On 8/4/2015 5:57 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.

On 8/4/2015 5:57 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.

On 8/3/2015 3:57 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 9:49 AM, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Never mind that I don't see any Americans calling them asses
>> or arses. I'm sure someone does, somewhere, probably learned
>> it in the Bible. I just heard someone say Look at the donkeys!
>> just last week at the county fair. I'm sure if someone yelled
>> Hey! I see Ass! it would have gotten some looks.

> You're right about this. I don't get many chances to see a donkey but if
> I did, it would never occur to me to call one an "ass."

Talk about something that doesn't come up in conversation
much at all. Donkeys.

> That's insulting
> to these animals! People, OTOH...

Heh, enough of that going around.

nancy

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/3/2015 4:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>
>>
>> It was this kind of nastiness that destroyed it but the main perpetrator
>> doesn't seem to manage so well here I have to say though, the
>> regulars here are much more robust and able to fight it. Most of our
>> lot took themselves off to Facebook. This lot gives it back ... with
>> interest
>>
>> Can you tell I've been learning?
>>
>>
>>
>
> The number of regulars is declining though. I just downloaded 345 posts
> from about 18 different non-troll posters. That is not a lot of people to
> sustain a really good newsgroup. USENET does not attract many new
> participants these days, but if you top by here and browse, chances are
> you'll just move on.
>
> I'd really like to see the games stop and get back to food posting and
> even a few OT postings of a good subject.

Yes It would be so good just to chat about cooking at the very least. I
read in some fractious and divisive groups but this is the worst
People here can be so cruel and seem to take such delight in it, obviously
thinking it is admired. Perhaps it is by some, but most times I am
disgusted. I remember many people who were wonderful posters here, with
great recipes and they have just got fed up and gone to Facebook too. Who
knows, perhaps I might be persuaded it is the lesser of two evils.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

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On 8/4/2015 6:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 6:21 AM, Bruce wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 6:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 6:02 AM, notbob wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 6:55 AM, notbob wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
wrote:
>>>
>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>> >Don't know about many but good ol Bryan has said mean things about the
>>> >daughter. I don't go there or agree with that.
>>>
>>> Yes, made him come over as a paedophile.
>>
>>No it didn't. Not at all. He's just talking about her weight.
>
> The post I am thinking of was not that one obviously - he had his
> usual ideas of what he was going to give/do to her, perfectly
> repulsive when you allowed for the fact he was talking about a teen.

He has made many disgusting remarks about her, really vile in fact, and of a
sexual nature.

Cheri

On 8/3/2015 3:00 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> >Don't know about many but good ol Bryan has said mean things about the
>>>> >daughter. I don't go there or agree with that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, made him come over as a paedophile.
>>>
>>> No it didn't. Not at all. He's just talking about her weight.
>>
>> The post I am thinking of was not that one obviously - he had his
>> usual ideas of what he was going to give/do to her, perfectly
>> repulsive when you allowed for the fact he was talking about a teen.
>
> He has made many disgusting remarks about her, really vile in fact, and
> of a sexual nature.
>
> Cheri

Grotesque!

On 2015-08-03 4:21 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>>> No actually, I don't. I have replied to a few messages quoted by others
>>>> but I am a microcosm of the traffic.
>>>
>>> True, but people like Dave Smith and Jebus don't claim to be Julie
>>> free. They're obsessed with her.
>>>
>>
>> Obsesses with her? Hardly. If I were obsessed with her I would not have
>> he in the bozo bin so that I should not have to read her bullshit.
>
> But you talk about her all the time.
>
> <more talk about Julie>
>


I talk to and about her less than you do.

On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-03 4:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>>> No actually, I don't. I have replied to a few messages quoted by
>>>>> others
>>>>> but I am a microcosm of the traffic.
>>>>
>>>> True, but people like Dave Smith and Jebus don't claim to be Julie
>>>> free. They're obsessed with her.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Obsesses with her? Hardly. If I were obsessed with her I would not have
>>> he in the bozo bin so that I should not have to read her bullshit.
>>
>> But you talk about her all the time.
>>
>> <more talk about Julie>
>>
>
>
> I talk to and about her less than you do.

You're a PIG and a disgusting areshole to women!

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/3/2015 4:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>
>>
>> It was this kind of nastiness that destroyed it but the main perpetrator
>> doesn't seem to manage so well here I have to say though, the
>> regulars here are much more robust and able to fight it. Most of our
>> lot took themselves off to Facebook. This lot gives it back ... with
>> interest
>>
>> Can you tell I've been learning?
>>
>>
>>
>
> The number of regulars is declining though. I just downloaded 345 posts
> from about 18 different non-troll posters. That is not a lot of people to
> sustain a really good newsgroup. USENET does not attract many new
> participants these days, but if you top by here and browse, chances are
> you'll just move on.
>
> I'd really like to see the games stop and get back to food posting and
> even a few OT postings of a good subject.


Me too.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2015-08-03 4:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>>> No actually, I don't. I have replied to a few messages quoted by
>>>>> others
>>>>> but I am a microcosm of the traffic.
>>>>
>>>> True, but people like Dave Smith and Jebus don't claim to be Julie
>>>> free. They're obsessed with her.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Obsesses with her? Hardly. If I were obsessed with her I would not have
>>> he in the bozo bin so that I should not have to read her bullshit.
>>
>> But you talk about her all the time.
>>
>> <more talk about Julie>
>>
>
>
> I talk to and about her less than you do.

But Bruce isn't mean!

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> >Don't know about many but good ol Bryan has said mean things about the
>>>> >daughter. I don't go there or agree with that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, made him come over as a paedophile.
>>>
>>>No it didn't. Not at all. He's just talking about her weight.
>>
>> The post I am thinking of was not that one obviously - he had his
>> usual ideas of what he was going to give/do to her, perfectly
>> repulsive when you allowed for the fact he was talking about a teen.
>
> He has made many disgusting remarks about her, really vile in fact, and of
> a sexual nature.

Yes.

On 8/3/2015 4:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 8/3/2015 4:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> It was this kind of nastiness that destroyed it but the main perpetrator
>>> doesn't seem to manage so well here I have to say though, the
>>> regulars here are much more robust and able to fight it. Most of our
>>> lot took themselves off to Facebook. This lot gives it back ... with
>>> interest
>>>
>>> Can you tell I've been learning?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The number of regulars is declining though. I just downloaded 345
>> posts from about 18 different non-troll posters. That is not a lot of
>> people to sustain a really good newsgroup. USENET does not attract
>> many new participants these days, but if you top by here and browse,
>> chances are you'll just move on.
>>
>> I'd really like to see the games stop and get back to food posting and
>> even a few OT postings of a good subject.
>
>
> Me too.

I can just bet, given you're the daily target here.

On 8/3/2015 4:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2015-08-03 4:21 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>>>>> No actually, I don't. I have replied to a few messages quoted by
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> but I am a microcosm of the traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> True, but people like Dave Smith and Jebus don't claim to be Julie
>>>>> free. They're obsessed with her.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Obsesses with her? Hardly. If I were obsessed with her I would not have
>>>> he in the bozo bin so that I should not have to read her bullshit.
>>>
>>> But you talk about her all the time.
>>>
>>> <more talk about Julie>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I talk to and about her less than you do.
>
> But Bruce isn't mean!

I'd have to agree, generally speaking.

On 8/3/2015 4:14 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:24:34 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>>>> >Don't know about many but good ol Bryan has said mean things about
>>>>> the
>>>>> >daughter. I don't go there or agree with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, made him come over as a paedophile.
>>>>
>>>> No it didn't. Not at all. He's just talking about her weight.
>>>
>>> The post I am thinking of was not that one obviously - he had his
>>> usual ideas of what he was going to give/do to her, perfectly
>>> repulsive when you allowed for the fact he was talking about a teen.
>>
>> He has made many disgusting remarks about her, really vile in fact,
>> and of a sexual nature.
>
> Yes.

Despicable!

On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:21:38 PM UTC-6, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 7:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
> Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
> "worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
> dealings--which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
> services, and water pumps--the candidate seemed to benefit from his
> father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
> criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
> early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
> says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
> with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
> fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
> at times with unsavory characters.

Nothing to do with food you nit-wit. Go to a political forum if you want
to pollute.
Geez, some people never learn.

On 8/3/2015 5:29 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:21:38 PM UTC-6, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 7:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
>> "worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
>> dealings--which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
>> services, and water pumps--the candidate seemed to benefit from his
>> father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
>> criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
>> early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
>> says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
>> with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
>> fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
>> at times with unsavory characters.
>
> Nothing to do with food you nit-wit. Go to a political forum if you want
> to pollute.
> Geez, some people never learn.
>

The Marty and Sqwerty trolls are unresponsive and unrepentant.


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dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 8/3/2015 7:22 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > Donkeys can swear? Holy shit!
> >
> > Grin, that one tried to at least!
> >
> >
> >
>
> Well ya learn something new every day. I'm just grateful my cat
> doesn't swear - you should see the nasty looks he gives me. Oh yeah,
> he'd stab me in the back if he could make it look like an accident.
>

Well, my cat (daisy-chan) is actually pretty nice most of the time. She
does look daggars at Iowna (my blind beagle) when Iowna grabs the
pluffier bed though. Right now they are sleeping together on the
larger memory foam one.

Carol

--

Cindy Hamilton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 1:36:54 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
>
> > One of the few spots where someone might use the term widdershins
> > and no one would look at you funny for it.
> >
> > If i recall (not googling just now), that's a reference to the
> > withers or hairy back of a horses legs. Grin, comes a cropper with
> > some other meanings though. Can be used for a land lubber version
> > of '4 sheets to the wind' (you have to be drunk to do that)
> >
> > 'He's windershins' (crazy)
> > Place just widdershins (..of here..) (means go back, you missed it)
> > Hither (meaning near by or near a marked spot) gains fither (a bit
> > past, not so near).
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > --
>
> Widdershins means "counterclockwise", or "anti-sunwise". In a
> superstitious society, only a crazy person would risk it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Interesting shift! Either way, not the same where I grew up.


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On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
> >>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
> >>>>
> >>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
> >>> And how many to a nippikin?
> >>
> >> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
> >>
> >> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
> >> lol
> >
> > Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
> > but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
> >
> > Google says:
> > The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
> > a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
> > English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
> > originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
> > than or equal to half a pint.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
> >
>
> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?

<shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
nothing to do with fish.

--

sf

On 8/3/2015 1:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 8/3/2015 7:22 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Donkeys can swear? Holy shit!
>>>
>>> Grin, that one tried to at least!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well ya learn something new every day. I'm just grateful my cat
>> doesn't swear - you should see the nasty looks he gives me. Oh yeah,
>> he'd stab me in the back if he could make it look like an accident.
>>
>
> Well, my cat (daisy-chan) is actually pretty nice most of the time. She
> does look daggars at Iowna (my blind beagle) when Iowna grabs the
> pluffier bed though. Right now they are sleeping together on the
> larger memory foam one.
>
> Carol
>

That's pretty damn sweet!

On 03/08/2015 6:13 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
>>>>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
>>>>> And how many to a nippikin?
>>>>
>>>> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
>>>>
>>>> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
>>>> lol
>>>
>>> Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
>>> but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
>>>
>>> Google says:
>>> The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
>>> a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
>>> English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
>>> originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
>>> than or equal to half a pint.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
>>>
>>
>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>
> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
> nothing to do with fish.
>
It was commonly in use in the UK into the 60s and possibly later until
metrication took hold. It's a quarter-pint.
Graham
--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On 8/3/2015 2:13 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
>>>>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
>>>>> And how many to a nippikin?
>>>>
>>>> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
>>>>
>>>> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
>>>> lol
>>>
>>> Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
>>> but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
>>>
>>> Google says:
>>> The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
>>> a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
>>> English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
>>> originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
>>> than or equal to half a pint.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
>>>
>>
>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>
> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
> nothing to do with fish.
>

I'm guessing that it's a measurement of the volume of beer that it took
to get the King at the time falling off his ass drunk at which point, he
would be stewed to the gill. A peck would be a 10th of a pecker, which
would be... never mind!

On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:43:28 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

> On 8/3/2015 2:13 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
> >>>>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
> >>>>> And how many to a nippikin?
> >>>>
> >>>> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
> >>>>
> >>>> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
> >>>> lol
> >>>
> >>> Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
> >>> but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
> >>>
> >>> Google says:
> >>> The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
> >>> a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
> >>> English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
> >>> originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
> >>> than or equal to half a pint.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
> >>>
> >>
> >> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
> >
> > <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
> > nothing to do with fish.
> >
>
> I'm guessing that it's a measurement of the volume of beer that it took
> to get the King at the time falling off his ass drunk at which point, he
> would be stewed to the gill.

I suppose another term "drink like a fish" evolved from that one.

> A peck would be a 10th of a pecker, which would be... never mind!

Actually a peck is dry measure. 4 US pecks = 1 US bushel

Have you ever heard this one?

She eats like a bird: a peck at a time.

It's a real knee slapper for farmers.


--

sf

On 8/3/2015 2:57 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:43:28 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/3/2015 2:13 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
>>>>>>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
>>>>>>> And how many to a nippikin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
>>>>> but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Google says:
>>>>> The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
>>>>> a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
>>>>> English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
>>>>> originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
>>>>> than or equal to half a pint.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>>>
>>> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
>>> nothing to do with fish.
>>>
>>
>> I'm guessing that it's a measurement of the volume of beer that it took
>> to get the King at the time falling off his ass drunk at which point, he
>> would be stewed to the gill.
>
> I suppose another term "drink like a fish" evolved from that one.
>
>> A peck would be a 10th of a pecker, which would be... never mind!
>
> Actually a peck is dry measure. 4 US pecks = 1 US bushel
>
> Have you ever heard this one?
>
> She eats like a bird: a peck at a time.
>
> It's a real knee slapper for farmers.
>
>

The joke ain't very funny but the fact that it kills farmers is damn funny!

Here's an old Henny Youngman line: I sleep like a baby at night - I wet
the bed and wake up crying. Hee hee.

On 8/3/2015 2:57 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?

142ml.

On 8/3/2015 8:41 PM, graham wrote:
> On 03/08/2015 6:13 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1

>>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>>
>> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
>> nothing to do with fish.
>>
> It was commonly in use in the UK into the 60s and possibly later until
> metrication took hold. It's a quarter-pint.
>
One quarter of an Imperial pint, 5 Imperial ounces (which are not quite
the same as US ounces).

On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 06:49:06 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 8/3/2015 8:41 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 03/08/2015 6:13 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
>
>>>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>>>
>>> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
>>> nothing to do with fish.
>>>
>> It was commonly in use in the UK into the 60s and possibly later until
>> metrication took hold. It's a quarter-pint.
>>
>One quarter of an Imperial pint, 5 Imperial ounces (which are not quite
>the same as US ounces).

The "gill" was used in the US too, every candy store in NYC used a
gill measure for hand dipped ice cream, probably still used by some
candy stores... what people ordered for one portion whan a pint was
too much.

On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:02:25 -1000, dsi1
> wrote:

>On 8/3/2015 2:57 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:43:28 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/3/2015 2:13 PM, sf wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 8:53 AM, sf wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 17:08:00 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "S Viemeister" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forsooth! It matters not! Get thyself hither to a good tavern and
>>>>>>>>> imbibe a good pannikin!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I should add that to my table of equivalents - how many ml to a pannikin?
>>>>>>>> And how many to a nippikin?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends how much you've had to drink when you start measuring ))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is meant to be a small cup though <g> A nippikin? You are on your own
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I know what "a nip" is! I always knew it meant a small amount,
>>>>>> but I didn't know it was an actual measurement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google says:
>>>>>> The nipperkin is a unit of measurement of volume, equal to one-half of
>>>>>> a quarter-gill, one-eighth of a gill, or one thirty-second of an
>>>>>> English pint. In other estimations, one nip (an abbreviation that
>>>>>> originated in 1796) is either one-third of a pint, or any amount less
>>>>>> than or equal to half a pint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NipperkinWikipedia
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>>>>
>>>> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
>>>> nothing to do with fish.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that it's a measurement of the volume of beer that it took
>>> to get the King at the time falling off his ass drunk at which point, he
>>> would be stewed to the gill.
>>
>> I suppose another term "drink like a fish" evolved from that one.
>>
>>> A peck would be a 10th of a pecker, which would be... never mind!
>>
>> Actually a peck is dry measure. 4 US pecks = 1 US bushel
>>
>> Have you ever heard this one?
>>
>> She eats like a bird: a peck at a time.
>>
>> It's a real knee slapper for farmers.
>>
>>
>
>The joke ain't very funny but the fact that it kills farmers is damn funny!

It's only funny to farmers because they know how birds eat, anyone
ever feed chickens would know that they eat non stop... no matter how
much birdseed I put out it's all gone in 15 minutes... most days I go
through 20 pounds of seed... the bluejays dive bomb on my window when
they run out.

On 04/08/2015 4:49 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 8:41 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 03/08/2015 6:13 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 08:57:01 -1000, dsi1
>
>>>> Now that we cleared that up - what the heck is a gill?
>>>
>>> <shrug> I only know it's an archaic unit of measure and it has
>>> nothing to do with fish.
>>>
>> It was commonly in use in the UK into the 60s and possibly later until
>> metrication took hold. It's a quarter-pint.
>>
> One quarter of an Imperial pint, 5 Imperial ounces (which are not quite
> the same as US ounces).
>
There's a US gill equivalent too. 4 USoz.
Graham

--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On 8/4/2015 9:29 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 12:21:38 PM UTC-6, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 7:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
>> "worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
>> dealings--which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
>> services, and water pumps--the candidate seemed to benefit from his
>> father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
>> criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
>> early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
>> says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
>> with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
>> fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
>> at times with unsavory characters.
>
> Nothing to do with food you nit-wit. Go to a political forum if you want
> to pollute.
> Geez, some people never learn.
>
ohn Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed source
within the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation
has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and shredding of
public records and documents in violation of Florida law. The department
maintains oversight and approval of state gaming licensees, slot
machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In addition, the state
government source revealed that Jeb Bush has replaced key members of the
Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with personnel from Texas who are
overseeing the destruction of state documents. An FBI source has
confirmed the destruction of public records by Jeb Bush may be in
response to the ongoing criminal proceedings against GOP lobbyist Jack
Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the 2001 gangland murder in
Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/4/2015 7:00 AM, Cheri wrote:
ohn Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed source
within the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation
has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and shredding of
public records and documents in violation of Florida law. The department
maintains oversight and approval of state gaming licensees, slot
machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In addition, the state
government source revealed that Jeb Bush has replaced key members of the
Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with personnel from Texas who are
overseeing the destruction of state documents. An FBI source has
confirmed the destruction of public records by Jeb Bush may be in
response to the ongoing criminal proceedings against GOP lobbyist Jack
Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the 2001 gangland murder in
Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/4/2015 10:53 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that RELATIVELY speaking, Islam makes more
sense. Of course, I don't really like either and have no respect for
them. but still, its amusing when Christians mock Islam. (btw, we are
leaving politics out of this. I know the Islamic world is screwed up but
I am talking about the central ideas of the religions, not the
sociopolitical aspect).

Christianity in general is just a strange and illogical concept. God's
only son sacrificed himself for our sins? lowut? God made us. He created
us with this sin. If we are all sinners, its because God himself made us
like that. The fact that he then has to send his son down here for us so
we can repent, believe in him and go to heaven is ridiculous.

Thats not a sacrifice. Thats a threat. Blackmail of sorts. It would be
like me kidnapping someone, putting them in a room with poisinous gas
and then sending my kid in there to resxue them. And when they come out,
I tell them my kid died to rescue them so worship him because I
sacrificed my son for them. EXCEPT I PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
wtffffffffffffffffff. The whole concept if flawed.

The only way to salvation is through Christ. Well cool except humans
have existed for thousands of years before that. Apart from being short
sighted, its a silly idea because if all humans are sinners, who died
for the ones before Christ. And if they are judged differently, then why
should any other human after Christ be judged on their belief in an
event not clearly documented about a person whose life is a mystery.
Makes no sense.

Oh and gays are bad. Cool story bros.

On 8/4/2015 7:00 AM, Cheri wrote:
alt.food.fast-food

On 8/4/2015 7:00 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

When Jeb's dad was vice-president, Jeb lobbied the federal government
for the owner of a Miami health-maintenance organization who was later
charged with $200 million in Medicare fraud and fled the US. I