The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.

Today's gathering:

http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg

When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
around them.. the past few days we had:

-tomato sandwiches with a thin slice of onion

-grilled cheese and tomato

-gazpacho

-cuke and tomato and onion salad with cottage cheese and sour cream

-sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
oil and balsamic vinegar

-chunked tomato sitting in juices with a bit of salt and pepper

Oh, and the corn is ready, too. The stuff is so wonderful and delicate
you could practically eat the cob.

On 7/30/2015 6:34 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
> to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
> the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>
> Today's gathering:
>
> http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg

Mine are still like green golf ball.

>
> When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
> around them.. the past few days we had:


> -sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
> oil and balsamic vinegar

Same here, but ours came from the farm stand. I was able to get some
imported Buffala mozzarella the other day. Great stuff!

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:21:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/30/2015 6:34 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>> to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>> the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>>
>> Today's gathering:
>>
>> http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg
>
>Mine are still like green golf ball.

Ours took off like rockets when the extreme heat came upon us.

>>
>> When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
>> around them.. the past few days we had:
>
>
>> -sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
>> oil and balsamic vinegar
>
>Same here, but ours came from the farm stand. I was able to get some
>imported Buffala mozzarella the other day. Great stuff!


Love it. Not everyone carries it, but when I see it fresh, I grab it.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>
>Today's gathering:
>
>http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg
>
>When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
>around them.. the past few days we had:
>
>-tomato sandwiches with a thin slice of onion
>
>-grilled cheese and tomato
>
>-gazpacho
>
>-cuke and tomato and onion salad with cottage cheese and sour cream
>
>-sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
>oil and balsamic vinegar
>
>-chunked tomato sitting in juices with a bit of salt and pepper
>
>Oh, and the corn is ready, too. The stuff is so wonderful and delicate
>you could practically eat the cob.

Superb! My tomatoes are still green, but they are getting there.

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>
>Today's gathering:
>
>http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg
>
>When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
>around them.. the past few days we had:
>
>-tomato sandwiches with a thin slice of onion
>
>-grilled cheese and tomato
>
>-gazpacho
>
>-cuke and tomato and onion salad with cottage cheese and sour cream
>
>-sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
>oil and balsamic vinegar
>
>-chunked tomato sitting in juices with a bit of salt and pepper
>
>Oh, and the corn is ready, too. The stuff is so wonderful and delicate
>you could practically eat the cob.
>
Gorgeous! My tomatoes are coming in slowly. The cucumbers are
driving me crazy.
I like to make this at least one time each summer.
SICILIAN SFINCIONE

The recipe is from "Best of Baking", an HP book, authors Annette
Wolter and
Christian Teubner. (1980)
Sicilian Sfincione:

Topping:
2 lb. (1 kg.) tomatoes
2 cloves garlic, crushed
2 small onions, chopped
1 teaspoon salt
Scant 1/4 cup (50 ml) olive oil

Pizza Dough:
pinch of sugar
1 1/4 cups (300 ml) warn milk (110F-43C degrees)
2 pkgs. active dry yeast
4 cups (500 g) all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 egg

Final Toppings:
3 oz. (75 g) pitted ripe olives, chopped
2 teaspoons dried oregano
4 oz (100 g ) crumbled caciocavallo or grated Parmesan cheese
Olive oil, if desired

To make topping: peel and chop tomatoes. Combine tomatoes, garlic,
onions,
salt and olive oil in a large bowl. Cover and set aside. Flavor will
improve while mixture stands.

To make pizza dough: Stir sugar into warm milk and sprinkle with
yeast.
Let stand 5 minutes or until the surface is frothy. Stir gently to
moisten
any dry particles remaining on top. Sift flour and salt into large
bowl.
Lightly beat egg into yeast mixture. Pour into flour mixture,
combining to
make a dough. On a floured surface, knead dough until smooth and
springy, 5
to 10 minutes. Cover and let rise in a warm place 25 minutes.

Brush baking sheets with oil. Preheat oven to 425 F (220C) degrees.
On a
floured surface, lightly knead risen dough; divide into 4 to 6 pieces.
Roll
out pieces into individual rounds; place on oiled baking sheets. Top
each
round with tomato mixture. Scatter olives and oregano over pizza.
Sprinkle
caciocavallo or Parmesan cheese over topping.

Bake 20 minutes or until edges are brown. Sprinkle with olive oil on
removal from oven, if desired.

Baking Sheet Sfincione

The yeast dough should be rolled out to the size of a large baking
sheet,
about 13 inches (33 cm) square. Pierce dough several times with a
fork to
avoid bubbling during baking. Prepare tomato topping as in the
previous
recipe and spread over dough. Sprinkle the surface with fresh,
coarsely
chopped peppermint leaves and a teaspoon of chopped basil, if
available.
Use twice the quantity of ripe olives and sprinkle with 1 1/2 cups
(175g)
shredded mozzarella cheese. Bake sfincione 20-25 minutes in a
preheated 425
F (220 C) degree oven.

Janet US

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>
>Today's gathering:
>
>http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg
>
>When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
>around them.. the past few days we had:
>
>-tomato sandwiches with a thin slice of onion
>
>-grilled cheese and tomato
>
>-gazpacho
>
>-cuke and tomato and onion salad with cottage cheese and sour cream
>
>-sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
>oil and balsamic vinegar
>
>-chunked tomato sitting in juices with a bit of salt and pepper
>
>Oh, and the corn is ready, too. The stuff is so wonderful and delicate
>you could practically eat the cob.
>
I love fermented cherry tomatoes, they are a little effervescent and
oh, so tasty.
http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...tomatoes-.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/q5bv8yc

koko

--

Food is our common ground, a universal experience
James Beard

On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 6:35:01 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
> The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
> to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
> the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.

I've got a few starting to blush. Regrettably, my San Marzano plant
is suffering from blossom-end rot, so I'm pretty gloomy about its
chances. It must be extra-sensitive to soil calcium; it's growing
right next to a German Johnson that isn't having any problems at all.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:59:42 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>>to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>>the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
Snip
>>
>Gorgeous! My tomatoes are coming in slowly. The cucumbers are
>driving me crazy.
> I like to make this at least one time each summer.
>SICILIAN SFINCIONE
>
>The recipe is from "Best of Baking", an HP book, authors Annette
>Wolter and
>Christian Teubner. (1980)
>Sicilian Sfincione:
>
>Topping:
>2 lb. (1 kg.) tomatoes
>2 cloves garlic, crushed
>2 small onions, chopped
>1 teaspoon salt
>Scant 1/4 cup (50 ml) olive oil
>
>Pizza Dough:
>pinch of sugar
>1 1/4 cups (300 ml) warn milk (110F-43C degrees)
>2 pkgs. active dry yeast
>4 cups (500 g) all-purpose flour
>1/2 teaspoon salt
>1 egg
>
>Final Toppings:
>3 oz. (75 g) pitted ripe olives, chopped
>2 teaspoons dried oregano
>4 oz (100 g ) crumbled caciocavallo or grated Parmesan cheese
>Olive oil, if desired
>
>To make topping: peel and chop tomatoes. Combine tomatoes, garlic,
>onions,
>salt and olive oil in a large bowl. Cover and set aside. Flavor will
>improve while mixture stands.
>
>To make pizza dough: Stir sugar into warm milk and sprinkle with
>yeast.
>Let stand 5 minutes or until the surface is frothy. Stir gently to
>moisten
>any dry particles remaining on top. Sift flour and salt into large
>bowl.
>Lightly beat egg into yeast mixture. Pour into flour mixture,
>combining to
>make a dough. On a floured surface, knead dough until smooth and
>springy, 5
>to 10 minutes. Cover and let rise in a warm place 25 minutes.
>
>Brush baking sheets with oil. Preheat oven to 425 F (220C) degrees.
>On a
>floured surface, lightly knead risen dough; divide into 4 to 6 pieces.
>Roll
>out pieces into individual rounds; place on oiled baking sheets. Top
>each
>round with tomato mixture. Scatter olives and oregano over pizza.
>Sprinkle
>caciocavallo or Parmesan cheese over topping.
>
>Bake 20 minutes or until edges are brown. Sprinkle with olive oil on
>removal from oven, if desired.
>
>Baking Sheet Sfincione
>
>The yeast dough should be rolled out to the size of a large baking
>sheet,
>about 13 inches (33 cm) square. Pierce dough several times with a
>fork to
>avoid bubbling during baking. Prepare tomato topping as in the
>previous
>recipe and spread over dough. Sprinkle the surface with fresh,
>coarsely
>chopped peppermint leaves and a teaspoon of chopped basil, if
>available.
>Use twice the quantity of ripe olives and sprinkle with 1 1/2 cups
>(175g)
>shredded mozzarella cheese. Bake sfincione 20-25 minutes in a
>preheated 425
>F (220 C) degree oven.
>
>Janet US


I have not snipped any of this recipe so others can see it. Looks
great!

Thanks. Can't wait to make it (once the heat breaks...we are hovering
around 90 these days).

My sadness is that I am going to get a 1lb block of fresh yeast given
to me and it is too hot to bake

On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:50:06 -0700, koko > wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:34:25 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>>to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>>the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>>
>>Today's gathering:
>>
>>http://i62.tinypic.com/jphkxz.jpg
>>
>>When these colorful babies are bountiful, we tailor all our meals
>>around them.. the past few days we had:
>>
>>-tomato sandwiches with a thin slice of onion
>>
>>-grilled cheese and tomato
>>
>>-gazpacho
>>
>>-cuke and tomato and onion salad with cottage cheese and sour cream
>>
>>-sliced tomato with fresh mozzarella and basil, drizzled with olive
>>oil and balsamic vinegar
>>
>>-chunked tomato sitting in juices with a bit of salt and pepper
>>
>>Oh, and the corn is ready, too. The stuff is so wonderful and delicate
>>you could practically eat the cob.
>>
>I love fermented cherry tomatoes, they are a little effervescent and
>oh, so tasty.
>http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...tomatoes-.html
>or
>http://tinyurl.com/q5bv8yc
>
>koko


I have all of those ingredients at hand, too. The cherry tomatoes are
about to come into their own and the herbs are coming in in
baskets-full.


YUM!

Thanks.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 6:35:01 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
>> to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
>> the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
>
>I've got a few starting to blush. Regrettably, my San Marzano plant
>is suffering from blossom-end rot, so I'm pretty gloomy about its
>chances. It must be extra-sensitive to soil calcium; it's growing
>right next to a German Johnson that isn't having any problems at all.
>
>Cindy Hamilton


I have been having a discussion about this in one of the gardening
groups and am beginning to think it is as much variety sensitivity as
the calcium.

Those large red-green stripey things in that photo are Pink Berkeley
Tie Dyes. They seem particularly sensitive to BER, while those plants
on either side just laugh and point at them. Oh, the Tie Dyes are
sensitive to wilt/blight, too.

I generally plant ~15 varieties, so if conditions are not right for
one or two, I still have some yield. If you are seeking interesting
varieties in tomato plants, try this woman in Lomita, CA. She is
remarkable and well known - so well so that she starts taking next
year's order this upcoming week.

http://heirloomtomatoplants.com/

If you want to grow them from seed:

https://www.tomatofest.com/heirloom_...eed_store.html

I order a lot of my seed this time of year. Great bargains and the
difference in germination rates is not noticeable.

On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 7:05:01 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 6:35:01 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> The garden is laden with tomatoes this season and they are beginning
> >> to come in like gangbusters. The timing could not be more perfect, as
> >> the harvest is coinciding with the dog days of summer.
> >
> >I've got a few starting to blush. Regrettably, my San Marzano plant
> >is suffering from blossom-end rot, so I'm pretty gloomy about its
> >chances. It must be extra-sensitive to soil calcium; it's growing
> >right next to a German Johnson that isn't having any problems at all.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I have been having a discussion about this in one of the gardening
> groups and am beginning to think it is as much variety sensitivity as
> the calcium.
>
> Those large red-green stripey things in that photo are Pink Berkeley
> Tie Dyes. They seem particularly sensitive to BER, while those plants
> on either side just laugh and point at them. Oh, the Tie Dyes are
> sensitive to wilt/blight, too.
>
> I generally plant ~15 varieties, so if conditions are not right for
> one or two, I still have some yield. If you are seeking interesting
> varieties in tomato plants, try this woman in Lomita, CA. She is
> remarkable and well known - so well so that she starts taking next
> year's order this upcoming week.
>
> http://heirloomtomatoplants.com/
>
> If you want to grow them from seed:
>
> https://www.tomatofest.com/heirloom_...eed_store.html
>
> I order a lot of my seed this time of year. Great bargains and the
> difference in germination rates is not noticeable.

Thanks.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:47:49 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

snip
>I have one eggplant - got it at the grocery store for free when they
>were giving things away at the end of the season. It has a way to go
>before it fruits, and I have no idea what I will get, either.

snip
Eggplant makes a very pretty deck plant. First the purple flowers and
then the eggplant. This year I planted the ichiban and some small
globe ones. I think I will do the small globe type in the future.
They're so pretty, hanging on the plant like grapes.
Janet US

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On 8/1/2015 3:54 AM, Janet B wrote:
There are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings
and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush
family but also many other politicians that are still in office and
still part of the Bush Jr. administration today. Jeb Bush, George Bush
Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and
Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars
(note that this is about one quarter of our national debt).

Between 1981 and 1989, when George Bush finally announced that there was
a Savings and Loan Crisis to the world, the Reagan/Bush administration
worked to cover up Savings and Loan problems by reducing the number and
depth of examinations required of S&Ls as well as attacking political
opponents who were sounding early alarms about the S&L industry.
Industry insiders were aware of significant S&L problems as early 1986
that they felt would require a bailout. This information was kept from
the media until after Bush had won the 1988 elections.

Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million loan from Broward Federal Savings
in Sunrise, Florida. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office
building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by
the regulators at $500,000, which Bush and his partners paid. The
taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars.

Neil Bush was the most widely targeted member of the Bush family by the
press in the S&L scandal. Neil became director of Silverado Savings and
Loan at the age of 30 in 1985. Three years later the institution was
belly up at a cost of $1.6 billion to tax payers to bail out.

The basic actions of Neil Bush in the S&L scandal are as follows:

Neil received a $100,000 "loan" from Ken Good, of Good International,
with no obligation to pay any of the money back.

Good was a large shareholder in JNB Explorations, Neil Bush's
oil-exploration company.

Neil failed to disclose this conflict-of-interest when loans were given
to Good from Silverado, because the money was to be used in joint
venture with his own JNB. This was in essence giving himself a loan
from Silverado through a third party.

Neil then helped Silverado S&L approve Good International for a $900,000
line of credit.

Good defaulted on a total $32 million in loans from Silverado.

During this time Neil Bush did not disclose that $3 million of the $32
million that Good was defaulting on was actually for investment in JNB,
his own company.

Good subsequently raised Bush's JNB salary from $75,000 to $125,000 and
granted him a $22,500 bonus.

Neil Bush maintained that he did not see how this constituted a conflict
of interest.

Neil approved $106 million in Silverado loans to another JNB investor,
Bill Walters.

Neil also never formally disclosed his relationship with Walters and
Walters also defaulted on his loans, all $106 million of them.

On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:54:38 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:47:49 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>snip
>>I have one eggplant - got it at the grocery store for free when they
>>were giving things away at the end of the season. It has a way to go
>>before it fruits, and I have no idea what I will get, either.
>
>snip
>Eggplant makes a very pretty deck plant. First the purple flowers and
>then the eggplant. This year I planted the ichiban and some small
>globe ones. I think I will do the small globe type in the future.
>They're so pretty, hanging on the plant like grapes.
>Janet US


I am hoping I get something as it only got planted 2 weeks ago. It was
in a 5 inch pot with the roots growing through the bottom, so I hope
it takes advantage of August and September to give me something.

I am betting it is the regular large, teardrop kind, as most chain
groceries stick to basics in veggie plant offerings.

I have never grown eggplant. This will be a surprise no matter what.

On 8/1/2015 5:46 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America
and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms
a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity,
Jesus, or any supreme being. (For those who think the date of the
Constitution contradicts the last sentence, see note 1 at the end.) The
U.S. government derives from people (not God), as it clearly states in
the preamble: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a
more perfect Union...." The omission of God in the Constitution did not
come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers
purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.

Although the Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of
Church & State," neither does it say "Freedom of religion." However, the
Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment. As to our freedoms, the
1st Amendment provides exclusionary wording:

Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
[bold caps, mine]

Thomas Jefferson made an interpretation of the 1st Amendment to his
January 1st, 1802 letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist
Association calling it a "wall of separation between church and State."
Madison had also written that "Strongly guarded. . . is the separation
between religion and government in the Constitution of the United
States." There existed little controversy about this interpretation from
our Founding Fathers.

If religionists better understood the concept of separation of Church &
State, they would realize that the wall of separation actually protects
their religion. Our secular government allows the free expression of
religion and non-religion. Today, religions flourish in America; we have
more churches than Seven-Elevens.

Although many secular and atheist groups today support and fight for the
wall of separation, this does not mean that they wish to lawfully
eliminate religion from society. On the contrary, you will find no
secular or atheist group attempting to ban Christianity, or any other
religion from American society. Keeping religion separate allows
atheists and religionists alike, to practice their belief systems,
regardless how ridiculous they may seem, without government intervention.

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On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT), MisterDiddyWahDiddy
> wrote:



>It's easy to add calcium. The cooling towers of AC units produce lots
>of it, and maintenance folks remove it with vinegar, leaving lots of
>calcium and magnesium rich chips to add as a top dressing.



Yeah, sure...

http://7online.com/health/4th-person...-bronx/897860/

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 00:43:01 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 19:18:47 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>

>>I look forward to any advice you have because I know what a talented
>>gardener you are.
>>
>You are very kind and flatter me. I know that you are enormously
>successful with your garden as well.

I stick stuff in the dirt and water it.


> I guess I would watch that eggplant for a bit to see if I needed to
>shelter the soil or pot from the hot sun -- just until the roots get
>comfy in their new location. Osmocote is what I use. It might be a
>bit shy on the nitrogen for my taste. It is easy to get scald here
>and a bit more leaf cover would be good. I think that next year when
>we rototill I will put some grass fertilizer in. We have been putting
>tons of compost in there but it hasn't been sufficient to goose up the
>nitrogen.

I have switched off between Osmocote and MiracleGro over the years,
likely due to whatever my Costco had in the spring. I have never soil
tested, but enrich with compost and some well rotted manure each year,
as well as tossing in my favorite of Epsom salts. I rotate the crops
as best as one can do with most everything in tubs, and have even been
careful about re-using tomato stakes, but find that the late blight
has its own ways of sneaking in.


>I have vandals! Yesterday morning I went to the back yard and someone
>had a game of raccoon football or something similar in the corn patch.
>Canes were knocked over at the ground and some were simply chewed off.
>This morning I went to pick tomatoes and I see this lovely big, red
>tomato. . .I pick it and discover that it is covered with tree rat
>teeth marks. I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!

Since I am the second house from the woods and the only one with an
extensive food garden, we used to make jokes about our place being a
truck stop for all the critters.

When you say tree rats, do you mean squirrels or chipmunks? We have
been have a lot of trouble with an exploding chipmunk population here.
I've no sympathy for them, as they as so destructive.

It is awful to see one's well-tended garden torn apart like that so
late in the season. What's the old joke about how one knows when the
corn is ripe, the answer being one day before the raccoons get it.

I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad. That is why I
had not done many large tomatoes recently, but stuck to a wide range
of cherries. Little nasties had gone after my strawberries, too. I
have an old fashioned strawberry jar that is quite productive, and I
check it daily. I know when I have been robbed.

Alas, Rose, as a gentle bichon, did little to deter the groundhogs
that caused most of my mayhem in those years. They could have eaten
her for breakfast. Redoing the decking back there seems to have gotten
rid of the groundhog hiding places and the chipmunks and raccoons have
moved into that ecological niche. Such is life and the food chain.

Boron

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:

> I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
> on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.

One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.

Cindy Hamilton

On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
> Janet US
>
I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
know from where the dogshit comes!
I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
lesson:-)
Graham

"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> > I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
> > on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
>
> One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
> bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
> said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.

Here's the solution to a woodchuck in the garden problem. (if they
burrow underneath a fence.)
Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg

This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.

On 02/08/2015 8:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
>>> on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
>>
>> One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
>> bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
>> said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
> Here's the solution to a woodchuck in the garden problem. (if they
> burrow underneath a fence.)
> Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
> yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
> http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg
>
> This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.
>
Pity a certain dentist didn't feel the same way!!!!!!
Graham
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which is kind of the same thing".

graham wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
> > yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
> > http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg
> >
> > This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.
> >
> Pity a certain dentist didn't feel the same way!!!!!!

What? Please explain that response to me if you don't mind.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>> Janet US
>>
> I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
> window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I know
> from where the dogshit comes!
> I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
> lesson:-)

That sounds like a good idea

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On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 9:59:49 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >
> > > I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
> > > on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
> >
> > One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
> > bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
> > said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
> Here's the solution to a woodchuck in the garden problem. (if they
> burrow underneath a fence.)
> Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
> yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
> http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg
>
> This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.

I don't think that would work here; we're a little too urbanized.
There's a trailer park (quite a nice one) behind our property; I think
they wouldn't like lead coming through their walls if he skipped
one off the ground.

My husband is sudden death with a BB gun on squirrels, though.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:20:20 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 00:43:01 -0600, Janet B >
>wrote:

snip
>When you say tree rats, do you mean squirrels or chipmunks? We have
>been have a lot of trouble with an exploding chipmunk population here.
>I've no sympathy for them, as they as so destructive.
>
snip
>Boron

there was another raid last night. It is young raccoons getting into
the tomatoes. They are indiscriminate. Last night was large green
tomatoes half eaten. Everything is fenced and caged. I wish they
would go after the cucumbers -- it's amazing what four plants can put
out.. Sorry to hear that you are the neighborhood diner. I have to
go out this morning and cut my rose buds so that I get to see them in
bloom. The deer are fond of the buds.
Janet US

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 05:51:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
>> on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
>
>One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
>bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
>said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I've had squirrels do that to my winter squash. They have no manners
at all!
Janet US

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>> Janet US
>>
>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>know from where the dogshit comes!
>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
>lesson:-)
>Graham
>
>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>which is kind of the same thing".

go for it!
Janet US

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...

>> BER?
>
> Blossom-end rot. Way, way upthread it was used in a more
> understandable context. I will schedule myself for some time
> in the flogging machine for taking that shortcut.

lol I think you ought to be reprieved because, obviously, I missed those
posts so I am not blameless)


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"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
>>lesson:-)
>>Graham
>>
>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>which is kind of the same thing".
>
> go for it!

Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
>>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
>>>lesson:-)
>>>Graham
>>>
>>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>>which is kind of the same thing".
>>
>> go for it!
>
> Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??

Or several tomato beers. LOL

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
>>>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
>>>>lesson:-)
>>>>Graham
>>>>
>>>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>>>which is kind of the same thing".
>>>
>>> go for it!
>>
>> Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??
>
> Or several tomato beers. LOL

Hey whatever floats your boat ... Chin Chin ... bottoms up <g>

ps what is 'tomato beer' ?


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On 8/2/2015 6:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
>> on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
>
> One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
> bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
> said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
..25 magnum - end.

On 8/2/2015 8:00 AM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:20:57 AM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> I had to chuck 8-10 really big tomatoes yesterday because of a chomp
>>> on the bottom or the side facing away. Drives me mad.
>>
>> One year I had a woodchuck that would come around and bite a
>> bunch of green tomatoes. I was as if he bit the first one,
>> said "Yuck, I'll try another one." Lather, rinse, repeat.
>
> Here's the solution to a woodchuck in the garden problem. (if they
> burrow underneath a fence.)
> Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
> yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
> http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg
>
> This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.
>

Gee, and you look so happy, fulfilled, positive!

On 8/2/2015 8:37 AM, Gary wrote:
> graham wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Picture of me, 1979 with a 30-30. It was a one-shot kill from about 80
>>> yards. It was destroying my inlaws garden.
>>> http://i62.tinypic.com/32zj0ud.jpg
>>>
>>> This was my last ever kill. To sad for me ever since.
>>>
>> Pity a certain dentist didn't feel the same way!!!!!!
>
> What? Please explain that response to me if you don't mind.
>
Well...

http://www.specialistrecords.com/gar...p_greatesthits

I kinda miss hearing you do "Woman. Woman"...

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>>>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the bedroom
>>>>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>>>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>>>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her a
>>>>>lesson:-)
>>>>>Graham
>>>>>
>>>>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>>>>which is kind of the same thing".
>>>>
>>>> go for it!
>>>
>>> Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??
>>
>> Or several tomato beers. LOL
>
> Hey whatever floats your boat ... Chin Chin ... bottoms up <g>
>
> ps what is 'tomato beer' ?

It's beer with tomato juice added, like Snap-E-Tom, V-8 etc., often called
Red Dogs.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
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>>>>
>>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>>>>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the
>>>>>>bedroom
>>>>>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>>>>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>>>>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>lesson:-)
>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>>>>>which is kind of the same thing".
>>>>>
>>>>> go for it!
>>>>
>>>> Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??
>>>
>>> Or several tomato beers. LOL
>>
>> Hey whatever floats your boat ... Chin Chin ... bottoms up <g>
>>
>> ps what is 'tomato beer' ?
>
> It's beer with tomato juice added, like Snap-E-Tom, V-8 etc., often called
> Red Dogs.
>
> Cheri

And often ordered by people with hangovers in bars after they've had lime
and bitters. :-)

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 02/08/2015 12:43 AM, Janet B wrote:
>>>>>> I'm telling you, the lack of a dog has let all the
>>>>>>> neighborhood critters think my garden is a rumpus room!
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I heard something last night at midnight and on looking out the
>>>>>>bedroom
>>>>>>window spotted a neighbour walking her dog across my back lawn. Now I
>>>>>>know from where the dogshit comes!
>>>>>>I intend getting one of those motion detector sprinklers to teach her
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>lesson:-)
>>>>>>Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
>>>>>>which is kind of the same thing".
>>>>>
>>>>> go for it!
>>>>
>>>> Amen!!! btw would G&T be permitted??
>>>
>>> Or several tomato beers. LOL
>>
>> Hey whatever floats your boat ... Chin Chin ... bottoms up <g>
>>
>> ps what is 'tomato beer' ?
>
> It's beer with tomato juice added, like Snap-E-Tom, V-8 etc., often called
> Red Dogs.

Gosh! I have never heard of that till I saw it here. Do you like it?



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