On 8/6/2015 4:17 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Safe and good for the environment.
>
> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>

The other side of the coin:

http://www.responsibletechnology.org...-to-Avoid-GMOs

On 8/7/2015 7:33 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 8:17 AM, Mark Thorson wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 7:33 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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Safe and good for the environment.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html

On 2015-08-06, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> Safe and good for the environment.

And here I thought you were a health food advocate. Apparently not.


Is the author a scientist? No. Jes another talking head voicing his
opinion.


Here are some facts:

*A Mexican judge has issued a ban against transgenic corn, cuz it's screwing up
Mexico's native corn species.

*GMO Farmers are no longer allowed to legally retain their seeds.

*The EPA is staffed by many ex-Monsanto folks.

*GE foods do not occur naturally in nature.

*Monsanto told us DDT is safe.

*Monsanto told us PCBs are safe.

*Monsanto told us there is no side effects from Agent Orange.

*The public is not getting all the facts from biotech corporations.


I also am not a scientist. I must rely on other's statements to form
my own opinion. Do I think GMO foods are truly bad? Well, I do
believe the "facts" I listed above. I also believe I should have a
choice. These labeling arguement the biotech corps spend millions of
dollars pushing are bogus. If they can list all the chemical
ingredients on a pkg and change materials/labels/info at the drop of a
hat, why such secrecy? Why not jes tell us and give us a choice?

I suspect they are lying. (personal opinion)

nb

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Safe and good for the environment.
>
> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html

People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully, the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.

On 8/7/2015 8:35 AM, dsi1 wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/7/2015 8:25 AM, notbob wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

>

On 8/7/2015 8:28 AM, Bruce wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/7/2015 9:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
Running for the White House, Jeb Bush portrays himself as a man who has
"worked his tail off" to get ahead in life. But in his business
dealings—which involved such diverse fields as real estate, credit card
services, and water pumps—the candidate seemed to benefit from his
father's political power and worked with people who turned out to be
criminals, the Washington Post reports. Bush's business outlook in his
early years was "a little bit of damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead,"
says a professor who wrote about him. "His judgment on who to associate
with is lacking." Unlike his father and brother George, who each made
fortunes as young men, Jeb jumped from one business venture to another,
at times with unsavory characters.

On 8/7/2015 9:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:17:18 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Safe and good for the environment.
>
>http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html

Um, no:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiU3Ndi6itk&t=1772

John Kuthe...

On 8/7/2015 9:25 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 9:03 AM, Bruce wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 10:09 AM, Japhy Ryder wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 9:25 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/6/2015 1:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 15:35:59 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>
>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully, the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>
> Don't worry. Money always wins.
>

Well OK then, I won't!

On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>
>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>
> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully, the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>
Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a twist:-)
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they

--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>
>>
>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>
> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
> twist:-)
> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>

No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.

What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
down shell of a hellish existence?

On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>>
>>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>>> twist:-)
>>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>>
>>
>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>
>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>
> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
> but it has its own logic.
>

Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
technological world. Fear sucks!

On 8/6/2015 7:59 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>>>
>>>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>>>> twist:-)
>>>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>>>
>>>
>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>
>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>
>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>> but it has its own logic.
>>
>
> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
> technological world. Fear sucks!


Skynet archived that :-(

On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>>>>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>>>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>>>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>>>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>>>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>>>>> twist:-)
>>>>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>
>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>
>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>
> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
> have to fear being hit by a car
>

I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
helpful tip for yanks in the UK.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 14:17:18 -0800, Mark Thorson >
> wrote:
>
>>Safe and good for the environment.
>>
>>http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>
> Just label the stuff so everybody can make their own choice.

I guess companies don't want people to know or their profits will fall. But
you are right, that is what should happen.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 8/6/2015 10:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>>>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>>>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>>>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>>>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>>>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>>>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>
>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>
>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>
> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>

I wish these countries would fix this glaring problem with their
motorways. While they're at it, they can't fix that goofy steering
problem - they make driving the car practically impossible by placing it
too far on the right. You can forget about reaching those pedals too.
When we were in the UK, I had to have someone sitting in the passenger
seat working the pedals. The driver can only use one hand to drive the
car. That's crazy! The next time I go, they'll probably have the
steering wheel in the back seat.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat -
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>>>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>>>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>>>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>
>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>
>>I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>>Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>>the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>
> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.

In AU they drive on the left?

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/6/2015 10:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the
>>>>>>> foods we
>>>>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat -
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a
>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>>>>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>>>>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>
>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>
>>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>
>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>
>
> I wish these countries would fix this glaring problem with their
> motorways. While they're at it, they can't fix that goofy steering
> problem - they make driving the car practically impossible by placing it
> too far on the right. You can forget about reaching those pedals too. When
> we were in the UK, I had to have someone sitting in the passenger seat
> working the pedals. The driver can only use one hand to drive the car.
> That's crazy! The next time I go, they'll probably have the steering wheel
> in the back seat.

LOL You are in fine form today))


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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:03:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>>
>>>>I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>>>>Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>>>>the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>>>right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>>>helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>
>>In AU they drive on the left?
>
> Yes, unfortunately for me

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:55:31 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>>On 8/6/2015 10:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the
>>>>>>>> foods we
>>>>>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat -
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a
>>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM
>>>>>>> foods
>>>>>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>>>>>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>>
>>>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>>>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>>>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>>
>>
>>I wish these countries would fix this glaring problem with their
>>motorways. While they're at it, they can't fix that goofy steering
>>problem - they make driving the car practically impossible by placing it
>>too far on the right. You can forget about reaching those pedals too.
>>When we were in the UK, I had to have someone sitting in the passenger
>>seat working the pedals. The driver can only use one hand to drive the
>>car. That's crazy! The next time I go, they'll probably have the
>>steering wheel in the back seat.
>
> Next time, try drinking a bit less before you drive

I must admit it took me a wee minute to realise what he was saying)))

The problem is that many people take the things he says seriously but he
gives me a good laugh)

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:28:06 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:55:31 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/6/2015 10:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the
>>>>>> UK.
>>>>>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then
>>>>>> cross
>>>>>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>>>>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>>>>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>>>>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wish these countries would fix this glaring problem with their
>>>>motorways. While they're at it, they can't fix that goofy steering
>>>>problem - they make driving the car practically impossible by placing it
>>>>too far on the right. You can forget about reaching those pedals too.
>>>>When we were in the UK, I had to have someone sitting in the passenger
>>>>seat working the pedals. The driver can only use one hand to drive the
>>>>car. That's crazy! The next time I go, they'll probably have the
>>>>steering wheel in the back seat.
>>>
>>> Next time, try drinking a bit less before you drive
>>
>>I must admit it took me a wee minute to realise what he was saying)))
>>
>>The problem is that many people take the things he says seriously but he
>>gives me a good laugh)
>
> Yes, I know what he's saying

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On 7/08/2015 11:37 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>
>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>> twist:-)
>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>
>
> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>
> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
> designed for.

Designed for? Are you one of these "intelligent design" whackos??

> What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
> down shell of a hellish existence?

Not everyone is decrepit when old. Lifestyle and genetics both play a
role in what you will be like when you're old.

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On 7/08/2015 11:49 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>>
>>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>>> twist:-)
>>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>>
>>
>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>
>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>
> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
> but it has its own logic.
>
The logic of fear! Not something I would want to live by...

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On 7/08/2015 11:59 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2015 3:22 PM, graham wrote:
>>>> On 06/08/2015 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health...nd_errors.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> People have always been afraid of science and technology. Everything
>>>>> is changing so fast in these times that there are hysterical mobs of
>>>>> people that pretty much reject all science and technology. Hopefully,
>>>>> the policies of this country will not be determined by this rejection
>>>>> of science by the masses - but it probably will. That's the breaks.
>>>>>
>>>> Here's something on pesticides that'll get Mr Kuthe's knickers in a
>>>> twist:-)
>>>> http://www.csicop.org/si/show/pestic...w_bad_are_they
>>>>
>>>
>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and poisons.
>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the foods we
>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to eat - that
>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>
>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our bodies were
>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a broken
>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>
>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM foods
>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of mind,
>> but it has its own logic.
>>
>
> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
> technological world. Fear sucks!

Technology is not to be feared. Developments in technology are
inevitable. What you need to fear are the nefarious uses to which some
of this new technology will be put.

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On 7/08/2015 8:28 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:55:31 -1000, dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/6/2015 10:45 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/2015 3:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:37:12 -1000, dsi1
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No doubt it's a good idea to stay away from pesticides and
>>>>>>>>> poisons.
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, it's likely we're getting some exposure from the
>>>>>>>>> foods we
>>>>>>>>> eat. OTOH, people should get a load of not having anything to
>>>>>>>>> eat - that
>>>>>>>>> will kill you a lot faster than pesticides in our foods.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What gets my goat is that people are living longer than our
>>>>>>>>> bodies were
>>>>>>>>> designed for. What do these people want - to live forever in a
>>>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>>>> down shell of a hellish existence?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're so afraid of old age that you want to eat poisons and GM
>>>>>>>> foods
>>>>>>>> to make sure you never reach old age. It's an unusual state of
>>>>>>>> mind,
>>>>>>>> but it has its own logic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>>>
>>>>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the
>>>>> UK.
>>>>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then
>>>>> cross
>>>>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>>>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>>>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>>>
>>>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>>>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>>>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wish these countries would fix this glaring problem with their
>>> motorways. While they're at it, they can't fix that goofy steering
>>> problem - they make driving the car practically impossible by placing it
>>> too far on the right. You can forget about reaching those pedals too.
>>> When we were in the UK, I had to have someone sitting in the passenger
>>> seat working the pedals. The driver can only use one hand to drive the
>>> car. That's crazy! The next time I go, they'll probably have the
>>> steering wheel in the back seat.
>>
>> Next time, try drinking a bit less before you drive
>
> I must admit it took me a wee minute to realise what he was saying)))

Ditto! Confusion reigned - for a moment. LOL
>
> The problem is that many people take the things he says seriously but he
> gives me a good laugh)
>


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On 7/08/2015 7:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:03:47 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:31:34 -1000, dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/6/2015 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:59:38 -1000, dsi1
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I don't want to limit myself because I'm afraid of this
>>>>>> technological world. Fear sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree. Since I look left and right before I cross the road, I don't
>>>>> have to fear being hit by a car
>>>>>
>>>> I almost got killed a couple of times when crossing the road in the UK.
>>>> Am American will always look left, then right, then left and then cross
>>>> the road if it's clear. That doesn't work in the UK - you have to look
>>>> right first, then left, and then right again, before crossing. Just a
>>>> helpful tip for yanks in the UK.
>>>
>>> I know what you mean. Ever since I moved to Australia, I act as if
>>> traffic can come from either side when I'm crossing a road. And I
>>> still often open my car on the wrong side when I want to drive off.
>>
>> In AU they drive on the left?
>
> Yes, unfortunately for me
>
Ah, I'm used to it. Only time I ever had a problem was in Indonesia.
Yes, they drive on the same side of the road as here but many of the
work vehicles were US or Canadian sourced so the controls were on the
wrong side. Many a time I would jump into the front seat only to glance
across, see the steering wheel on the other side, then realise I'd done
it again!

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On 8/8/2015 12:29 AM, Xeno wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
>

On 8/8/2015 12:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

dsi1 > wrote in
:

> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-10, Mark
> Thorson wrote:
>> Safe and good for the environment.
>>
>> http://www.slate.com/articles/health.../science/2015/
>> 07/are_gmos
> _safe_yes_the_case_against_them_is_full_of_fraud_l ies_and_error
> s.html
>
> People have always been afraid of science and technology.
> Everything is changing so fast in these times that there are
> hysterical mobs of people that pretty much reject all science
> and technology. Hopefully, the policies of this country will
> not be determined by this rejection of science by the masses -
> but it probably will. That's the breaks.

Science is fine as long as it not used to increase profits to
greedy corporations whose directors' sense of ethics was removed
surgically at birth.

There is nothing wrong with people wanting to know what is in the
food they buy so that they can make an informed decision. They
don't have to take anybody's word for it, but this is what they
want you to do because they say the "science" is "proprietary".

In 1857, in India, the sepoy (infantry troops) were given new
guns and cartridges. The cartridges were closed with a thick
paper coated with beef tallow. The British did not inform the
sepoy that there was beef tallow on the paper and they had to
bite through it before loading the shell.

Attempts by the British to correct matters only inflamed the
discontent. It was too late to offer apologies. Obviously,
keeping secrets like that is bad for your health.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-- Jorge Agustín Nicolás Ruiz de Santayana y Borrás

Consider yourself informed.

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you have chosen the side of the oppressor " --
Desmond Tutu

On 8/8/2015 12:52 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/8/2015 12:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.