I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.

So... I put two chicken breast halves on to cook. I wasn't going to eat
that and I opted not to even make what I was going to make for myself
because my stomach wasn't right. Anyway... I had set the timer for when I
thought the chicken might be done. Was talking on the phone when the timer
went off. Chicken wasn't done. Stayed in the kitchen, watching it, then
thought I had turned the burner off.

Came back in here and continued talking on the phone. Kept thinking I could
smell chicken cooking and eventually smelled something burning. Angela then
went in to get herself some dinner because she didn't want the chicken. I
heard her holler, "Should the burner be on?" Oops!

By this point, I think the chicken had been cooking for another hour or so.
I think I must have had it on a very low heat though because although it got
blackened on the one side and dried out enough that only a desperate person
might eat it. I think the pan will be okay.

That will teach me to try to cook when I don't feel well! So when my
husband called and asked what was for dinner, we both told him that there
was no dinner because I had burned it and to stop and pick something up
somewhere. Apparently he didn't believe us because he came home looking for
the dinner. No clue what he ate. But apparently he found something.

wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
> >the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
> >temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
> headache!

I suspect that her imagination is often working overtime.

On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
> headache!
>

There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
Graham

--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 5:43:28 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
> So... I put two chicken breast halves on to cook. I wasn't going to eat
> that and I opted not to even make what I was going to make for myself
> because my stomach wasn't right. Anyway... I had set the timer for when I
> thought the chicken might be done. Was talking on the phone when the timer
> went off. Chicken wasn't done. Stayed in the kitchen, watching it, then
> thought I had turned the burner off.
>
> Came back in here and continued talking on the phone. Kept thinking I could
> smell chicken cooking and eventually smelled something burning. Angela then
> went in to get herself some dinner because she didn't want the chicken. I
> heard her holler, "Should the burner be on?" Oops!
>
> By this point, I think the chicken had been cooking for another hour or so.
> I think I must have had it on a very low heat though because although it got
> blackened on the one side and dried out enough that only a desperate person
> might eat it. I think the pan will be okay.
>
> That will teach me to try to cook when I don't feel well! So when my
> husband called and asked what was for dinner, we both told him that there
> was no dinner because I had burned it and to stop and pick something up
> somewhere. Apparently he didn't believe us because he came home looking for
> the dinner. No clue what he ate. But apparently he found something.

Another episode of "As The Stomach Turns". Stay tuned for tomorrow's
exciting highlites.
=====

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> By this point, I think the chicken had been cooking for another hour or so.
> I think I must have had it on a very low heat though because although it got
> blackened on the one side and dried out enough that only a desperate person
> might eat it. I think the pan will be okay.

You will probably toss it but I would salvage it. Cut up into small
pieces and heat it up in a nice chicken gravy. This will work. Or add
the overcooked pieces to some soup.

G.

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:29:56 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>> Thankfully,
>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>
>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>
>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>> headache!
>>>
>>
>>There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>Graham
>
> I see as a result of MarketPlace and their research it is going to be
> far harder for them to claim anything here unless they have clinical
> trials proving it - about time too - it's all expensive and as you say
> mostly water.
>
> The only herb that might have an effect on a migraine is ergot and a
> few of the medications for migraine stem from that, but you can't buy
> a real migraine medication without a prescription. Unfortunately I
> know more than I care to about them, had them since childhood, did not
> lose them at menopause and this year they suddenly morphed again and
> now it carries a form of vertigo with it. If you have a migraine, you
> will KNOW it is a migraine, that's for sure.

Amen to that!!


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.

Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)

For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(
>
> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
> headache!
>



--

Xeno

On 8/7/2015 11:55 PM, Roy wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/8/2015 12:28 AM, wrote:
John Caylor of www.insider-magazine.com reports that a well-placed
source within the Florida Department of Business and Professional
Regulation has revealed Governor Jeb Bush ordered the destruction and
shredding of public records and documents in violation of Florida law.
The department maintains oversight and approval of state gaming
licensees, slot machines, dog and horse tracks, and jai-alai. In
addition, the state government source revealed that Jeb Bush has
replaced key members of the Governor's Staff in Tallahassee with
personnel from Texas who are overseeing the destruction of state
documents. An FBI source has confirmed the destruction of public records
by Jeb Bush may be in response to the ongoing criminal proceedings
against GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the Federal investigation of the
2001 gangland murder in Miami of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Gus Boulis.

On 8/8/2015 12:17 AM, Xeno wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/8/2015 12:10 AM, Ophelia wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 11:58 PM, Gary wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 11:55 PM, Roy wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

"Xeno" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>> Thankfully,
>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>
> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(


Mine changed at the menopause. I still get the vision thing and feel
totally wacked but I only get a small headache in one eye but I feel heavy
pressure over it.

it isn't pleasant but not a patch on what it used to be.



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

On 8/7/2015 11:44 PM, wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 9:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

On 8/7/2015 11:29 PM, graham wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/7/2015 7:29 AM, graham wrote:
> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>> Thankfully,
>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>
>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>> headache!
>>
>
> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
> Graham
>

That is a total LIE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathic_dilutions

In homeopathy, homeopathic dilution (known by practitioners as
"dynamisation" or "potentisation") is a process in which a substance is
diluted with alcohol or distilled water and then vigorously shaken in a
process called "succussion". Insoluble solids, such as quartz and oyster
shell, are diluted by grinding them with lactose (trituration). The
founder of homeopathy, Samuel Hahnemann (1755€“1843) believed that the
process of succussion activated the "vital energy" of the diluted
substance,[1] and that successive dilutions increased the "potency" of
the preparation, although other strands of homeopathy disagree

The following table is a synopsis comparing the X and C dilution scales
and equating them by equivalent dilution. However, the homeopathic
understanding of its principles is not explained by dilution but by
"potentisation", hence one can not assume that the different potencies
can be equated based on equivalence of dilution factors.

X Scale C Scale Ratio Note
1X ۥ 1:10 described as low potency
2X 1C 1:100 called higher potency than 1X by homeopaths
6X 3C 10ˆ’6
8X 4C 10ˆ’8 allowable concentration of arsenic in U.S. drinking water[11]
12X 6C 10ˆ’12
24X 12C 10ˆ’24 Has a 60% probability of containing one molecule of
original material if one mole of the original substance was used.
26X 13C 10ˆ’26 If pure water was used as the diluent, no molecules of the
original solution remain in the water.
60X 30C 10ˆ’60 Dilution advocated by Hahnemann for most purposes: on
average, this would require giving two billion doses per second to six
billion people for 4 billion years to deliver a single molecule of the
original material to any patient.
400X 200C 10ˆ’400 Dilution of popular homeopathic flu preparation
Oscillococcinum
Note: the "X scale" is also called "D scale". 1X = 1D, 2X = 2D, etc.

On 07/08/2015 9:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Xeno" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>> Thankfully,
>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>
>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>
>> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>>
>> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(
>
>
> Mine changed at the menopause. I still get the vision thing and feel
> totally wacked but I only get a small headache in one eye but I feel
> heavy pressure over it.
>
> it isn't pleasant but not a patch on what it used to be.
>
>
>
An acquaintance of mine told me that when he felt one coming on, he put
both arms in a basin of hot water and the obvious dilation of the blood
vessels stopped it in its tracks.
My grandmother suffered into her 70s and I remember as a child when she
was laid low in bed for 3 days at a time. The gene missed me but my
sister suffers. Modern medications help.
Graham
--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On 8/7/2015 7:55 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 5:43:28 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> So... I put two chicken breast halves on to cook. I wasn't going to eat
>> that and I opted not to even make what I was going to make for myself
>> because my stomach wasn't right. Anyway... I had set the timer for when I
>> thought the chicken might be done. Was talking on the phone when the timer
>> went off. Chicken wasn't done. Stayed in the kitchen, watching it, then
>> thought I had turned the burner off.
>>
>> Came back in here and continued talking on the phone. Kept thinking I could
>> smell chicken cooking and eventually smelled something burning. Angela then
>> went in to get herself some dinner because she didn't want the chicken. I
>> heard her holler, "Should the burner be on?" Oops!
>>
>> By this point, I think the chicken had been cooking for another hour or so.
>> I think I must have had it on a very low heat though because although it got
>> blackened on the one side and dried out enough that only a desperate person
>> might eat it. I think the pan will be okay.
>>
>> That will teach me to try to cook when I don't feel well! So when my
>> husband called and asked what was for dinner, we both told him that there
>> was no dinner because I had burned it and to stop and pick something up
>> somewhere. Apparently he didn't believe us because he came home looking for
>> the dinner. No clue what he ate. But apparently he found something.
>
> Another episode of "As The Stomach Turns". Stay tuned for tomorrow's
> exciting highlites.
> =====
>

Can you even TRY to be less than bullying?

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 07/08/2015 9:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Xeno" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>
>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>
>>> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>>>
>>> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(
>>
>>
>> Mine changed at the menopause. I still get the vision thing and feel
>> totally wacked but I only get a small headache in one eye but I feel
>> heavy pressure over it.
>>
>> it isn't pleasant but not a patch on what it used to be.
>>
>>
>>
> An acquaintance of mine told me that when he felt one coming on, he put
> both arms in a basin of hot water and the obvious dilation of the blood
> vessels stopped it in its tracks.

I wish I had known that!

> My grandmother suffered into her 70s and I remember as a child when she
> was laid low in bed for 3 days at a time. The gene missed me but my sister
> suffers. Modern medications help.

I should jolly well hope so in this day and age!!!


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

graham wrote:

>On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>
>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>> headache!
>>
>
>There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>Graham

What's a homopathic remedy... I think what Julie needs is a big dose
of heteropathic remedy.

On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> graham wrote:
>
>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>
>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>
>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>> headache!
>>>
>>
>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>> Graham
>
> What's a homopathic remedy...
Water, "shaken not stirred!"
Graham
--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:20:00 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 07/08/2015 9:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Xeno" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>
>>>> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(
>>>
>>>
>>> Mine changed at the menopause. I still get the vision thing and feel
>>> totally wacked but I only get a small headache in one eye but I feel
>>> heavy pressure over it.
>>>
>>> it isn't pleasant but not a patch on what it used to be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>An acquaintance of mine told me that when he felt one coming on, he put
>>both arms in a basin of hot water and the obvious dilation of the blood
>>vessels stopped it in its tracks.
>>My grandmother suffered into her 70s and I remember as a child when she
>>was laid low in bed for 3 days at a time. The gene missed me but my
>>sister suffers. Modern medications help.
>>Graham
>
> It's definitely heriditary, I passed it along. It's a question of
> finding which medication suits you best. My daughter found one that
> worked for her but didn't do a thing for me.
>
> Your sister may have heard this - a recent study showed people who get
> migraines, mostly the people who have auras, often past 50 or so, will
> get what they call 'silent strokes' so the best you can do is not do
> any of the other indicators like smoking, to avoid disaster with them.
> I don't have the link but for sure it is somewhere online, it was an
> English study.

You know what I get now ... Is this the forerunner of a 'silent stroke'??

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On 8/7/2015 9:29 AM, graham wrote:

> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
> Graham
>


People say that about placebos too, but if you get prescription strength
they work well.

On 8/7/2015 9:22 AM, Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>
>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>> headache!
>
> I suspect that her imagination is often working overtime.
>
Just another ailment to add to the list.

Jill

On 8/7/2015 3:15 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>> headache!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>> Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>> Graham
>
> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
> OK, all grapes
> Fermented grapes.
> I'm having wine for dinner.
>
LOL!

Jill

On 07/08/2015 1:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 3:15 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at
>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>>> headache!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>>> Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>>> Graham
>>
>> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
>> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
>> OK, all grapes
>> Fermented grapes.
>> I'm having wine for dinner.
>>
> LOL!
>
> Jill
>
I always think that wine is a complex carbohydrate and therefore good
for you as part of the "five a day"!
Graham
--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>> headache!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>>Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>>Graham
>
> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
> OK, all grapes
> Fermented grapes.
> I'm having wine for dinner.

LOL sounds pretty good to me)


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> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:46:21 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:20:00 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 07/08/2015 9:11 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Xeno" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mine changed at the menopause. I still get the vision thing and feel
>>>>> totally wacked but I only get a small headache in one eye but I feel
>>>>> heavy pressure over it.
>>>>>
>>>>> it isn't pleasant but not a patch on what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>An acquaintance of mine told me that when he felt one coming on, he put
>>>>both arms in a basin of hot water and the obvious dilation of the blood
>>>>vessels stopped it in its tracks.
>>>>My grandmother suffered into her 70s and I remember as a child when she
>>>>was laid low in bed for 3 days at a time. The gene missed me but my
>>>>sister suffers. Modern medications help.
>>>>Graham
>>>
>>> It's definitely heriditary, I passed it along. It's a question of
>>> finding which medication suits you best. My daughter found one that
>>> worked for her but didn't do a thing for me.
>>>
>>> Your sister may have heard this - a recent study showed people who get
>>> migraines, mostly the people who have auras, often past 50 or so, will
>>> get what they call 'silent strokes' so the best you can do is not do
>>> any of the other indicators like smoking, to avoid disaster with them.
>>> I don't have the link but for sure it is somewhere online, it was an
>>> English study.
>>
>>You know what I get now ... Is this the forerunner of a 'silent stroke'??
>
> Well quite - I often get a stabbing pain which feels like it is in the
> centre of my head and I wonder. Stupid thing is, the brain itself
> doesn't feel anything, they can operate on it with you live.

Hmmm ok.
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"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 07/08/2015 1:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/7/2015 3:15 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>>>> headache!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>>>> Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
>>> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
>>> OK, all grapes
>>> Fermented grapes.
>>> I'm having wine for dinner.
>>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I always think that wine is a complex carbohydrate and therefore good for
> you as part of the "five a day"!

What else? ;-)


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On 8/7/2015 3:32 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:24:23 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>>>> headache!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>>>> Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
>>> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
>>> OK, all grapes
>>> Fermented grapes.
>>> I'm having wine for dinner.
>>
>> LOL sounds pretty good to me)
>
> Has to be healthy all that vitamin C
>
Don't forget the antioxidants!

Jill

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 09:53:21 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>>the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
>Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
>If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>headache!

I hear that!! I get migraines very rarely anymore, but OMG!! There's a
reason my mother used to call them "sick headaches".

John Kuthe...

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:24:23 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:32:26 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 07/08/2015 11:34 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>>>>> headache!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>>>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>
>>>>> What's a homopathic remedy...
>>>>Water, "shaken not stirred!"
>>>>Graham
>>>
>>> I'm having fruit salad for dinner
>>> Well, it's mostly grapes actually
>>> OK, all grapes
>>> Fermented grapes.
>>> I'm having wine for dinner.
>>
>>LOL sounds pretty good to me)
>
> Has to be healthy all that vitamin C

Of course!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 07:29:56 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>>On 07/08/2015 6:53 AM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>>>> Thankfully,
>>>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>>>
>>>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>>>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>>>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>>>>
>>>> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
>>>> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
>>>> headache!
>>>>
>>>
>>>There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>>>believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>>>Graham
>>
>> I see as a result of MarketPlace and their research it is going to be
>> far harder for them to claim anything here unless they have clinical
>> trials proving it - about time too - it's all expensive and as you say
>> mostly water.
>>
>> The only herb that might have an effect on a migraine is ergot and a
>> few of the medications for migraine stem from that, but you can't buy
>> a real migraine medication without a prescription. Unfortunately I
>> know more than I care to about them, had them since childhood, did not
>> lose them at menopause and this year they suddenly morphed again and
>> now it carries a form of vertigo with it. If you have a migraine, you
>> will KNOW it is a migraine, that's for sure.
>
> Amen to that!!

Yep. I have the vertigo too and I can't open the windows as the house is
being power washed. I feel like someone is trying to pop my head off at the
neck and am sick to my stomach. Not liking this at all.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> By this point, I think the chicken had been cooking for another hour or
>> so.
>> I think I must have had it on a very low heat though because although it
>> got
>> blackened on the one side and dried out enough that only a desperate
>> person
>> might eat it. I think the pan will be okay.
>
> You will probably toss it but I would salvage it. Cut up into small
> pieces and heat it up in a nice chicken gravy. This will work. Or add
> the overcooked pieces to some soup.

It's gone. I wouldn't eat it in soup and I have no gravy.

"Xeno" > wrote in message
...
> On 7/08/2015 10:53 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine.
>>> Thankfully,
>>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>>
>> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
>> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
>> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
> Damn, I think I must have missed menopause then! ;-)
>
> For sure my migraines are still with me! :-(

I don't get nearly as many as I did prior to. Oddly, they didn't start
until about 2-3 years prior to.

On 8/7/2015 3:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/7/2015 9:29 AM, graham wrote:
>
>> There's *nothing* except water in homeopathic remedies. People who
>> believe in that bunkum are nutjobs!
>
> People say that about placebos too, but if you get prescription strength
> they work well.

On 8/7/2015 7:53 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:43:22 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> I wasn't feeling well due to what I now suspect is a migraine. Thankfully,
>> the homeopathic Zyclear that I bought seemed to knock it out at least
>> temporarily. But I didn't try it until later.
>
> Just be glad that is your imagination working overtime, you don't
> start migraines at your age, in fact some people who have them are
> lucky enough to get rid of them at menopause.
>
> If it was a migraine I can assure you nothing 'homeopathic' is going
> to do a thing for you! Most likely you had a common or garden
> headache!
>
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I had frequent migraines for many years, starting when I was in college.
I never got an aura, but they always followed the same
pattern--extreme pain centered over my right eye, lasted 3 days and
eventually I was so sick that I was nauseated and was barely functional
(although I still managed to go to class and never missed class even
when I was teaching). "Regular" medication did not help at all--I might
as well swallow a handful of candy as to take aspirin, Excedrin, etc.
Finally, I was properly diagnosed with migraine and was given
prescription medication specifically for migraines. By that time, I
could recognize when a migraine was starting, and the prescription
medication would work if I took it at the first sign instead of waiting
until a full-blown migraine had set in.

I read during that time that some people would have more severe problems
as they aged, and others would have fewer (and less severe).
Fortunately for me, I fell into the latter category, although not as
early as the onset of menopause. My migraines grew less and less
severe/frequent, and I have not had one for a number of years. It is
now rare for me to even have the garden-variety headache.

MaryL