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On 6 Aug 2015 16:02:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> What is umami? Is it a real deal or jes some Asians trying to foist
> their cooking methods/terms off as some sorta scientific fact? If
> tomatoes and other MSG heavy foods are particularly savory, is that a
> whole new element for one's palate to discern? Why is sweet, sour,
> bitter, and salty not enough? In short, is "umami" a real distinction
> or jes another trendy term being ferociously flogged through the
> food-o-sphere?


You can buy "umami" paste, but it's made of things you'd recognize -

Tomato paste
Garlic
Anchovy paste
Black olives
Balsamic vinegar
Dehydrated porcini mushrooms
Parmesan cheese
Olive oil
Wine vinegar
Sugar
Salt

So IMO, umami is the new "je nes se quois".

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On 8/7/2015 2:24 PM, sf wrote:
In addition to the hips and thighs, your butt seems to be a gargantuan
problem area. To reduce the size of your enormous buttocks, you must
reduce your body fat. Solely performing exercises that target the glutes
is not going to reduce fat because eliminating fat from one area of the
body isn't possible. To lose weight and slim down your butt,
MayoClinic.com recommends creating a daily gradual limb reduction
program through amputation and drug abuse so that you lose weight
gradually at a rate of 1 to 2 kilotons per week.
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On 8/7/2015 2:24 PM, sf wrote:
In addition to the hips and thighs, your butt seems to be a gargantuan
problem area. To reduce the size of your enormous buttocks, you must
reduce your body fat. Solely performing exercises that target the glutes
is not going to reduce fat because eliminating fat from one area of the
body isn't possible. To lose weight and slim down your butt,
MayoClinic.com recommends creating a daily gradual limb reduction
program through amputation and drug abuse so that you lose weight
gradually at a rate of 1 to 2 kilotons per week.
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On 8/8/2015 1:10 AM, TRS wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 2:24 PM, sf wrote:
> In addition to the hips and thighs, your butt seems to be a gargantuan
> problem area. To reduce the size of your enormous buttocks, you must
> reduce your body fat. Solely performing exercises that target the glutes
> is not going to reduce fat because eliminating fat from one area of the
> body isn't possible. To lose weight and slim down your butt,
> MayoClinic.com recommends creating a daily gradual limb reduction
> program through amputation and drug abuse so that you lose weight
> gradually at a rate of 1 to 2 kilotons per week.


Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.
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I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant impression,
or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that idea came
from.

N.


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On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:06:50 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
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> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant impression,
> or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that idea came
> from.
>
> N.
> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant impression,
> or a feeling, not an actual physical product.


Correct.

> I don't know where that idea came from.
>

You know how people are these days. They want a shortcut to
reproducing it rather than learn to combine ingredients deftly until
they create umami.

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On 8/10/2015 8:47 PM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:06:50 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant impression,
>> or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that idea came
>> from.
>>
>> N.
>> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant impression,
>> or a feeling, not an actual physical product.

>
> Correct.
>
>> I don't know where that idea came from.
>>

> You know how people are these days. They want a shortcut to
> reproducing it rather than learn to combine ingredients deftly until
> they create umami.
>

Caught an episode of 'Friends' yesterday in which the character Ross
claimed it was "unagi".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md-zDIxNht4

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Nancy2 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant
> impression, or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't
> know where that idea came from.
>
> N.


Actually, you have the right of the word as it is. There are food
products that create that. The Japanese coined a word for that umami.

If I were to put it in my own words, it's that thing that makes you
smile.

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> I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant
> impression,
> or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that
> idea came
> from.


Same here. I guess we learn something every day

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On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 5:14:41 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant
> > impression,
> > or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that
> > idea came
> > from.

>
> Same here. I guess we learn something every day


It's marketing hyperbole. "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).

Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
> that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
> which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).
>
> Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.


What? ;-o
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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
>> that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
>> which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).
>>
>> Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.

>
> What? ;-o


Ohh noooo and you really only wanted the bag ... ;-)



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Ophelia wrote:
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> "Gary" > wrote in message ...
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
> >> that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
> >> which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).
> >>
> >> Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.

> >
> > What? ;-o

>
> Ohh noooo and you really only wanted the bag ... ;-)


I have absolutely no idea what you two are talking about when you
discuss "bed in a bag." Is this some brit thing that has some
meaning? help me here
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On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 7:21:58 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
> > that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
> > which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).
> >
> > Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.

>
> What? ;-o


"Bed in a Bag" is a way of marketing bed linens. You get sheets,
a comforter and a bed skirt, all color-coordinated.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 5:14:41 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I always had the i pression that umami was an idea or a pleasant
>> > impression,
>> > or a feeling, not an actual physical product. I don't know where that
>> > idea came
>> > from.

>>
>> Same here. I guess we learn something every day

>
> It's marketing hyperbole. "Umami paste" is a combination of foods
> that are high in the amino acids that produce the umami taste (for
> which scientists have found receptors on the tongue).


Ahh that answers that one Thanks

> Like "bed in a bag". You don't get an actual bed in a bag.


LOL not something I've ever bought but I will keep it in mind <g>

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On 8/6/2015 10:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 21:24:56 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>> On 6 Aug 2015 16:02:48 GMT, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>> What is umami? Is it a real deal or jes some Asians trying to foist
>>> their cooking methods/terms off as some sorta scientific fact? If
>>> tomatoes and other MSG heavy foods are particularly savory, is that a
>>> whole new element for one's palate to discern? Why is sweet, sour,
>>> bitter, and salty not enough? In short, is "umami" a real distinction
>>> or jes another trendy term being ferociously flogged through the
>>> food-o-sphere?

>>
>> You can buy "umami" paste, but it's made of things you'd recognize -
>>
>> Tomato paste
>> Garlic
>> Anchovy paste
>> Black olives
>> Balsamic vinegar
>> Dehydrated porcini mushrooms
>> Parmesan cheese
>> Olive oil
>> Wine vinegar
>> Sugar
>> Salt
>>
>> So IMO, umami is the new "je nes se quois".

>
> Is that a native Indian language?
>


Are you an idiot expat?
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On 8/7/2015 2:33 PM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.
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On 8/7/2015 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.
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On 8/7/2015 2:26 PM, Bruce wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.
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On 8/9/2015 2:27 AM, Janet wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.
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On 8/6/2015 11:07 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I have some of that. It's not worth it.
>> Omelet wrote:

>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...

>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.


For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

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On 8/8/2015 3:03 AM, TRS wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente - A FRAUD!
Get the **** out of here, you FAT FRAUD biotch troll!




Get out - stalker!


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