On 8/4/2015 10:12 AM, notbob wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that RELATIVELY speaking, Islam makes more
sense. Of course, I don't really like either and have no respect for
them. but still, its amusing when Christians mock Islam. (btw, we are
leaving politics out of this. I know the Islamic world is screwed up but
I am talking about the central ideas of the religions, not the
sociopolitical aspect).

Christianity in general is just a strange and illogical concept. God's
only son sacrificed himself for our sins? lowut? God made us. He created
us with this sin. If we are all sinners, its because God himself made us
like that. The fact that he then has to send his son down here for us so
we can repent, believe in him and go to heaven is ridiculous.

Thats not a sacrifice. Thats a threat. Blackmail of sorts. It would be
like me kidnapping someone, putting them in a room with poisinous gas
and then sending my kid in there to resxue them. And when they come out,
I tell them my kid died to rescue them so worship him because I
sacrificed my son for them. EXCEPT I PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
wtffffffffffffffffff. The whole concept if flawed.

The only way to salvation is through Christ. Well cool except humans
have existed for thousands of years before that. Apart from being short
sighted, its a silly idea because if all humans are sinners, who died
for the ones before Christ. And if they are judged differently, then why
should any other human after Christ be judged on their belief in an
event not clearly documented about a person whose life is a mystery.
Makes no sense.

Oh and gays are bad. Cool story bros.

On 8/4/2015 10:30 AM, notbob wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that RELATIVELY speaking, Islam makes more
sense. Of course, I don't really like either and have no respect for
them. but still, its amusing when Christians mock Islam. (btw, we are
leaving politics out of this. I know the Islamic world is screwed up but
I am talking about the central ideas of the religions, not the
sociopolitical aspect).

Christianity in general is just a strange and illogical concept. God's
only son sacrificed himself for our sins? lowut? God made us. He created
us with this sin. If we are all sinners, its because God himself made us
like that. The fact that he then has to send his son down here for us so
we can repent, believe in him and go to heaven is ridiculous.

Thats not a sacrifice. Thats a threat. Blackmail of sorts. It would be
like me kidnapping someone, putting them in a room with poisinous gas
and then sending my kid in there to resxue them. And when they come out,
I tell them my kid died to rescue them so worship him because I
sacrificed my son for them. EXCEPT I PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
wtffffffffffffffffff. The whole concept if flawed.

The only way to salvation is through Christ. Well cool except humans
have existed for thousands of years before that. Apart from being short
sighted, its a silly idea because if all humans are sinners, who died
for the ones before Christ. And if they are judged differently, then why
should any other human after Christ be judged on their belief in an
event not clearly documented about a person whose life is a mystery.
Makes no sense.

Oh and gays are bad. Cool story bros.

On 8/4/2015 10:52 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that RELATIVELY speaking, Islam makes more
sense. Of course, I don't really like either and have no respect for
them. but still, its amusing when Christians mock Islam. (btw, we are
leaving politics out of this. I know the Islamic world is screwed up but
I am talking about the central ideas of the religions, not the
sociopolitical aspect).

Christianity in general is just a strange and illogical concept. God's
only son sacrificed himself for our sins? lowut? God made us. He created
us with this sin. If we are all sinners, its because God himself made us
like that. The fact that he then has to send his son down here for us so
we can repent, believe in him and go to heaven is ridiculous.

Thats not a sacrifice. Thats a threat. Blackmail of sorts. It would be
like me kidnapping someone, putting them in a room with poisinous gas
and then sending my kid in there to resxue them. And when they come out,
I tell them my kid died to rescue them so worship him because I
sacrificed my son for them. EXCEPT I PUT THEM THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
wtffffffffffffffffff. The whole concept if flawed.

The only way to salvation is through Christ. Well cool except humans
have existed for thousands of years before that. Apart from being short
sighted, its a silly idea because if all humans are sinners, who died
for the ones before Christ. And if they are judged differently, then why
should any other human after Christ be judged on their belief in an
event not clearly documented about a person whose life is a mystery.
Makes no sense.

Oh and gays are bad. Cool story bros.

On 8/4/2015 7:25 AM, TRS wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

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No one cares about you.

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On 8/4/2015 1:22 PM, TRS wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/4/2015 10:30 AM, sf wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente is a FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record
ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/4/2015 7:25 AM, TRS wrote:
Fourteen hundred years ago Islam gave women rights; rights that could
not have been imagined by European counterparts. Bold words! Words
that have been spoken repeatedly, especially in the last two or three
decades by Muslim converts, and Islamic writers, academics and educators
across the globe. Women’s rights, responsibilities, and choices have
been the subject of books, articles, essays, and lectures. Sadly
however, convincing the world that Muslim women are not oppressed by
Islam is a message that is just not getting through. Media headlines
scream oppression and the words Muslim, women, and oppression seem to
have become inextricably linked.

No matter what Muslim women do or say to try to convince the world
otherwise, words like hijab, burka, polygamy, and Sharia seem to do
little but convince people that Islam oppresses women. Even educated,
articulate women fulfilling the modest conditions of hijab can do little
to dispel the myths. Women who conduct themselves with decorum and
grace and function effortlessly in the modern world have their
achievements and successes celebrated. However, if a woman wears a
scarf, covers her hair or puts her religion above worldly pursuits she
is immediately labelled oppressed. One wonders if this is the case for
women of other religious persuasions

On 8/3/2015 8:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2015 19:01:07 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the Navy would get chipped beef. The USAF always got
>> hamburger.
>
> My father and grandfather were in the army air corps during WWII and
> their version was made with chipped beef, not hamburger.
>
> Army style (creamed chipped beef)
> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbo..._beef_on_toast
>
> Navy style (minced beef in tomato sauce)
> http://www.seabeecook.com/cookery/co...ooking_sos.htm
>
> Marines style (hamburger in a cream sauce)
> http://www.recipegoldmine.com/military/sos.html
>
>
Huh. My dad was a career Marine and he never once called hamburger in
cream sauce "chipped beef" or "SOS". It was made with dried creamed
chipped beef.

Jill

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:50:50 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 2015-08-03, cshenk > wrote:
> >>
> >> > It changed. We did get decent stuff, but it wasn't the super
> >> > expensive sorts later on.
> >>
> >> I attended a cooking school for 6 mos. It was taught by a Navy
> cook >> retired after a jillion tours. He was actually a very good
> cook, >> until it came to meat. We'd get these awesome roasts.
> Prime rib, >> etc. He'd cook every one of them to death! No
> kidding. Those >> gorgeous choice cut 8-10 lb roasts would not come
> out of our >> commercial convection ovens until they were roasted
> geezer-shoe-brown >> from edge to edge. Our instructor never even
> heard of "rare" or >> "medium".
> >>
> >> Perhaps the Navy would get chipped beef. The USAF always got
> >> hamburger.
> >>
> >> nb
> >
> > Smile, times change and yes, they don't do rare in the Navy. It
> > has to do with storage time and food safety with the gear they
> > have. The USAF were not at sea for months at a time so could get
> > fresh supplies.
> >
> > Now adays, you eat pretty well on a ship (always didnt really once
> > refridgeration was added) but you do run out of fresh stuff.
>
> US Navy ships were outfitted with reefers before most homes.
> You couldn't have been much of a sailer to not know about
> replenishment at sea.... do you really think that when a ship is at
> sea for a year all there is to eat are stale saltines? You were
> obviously in the land navy, never been to sea. It was very rare not
> to have fresh foods, wasn't always store bought baked goods like pies
> and cakes due to limited storage and we'd take on maybe a weeks worth
> before getting underway, but my baking was better than package
> bread anyway... I'd bake 50 loaves of bread every night, 50 pies too,
> plus all sorts of cakes and cookies. We hardly ever ran out of fresh
> produce, pulling up alongside a huge refrigeration ship is like
> pulling up to 50 Super Walmarts... they'd highline far more food than
> we could stow, arrived on one side and was deep sixed on the other,
> they sent so much food because the sooner they were empty the sooner
> they returned to port.
> You woulden't have lasted an hour on a tincan in high seas:
> http://www.wearethemighty.com/watch-...-one-dangerous
> -parts-job-2015-01

Try again Sheldon. I logged more sea years than you had in service.
You either served only in the well supplied areas, or are glossing it
over now so many decades later.

> It was very rare not to have fresh foods,

No, it happens when outside main supply routes. Try the trek to Darwin
from Sasebo Japan. There's 3 weeks outside supply chain there.

And you didnt make 50 full 2 lb loaves of bread there a day, the crew
size was too small then for that. You maybe made 150 *regular buns*
like I made a bakers dozen (13) a day or so ago and am to make another
for us 3 tomorrow.


Sorry, buyt you waxed a bit too much and calling you on it.

Carol



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MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 2:01:12 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> > On 2015-08-03, cshenk > wrote:
> >
> > > It changed. We did get decent stuff, but it wasn't the super
> > > expensive sorts later on.
> >
> > I attended a cooking school for 6 mos. It was taught by a Navy cook
> > retired after a jillion tours. He was actually a very good cook,
> > until it came to meat. We'd get these awesome roasts. Prime rib,
> > etc. He'd cook every one of them to death! No kidding. Those
> > gorgeous choice cut 8-10 lb roasts would not come out of our
> > commercial convection ovens until they were roasted
> > geezer-shoe-brown from edge to edge. Our instructor never even
> > heard of "rare" or "medium".
> >
> > Perhaps the Navy would get chipped beef. The USAF always got
> > hamburger.
> >
> In later years, servicepersons in war zones have gotten better food,
> which is a good thing, and I don't mind in the least paying more
> taxes so that troops can have better food, but instead of using
> military personnel to prepare/serve, they contract out to companies
> that gouge the taxpayers, and it is nothing more than "military
> industrial complex" crony capitalism.
> >
> > nb
>
> --Bryan

Bryan,the Navy doesnt. They have to handle it onboard and it's the
other branches (USAF predominantly) who do that.

Carol, USN RET

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MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 1:44:50 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:49:33 -0400, Brooklyn1
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Travis McGee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...cedo-military-
> > > > > meat -20150802-story.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How we went from beef on the hoof to mystery meat in a box
> > > > > By Anastacia Marx de Salcedo
> > > >
> > > > <gibberish snipped>
> > > >
> > > > That article was obviously written by someone who never served
> > > > in the US military. The US military is served the finast USDA
> > > > graded beef possible, they get the best of the best, chosen way
> > > > ahead of anyone else, no restaurant on the planet gets better
> > > > beef, same for pork and chicken... there is no mystery meat,
> > > > none. What most altered how we eat is modern refrigeration.
> > >
> > > So Sheldpon, you're obviously a military brat, how did it get
> > > called Shit On A Shingle if the beef in that ostensibly creamed
> > > chipped beef was such great beef?
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > Hey John,
> >
> > Sheldon served in Korean war time (1, maybe 2 tours). It changed.
> > We did get decent stuff, but it wasn't the super expensive sorts
> > later on.
> >
> There's nothing horrible about it, and many of us *food slum*, often
> for reasons tied up with nostalgia.
> >
> > Chipped beef done right is actually not only quite good, it's a
> > tradition
>
> Again, nostalgia.
>
> > and sailors like it (grin).
> >
> And you like sailors
> >
> > Carol
> >
> --Bryan

Of course I like sailors. I am one.


Carol, USN RET 26 years (13 years at sea)


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On 8/4/2015 7:27 PM, cshenk wrote:
> MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 1:44:50 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>>> John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:49:33 -0400, Brooklyn1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Travis McGee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...cedo-military-
>>>>>> meat -20150802-story.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How we went from beef on the hoof to mystery meat in a box
>>>>>> By Anastacia Marx de Salcedo
>>>>>
>>>>> <gibberish snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>> That article was obviously written by someone who never served
>>>>> in the US military. The US military is served the finast USDA
>>>>> graded beef possible, they get the best of the best, chosen way
>>>>> ahead of anyone else, no restaurant on the planet gets better
>>>>> beef, same for pork and chicken... there is no mystery meat,
>>>>> none. What most altered how we eat is modern refrigeration.
>>>>
>>>> So Sheldpon, you're obviously a military brat, how did it get
>>>> called Shit On A Shingle if the beef in that ostensibly creamed
>>>> chipped beef was such great beef?
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Hey John,
>>>
>>> Sheldon served in Korean war time (1, maybe 2 tours). It changed.
>>> We did get decent stuff, but it wasn't the super expensive sorts
>>> later on.
>>>
>> There's nothing horrible about it, and many of us *food slum*, often
>> for reasons tied up with nostalgia.
>>>
>>> Chipped beef done right is actually not only quite good, it's a
>>> tradition
>>
>> Again, nostalgia.
>>
>>> and sailors like it (grin).
>>>
>> And you like sailors
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Of course I like sailors. I am one.
>
>
> Carol, USN RET 26 years (13 years at sea)
>
>
Thank you for your service.

On 8/5/2015 11:12 AM, TRS wrote:
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On 8/6/2015 2:06 AM, sf wrote:
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On 8/5/2015 1:38 PM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

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On 8/5/2015 11:18 AM, cshenk wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

In article >, notbob
> wrote:

> I made my own, yesterday morning. Hamburger, flour, milk, salt,
> pepper. Real basic. Tasted jes like I remember from the Air Force.
> Terrible! The first S in SOS is not a misnomer.

A substitute that I think works for chipped beef is a container of
Hillshire Farms thin sliced roast beef. Their pastrami might be even
closer to authentic, but I haven't tried it. At any rate, make the
white sauce and add the beef crudely chopped. It might not be
authentic, but it's pretty good.

leo

On 8/5/2015 6:35 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, notbob
> > wrote:
>
>> I made my own, yesterday morning. Hamburger, flour, milk, salt,
>> pepper. Real basic. Tasted jes like I remember from the Air Force.
>> Terrible! The first S in SOS is not a misnomer.
>
> A substitute that I think works for chipped beef is a container of
> Hillshire Farms thin sliced roast beef. Their pastrami might be even
> closer to authentic, but I haven't tried it. At any rate, make the
> white sauce and add the beef crudely chopped. It might not be
> authentic, but it's pretty good.
>
> leo
>

Excellent suggestion, but wouldn't Carl Buddig beef be even closer to
the original?

On 8/5/2015 9:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You're mistaken.
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:17:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:31:16 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> All true... aboard ship all versions were prepared but SOS with dried
>> chipped beef wasn't served all that often as it was the costliest meal
>> served... I often added quartered hard cooked eggs as a stretcher...
>> the crew liked it so much that they requested it without the chipped
>> beef, they thought I invented the dish, I never told them otherwise.
>> In 1960 eggs were cheap, dried chipped beef cost the navy $17/lb.
>
>You're mistaken. Dried chipped beef doesn't even cost that much in
>2015. And beef costs 8 times as much now as it did in 1963.

You as much as anyone should know that the grubbermint pays
exhorbitant prices for everything, always did... but even so:
http://www.amazon.com/Hormel-Dried-S...d+chipped+beef
At Amazon my math says it costs $1.50/oz or $24/lb. I haven't looked
lately at the ordinary grocery store prices but whenever I did I
thought dried chipped beef was ridiculously expensive... I haven't
eaten any since way back then when I could have all I wanted for free,
but wasn't something I liked so I rarely ate any.. I never cared for
anything in bechamel, still don't. My favorite cured breakfast meat
in the navy were their ham steaks (with the little round bone in the
center), don't know what company produced them but I haven't found any
as good since... were great alongside a sq. yd. mound of my home
fries. I've never been a gravy person, I mix all roast drippings into
the outside cat's food... before those cats I'd pour it on the snow,
next morning it was all gone, never known it was there 'cept for the
critter paw prints. It was mostly the southerners who liked creamed
chipped beef, northerners prefered the ground beef in red sauce
(Manwich style). Very few northerners would eat grits, they prefered
oatmeal. Everyone liked my baked beans, were at most every breakfast,
there were some kind of beans at most every meal. Most southerners
wouldn't eat pasta, some would stare at spaghetti and ask what kind of
worms.

On 8/6/2015 9:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> That's Amazon, you dolt.
SHADDUP!

No one cares.

Get OUT!


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On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:35:39 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:32:25 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 22:17:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 13:31:16 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> All true... aboard ship all versions were prepared but SOS with dried
>>>> chipped beef wasn't served all that often as it was the costliest meal
>>>> served... I often added quartered hard cooked eggs as a stretcher...
>>>> the crew liked it so much that they requested it without the chipped
>>>> beef, they thought I invented the dish, I never told them otherwise.
>>>> In 1960 eggs were cheap, dried chipped beef cost the navy $17/lb.
>>>
>>>You're mistaken. Dried chipped beef doesn't even cost that much in
>>>2015. And beef costs 8 times as much now as it did in 1963.
>>
>> You as much as anyone should know that the grubbermint pays
>> exhorbitant prices for everything, always did... but even so:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Hormel-Dried-S...d+chipped+beef
>> At Amazon my math says it costs $1.50/oz or $24/lb.
>
>That's Amazon, you dolt. They have the highest food prices around
>especially when it comes from third parties.
>
>At a real grocery store I paid $4.19 for a 5oz bottle of the Whoremel
>dried beef which I used just a couple days ago to make this (and will
>be eating the leftovers this morning):
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/sqwert...ream/lightbox/
>
>Even Walmart online sells it for $1.10/oz online - including shipping.
>
>But what's perplexing is why you think the military was paying 2020's
>retail prices for food back in 1960? These are not toilet seats. The
>military was paying bargain basement prices for food (which ispart of
>what the OP article is about!).
>
>Dried beef *is* pretty expensive for what it is, very low-quality
>ground beef

Actually it's not ground, it's a good cut of beef that's cured, dried,
and shaved.

>with salt and nitrites dried to 50% it's original weight -
>about $5/lb in raw to finished materials and processing. It's not a
>big seller at retail and is only kept around for nostalgia's sake.
>Same with those tiny glass bottles of "Olde English' cheese spreads
>and soon to be SPAM, both of which are also artificially expensive.
>
>-sw

On 8/6/2015 1:32 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:


> Actually it's not ground, it's a good cut of beef that's cured, dried,
> and shaved.

https://www.buddig.com/products_original.aspx

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On 8/6/2015 10:35 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 5:32 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 12:32 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/6/2015 6:34 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> You are truly out of touch with reality
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Dried beef *is* pretty expensive for what it is, very low-quality
> ground beef with salt and nitrites dried to 50% it's original weight -
> about $5/lb in raw to finished materials and processing. It's not a
> big seller at retail and is only kept around for nostalgia's sake.
> Same with those tiny glass bottles of "Olde English' cheese spreads
> and soon to be SPAM, both of which are also artificially expensive.

The "Olde English" cheese is certainly nothing special.
I have a crab recipe that calls for it and I always bought the OE
cheese thinking it had some special taste. I never tasted it plain, I
just mixed it in. Last time though I decided to try a spoonful by
itself. I couldn't believe I'd been paying so much for this tiny jar
all the years. It tastes just like 'american cheese product' to me.

Next time I make this recipe I'll just melt some of those slices. Or
maybe buy some real mild cheddar from the deli to melt. All about the
same taste.

On 8/7/2015 4:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Dried beef *is* pretty expensive for what it is, very low-quality
>> ground beef with salt and nitrites dried to 50% it's original weight -
>> about $5/lb in raw to finished materials and processing. It's not a
>> big seller at retail and is only kept around for nostalgia's sake.
>> Same with those tiny glass bottles of "Olde English' cheese spreads
>> and soon to be SPAM, both of which are also artificially expensive.
>
> The "Olde English" cheese is certainly nothing special.
> I have a crab recipe that calls for it and I always bought the OE
> cheese thinking it had some special taste. I never tasted it plain, I
> just mixed it in. Last time though I decided to try a spoonful by
> itself. I couldn't believe I'd been paying so much for this tiny jar
> all the years. It tastes just like 'american cheese product' to me.
>
> Next time I make this recipe I'll just melt some of those slices. Or
> maybe buy some real mild cheddar from the deli to melt. All about the
> same taste.
>
There's always Cheese-Whiz

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 8/7/2015 4:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >> Dried beef *is* pretty expensive for what it is, very low-quality
> >> ground beef with salt and nitrites dried to 50% it's original weight -
> >> about $5/lb in raw to finished materials and processing. It's not a
> >> big seller at retail and is only kept around for nostalgia's sake.
> >> Same with those tiny glass bottles of "Olde English' cheese spreads
> >> and soon to be SPAM, both of which are also artificially expensive.
> >
> > The "Olde English" cheese is certainly nothing special.
> > I have a crab recipe that calls for it and I always bought the OE
> > cheese thinking it had some special taste. I never tasted it plain, I
> > just mixed it in. Last time though I decided to try a spoonful by
> > itself. I couldn't believe I'd been paying so much for this tiny jar
> > all the years. It tastes just like 'american cheese product' to me.
> >
> > Next time I make this recipe I'll just melt some of those slices. Or
> > maybe buy some real mild cheddar from the deli to melt. All about the
> > same taste.
> >
> There's always Cheese-Whiz

Seriously, that's probably just as good as that stupid Olde English
cheese.

On 8/7/2015 7:24 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The "Olde English" cheese is certainly nothing special.
>>> I have a crab recipe that calls for it and I always bought the OE
>>> cheese thinking it had some special taste. I never tasted it plain, I
>>> just mixed it in. Last time though I decided to try a spoonful by
>>> itself. I couldn't believe I'd been paying so much for this tiny jar
>>> all the years. It tastes just like 'american cheese product' to me.
>>>
>>> Next time I make this recipe I'll just melt some of those slices. Or
>>> maybe buy some real mild cheddar from the deli to melt. All about the
>>> same taste.
>>>
>> There's always Cheese-Whiz
>
> Seriously, that's probably just as good as that stupid Olde English
> cheese.
>
I know. That's why I mentioned it. Easier than melting sliced "cheese
product", right? It probably has the same consistency as those little
crocks. I dunno, I never bought them but I've seen them.

Jill

On 8/7/2015 2:14 PM, TRS wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

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On 8/7/2015 9:24 PM, Gary wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 10:08 PM, jmcquown wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 2:55 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Dried beef *is* pretty expensive for what it is, very low-quality
>> ground beef with salt and nitrites dried to 50% it's original weight -
>> about $5/lb in raw to finished materials and processing. It's not a
>> big seller at retail and is only kept around for nostalgia's sake.
>> Same with those tiny glass bottles of "Olde English' cheese spreads
>> and soon to be SPAM, both of which are also artificially expensive.
>
> The "Olde English" cheese is certainly nothing special.
> I have a crab recipe that calls for it and I always bought the OE
> cheese thinking it had some special taste. I never tasted it plain, I
> just mixed it in. Last time though I decided to try a spoonful by
> itself. I couldn't believe I'd been paying so much for this tiny jar
> all the years. It tastes just like 'american cheese product' to me.
>
> Next time I make this recipe I'll just melt some of those slices. Or
> maybe buy some real mild cheddar from the deli to melt. All about the
> same taste.
>


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