I just made some really good bean soup but I am eating it warm and not hot
because it is still stinking hot in here. Temp. is supposed to drop about
10 degrees tomorrow but that is still about 10 degrees hotter than normal.

I had some tomatoes that I needed to use up. Bought to eat them raw but
just haven't felt like eating much of anything. Even having trouble eating
this soup despite it being so good! I didn't really measure anything but I
put in about 5 medium sized tomatoes, chopped, seeds, juice and all, three
cans of beans (dark red kidney, white, small red), 1 large white onion,
chopped, couple of handful of carrot chips, broken into smaller pieces
(these are just raw carrots cut on an angle and with ripples), 2 ribs of
celery, diced, 1 green bell pepper, chopped and some dried bell pepper in
assorted colors. Also two small boxes of vegetable broth and a small can of
tomato sauce. Seasonings were just black pepper, parsley and cumin. Didn't
have to add any bacon or other fat or any lemon or lime juice. Just
perfect!

On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I just made some really good bean soup but I am eating it warm and not hot
> because it is still stinking hot in here. Temp. is supposed to drop about
> 10 degrees tomorrow but that is still about 10 degrees hotter than normal.
>
> I had some tomatoes that I needed to use up. Bought to eat them raw but
> just haven't felt like eating much of anything. Even having trouble eating
> this soup despite it being so good! I didn't really measure anything but I
> put in about 5 medium sized tomatoes, chopped, seeds, juice and all, three
> cans of beans (dark red kidney, white, small red), 1 large white onion,
> chopped, couple of handful of carrot chips, broken into smaller pieces
> (these are just raw carrots cut on an angle and with ripples), 2 ribs of
> celery, diced, 1 green bell pepper, chopped and some dried bell pepper in
> assorted colors. Also two small boxes of vegetable broth and a small can of
> tomato sauce. Seasonings were just black pepper, parsley and cumin. Didn't
> have to add any bacon or other fat or any lemon or lime juice. Just
> perfect!

Sounds good. I did my usual vegetable soup in my air-conditioned
kitchen (90 F outdoors; 70 F indoors):

Sautee celery, onion, and garlic in olive oil. Add a can of great
northern beans (including liquid), a 14-oz can of diced tomatoes, a
32-oz box of chicken broth and a bay leaf. Simmer that for 20 minutes,
then add about half a pound of frozen green beans and a quarter pound frozen
mixed vegetables. Bring it back to boil, let it simmer for
10 minutes, until beans are very crisp. Take it off the heat.
Add a double handful of frozen cauliflower (chopped)
and a bunch of minced parsley. The vegetables will continue
to cook as the soup cools. The first bowl is a little crunchy,
but reheated for workday lunches it's nearly perfect.

Quite often when I reheat it, I vary the flavor by adding any
(but not all) of basil, cumin, lemon juice, sherry vinegar,
sliced kielbasa, cooked bacon or anything else in the fridge
that looks good.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/3/2015 8:37 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/3/2015 1:39 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 20:39:07 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>I just made some really good bean soup but I am eating it warm and not hot
>because it is still stinking hot in here. Temp. is supposed to drop about
>10 degrees tomorrow but that is still about 10 degrees hotter than normal.
>
>I had some tomatoes that I needed to use up. Bought to eat them raw but
>just haven't felt like eating much of anything. Even having trouble eating
>this soup despite it being so good! I didn't really measure anything but I
>put in about 5 medium sized tomatoes, chopped, seeds, juice and all, three
>cans of beans (dark red kidney, white, small red), 1 large white onion,
>chopped, couple of handful of carrot chips, broken into smaller pieces
>(these are just raw carrots cut on an angle and with ripples), 2 ribs of
>celery, diced, 1 green bell pepper, chopped and some dried bell pepper in
>assorted colors. Also two small boxes of vegetable broth and a small can of
>tomato sauce. Seasonings were just black pepper, parsley and cumin. Didn't
>have to add any bacon or other fat or any lemon or lime juice. Just
>perfect!

What, no stinkin' bacon? I'd have added a half pound of tube steak
coins... yesterday I bought a 40 ounce package of skinless all beef
Sabrett, $12.00 on sale in town... 33 dawgs to the pack, froze em 8 to
the one pint zip-loc, one got 9, laid across the top. I prefer tube
steak to bacon in soup any day, especially bean soup.

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:37:15 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 11:39:19 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I just made some really good bean soup but I am eating it warm and not hot
>> because it is still stinking hot in here. Temp. is supposed to drop about
>> 10 degrees tomorrow but that is still about 10 degrees hotter than normal.
>>
>> I had some tomatoes that I needed to use up. Bought to eat them raw but
>> just haven't felt like eating much of anything. Even having trouble eating
>> this soup despite it being so good! I didn't really measure anything but I
>> put in about 5 medium sized tomatoes, chopped, seeds, juice and all, three
>> cans of beans (dark red kidney, white, small red), 1 large white onion,
>> chopped, couple of handful of carrot chips, broken into smaller pieces
>> (these are just raw carrots cut on an angle and with ripples), 2 ribs of
>> celery, diced, 1 green bell pepper, chopped and some dried bell pepper in
>> assorted colors. Also two small boxes of vegetable broth and a small can of
>> tomato sauce. Seasonings were just black pepper, parsley and cumin. Didn't
>> have to add any bacon or other fat or any lemon or lime juice. Just
>> perfect!
>
>Sounds good. I did my usual vegetable soup in my air-conditioned
>kitchen (90 F outdoors; 70 F indoors):
>
>Sautee celery, onion, and garlic in olive oil. Add a can of great
>northern beans (including liquid), a 14-oz can of diced tomatoes, a
>32-oz box of chicken broth and a bay leaf. Simmer that for 20 minutes,
>then add about half a pound of frozen green beans and a quarter pound frozen
>mixed vegetables. Bring it back to boil, let it simmer for
>10 minutes, until beans are very crisp. Take it off the heat.
>Add a double handful of frozen cauliflower (chopped)
>and a bunch of minced parsley. The vegetables will continue
>to cook as the soup cools. The first bowl is a little crunchy,
>but reheated for workday lunches it's nearly perfect.
>
>Quite often when I reheat it, I vary the flavor by adding any
>(but not all) of basil, cumin, lemon juice, sherry vinegar,
>sliced kielbasa, cooked bacon or anything else in the fridge
>that looks good.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Sliced kielbasa is good, or sliced tube steak.
89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?

On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?

Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.

Cindy Hamilton

On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>
> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.

On 8/4/2015 5:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 4:47 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 4:54 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/4/2015 5:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente - A FRAUD!
Get the **** out of here, you FAT FRAUD biotch troll!




Get out - stalker!


....dump!

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[_J.Llorente _]
(d|||TROLL|||b)
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On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>
>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>
> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.

The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
really simplifies installation - or does it?

On 8/4/2015 5:47 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions.

On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>
>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>>
>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>
> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
> really simplifies installation - or does it?


You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so popular in
the tropics.

I dig those a lot!

On 8/4/2015 6:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>
>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>
>
> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so popular in
> the tropics.
>
> I dig those a lot!

Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!

My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community and
my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.

On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas)
>>>> but
>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>
>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>
>>
>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so popular in
>> the tropics.
>>
>> I dig those a lot!
>
> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>
> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community and
> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.


But did he have working AC?

I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...

On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas)
>>>>> but
>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>
>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>
>>>
>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so popular in
>>> the tropics.
>>>
>>> I dig those a lot!
>>
>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>
>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community and
>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>
>
> But did he have working AC?
>
> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>
>

You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!

On 8/3/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line
>>>>>>> hookup).
>>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas)
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>>
>>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
>>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so popular in
>>>> the tropics.
>>>>
>>>> I dig those a lot!
>>>
>>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>>
>>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community and
>>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
>>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
>>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>>
>>
>> But did he have working AC?
>>
>> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>>
>>
>
> You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
> in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
> Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
> more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!

I don't doubt it. Whose idea was this inhumane working condition anyway?

Just be glad you don't have a "swamp cooler" or you be hot AND sticky!

Oh, maybe your boss is a woman?

http://www.marke****ch.com/story/the...ice-2015-08-03

A new study makes the case that office temperatures are set with men in mind

On 8/3/2015 12:18 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line
>>>>>>>> hookup).
>>>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right
>>>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas)
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>>>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how condensed
>>>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>>>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so
>>>>> popular in
>>>>> the tropics.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dig those a lot!
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>>>
>>>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community
>>>> and
>>>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
>>>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
>>>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>>>
>>>
>>> But did he have working AC?
>>>
>>> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
>> in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
>> Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
>> more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!
>
> I don't doubt it. Whose idea was this inhumane working condition anyway?
>
> Just be glad you don't have a "swamp cooler" or you be hot AND sticky!
>
> Oh, maybe your boss is a woman?
>
> http://www.marke****ch.com/story/the...ice-2015-08-03
>
>
> A new study makes the case that office temperatures are set with men in
> mind

I'm all for accommodating de ladies - I'm thinking 76 degrees as a
temperature in which we can all co-exist and co-work. Hell, we can't
even get that in this lousy building! The property manager has said the
AC needs to be replaced and everything is in place to install a new one.
If you ask me, I think he's stalling!

On 8/3/2015 4:30 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 12:18 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line
>>>>>>>>> hookup).
>>>>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right
>>>>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air
>>>>>>>> gas)
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air around.
>>>>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>>>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how
>>>>>>> condensed
>>>>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water. This
>>>>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so
>>>>>> popular in
>>>>>> the tropics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dig those a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>>>>
>>>>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community
>>>>> and
>>>>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I have no
>>>>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
>>>>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But did he have working AC?
>>>>
>>>> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
>>> in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
>>> Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
>>> more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!
>>
>> I don't doubt it. Whose idea was this inhumane working condition anyway?
>>
>> Just be glad you don't have a "swamp cooler" or you be hot AND sticky!
>>
>> Oh, maybe your boss is a woman?
>>
>> http://www.marke****ch.com/story/the...ice-2015-08-03
>>
>>
>>
>> A new study makes the case that office temperatures are set with men in
>> mind
>
> I'm all for accommodating de ladies - I'm thinking 76 degrees as a
> temperature in which we can all co-exist and co-work.

A completely reasonable number, yes.

> Hell, we can't even get that in this lousy building! The property manager has said the
> AC needs to be replaced and everything is in place to install a new one.
> If you ask me, I think he's stalling!

It should be a simple compressor swap and coolant charge, nothing more.

I smell a cheapskate at work...

On 8/3/2015 12:36 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 4:30 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 12:18 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>>>>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>>>>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line
>>>>>>>>>> hookup).
>>>>>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right
>>>>>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air
>>>>>>>>> gas)
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air
>>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and from a
>>>>>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how
>>>>>>>> condensed
>>>>>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so
>>>>>>> popular in
>>>>>>> the tropics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dig those a lot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I
>>>>>> have no
>>>>>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted his
>>>>>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But did he have working AC?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
>>>> in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
>>>> Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
>>>> more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!
>>>
>>> I don't doubt it. Whose idea was this inhumane working condition anyway?
>>>
>>> Just be glad you don't have a "swamp cooler" or you be hot AND sticky!
>>>
>>> Oh, maybe your boss is a woman?
>>>
>>> http://www.marke****ch.com/story/the...ice-2015-08-03
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A new study makes the case that office temperatures are set with men in
>>> mind
>>
>> I'm all for accommodating de ladies - I'm thinking 76 degrees as a
>> temperature in which we can all co-exist and co-work.
>
> A completely reasonable number, yes.
>
>> Hell, we can't even get that in this lousy building! The property
>> manager has said the
>> AC needs to be replaced and everything is in place to install a new one.
>> If you ask me, I think he's stalling!
>
> It should be a simple compressor swap and coolant charge, nothing more.
>
> I smell a cheapskate at work...

I used to work for a property management company. They managed the
building we were in and when the AC broke down, people would come
storming into the office in a rage. It was quite an amazing thing to see
what a few degrees for an extended period can do to normally rational
folks. Fortunately, I had my little office with a window AC in the
parking lot. Christ, I'm glad I didn't have to work in the main
building. Hee hee.

I got to watch them change out the water chiller unit. They hired a
crane and loaded it into the penthouse from the roof early on a weekend.
It was awesome! It looked like a locomotive coming down from the sky and
rolled into the room on tracks. Oh boy!

On 8/3/2015 5:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 12:36 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 4:30 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2015 12:18 PM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/3/2015 11:27 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 3:22 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 10:12 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:47 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 9:37 AM, Sal Paradise wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved
>>>>>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>>>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next
>>>>>>>>>>> year we
>>>>>>>>>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>>>>>>>>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line
>>>>>>>>>>> hookup).
>>>>>>>>>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right
>>>>>>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>>>>>>>>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air
>>>>>>>>>> gas)
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The systems these days don't need any ducts to move cool air
>>>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>>>> They just hang remote evaporator/fan units with lines to and
>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>> condenser unit installed outside the home. I'm not sure how
>>>>>>>>> condensed
>>>>>>>>> water is handled. Perhaps there's a third drain line for water.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> really simplifies installation - or does it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You must be referring tho those Mitsubishi units that are so
>>>>>>>> popular in
>>>>>>>> the tropics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I dig those a lot!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mr. Slim - what a wonderful name!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My uncle was called "Slim." He was friends with the Samoan community
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> my dad said he was a high chief i.e., "talking stick" chief. I
>>>>>>> have no
>>>>>>> idea what that means. My auntie said that the Samoans only wanted
>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>> money. Beats the heck out of me which is truth - maybe both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But did he have working AC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean at the end of the day, that's what matters...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're absolutely right about that! AC is the most wonderful invention
>>>>> in human history. I'd rather have a working AC than an iPhone 9S!
>>>>> Currently the temperature in my office is 78 degrees. If it goes up 2
>>>>> more degrees, I'm gonna get grumpy!
>>>>
>>>> I don't doubt it. Whose idea was this inhumane working condition
>>>> anyway?
>>>>
>>>> Just be glad you don't have a "swamp cooler" or you be hot AND sticky!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, maybe your boss is a woman?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.marke****ch.com/story/the...ice-2015-08-03
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A new study makes the case that office temperatures are set with men in
>>>> mind
>>>
>>> I'm all for accommodating de ladies - I'm thinking 76 degrees as a
>>> temperature in which we can all co-exist and co-work.
>>
>> A completely reasonable number, yes.
>>
>>> Hell, we can't even get that in this lousy building! The property
>>> manager has said the
>>> AC needs to be replaced and everything is in place to install a new one.
>>> If you ask me, I think he's stalling!
>>
>> It should be a simple compressor swap and coolant charge, nothing more.
>>
>> I smell a cheapskate at work...
>
> I used to work for a property management company. They managed the
> building we were in and when the AC broke down, people would come
> storming into the office in a rage. It was quite an amazing thing to see
> what a few degrees for an extended period can do to normally rational
> folks. Fortunately, I had my little office with a window AC in the
> parking lot. Christ, I'm glad I didn't have to work in the main
> building. Hee hee.
>
> I got to watch them change out the water chiller unit. They hired a
> crane and loaded it into the penthouse from the roof early on a weekend.
> It was awesome! It looked like a locomotive coming down from the sky and
> rolled into the room on tracks. Oh boy!


Good sized building then to have a chiller unit.

In these parts only the larger ones have that - typically it's so dry
that a heavy duty compressor will handle most small building loads.

Those window AC units are all over the brick buildings back on the least
coast - no duct work means make-do.

But they really do a decent job in most cases.

I've given up eating in restaurants with swamp cooler in the summer ,
monsoon renders them utterly useless as the humidity rises.

On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 3:38:15 PM UTC-4, Sal Paradise wrote:
> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> >> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
> >
> > Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
> > One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
> > installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
> > who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
> > We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
> > Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
> > sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
>
> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.

The return air vents were already in place for the forced-air furnace.
Returns under the windows; supply vents on an interior wall. All of
the duct work runs through the basement, as it typical here.


Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>Sal Paradise wrote:
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >
>> >> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>> >
>> > Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>> > One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>> > installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>> > who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>> > We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>> > Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>> > sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>
>The return air vents were already in place for the forced-air furnace.
>Returns under the windows; supply vents on an interior wall. All of
>the duct work runs through the basement, as it typical here.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

When I bought this house it didn't have A/C... what rural NY people
consider A/C is to have humongous trees hanging over the roof for
shade. Right after closing I had central air installed. All ductwork
is in the attic and the unit includes an Aprilair filtration system. I
also had UV treatment installed, it kills 99% of bacteria, viruses,
and mold spores. This system moniters air quality and adds fresh
outside air as needed. Air purification functions even in winter as
when the system doesn't call for cool the blower motor switches to low
speed, so it filters 24/7/365. This system works very well, I never
open windows, in fact I removed all the screens, I hate looking out
through screens anyway, especially when they get filthy with dust and
especially pollen and there is lots of pollen here from trees and hay
fields. Maintaining this system is inexpensive and requires no work
on my part. The service tech checks everything once a year, adds
coolant as needed, and changes the Aprilair filtration element and the
UV lamp every two years. The filtration element is a huge thing but
only costs $40... the UV lamp is pricier, about $100. I had lots of
extra insulation added to the attic, which cut my AC and heating bills
by about 40%, well worth the $600, more than paid for itself twice the
first year.... most houses in the US are pitifully insulated. Next
thing I did was call someone to remove those dangerous trees, and
there was a monster spruce tree in front of each window, looking out
all I saw was a wall of green needles. With this filtration system
and windows always closed dusting and vacuuming is minimal, about once
a month. I think for health reaons it's foolish not to have central
air, even in cooler areas where it's not considered necessary... the
main purpose of air conditioning is to *condition* the air one
breathes, keeping air clean, germ free, and properly humidified is
actually more important than cooling. A swamp cooler adds way too
much humidity, won't be long all the voids in the walls will fill with
black mold.

On 8/4/2015 4:32 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 3:38:15 PM UTC-4, Sal Paradise wrote:
>> On 8/3/2015 1:10 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> 89.5º outside/70º inside... ain't AC wonderful?
>>>
>>> Yes, it is. This house didn't have central air when we moved in.
>>> One summer with a window air conditioner was enough; next year we
>>> installed central air (mostly did it ourselves, but got a friend
>>> who has an HVAC license to advise and to do the coolant line hookup).
>>> We saved a ton of money by DIY. I definitely married the right guy.
>>> Of course, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty (or get a few
>>> sheet-metal cuts), so I work right along side.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>>
>> You must have bought a place with existing ductwork (forced air gas) but
>> even at that you'd need return air vents. That had to be a chore.
>
> The return air vents were already in place for the forced-air furnace.
> Returns under the windows; supply vents on an interior wall. All of
> the duct work runs through the basement, as it typical here.
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


Nice.

That makes what could have been a messy drywall tear-out job a ton easier.

On 8/4/2015 8:32 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

When Jeb's dad was vice-president, Jeb lobbied the federal government
for the owner of a Miami health-maintenance organization who was later
charged with $200 million in Medicare fraud and fled the US. I

On 8/4/2015 7:22 AM, dsi1 wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

When Jeb's dad was vice-president, Jeb lobbied the federal government
for the owner of a Miami health-maintenance organization who was later
charged with $200 million in Medicare fraud and fled the US. I

In article >, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

> A swamp cooler adds way too much humidity, won't be long all the voids
> in the walls will fill with black mold.

I'll bet you can't even buy one at local stores. Swamp coolers work
very well in places with low humidity, and they are very cheap to run.
In areas of high humidity, they're moisture pumps. I ought to know.
They're all I've ever owned. They don't seem to work worth a damn when
it's raining outside which isn't often here.

leo

On 8/4/2015 8:57 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> A swamp cooler adds way too much humidity, won't be long all the voids
>> in the walls will fill with black mold.
>
> I'll bet you can't even buy one at local stores. Swamp coolers work
> very well in places with low humidity, and they are very cheap to run.
> In areas of high humidity, they're moisture pumps. I ought to know.
> They're all I've ever owned. They don't seem to work worth a damn when
> it's raining outside which isn't often here.
>
> leo
>

The monsoon makes a late summer sweat machine out of every swamper here.

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
>> A swamp cooler adds way too much humidity, won't be long all the voids
>> in the walls will fill with black mold.
>
> I'll bet you can't even buy one at local stores. Swamp coolers work
> very well in places with low humidity, and they are very cheap to run.
> In areas of high humidity, they're moisture pumps. I ought to know.
> They're all I've ever owned. They don't seem to work worth a damn when
> it's raining outside which isn't often here.
>
> leo

Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow! Yay! Now
if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for black.
I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof. The
main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it is
pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think that
would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh. Not
quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.

Anyway... At the worst of our heat wave, I could only get the humidity up
to 27% even with the swamp cooler. It was seriously miserable. Right now
it is 71 in the house with 41% humidity. Feels really nice! It's 54
outside.

I can remember when I worked in the Garden Shop at K Mart. We kept the
outside doors propped open when it was busy and the air would get so dry! I
kept a spray bottle near the register and every so often I would spray the
air and breathe in deeply. The moisture felt really good.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!

For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.

> Yay! Now
> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for black.
> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof. The
> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it is
> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think that
> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh. Not
> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.

It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
doors only...not trim around the house though.

Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
choad.
I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.

G.

On 8/5/2015 3:58 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> A swamp cooler adds way too much humidity, won't be long all the voids
>>> in the walls will fill with black mold.
>>
>> I'll bet you can't even buy one at local stores. Swamp coolers work
>> very well in places with low humidity, and they are very cheap to run.
>> In areas of high humidity, they're moisture pumps. I ought to know.
>> They're all I've ever owned. They don't seem to work worth a damn when
>> it's raining outside which isn't often here.
>>
>> leo
>
> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow! Yay!
> Now if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for
> black. I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown
> roof. The main color is called either flower petal or rose petal.
> Can't remember which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more
> neutral than it is pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue.
> He doesn't think that would look good. We have green trim now but the
> main color is bleh. Not quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a
> neutral, un-color.

Go with YOUR preference for green-blue.

Black looks terrible, very severe.

> Anyway... At the worst of our heat wave, I could only get the humidity
> up to 27% even with the swamp cooler. It was seriously miserable.
> Right now it is 71 in the house with 41% humidity. Feels really nice!
> It's 54 outside.
>
> I can remember when I worked in the Garden Shop at K Mart. We kept the
> outside doors propped open when it was busy and the air would get so
> dry! I kept a spray bottle near the register and every so often I would
> spray the air and breathe in deeply. The moisture felt really good.

On 8/5/2015 7:48 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Our heat spell has finally broken and the painter comes tomorrow!
>
> For the last month or so, as you were complaining about the heat, I
> did look occasionally at the Bothel weather report. A few weeks of
> temps in the 70's. That slacker could have painted long before now.
>
>> Yay! Now
>> if we can just see eye to eye on the trim color. He is pushing for black.
>> I just don't think that will look good, especially with the brown roof. The
>> main color is called either flower petal or rose petal. Can't remember
>> which. Sort of a medium tan/rose color but really more neutral than it is
>> pink. I wanted a very dark green or greenish blue. He doesn't think that
>> would look good. We have green trim now but the main color is bleh. Not
>> quite white, not quite beige. Just sort of a neutral, un-color.
>
> It's none of your painter's business. It's your house. BTW - black
> trim on a house never looks very good, imo. Except for shutters and
> doors only...not trim around the house though.

I wouldn't even tolerate it there, it's too severe!

> Lot's of luck with your sappy house painter. He sounds like a total
> choad.
> I've been working in temps going up to mid-90s. No problem with the
> paint as long as you stay out of the direct sun.
>
> G.
>

On 8/5/2015 12:57 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/5/2015 7:58 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/6/2015 1:50 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
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Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

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No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/6/2015 2:02 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

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No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/5/2015 1:45 PM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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, ,',, _| _,.'| | |
\\||/,'(,' '--'' | | |
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| | (- -)<`._ | / /
| | \_\O/_/`-.(<< |____/ /
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| The | |____| | |
|Troll Enabler | _..' | |____|
jrei | |_(____..._' _.' |
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