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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 03:38:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 5:27:29 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote: > >> On 8/24/2015 3:36 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: > >> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:24:38 -0500, John Kuthe > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> After shooting craps at finding a good AMERICAN made burr grinder > >> >> coffee grinder, I pulled my old one out of the recycling, cleaned the > >> >> burr grinding mechanism, and it works fine!! > >> >> Pressure off!! My > >> >> addiction is safe for a while! :-) > >> >> > >> >> Now, about that manufacturing base WE ALL sent to China!! :-( > >> >> > >> >> John Kuthe... > >> > > >> > The burr was most likely made in Poland, Italy, Turkey, or Sweden. > >> > > >> Regardless, a good cleaning is obviously all that was needed. Sorry he > >> wasted a perfectly good panic attack and a couple of exclamation points!! ![]() > >> > >> Jill > > > >And three separate threads where one would have done. > > > >Cindy Hamilton > > Three separate specific topics. If you say so. From where I sit, it's all "burr coffee mill stuff". Incidentally, I've got a Cuisinart burr coffee mill made in China. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:00:33 +1000, Xeno >
wrote: >On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote: >> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote: >>> >>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set >>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit >>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs. >>>>> >>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes >>>>> stone! ;-) >>>>> >>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. >>>> Graham >>> >>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion. >>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The >>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks. >>> >> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology >> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then. >> Graham >> >Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a >graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s at >best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D student >and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my >previous students were 37 and 35 respectively. > >Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire >career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed a >Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers! Tell me about that!! I'm on my third major carreer. First I was a baker, then a computer engineer, and now I'm an RN!! John Kuthe... |
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On 26/08/2015 1:15 AM, graham wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 8:39 AM, Xeno wrote: >> On 26/08/2015 12:00 AM, graham wrote: >>> On 25/08/2015 2:00 AM, Xeno wrote: >>>> On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote: >>>>> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>>>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set >>>>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit >>>>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel >>>>>>>>> burrs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water >>>>>>>> erodes >>>>>>>> stone! ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. >>>>>>> Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion. >>>>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The >>>>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks. >>>>>> >>>>> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my >>>>> geology >>>>> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then. >>>>> Graham >>>>> >>>> Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a >>>> graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s at >>>> best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D >>>> student >>>> and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my >>>> previous students were 37 and 35 respectively. >>>> >>>> Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire >>>> career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed a >>>> Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers! >>>> >>> I'm 71. >>> Graham >> > >> > > You were a busy boy in your early 20s. > It was normal in the UK then. Actually, I had some setbacks in my > research so took a year longer than usual, finishing in '70 rather than > '69. > > > I was about to undertake another career change at age 48 when I became > > rather ill and instead saw the end of my working life. Let me assure > > you, retirement is much better when you can plan it in advance rather > > than having it thrust upon you. > > > Sorry to learn of that. > I'm still working although the drop in the oil price has severely > curtailed projects. I'm finding it difficult to adjust to retirement, > as I'm used to working on interesting projects. However, when work does Ditto. I was doing curriculum development work and moving into online education. My new career was to have been involved in the setting up of an automotive focused technical college in Thailand. It was in that country where I initially became ill, at my in-laws farm in fact. > appear, I feel rather annoyed at having to do it. I'm wondering whether > to stop cold turkey as professional, software, insurance and accounting > fees will eat up all my projected income next year. > Graham It is hard to stop cold turkey. They say you need to start planning for retirement some 10 years prior to actually pulling the pin! I was just about to enter that phase. Needless to say, my planning simply never happened. Basically, you need to develop a new hobby or three to accommodate an extra 40 hours, or more, per week of leisure time. Typically, 6 months or a year will see you caught up with all those jobs around the house and after that you will find yourself annoying the living bejesus out of your wife. There's another point. If you and your wife have both been working, you will need to get used to "living together" all over again. A work colleague retired the same day I did. His wife retired a couple of years later. He told me it took the better part of 6 months to get used to being under each other's feet. Nowadays they spend half of each year as grey nomads trekking around the country with 4WD and caravan. -- Xeno |
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![]() "Xeno" > wrote in message ... > On 26/08/2015 1:15 AM, graham wrote: >> On 25/08/2015 8:39 AM, Xeno wrote: >>> On 26/08/2015 12:00 AM, graham wrote: >>>> On 25/08/2015 2:00 AM, Xeno wrote: >>>>> On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote: >>>>>> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set >>>>>>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit >>>>>>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last >>>>>>>>>>> forever. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel >>>>>>>>>> burrs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water >>>>>>>>> erodes >>>>>>>>> stone! ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. >>>>>>>> Graham >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in >>>>>>> erosion. >>>>>>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my >>>>>> geology >>>>>> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then. >>>>>> Graham >>>>>> >>>>> Given the average age at completion of a Ph.D, the average age of a >>>>> graduate from 45 years ago would probably place you in your late 70s >>>>> at >>>>> best but more likely in your 80s. I am currently tutoring a Ph.D >>>>> student >>>>> and she will be 40 on completion, a fairly typical age. Two of my >>>>> previous students were 37 and 35 respectively. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, congrats on managing to stay in your field for your entire >>>>> career. My preferred career path vanished before I had even completed >>>>> a >>>>> Masters. Such is the transitory nature of modern careers! >>>>> >>>> I'm 71. >>>> Graham >>> >> >>> >> > You were a busy boy in your early 20s. >> It was normal in the UK then. Actually, I had some setbacks in my >> research so took a year longer than usual, finishing in '70 rather than >> '69. >> >> > I was about to undertake another career change at age 48 when I became >> > rather ill and instead saw the end of my working life. Let me assure >> > you, retirement is much better when you can plan it in advance rather >> > than having it thrust upon you. >> > >> Sorry to learn of that. >> I'm still working although the drop in the oil price has severely >> curtailed projects. I'm finding it difficult to adjust to retirement, >> as I'm used to working on interesting projects. However, when work does > > Ditto. I was doing curriculum development work and moving into online > education. My new career was to have been involved in the setting up of an > automotive focused technical college in Thailand. It was in that country > where I initially became ill, at my in-laws farm in fact. > >> appear, I feel rather annoyed at having to do it. I'm wondering whether >> to stop cold turkey as professional, software, insurance and accounting >> fees will eat up all my projected income next year. >> Graham > > It is hard to stop cold turkey. They say you need to start planning for > retirement some 10 years prior to actually pulling the pin! I was just > about to enter that phase. Needless to say, my planning simply never > happened. Basically, you need to develop a new hobby or three to > accommodate an extra 40 hours, or more, per week of leisure time. > Typically, 6 months or a year will see you caught up with all those jobs > around the house and after that you will find yourself annoying the living > bejesus out of your wife. > > There's another point. If you and your wife have both been working, you > will need to get used to "living together" all over again. A work > colleague retired the same day I did. His wife retired a couple of years > later. He told me it took the better part of 6 months to get used to being > under each other's feet. "Nowadays they spend half of each year as > grey nomads trekking around the country with 4WD and caravan." Which is exactly what we do ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 7:44:27 AM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-24, Xeno > wrote: > > On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: > >> > >>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set > >>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit > >>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever. > >>> > >> > >> > >> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs. > > > > Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes > > stone! ;-) > > Coffee grinder burrs have limited lifespans: > > https://www.espressoparts.com/ChangingGrinderBurrs > > Many sub $150USD grinders have hardened nylon flat burrs instead of > hardened steel burrs. These should be avoided. One's best bet is to > buy a used grinder. Ebay has dozens. > This is why I bought the Capresso, for roughly half that. The conical steel burrs brought a tear to my eye. And it is so QUIET compared to our previous ones. |
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On 8/25/2015 11:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The particles in wate Go away, troll. ______ ____/ \\_____ | _ ___ _ || | | \ | | \ || | | | | | | || | |_/ | |_/ || | | \ | | || | | \ | | || | | \. _|_. | . || | || | Sqwerty & Marty || | || | * ** * ** || \\)).../..(/...\||(...\\....((// ROTFLMFAO! |
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On 8/25/2015 9:03 AM, Gary wrote:
> > LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the > Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year. > This is true. I was going to climb Everest but I'm waiting until they get higher so it will be more of a challenge. |
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On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> OK, so I looked it up after I spouted off like Cliff Claven. Go away, troll. ______ ____/ \\_____ | _ ___ _ || | | \ | | \ || | | | | | | || | |_/ | |_/ || | | \ | | || | | \ | | || | | \. _|_. | . || | || | Sqwerty & Marty || | || | * ** * ** || \\)).../..(/...\||(...\\....((// ROTFLMFAO! |
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On 8/25/2015 8:38 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 5:27:29 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote: > > And three separate threads where one would have done. > > Cindy Hamilton > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 3:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 9:03 AM, Gary wrote: >I'm waiting until they > get higher so it will be more of a challenge. Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:00 AM, graham wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 2:00 AM, Xeno wrote: > Graham Ayup... |
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On 2015-08-25 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 9:03 AM, Gary wrote: > >> >> LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the >> Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year. >> > > This is true. I was going to climb Everest but I'm waiting until they > get higher so it will be more of a challenge. Maybe we should start a body recovery business up there. There are more than 200 of them up there. |
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On 8/25/2015 5:24 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 6:27:34 PM UTC-7, graham wrote: >> On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote: >>> >>>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set >>>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit >>>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs. >>>>> >>>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes >>>>> stone! ;-) >>>>> >>>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. >>>> Graham > > How about cavitation erosion? > >>> >>> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion. >>> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The >>> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks. >>> >> Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology >> Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then. >> Graham > > So would it be fair to say your head is chock full of rocks, after > a half-century of studying them? > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:44 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On d I know this is a point of failure on them. > Whick is one of the main advantages to Tesla's induction motor! > Brushless! > > John Kuthe... > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:52 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
ird major carreer. First I was a > baker, then a computer engineer, and now I'm an RN!! > > John Kuthe... > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 10:44:07 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote: >> On > Incidentally, I've got a Cuisinart burr coffee mill made in China. > > > Cindy Hamilton > Ayup... |
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On 8/25/2015 5:51 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 5:24 PM, wrote: >> So would it be fair to say your head is chock full of rocks, after >> a half-century of studying them? >> > That's fair.. > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 1:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 26/08/2015 1:15 ys they spend half of each year as > grey nomads trekking around the country with 4WD and caravan. > > > Ayup... |
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On 8/25/2015 6:00 PM, Xeno wrote:
> On 25/08/2015 11:27 AM, graham wrote: >> On 24/08/2015 7:1 nature of modern careers! > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:39 AM, Xeno wrote:
> On 26/08/2015 12:00 AM, graham wrote: >> On 25/08/tter when you can plan it in advance rather > than having it thrust upon you. > > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:48 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:03:57 -0400, Gary > wrote: > >> John Kutheism, it always leaves room for better > explanations of things. Kinda like science! Christianity and so many > other religions claim to KNOW the truth, when none really do! Hinduism > is kind of self-improving!! At least that's my impression of it. > > John Kuthe... > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 12:44 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2015-08-24, Xeno > wrote: >> On 25/08/20 it wasn't quite the deal I thought. > Still, that's a $1000+ grinder for one tenth the cost, plus whatever > it costs me to repair the threads. 8| > > nb > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 1:49 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > round the country with 4WD and caravan." > > Which is exactly what we do ![]() > > > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 1:49 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> d caravan." > > Which is exactly what we do ![]() > > > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 4:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-25 1:47 > > Maybe we should start a body recovery business up there. There are more > than 200 of them up there. Ayup... |
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On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 8:37:30 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-08-25 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > > On 8/25/2015 9:03 AM, Gary wrote: > > > >> > >> LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the > >> Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year. > >> > > > > This is true. I was going to climb Everest but I'm waiting until they > > get higher so it will be more of a challenge. > > > Maybe we should start a body recovery business up there. There are more > than 200 of them up there. That's a lot of bodies! With such a business, there would be 300 bodies on the mountain in a short while. This means that body recovery business in the Himalayas simply cannot fail! ![]() |
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dsi1 wrote:
>> Maybe we should start a body recovery business up there. There are more >> than 200 of them up there. > > That's a lot of bodies! With such a business, there would be 300 bodies on the mountain in a short while. > This means that body recovery business in the Himalayas simply cannot fail! ![]() Dang, can't the monks just levitate them down? All they do is sit around all day chanting with their legs crossed... |
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On 8/26/2015 6:54 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 8:37:30 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2015-08-25 1:47 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >>> On 8/25/2015 9:03 AM, Gary wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> LOL! What that "wise old man" obviously didn't know is that the >>>> Himalyas are not done growning. They get higher each year. >>>> >>> >>> This is true. I was going to climb Everest but I'm waiting until they >>> get higher so it will be more of a challenge. >> >> >> Maybe we should start a body recovery business up there. There are more >> than 200 of them up there. > > That's a lot of bodies! With such a business, there would be 300 bodies on the mountain in a short while. This means that body recovery business in the Himalayas simply cannot fail! ![]() > Ayup... |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs. >> >> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes >> stone! ;-) >> >Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. Sediment helps, but water can do it perfectly well on it's own, being a solvent and all... Some waterjets use nothing more than water (without abrasives) for cutting, so how does that work if water cannot erode stone on it's own? We have a lot of granite around here that gets eroded by very pure water, again no abrasives required. |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:27:38 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 24/08/2015 7:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham wrote: >> >>> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>>> On 25/08/2015 8:08 AM, Dave Smith wrote: >>>>> On 2015-08-24 5:30 PM, wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If I were John, I would send away for a replacement set >>>>>> of the Capresso burrs (Swiss), and figure out how to retrofit >>>>>> his B&D burr grinder with them. Because burrs don't last forever. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oh sure. Those coffee beans are so much tougher than the steel burrs. >>>> >>>> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes >>>> stone! ;-) >>>> >>> Actually, it's the sediment carried by water that erodes stone. >>> Graham >> >> Water without any sediment, water is still very effective in erosion. >> If you pour a bucket of water into a pile of dirt, what happens? The >> force of fast moving water is very effective at wearing away rocks. >> >Oh, Sorry! I must be out of date then. After all, I received my geology >Ph.D 45 years ago and have been working in the profession since then. >Graham Yes, so you keep telling us on a regular basis... Regardless, you are wrong. |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:57:40 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 24/08/2015 9:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >> Swing by the Grand Canyon next time you're in the area. Water erodes >>>>>>stone!;-) > >STONE OR ROCK!!!!! NOT DIRT!!!!! LOL. Oh dear. |
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On 8/26/2015 8:20 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:27:38 -0600, graham > wrote: > >>> On Mon, 24 Aug 201us on a regular basis... > Regardless, you are wrong. > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 8:18 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:33:39 -0600, graham > wrote: > >> On 24/08/2015 4:59 PM, Xeno wrote: >>> On 25/08/20quired. > Ayup... |
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On 8/26/2015 8:20 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug > LOL. Oh dear. > Ayup... |
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