On 8/8/2015 5:33 AM, wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 10:04 PM, Ophelia wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/8/2015 7:35 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as €œOperation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar€�, and later to become known as €œThe Finders or
The Franklin Coverup€�. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Franks condo, known as a €œBrownstone€�
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators €” some willing and some unwilling participants €” got a taste of
the €œVoodoo Drug€� in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled €œThrough a Glass Very Darkly€�. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation €” also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/8/2015 5:39 PM, Ophelia wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

In article >,
says...

> There is no Taco Bell in the UK?

Only for the past 35 years. Plus the makings are sold in every smkt
with pictures and instructions and ready mades in cinemas.

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/brand..._in_tesco.html

Janet UK

On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?

My experience with sopapillas is strictly the US version: as a dessert
or a treat, folded small deep fried tortillas filled with and drizzled
with warm honey. Sometimes sprinkled with cinnamon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopaipilla

Jill

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:26:32 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> ... quesadillas, tortillas, tacos, burritos, tostadas, chimichangas, and
> taquitos!
>
> What are they, please? Am I right in thinking they are all tortillas? What
> makes them different?
>
http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/los-a...rill-woodridge

Here's a bunch of photos from a place we ate a few days ago. I took my son
and his two friends to Chicago on a tour of skateparks.

http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/los-a...rill-woodridge

Funny, but the one thing not pictured was what we all had, which was a
giant steak burrito. with double beans instead of rice and beans. Los
Arcos is a must every time we go to Chicago.

--Bryan

"MisterDiddyWahDiddy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 3:26:32 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>> ... quesadillas, tortillas, tacos, burritos, tostadas, chimichangas, and
>> taquitos!
>>
>> What are they, please? Am I right in thinking they are all tortillas?
>> What
>> makes them different?
>>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/los-a...rill-woodridge
>
> Here's a bunch of photos from a place we ate a few days ago. I took my
> son
> and his two friends to Chicago on a tour of skateparks.
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/los-a...rill-woodridge
>
> Funny, but the one thing not pictured was what we all had, which was a
> giant steak burrito. with double beans instead of rice and beans. Los
> Arcos is a must every time we go to Chicago.
>

It all looks very good)


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On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:

> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?

That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
bread?

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>
> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
> bread?

lol ... I am beginning to understand ...)


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On 08/08/2015 12:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>
>

Not at all. Sopapillas are made of leavened bread, rolled flat, cut into
squares and deep fried. The goal is to make them puff up while cooking
so you have a hollow pillow you can stuff with butter and honey, for
instance.

On 2015-08-08 13:42:57 +0000, Nancy Young said:

> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>
> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
> bread?

A sopapilla is made as a pastry from wheat flour. A tortilla is (in
this context) most frequently made from unleavened finely ground corn.
So it's more like saying a cake is another kind of potato chip.

If a sopapilla is another "kind of tortilla", apparently everything
that isn't meat is a tortilla.

"Whirled Peas" > wrote in message
...
> On 08/08/2015 12:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. Sopapillas are made of leavened bread, rolled flat, cut into
> squares and deep fried. The goal is to make them puff up while cooking so
> you have a hollow pillow you can stuff with butter and honey, for
> instance.

Oh! Thank you)


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On 8/8/2015 12:17 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2015-08-08 13:42:57 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>
>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>
>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>> bread?
>
> A sopapilla is made as a pastry from wheat flour. A tortilla is (in
> this context) most frequently made from unleavened finely ground corn.
> So it's more like saying a cake is another kind of potato chip.
>
> If a sopapilla is another "kind of tortilla", apparently everything that
> isn't meat is a tortilla.

My point wasn't that bread and tortillas are made with the
same ingredients, but that they serve a similar function and
when she's asking if different items are tortillas, she's using
the word in the wrong context. They're different things made with
tortillas. But a BLT and a peanut butter sandwich are made
with bread, but you don't say So a peanut butter sandwich is
another kind of bread?

I think Ophelia understood my point, anyway.

nancy

On 2015-08-08 16:57:01 +0000, Nancy Young said:

> On 8/8/2015 12:17 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-08-08 13:42:57 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>>
>>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>>
>>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>>> bread?
>>
>> A sopapilla is made as a pastry from wheat flour. A tortilla is (in
>> this context) most frequently made from unleavened finely ground corn.
>> So it's more like saying a cake is another kind of potato chip.
>>
>> If a sopapilla is another "kind of tortilla", apparently everything that
>> isn't meat is a tortilla.
>
> My point wasn't that bread and tortillas are made with the
> same ingredients, but that they serve a similar function and
> when she's asking if different items are tortillas, she's using
> the word in the wrong context.

I didn't address your point. My point was that a sopapilla and a
tortilla are very different kinds of foodstuffs, whether they are
components in another construct or not.

On 8/8/2015 1:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> Or just go all out and make sopapillas fried folded so they can be
>> filled with toasted marshmallow fluff and ???
>
> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?


Not so much, more like a gordita or arepa.

On 8/8/2015 1:09 PM, gtr wrote:> On 2015-08-08 16:57:01 +0000, Nancy
Young said:
>
>> On 8/8/2015 12:17 PM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-08 13:42:57 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>>>
>>>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>>>
>>>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>>>> bread?
>>>
>>> A sopapilla is made as a pastry from wheat flour. A tortilla is (in
>>> this context) most frequently made from unleavened finely ground corn.
>>> So it's more like saying a cake is another kind of potato chip.
>>>
>>> If a sopapilla is another "kind of tortilla", apparently everything
that
>>> isn't meat is a tortilla.
>>
>> My point wasn't that bread and tortillas are made with the
>> same ingredients, but that they serve a similar function and
>> when she's asking if different items are tortillas, she's using
>> the word in the wrong context.
>
> I didn't address your point. My point was that a sopapilla and a
> tortilla are very different kinds of foodstuffs, whether they are
> components in another construct or not.

Ah, and I didn't address the subject of sopapillas, I leave that
to people who have had that dessert. I was clarifying an ongoing
use of the word tortilla by Ophelia, trying to clear that up for
her.

nancy

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 14:53:03 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>
>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>> bread?
>
>lol ... I am beginning to understand ...)

think of tortillas as another culture's bread. A lot of the dishes
you mentioned could be likened to a version of sandwich. Beans, rice,
shredded meat are all ways to stretch food. You can hold onto the
filling better if you wrap a tortilla around it.
Janet US

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/8/2015 12:17 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2015-08-08 13:42:57 +0000, Nancy Young said:
>>
>>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>>
>>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>>> bread?
>>
>> A sopapilla is made as a pastry from wheat flour. A tortilla is (in
>> this context) most frequently made from unleavened finely ground corn.
>> So it's more like saying a cake is another kind of potato chip.
>>
>> If a sopapilla is another "kind of tortilla", apparently everything that
>> isn't meat is a tortilla.
>
> My point wasn't that bread and tortillas are made with the
> same ingredients, but that they serve a similar function and
> when she's asking if different items are tortillas, she's using
> the word in the wrong context. They're different things made with
> tortillas. But a BLT and a peanut butter sandwich are made
> with bread, but you don't say So a peanut butter sandwich is
> another kind of bread?
>
> I think Ophelia understood my point, anyway.

I did and thank you

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On 8/8/2015 7:54 PM, Janet wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/9/2015 2:14 AM, Whirled Peas wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/8/2015 10:17 PM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/9/2015 3:11 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 14:53:03 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 8/8/2015 3:39 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, is 'sopapillas' yet another version of tortilla?
>>>
>>> That's kind of like saying Is a BLT another version of
>>> bread?
>>
>>lol ... I am beginning to understand ...)
>
> think of tortillas as another culture's bread. A lot of the dishes
> you mentioned could be likened to a version of sandwich. Beans, rice,
> shredded meat are all ways to stretch food. You can hold onto the
> filling better if you wrap a tortilla around it.

Yes. That makes sense


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On 8/9/2015 2:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/8/2015 11:42 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/9/2015 3:09 AM, gtr wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> "gtr" > wrote in message
> news:2015080618130958644-xxx@yyyzzz...
> > On 2015-08-06 20:26:20 +0000, Ophelia said:
> >
> > > ... quesadillas, tortillas, tacos, burritos, tostadas,
> > > chimichangas, and taquitos!
> >
> > You left out enchiladas amon others.
>
> Ahhh I wondered if there were any more. Yes I have seen those
> mentioned here but forgot them when I made my list
>
> Any others?
>
>
>
> >
> > > What are they, please? Am I right in thinking they are all
> > > tortillas? What makes them different?
> >
> > You've got to make it to Southern California some time in life. It
> > will be a great adventure.
> >
> > There are many other Mexican items that make simplistic use of
> > simple items. They also use corn masa as the base or external
> > structure as with tamales, pombasos, tlacayo, sope, huarache. The
> > last two are more or less a bed of masa--the first is round, the
> > second is elongated (like a sandal; a huarache).
> >
> > And so forth.
> >

Tamales got left out too.

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William wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:13:09 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
> > They also use corn masa as the base or external structure as
> > with tamales, pombasos, tlacayo, sope, huarache.
>
>
> it's wierd. I like most Mexican food but "tamales". There is something
> in tamales that I just can't put my finger on but I don't like the
> flavor.
>
> William

Could be the flavoring from the roasted corn husk?



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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 9:08:10 AM UTC-6, Japhy Ryder wrote:
> > On 8/7/2015 11:58 PM, William wrote:
> > I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve
> > into the "alleged" lurid past of one of our former presidents,
> > George Herbert Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch
> > of the Bush Family Dynasty - I refer to them as the Bush Family
> > Crime Syndicate, certainly not in terms of endearment - but rather
> > more like the Mafia Godfather who prepares his sons to take over
> > the family business upon his death. This particular post
> > references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of Veterans Today.
> >
> > In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
> > clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation
> > within the arsenal of the United States government as either 1)
> > Director of the CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an
> > unwitting puppet to the Bush controlled cabal - GHWB secretly gave
> > Reagan poisons that hastened his fall into Alzheimer's Disease and
> > evidence suggests he helped plan Reagan' attempted assassination by
> > John Hinckley, whose family were close friends of the Bush family -
> > a coincidence?) and 3) ultimately as President of the United States
> > before Bill Clinton took office.
>
> Desist thou varlet...no more of this Bush and other political
> nonsense. Are you some kind of idiot? Posting crap day after
> day...fool. ===

I Bozo binned quite a few of these idiots who were cross posting crap
here. Looks like I lost Marty B as well in that bunch.

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wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 11:08:24 -0400, William > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 18:03:57 -0400, Nancy Young
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not all that familiar with the different things you mention.
> > > Of course I've heard of them. Sometimes it's the way they're
> > > folded, sometimes they're fried. To me they are all pretty
> > > similar.
> > >
> > > nancy
> >
> >
> > When you examine the Taco Bell Entrees, the difference is in the
> > breading...hard taco shells...soft taco shells...tortillas...very
> > thick soft taco shells...
> >
> >
> > stuffing with beef, chicken, pork, cheese, avocado, onions, sour
> > cream, lettuce, creamed pinto beans, diced tomatoes, chopped green
> > peppers
> >
> >
> > William
>
> If I went to Mexico would I find a Taco Bell ? Are all their dishes
> truly Mexican ?
>
>

Lol, not likely but the food is a rough approximate (made more cheaply
for fast food) of some of the things they have. Keep in mind Mexico is
HUGE so some aspects of the food talked about here would be as
diversely spread as a New Orleans Gombo to Boston baked beans...

Carol

On 8/8/2015 1:09 PM, cshenk wrote:
> William wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:13:09 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>>
>>> They also use corn masa as the base or external structure as
>>> with tamales, pombasos, tlacayo, sope, huarache.
>>
>>
>> it's wierd. I like most Mexican food but "tamales". There is something
>> in tamales that I just can't put my finger on but I don't like the
>> flavor.
>>
>> William
>
> Could be the flavoring from the roasted corn husk?
>
>
>
Not roasted, steamed.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:01:19 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>
> > On 2015-08-07 15:46:59 +0000, said:
> >
> >> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:44:09 -0700, gtr > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2015-08-07 15:10:07 +0000, said:
> >>>
> >>>> If I went to Mexico would I find a Taco Bell ? Are all their
> dishes >>>> truly Mexican ?
> >>>
> >>> No, and definitely no, respectively. It's a fine fast-food snack
> food. >>> But any decent Mexican restaurant, and many undecent, in
> both the US >>> and Mexico are vastly better as restaurants and as
> foodstuffs. >>
> >> We do have them here but I am not particularly a FF addict and have
> >> never tried it.
> >
> > Give it a shot; it's fun and tasty and unhealthly, like street food.
> >
> On a line with McDogs ?

No, actually Taco Bell is not too horrendously far off healthy eating
if you use reasonable portion control.

http://www.tacobell.com/nutrition/information

Pretty easy to get a decent meal for 500 calories there.

Carol

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On 8/8/2015 3:09 PM, cshenk wrote:
> William wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:13:09 -0700, gtr > wrote:
>>
>>> They also use corn masa as the base or external structure as
>>> with tamales, pombasos, tlacayo, sope, huarache.
>>
>>
>> it's wierd. I like most Mexican food but "tamales". There is something
>> in tamales that I just can't put my finger on but I don't like the
>> flavor.
>>
>> William
>
> Could be the flavoring from the roasted corn husk?
>
>
>
The tamales around where I live are steamed (not roasted) in banana
leaves. Soaked corn husks are traditional in some places (as when I
made them - never again!) but not required.

Jill

On 8/8/2015 3:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
> I Bozo binned quite a few of these idiots who were cross posting crap
> here. Looks like I lost Marty B as well in that bunch.

I've no idea why people keep replying to the trolls. They're easy
enough to spot.

Jill

On 8/9/2015 4:15 AM, gtr wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/9/2015 3:43 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/9/2015 3:41 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.

On 8/8/2015 1:49 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/8/2015 3:21 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> I Bozo binned quite a few of these idiots who were cross posting crap
>> here. Looks like I lost Marty B as well in that bunch.
>
> I've no idea why people keep replying to the trolls. They're easy
> enough to spot.
>
> Jill

Yes you are, biotch.

On 8/9/2015 5:48 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/8/2015 3:09 PM, cshenk wrote:
It has even been confirmed that George Bush (GHWB) denied presidents,
during and after his tenure in office, access to sensitive data, such
the the U.S. UFO files due to the fact they did not possess the proper
security clearances. President Carter wanted to access those files due
to his own experience of seeing a UFO but was denied access by the CIA.
To this day, GHWB exercises undue influence within the CIA as he made
sure he had loyal operatives at all levels, starting at the
directorship. Then again he made sure he had damaging information on
many key individuals, all else failing he “ordered their
neutralization,” former CIA Director William Colby, being a notable
example. The official finding was suicide.

He is known, by many government insiders, to be an openingly unabashed
(doesn’t hide it among friends) pedophile, specifically referring to the
Franklin Community Credit Union scandal in the 1980s which was a major
national scandal that was covered-up by White House officials during the
time GHWB was vice president to Reagan and later.

He is also a practicing satanist by many accounts (now very popular
among the elite with their hand signs and T.V shows with satanic symbols
and themes – Beyonce, one among many); a coward (during World War II);
authorized the assassinations of democratically elected foreign leaders,
as well as American citizens – most notably Ross Perot who ran against
him as president – and used the CIA as a front for drug smuggling into
the United States using military transport aircraft and ships, a
practice that started with the Iran/Contra Scandal and later blossomed
as a major source of black operations funding outside the congressional
budget appropriations process where Congress controls the purse.