution contradicts the last sentence, see note 1 at the end.) The
U.S. government derives from people (not God), as it clearly states in
the preamble: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a
more perfect Union...." The omission of God in the Constitution did not
come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers
purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.

Although the Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of
Church & State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." However, the
Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment. As to our freedoms, the
1st Amendment provides exclusionary wording:

Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[bold caps, mine]

Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his
January 1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist
Association calling it a "wall of separation between church and State."
Madison had also written that "Strongly guarded. . . is the separation
between religion and government in the Constitution of the United
States." There existed little controversy about this interpretation from
our Founding Fathers.

If religionists better understood the concept of separation of Church &
State, they would realize that the wall of separation actually protects
their religion. Our secular government allows the free expression of
religion and non-religion. Today, religions flourish in America; we have
more churches than Seven-Elevens.

Although many secular and atheist groups today support and fight for the
wall of separation, this does not mean that they wish to lawfully
eliminate religion from society. On the contrary, you will find no
secular or atheist group attempting to ban Christianity, or any other
religion from American society. Keeping religion separate allows
atheists and religionists alike, to practice their belief systems,
regardless how ridiculous they may seem, without government intervention.

On 7/30/2015 12:12 PM, Sky wrote:
As Jeb Bush prepares for his imminent presidential campaign, the
American people must keep in mind just who this man is and the crimes he
committed rigging the 2000 presidential election, which put his brother
George W. in the Oval Office, set us on the road to the Iraq War, the
Great Recession, destroyed America’s standing in the world, altered
American history forever.

Jeb Bush just so happened to be the Governor of Florida during that
election, and as you may recall, the Florida vote was so close that
recounts were requested and eventually declared his brother the winner.
Katherine Harris, Jeb’s secretary of state and the co-chair of the
George W. campaign, organized the election system that somehow ended up
losing or spoiling the ballots of hundreds of thousands of
African-American voters, who just so coincidentally tend to vote
Democratic. During the recount period, it is documented that the
Governor’s office made 95 calls to the Bush campaign- calls which Jeb
somehow “cannot remember” the reason for. That answer is unacceptable
for allegations of such importance. Why can’t you remember, Jeb?

On 7/31/2015 7:44 AM, William wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.