On 8/25/2015 9:01 AM, wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 2:58:07 PM UTC-7, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:40:38 -0500, John Kuthe >

>
> Yay!
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 8:59 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>yon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
> stone! ;-)
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-2
>
> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
Ayup...

On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>
> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
> stone! ;-)
>
Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
Graham

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>
>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>> stone! ;-)
>>
>Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>Graham

A lot more than just the waste. But water long term can do amazing
work!

John Kuthe...

On 24/08/2015 5:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-24 7:03 PM, wrote:
>
>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>
>> We wore out a set of burrs on our Braun grinder. No replacement parts
>> available, so we researched and bought the Capresso.
>>
> I had a burr coffee grinder that stopped working properly. All it needed
> was to be cleaned out.

I have a Phillips burr grinder that I haven't used in many years. It was
made in Japan, so that gives you an idea of its age:-) It is supposed to
have 10 grinding settings but they all grind to the same coarseness. I
cleaned it but there is a spring mechanism that holds the burr down and
I can't get to it. So it sits on the shelf.
I have a grinding attachment that is over 50 years old for my Kenwood
mixer. It works fine but it's way too much trouble to use.
Graham

--
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy wine,
which is kind of the same thing".

On 8/24/2015 6:33 PM, graham wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>
>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>> stone! ;-)
>>
> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
> Graham
>

Same with wind.

On 8/24/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Water without any sediment,

Is like a stalker without a woman to harass.

On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>
>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>> stone! ;-)
>>>
>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>> Graham
>
> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>
Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
Graham

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:15:44 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>
>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>> stone! ;-)
>>>
>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>> Graham
>
>Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>
>-sw

Yep, it's physics. Water weights 8 pounds a gallon, 69 pounds per cu
ft! And kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2!! Do the math!

John Kuthe...

On 8/25/2015 10:33 AM, graham wrote:
>
> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
> Graham
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote:
is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>
> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
> Graham
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 10:41 AM, graham wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 5:06 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-08-2's way too much trouble to use.
> Graham
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 10:37 AM, John Kuthe wrote:

> John Kuthe...
>
Ayup...

On 8/25/2015 12:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
er weights 8 pounds a gallon, 69 pounds per cu
> ft! And kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2!! Do the math!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
Ayup...

Sqwertz wrote:
> No Ph.D required.
>
> -sw
>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 24/08/2015 9:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>>stone!;-)

STONE OR ROCK!!!!! NOT DIRT!!!!!

On 24/08/2015 8:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:15:44 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>>
>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>
>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>> Graham
>>
>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Yep, it's physics. Water weights 8 pounds a gallon, 69 pounds per cu
> ft! And kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2!! Do the math!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
John, he was talking about ROCK, not dirt.
Graham

Sqwertz wrote:
> Rock is just hard dirt


**** off woman-stalker.

>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

Sqwertz wrote:
> You're misquoting me.


Get lost, now!

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:10:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:57:40 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 24/08/2015 9:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>>>>stone!;-)
>>
>> STONE OR ROCK!!!!! NOT DIRT!!!!!
>
>You're misquoting me. I never said that.
>
>But like I said earlier, rock and stone are just hard dirt. The
>effects are the same, just not as immediate.
>
>-sw

One Hindu legend I heard said some young men had some questiuons about
life and everythingff. So they asked this wise old man what was the
periodicy of the cycles of the universe, and the old man told them
that if he had a feather and every morning he'd come out and brush the
Himalyas with it the period of the cycles of the universe are the time
it would take to erode away the entire Himalyas!

John Kuthe...

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:58:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 24/08/2015 8:06 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:15:44 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> Yep, it's physics. Water weights 8 pounds a gallon, 69 pounds per cu
>> ft! And kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2!! Do the math!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>John, he was talking about ROCK, not dirt.
>Graham

So am I. I boat the Saint Francis river in Fredericktown, and my least
favorite rapid is the Dam Breach, because those blocks they built the
dam with are manmade crap and haven't been worn as smooth as the rest
of the river!

John Kuthe...

On 8/25/2015 1:57 PM, graham wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 9:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>>> stone!;-)
>
> STONE OR ROCK!!!!! NOT DIRT!!!!!
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
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On 8/25/2015 2:15 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:10:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>ng he'd come out and brush the
> Himalyas with it the period of the cycles of the universe are the time
> it would take to erode away the entire Himalyas!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/25/2015 2:17 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:58:54 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/25/2015 1:58 PM, 'no clue' graham wrote:
George HW Bush is a known evil pedophile, who ran a Congressional
Blackmail Child Sex Ring during the 1980s known as “Operation Brownstone
and Operation Brownstar”, and later to become known as “The Finders or
The Franklin Coverup”. U.S. Vice President George HW Bush would sneak
children over to Senator Barney Frank’s condo, known as a “Brownstone”
to their famous cocktail parties, where U.S. Congressman and U.S.
Senators — some willing and some unwilling participants — got a taste of
the “Voodoo Drug” in their drink.

To prove a case, you need one that was involved in an operation or a
witness or documents; in this case, U.S. Customs documents prove the
case without getting anyone still living killed. Inside the (scribd)
document below is an article that appeared in US News and World report
December 27 1993, entitled “Through a Glass Very Darkly”. This includes
cops, spies and a very old investigation — also copies of the U.S.
Customs Reports where the names are not blacked out.

On 8/25/2015 2:11 PM, Mal Pais wrote:
Begone, you obese biotch!

Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD! TROLL ENABLER!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


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On 8/25/2015 2:07 PM, Mal Pais wrote:
Begone, you obese biotch!

Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD! TROLL ENABLER!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


_,..._
/__ \
>< `. \
/_ \ |
\-_ /:|
,--'..'. :
,' `.
_,' \
_.._,--'' , |
, ,',, _| _,.'| | |
\\||/,'(,' '--'' | | |
_ ||| | /-' |
| | (- -)<`._ | / /
| | \_\O/_/`-.(<< |____/ /
| | / \ / -'| `--.'|
| | \___/ / /
| | H H / | |
|_|_..-H-H--.._ / ,| |
|-.._"_"__..-| | _-/ | |
| | | | \_ |
Barbara Llorente | | | | |
| The | |____| | |
|Troll Enabler | _..' | |____|
jrei | |_(____..._' _.' |
`-..______..-'"" (___..--'

On 8/25/2015 2:07 PM, Mal Pais wrote:
Begone, you obese biotch!

Barbara J. Llorente FRAUD! TROLL ENABLER!

Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available. Record

ID: 47846596.

Your ass has more mass than Jupiter!

No one cares about you.

Get OUT!


_,..._
/__ \
>< `. \
/_ \ |
\-_ /:|
,--'..'. :
,' `.
_,' \
_.._,--'' , |
, ,',, _| _,.'| | |
\\||/,'(,' '--'' | | |
_ ||| | /-' |
| | (- -)<`._ | / /
| | \_\O/_/`-.(<< |____/ /
| | / \ / -'| `--.'|
| | \___/ / /
| | H H / | |
|_|_..-H-H--.._ / ,| |
|-.._"_"__..-| | _-/ | |
| | | | \_ |
Barbara Llorente | | | | |
| The | |____| | |
|Troll Enabler | _..' | |____|
jrei | |_(____..._' _.' |
`-..______..-'"" (___..--'

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 6:27:34 PM UTC-7, graham wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
> >
> >> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
> >>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
> >>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
> >>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
> >>>
> >>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
> >>> stone! ;-)
> >>>
> >> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
> >> Graham

How about cavitation erosion?

> >
> > Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
> > If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
> > force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
> >
> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
> Graham

So would it be fair to say your head is chock full of rocks, after
a half-century of studying them?

On 25/08/2015 5:24 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 6:27:34 PM UTC-7, graham wrote:
>> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>>> Graham
>
> How about cavitation erosion?

Not a bad one but I think what is being talked about is more in the
sense of "abrasion" whereas cavitation erosion is more akin to a gas
bubble "hammering" effect.

http://tinyurl.com/o4x3u3h

To be sure, in both instances, matter is removed.

Had a case recently where an input line filter was clogged in a Benz
power steering pump. We could tell it was cavitating because of the
noise it created and, had we not rectified the situation it would have
caused pitting which is a different effect from the abrasion markings
caused by foreign particle contamination. The end result would have been
the same, a prematurely worn out component.

>
>>>
>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>>
>> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
>> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
>> Graham
>
> So would it be fair to say your head is chock full of rocks, after
> a half-century of studying them?
>
That's a little harsh..

--

Xeno

On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>>
>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>
>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>> Graham
>>
>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>
> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
> Graham
>
Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a
graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s at
best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D student
and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my
previous students were 37 and 35 respectively.

Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire
career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed a
Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers!

--

Xeno

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 5:27:29 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 3:36 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:24:38 -0500, John Kuthe >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> After shooting craps at finding a good AMERICAN made burr grinder
> >> coffee grinder, I pulled my old one out of the recycling, cleaned the
> >> burr grinding mechanism, and it works fine!!
> >> Pressure off!! My
> >> addiction is safe for a while! :-)
> >>
> >> Now, about that manufacturing base WE ALL sent to China!! :-(
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> > The burr was most likely made in Poland, Italy, Turkey, or Sweden.
> >
> Regardless, a good cleaning is obviously all that was needed. Sorry he
> wasted a perfectly good panic attack and a couple of exclamation points!!
>
> Jill

And three separate threads where one would have done.

Cindy Hamilton

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I boat the Saint Francis river in Fredericktown, and my least
> favorite rapid is the Dam Breach, because those blocks they built the
> dam with are manmade crap and haven't been worn as smooth as the rest
> of the river!

They'll wear smooth too but not in your lifetime. You will always have
to deal with the sharp rocks.

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> One Hindu legend I heard said some young men had some questiuons about
> life and everythingff. So they asked this wise old man what was the
> periodicy of the cycles of the universe, and the old man told them
> that if he had a feather and every morning he'd come out and brush the
> Himalyas with it the period of the cycles of the universe are the time
> it would take to erode away the entire Himalyas!

LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the
Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year.

On 25/08/2015 2:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>>
>> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
>> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
>> Graham
>>
> Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a
> graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s at
> best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D student
> and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my
> previous students were 37 and 35 respectively.
>
> Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire
> career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed a
> Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers!
>
I'm 71.
Graham

On 26/08/2015 12:00 AM, graham wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 2:00 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel
>>>>>>> burrs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
>>>>>> stone! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone.
>>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion.
>>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The
>>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks.
>>>>
>>> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology
>>> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then.
>>> Graham
>>>
>> Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a
>> graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s at
>> best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D student
>> and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my
>> previous students were 37 and 35 respectively.
>>
>> Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire
>> career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed a
>> Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers!
>>
> I'm 71.
> Graham

You were a busy boy in your early 20s. A Thai chap I know commenced his
Ph.D at age 30. He already had 2 degrees and 2 Masters by then. A
permanent student!

I started my tertiary education at age 28 after having a prior career in
a different field. Two years effective full time at Teachers College
followed by a further 10 years at Uni.

I was about to undertake another career change at age 48 when I became
rather ill and instead saw the end of my working life. Let me assure
you, retirement is much better when you can plan it in advance rather
than having it thrust upon you.


--

Xeno

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 03:38:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 5:27:29 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 8/24/2015 3:36 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:24:38 -0500, John Kuthe >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> After shooting craps at finding a good AMERICAN made burr grinder
>> >> coffee grinder, I pulled my old one out of the recycling, cleaned the
>> >> burr grinding mechanism, and it works fine!!
>> >> Pressure off!! My
>> >> addiction is safe for a while! :-)
>> >>
>> >> Now, about that manufacturing base WE ALL sent to China!! :-(
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> > The burr was most likely made in Poland, Italy, Turkey, or Sweden.
>> >
>> Regardless, a good cleaning is obviously all that was needed. Sorry he
>> wasted a perfectly good panic attack and a couple of exclamation points!!
>>
>> Jill
>
>And three separate threads where one would have done.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Three separate specific topics.

Hope the KitchenAid A9 coffee mill I'm buying works for a good long
time. I saw some replacement motor brushes for sale for the A9, I
should probably get some of those too! I'm very familiar with electric
motors with brushes, and I know this is a point of failure on them.
Whick is one of the main advantages to Tesla's induction motor!
Brushless!

John Kuthe...

On 2015-08-24, Xeno > wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set
>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit
>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs.
>
> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes
> stone! ;-)

Coffee grinder burrs have limited lifespans:

https://www.espressoparts.com/ChangingGrinderBurrs

Many sub $150USD grinders have hardened nylon flat burrs instead of
hardened steel burrs. These should be avoided. One's best bet is to
buy a used grinder. Ebay has dozens.

I bought a Mazzer Jolly for $100 ....with brand new burrs (flat). I
then discovered the previous owner had cross threaded the burr
adjustment group's threads, so it wasn't quite the deal I thought.
Still, that's a $1000+ grinder for one tenth the cost, plus whatever
it costs me to repair the threads. 8|

nb

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:03:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> One Hindu legend I heard said some young men had some questiuons about
>> life and everythingff. So they asked this wise old man what was the
>> periodicy of the cycles of the universe, and the old man told them
>> that if he had a feather and every morning he'd come out and brush the
>> Himalyas with it the period of the cycles of the universe are the time
>> it would take to erode away the entire Himalyas!
>
>LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the
>Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year.

Extending the periodicy of the Universe considerably!! ;-)

Besides, it's a legend. Not the objective scientific truth. That's
what I always loved about Hinduism, it always leaves room for better
explanations of things. Kinda like science! Christianity and so many
other religions claim to KNOW the truth, when none really do! Hinduism
is kind of self-improving!! At least that's my impression of it.

John Kuthe...