"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!
>
> For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
> did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
> temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.
>
>> Yay! Now
>> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for
>> black.
>> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof.
>> The
>> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
>> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it
>> is
>> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think
>> that
>> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh. Not
>> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.
>
> It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
> trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
> doors only...not trim around the house though.
>
> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
> choad.
> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.

How do you keep the house out of the full sun? And I don't really like your
insulting my neighbor. He's very nice. My next door neighbor has black
trim. But his house is gray. I guess it looks okay but those are not
colors I would pick.

On 8/7/2015 8:49 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!
>>
>> For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
>> did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
>> temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.
>>
>>> Yay! Now
>>> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for
>>> black.
>>> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof.
>>> The
>>> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
>>> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it
>>> is
>>> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think
>>> that
>>> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh.
>>> Not
>>> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.
>>
>> It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
>> trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
>> doors only...not trim around the house though.
>>
>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>> choad.
>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>
> How do you keep the house out of the full sun? And I don't really like
> your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice. My next door neighbor has
> black trim. But his house is gray. I guess it looks okay but those are
> not colors I would pick.

I like gray with black trim.

Cheri

On 8/7/2015 9:38 AM, Cheri wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 10:07 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 9:38 AM, Cheri wrote:
> George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
> Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
> and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
> The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
> children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
> to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
> Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
> the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.
>
> To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
> witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
> case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
> document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
> December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
> cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
> Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 9:38 AM, Cheri wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!
>>>
>>> For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
>>> did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
>>> temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.
>>>
>>>> Yay! Now
>>>> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for
>>>> black.
>>>> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof.
>>>> The
>>>> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
>>>> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it
>>>> is
>>>> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think
>>>> that
>>>> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh.
>>>> Not
>>>> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.
>>>
>>> It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
>>> trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
>>> doors only...not trim around the house though.
>>>
>>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>>> choad.
>>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>>
>> How do you keep the house out of the full sun? And I don't really like
>> your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice. My next door neighbor has
>> black trim. But his house is gray. I guess it looks okay but those are
>> not colors I would pick.
>
> I like gray with black trim.

Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
bright but... It's not just up to me.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" wrote:
> > I like gray with black trim.
>
> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
> bright but... It's not just up to me.

Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
decorationing decisions in the household.

I am a decorator too, Julie. Yes, black with grey is a good
combination but NOT on the exterior of a house. Grey siding with
black trim all around and windows and doors and frames looks very
Gothic and not so appealing. Black on just shutters and doors only
looks ok and is common.

I wish you luck and hope you like the outcome. Send a pic if you
would. I'll be nice the review regardless. heheheh

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> "Gary" wrote:
> >>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
> >>> choad.
> >>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
> >>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
> >>
> >> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?

LOL! Now I know you are just trolling. Certainly that wasn't a serious
question.


> >> And I don't really like your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice.

My insulting your neighbor has no relevance since I don't even know
him. It's what you tell about him made me say that. He's either old
and retired or he's a lazy bum not to have started your house long
ago.

Your house will still be in the full sun this week. OH MAN! ;-o

On 8/7/2015 11:38 PM, Gary wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 11:45 PM, Gary wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:37:28 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Cheri" wrote:
> > > I like gray with black trim.
> >
> > Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
> > bright but... It's not just up to me.
>
> Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
> YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
> decorationing decisions in the household.

Until he comes home and discovers his wife has had the house
painted purple.

I think a Second Empire house with a mansard roof could look quite
good painted grey with black trim (and perhaps some sort of red
accent color, used with extreme moderation). It would need to
be a fairly light shade of grey, IMO.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/6/2015 11:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!
>>>>
>>>> For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
>>>> did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
>>>> temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.
>>>>
>>>>> Yay! Now
>>>>> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for
>>>>> black.
>>>>> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown
>>>>> roof. The
>>>>> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't
>>>>> remember
>>>>> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral
>>>>> than it is
>>>>> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't
>>>>> think that
>>>>> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is
>>>>> bleh. Not
>>>>> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.
>>>>
>>>> It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
>>>> trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
>>>> doors only...not trim around the house though.
>>>>
>>>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>>>> choad.
>>>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>>>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>>>
>>> How do you keep the house out of the full sun? And I don't really
>>> like your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice. My next door
>>> neighbor has black trim. But his house is gray. I guess it looks
>>> okay but those are not colors I would pick.
>>
>> I like gray with black trim.
>
> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
> bright but... It's not just up to me.


Ina dreary climate bright is precisely the way to go!

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Gary" wrote:
>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>> choad.
>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>>
> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?

Paint at night? Pretty simple to paint the side that's in shadow, the
side that's not receiving direct sun. The north side of my house is
always in shade, the east and west sides are each in shadow half the
day... only the south side receives full sun all day, except on cloudy
days so wait for a cloudy day to paint the south side. I've seen
house painters erect a tarp to shade the section they're painting. A
lot of construction workers use a tarp to shade the area they're
working. At my last house when laying in pavers for my patio it was a
very hot day, they shaded the work area with their big truck, and was
easy to move the shade as the work progressed. When mowing I use two
different tractors, I park the one I'm not using in the shade cast by
the barn, then later it's not roasting hot. Unless there's a good
breeze it's hotter inside the barn than outside in the shade.

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 6:40:25 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:37:28 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > "Cheri" wrote:
> > > > I like gray with black trim.
> > >
> > > Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
> > > bright but... It's not just up to me.
> >
> > Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
> > YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
> > decorationing decisions in the household.
>
> Until he comes home and discovers his wife has had the house
> painted purple.

The lady across the street from my dad has a purple house. It's quite shocking! Luckily, her husband won't mind much because he's dead. My dad thinks the lady is going coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs because she keeps hearing screaming from the neighbor's houses and has called the authorities several times. We believe her to be paranoid. Maybe her purple house is giving her bad vibes.

>
> I think a Second Empire house with a mansard roof could look quite
> good painted grey with black trim (and perhaps some sort of red
> accent color, used with extreme moderation). It would need to
> be a fairly light shade of grey, IMO.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote:
>> > I like gray with black trim.
>>
>> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
>> bright but... It's not just up to me.
>
> Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
> YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
> decorationing decisions in the household.

I know it's not up to the painter and even if my husband wanted that, I
wouldn't alllow it.
>
> I am a decorator too, Julie. Yes, black with grey is a good
> combination but NOT on the exterior of a house. Grey siding with
> black trim all around and windows and doors and frames looks very
> Gothic and not so appealing. Black on just shutters and doors only
> looks ok and is common.
>
> I wish you luck and hope you like the outcome. Send a pic if you
> would. I'll be nice the review regardless. heheheh

The house is not being painted gray. That's my neighbor's house.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>> >>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>> >>> choad.
>> >>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>> >>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>> >>
>> >> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?
>
> LOL! Now I know you are just trolling. Certainly that wasn't a serious
> question.

My friend who lives in AZ said that they paint the houses there at night.
They bring in big lights so they can see.
>
>
>> >> And I don't really like your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice.
>
> My insulting your neighbor has no relevance since I don't even know
> him. It's what you tell about him made me say that. He's either old
> and retired or he's a lazy bum not to have started your house long
> ago.

He's neither. He owns a company that does windows, roofing, painting and
some other things. I did look it up and it is best not to paint when the
temp. is over 85. Maybe that's what you do, but...
>
> Your house will still be in the full sun this week. OH MAN! ;-o

On 8/7/2015 5:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>> >>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>>> >>> choad.
>>> >>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>>> >>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>>> >>
>>> >> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?
>>
>> LOL! Now I know you are just trolling. Certainly that wasn't a serious
>> question.
>
> My friend who lives in AZ said that they paint the houses there at
> night. They bring in big lights so they can see.
>>
>>
>>> >> And I don't really like your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice.
>>
>> My insulting your neighbor has no relevance since I don't even know
>> him. It's what you tell about him made me say that. He's either old
>> and retired or he's a lazy bum not to have started your house long
>> ago.
>
> He's neither. He owns a company that does windows, roofing, painting
> and some other things. I did look it up and it is best not to paint
> when the temp. is over 85. Maybe that's what you do, but...
>>
>> Your house will still be in the full sun this week. OH MAN! ;-o
>
Gary knows more about painting houses than you ever dreamed of. BTW, we
don't really care what shade you aren't "allowed" to paint the trim.
Personally I wouldn't let anyone tell me what I could or couldn't do.
Certainly not someone I was paying to paint the house.

Jill

On 8/7/2015 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/8/2015 3:24 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/8/2015 2:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>> > I like gray with black trim.
>>>
>>> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
>>> bright but... It's not just up to me.
>>
>> Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
>> YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
>> decorationing decisions in the household.
>
> I know it's not up to the painter and even if my husband wanted that, I
> wouldn't alllow it.
>>
>> I am a decorator too, Julie. Yes, black with grey is a good
>> combination but NOT on the exterior of a house. Grey siding with
>> black trim all around and windows and doors and frames looks very
>> Gothic and not so appealing. Black on just shutters and doors only
>> looks ok and is common.
>>
>> I wish you luck and hope you like the outcome. Send a pic if you
>> would. I'll be nice the review regardless. heheheh
>
> The house is not being painted gray. That's my neighbor's house.

Actually, it's individual preference. There are plenty of grey houses, with
black trim, roofs, and gutters around here that look very nice to me.

Cheri

On 8/7/2015 7:26 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>> > I like gray with black trim.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
>>>> bright but... It's not just up to me.
>>>
>>> Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
>>> YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
>>> decorationing decisions in the household.
>>
>> I know it's not up to the painter and even if my husband wanted that,
>> I wouldn't alllow it.
>>>
>>> I am a decorator too, Julie. Yes, black with grey is a good
>>> combination but NOT on the exterior of a house. Grey siding with
>>> black trim all around and windows and doors and frames looks very
>>> Gothic and not so appealing. Black on just shutters and doors only
>>> looks ok and is common.
>>>
>>> I wish you luck and hope you like the outcome. Send a pic if you
>>> would. I'll be nice the review regardless. heheheh
>>
>> The house is not being painted gray. That's my neighbor's house.
>
> Actually, it's individual preference. There are plenty of grey houses,
> with black trim, roofs, and gutters around here that look very nice to me.
>
> Cheri
>
>

I think you're in a brighter climate there.

So it can work.

On 8/8/2015 12:31 PM, TRS wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente - A FRAUD!
Get the **** out of here, you FAT FRAUD biotch troll!




Get out - stalker!


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On 8/8/2015 11:26 AM, Cheri wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/8/2015 11:26 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Cheri" wrote:
>>>> > I like gray with black trim.
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I prefer colors. If it were up to me, I would go for something
>>>> bright but... It's not just up to me.
>>>
>>> Well, it's NOT up to your painter. If you husband wants that then
>>> YMMV. A smart working husband will let his stay at home wife make all
>>> decorationing decisions in the household.
>>
>> I know it's not up to the painter and even if my husband wanted that, I
>> wouldn't alllow it.
>>>
>>> I am a decorator too, Julie. Yes, black with grey is a good
>>> combination but NOT on the exterior of a house. Grey siding with
>>> black trim all around and windows and doors and frames looks very
>>> Gothic and not so appealing. Black on just shutters and doors only
>>> looks ok and is common.
>>>
>>> I wish you luck and hope you like the outcome. Send a pic if you
>>> would. I'll be nice the review regardless. heheheh
>>
>> The house is not being painted gray. That's my neighbor's house.
>
> Actually, it's individual preference. There are plenty of grey houses,
> with black trim, roofs, and gutters around here that look very nice to me.

I suspect that the style of the houses where Gary lives are not the same as
those here. And now I am curious. Neighbors with the recently painted gray
house with black trim have a big dumpster out front. Guy was on the roof,
power washing. Makes me wonder what they are doing. New roof? New paint?
Previous owner did put a new roof of the attached garden shed but I don't
think he did the rest. I hope they are not repainting. If they are, I'll
have to check the color with them. I hate to copycat.

On 8/8/2015 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
The true story never has been told that children from orphanages all
across America during the 1980s came to Washington DC, paid by the US
Taxpayers, to unknowingly participate in the Congressional Blackmail
Child Sex Ring. Daddy Bush, Dick Cheney, John Sununu, according to
sources, would be standing in line to greet the children and their
caretakers as they came to the Vice President’s Home and or the White
House for their specially invited tour at US Government expense. Bush,
Cheney and Sununu would ask, “what’s your name”, and later just before
dinner time, a call from the White House came into the hotel where the
children were staying to the Caretakers inviting Little Billy, Mary,
Johnny, Timmy, and Pam to the White House State dinner that evening.

The caretakers thought it would be good for the children, since the
White House could not accommodate the entire orphanage. Gunderson and
Pender, who ran the operation, dispatched the limo at Bush’s request,
and the female would take the children to the limo and immediately give
them a Coke or Pepsi with the VOODOO DRUG in it, and they were off to
U.S. Senator Barney Frank’s pad, known as a “Brownstone”.

On 8/8/2015 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
It has even been alluded that GHWB denied presidents, during and after
his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such the the U.S. UFO
files due to the fact they did not possess the proper security
clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due to his own
experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA. To this
day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made sure he
had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the directorship. Then
again he made sure he had damaging information on many key individuals,
all else failing he “ordered their neutralization,” former CIA Director
William Colby, being a notable example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/7/2015 5:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> "Gary" wrote:
>>>> >>> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
>>>> >>> choad.
>>>> >>> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
>>>> >>> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?
>>>
>>> LOL! Now I know you are just trolling. Certainly that wasn't a serious
>>> question.
>>
>> My friend who lives in AZ said that they paint the houses there at
>> night. They bring in big lights so they can see.
>>>
>>>
>>>> >> And I don't really like your insulting my neighbor. He's very nice.
>>>
>>> My insulting your neighbor has no relevance since I don't even know
>>> him. It's what you tell about him made me say that. He's either old
>>> and retired or he's a lazy bum not to have started your house long
>>> ago.
>>
>> He's neither. He owns a company that does windows, roofing, painting
>> and some other things. I did look it up and it is best not to paint
>> when the temp. is over 85. Maybe that's what you do, but...
>>>
>>> Your house will still be in the full sun this week. OH MAN! ;-o
>>
> Gary knows more about painting houses than you ever dreamed of. BTW, we
> don't really care what shade you aren't "allowed" to paint the trim.
> Personally I wouldn't let anyone tell me what I could or couldn't do.
> Certainly not someone I was paying to paint the house.

What? That's not what I said at all. I said if my husband chose black, *I*
would not allow it. Thankfully he doesn't care what color I choose. I will
not choose the color I would really want which would be plum or purple
because it just wouldn't look right on this type of a house. Looks fine on
a Victorian, IMO.

Gary may know about painting houses in his area. I doubt that he knows
anything about our houses here. Don't forget, I used to sell paint and I
was in charge of that dept. for many years. I do know that paint has
changed since I sold paint, but I know how to look stuff up online and I can
read what it says on the cans. Exterior paint is best applied when the
temp. is not below 50 or above 85. We had many days that were over 90, all
in a row, despite what Gary said. We broke a record. And our deck is a
prime example of why you do not paint when the temp is around 90. Husband
painted it on a very hot day, 3 or perhaps it was 4 years ago. Paint is
almost all chipped off now. It started blistering and chipping almost
immediately.

We moved into this house almost 11 years ago. The paint was fine up until
we had the garage door opener repairs done and then it began to chip a tiny
bit on the trim around it. This hot weather made other parts of the house
begin to chip a little bit too. I have no clue when they painted prior to
us buying it. But as a general rule, paint that has been applied properly
will last at least 10 years in this area. I know that is not the case in
some other areas. We had to have our house in Wichita painted every 3
years.

I had one of my husband's relatives beg us to get vinyl siding so we
wouldn't have to paint. She didn't believe me when I told her how long
paint lasts here. Then I looked up the vinyl siding because it is so
uncommon here but common in other places. The reason it is so uncommon
here? Granted, our current weather is an extreme exception. But normally
it is cool and somewhat damp here. Not necessarily raining but overcast.
Water seeps under the siding and into the wood beneath where it becomes
trapped, never dries out and turns moldy at best or totally rots the wood at
worst.

There is no one size fits all when it comes to paint or siding. I am going
with gloss paint too. Flat seems to be the current norm but that's a bad
idea here too. One side of our house tends to get mildew. With gloss, you
can wash it off. I also think it looks better. The house on the other side
of me looks like total crap because he used waaaay too many different shades
of brown, a blah looking almost harvest gold color and all flat paint.
Painter tried to talk him out of it. Said it wouldn't look good. And after
the gold was applied, he agreed. It didn't look good. But he felt it would
look different with the trim paint on. Other neighbor told me, "It does
look different. It looks worse!" I had to laugh. I don't know why they
didn't stick with the colors that were on it which was a brownish red and a
grayish green. They did look good.

On 8/8/2015 4:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse..

On 8/8/2015 4:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
The true story of the Bush pedophile ring never has been told that
children from orphanages all across America during the 1980s came to
Washington DC, paid by the US Taxpayers, to unknowingly participate in
the Congressional Blackmail Child Sex Ring. Daddy Bush, Dick Cheney,
John Sununu, according to sources, would be standing in line to greet
the children and their caretakers as they came to the Vice President’s
Home and or the White House for their specially invited tour at US
Government expense. Bush, Cheney and Sununu would ask, “what’s your
name”, and later just before dinner time, a call from the White House
came into the hotel where the children were staying to the Caretakers
inviting Little Billy, Mary, Johnny, Timmy, and Pam to the White House
State dinner that evening.

The caretakers thought it would be good for the children, since the
White House could not accommodate the entire orphanage. Gunderson and
Pender, who ran the operation, dispatched the limo at Bush’s request,
and the female would take the children to the limo and immediately give
them a Coke or Pepsi with the VOODOO DRUG in it, and they were off to
U.S. Senator Barney Frank’s pad, known as a “Brownstone”.

On 8/8/2015 4:59 PM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
> On 8/8/2015 4:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
> during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
> the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
> security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
> to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
> To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
> sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
> directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
> many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
> neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
> example. The official finding was suicide.
>
> He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
> (doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
> Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
> national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
> time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.
>
> He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
> among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
> and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
> authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
> as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
> him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
> the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
> practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
> as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
> budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse..
>

The true story of the Bush pedophile ring never has been told that
children from orphanages all across America during the 1980s came to
Washington DC, paid by the US Taxpayers, to unknowingly participate in
the Congressional Blackmail Child Sex Ring. Daddy Bush, Dick Cheney,
John Sununu, according to sources, would be standing in line to greet
the children and their caretakers as they came to the Vice President’s
Home and or the White House for their specially invited tour at US
Government expense. Bush, Cheney and Sununu would ask, “what’s your
name”, and later just before dinner time, a call from the White House
came into the hotel where the children were staying to the Caretakers
inviting Little Billy, Mary, Johnny, Timmy, and Pam to the White House
State dinner that evening.

The caretakers thought it would be good for the children, since the
White House could not accommodate the entire orphanage. Gunderson and
Pender, who ran the operation, dispatched the limo at Bush’s request,
and the female would take the children to the limo and immediately give
them a Coke or Pepsi with the VOODOO DRUG in it, and they were off to
U.S. Senator Barney Frank’s pad, known as a “Brownstone”.

In article >, says...
> > I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
> > paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>
> How do you keep the house out of the full sun?
>

Work on the side that's in the shade, of course.




Janet UK.

On 8/8/2015 8:04 PM, Janet wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> ...He owns a company that does windows, roofing, painting and
> some other things.

So he's a jack of all trades and master of none?


>I did look it up and it is best not to paint when the
> temp. is over 85. Maybe that's what you do, but...

Nonsense. Over 85 is fine but not in the full sun.
Look up all you want on paint labels or the internet. Even ask the
clerks at a paint store. They are famous for giving out bad advice to
homeowners.

If you want the truth, you ask someone who has been painting for a
living for 40 years and knows all about what products hold up and the
conditions that they can be applied.

You worked in the paint dept of K-Mart and you are an expert?

;-d

Cheri wrote:
>
> There are plenty of grey houses, with black trim, roofs,
> and gutters around here that look very nice to me.

LMAO. You seem to have taken over Ophy's job of defending
Julie. Keep in mind, I'm not a big threat to her. I like her
but I will call her on some things.

Question for you Cheri... When you feel compelled to defend Julie from
me, do you run into a phone booth and change into a super hero costume
first?

:-D

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I suspect that the style of the houses where Gary lives are not the same as
> those here. And now I am curious. Neighbors with the recently painted gray
> house with black trim have a big dumpster out front. Guy was on the roof,
> power washing. Makes me wonder what they are doing. New roof? New paint?

So was the power washing yesterday on your house or the next door
house? You made it sound like it was your house in preparation for
painting.

On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 08:14:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:

> Cheri wrote:
> >
> > There are plenty of grey houses, with black trim, roofs,
> > and gutters around here that look very nice to me.
>
> LMAO. You seem to have taken over Ophy's job of defending
> Julie. Keep in mind, I'm not a big threat to her. I like her
> but I will call her on some things.
>
> Question for you Cheri... When you feel compelled to defend Julie from
> me, do you run into a phone booth and change into a super hero costume
> first?
>
Are you questioning Cheri's color sense, her taste in color
combinations, what? She says it looks nice to her. Who are you to
question that? I particularly like black trim against red brick.
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sf wrote:
>
> Are you questioning Cheri's color sense, her taste in color
> combinations, what? She says it looks nice to her. Who are you to
> question that? I particularly like black trim against red brick.

I question no ones taste of colors. Each to their own. One window unit
looks fine against the brick. Show the entire house with black trim to
fail. I'll bet you don't have black trim on yours.

G.